All the symptoms I've experienced!!!!!

Well Ladies,
Where do I begin to tell you of all the symptoms I've experienced during the menopause??!! (By the way, what's the difference between perimenopause and menopause? Is peri the period leading up to menopause?) It's been an eye opener, I must say, reading everyone's comments on this site, that so many of the symptoms are down to the menopause and not just me.

I'm 54 and about 18 months-2 years ago I noticed a very definite mood change. I felt very "low" - now realise this was actually depression. Then anxiety/panic followed. Also, insomnia (not like me at all, never had any problems sleeping), also needing to pee loads during the night. Hot flushes (though, thankfully, no sweats/night sweats!). My periods had stopped by now. Then just began to feel "strange" - hard to explain really, also feelings that I was not in the real world, was sort of outside it, looking in at the rest of the world. Then (this is great isn't it?) began to feel very physically ill, also mentally ill, like I was going mad, strange thoughts, extreme tiredness, internal shaking! Doc ran tests (I was convinced by this time that I must have luekaemia or something I felt so bad!). Tests came back, thyroid okay, also nothing else wrong. WHAT??!! That can't be right! But, yes, sorry, you are just in the "change"!

I am now trying hrt (decided to run the risks, preferring if so be it to live a shorter, happier life than possibly a longer miserable one!) and anti-depressants. I think I am beginning to feel a little better, at least I sleep well now due to the sedative effect of the anti-depressants at night, but each day can still be a struggle. Doc asked was there anything else he could do for me, I said "not unless you can turn me into a man!"

Not at all keen on being on my own at home, like to be out in company and occupied, but at the same time pretty scared to take on too much/new job. I do relief care work, but can get panicky at work too.

Well, I think that's just about listed everything that's gone wrong with me during this lovely(!) time of life. Anyone else had any (or all??) of these symptoms. Boy, I pity you if you have!!!!

Pudd

Yep, all of the above, but over the past ten or more years. It's finally started to even out and I am actually enjoying my altered state of mind, but it took a long time to get here. No hrt, no drugs, just self-indulgent work on the inside.
Mrs H

Thanks for your reply Mrs H (I am also Mrs H!). I guess maybe in time I will "get used" to these symptoms too. I do expect it to go on for some years, from what I've heard from others. Good for you to get through it without drugs, I also think "self pampering" at this time doesn't go amiss, we should spoil ourselves as we ARE suffering. I now take every opportunity to go out day and evening when invited by friends, the housework, etc can wait. Life is too short and heck, with all this horrible menopause business going on, why shouldn't I?
Hope you're still feeling OK. Don't quite know what you mean by your altered state of mind - do you mean it's now altered for the better with time, or just that you've got used to the "altered" state?
Pudd

"I also think "self pampering" at this time doesn't go amiss, we should spoil ourselves as we ARE suffering. I now take every opportunity to go out day and evening when invited by friends, the housework, etc can wait. Life is too short and heck, with all this horrible menopause business going on, why shouldn't I?
Hope you're still feeling OK. Don't quite know what you mean by your altered state of mind - do you mean it's now altered for the better with time, or just that you've got used to the "altered" state?"

Oh don't get me wrong. I don't pamper myself. That's not what I meant by self-indulgence. I have spent years trying to understand all this, and some of it has been pure hell, imo. I suppose I have adapted somewhat to what I consider my "altered state", and that has now become normal for me. The nice thing is that I don't just tolerate it. I like the journey of self-discovery it has provided an opportunity for. It's probably too complicated to explain, and it takes lots of digging to find any insight whatsoever. The simplest way I can explain it is that I feel like I have spent years wandering in the desert, and finally found an oasis. For the first time in my life, I love being me, imperfections and all.
Mrs H

Thanks for that reply Mrs H! On taking my daughter to the station this morning to go back to university (oh, I do miss my kids, but great news, she got the job round here for when she finishes uni, for which interview she came home!), I said to her that I think this is something I am just going to have to learn to live with and accept for the time being. Interesting what you say, because at the moment I feel like I live in my own little world away from everyone else. Feel very weird. Maybe this is my journey of self discovery. Don't know if I'll even remember what it's like to feel "normal" again? Maybe one day I'll find my little "oasis"!! Pudd

hi pudd i to have reached a stage in my life im 46 where i feel confused with the confused feelings im having i to hate to be alone for long periods of time although i do have days where i just dont want to do a thing im scared to death of hrt so havent gone down that road yet my doctor wanted me to have anti depressants another doc wanted me on hrt its a minefield isnt it , i get horrible palpatations ,disrupted thaughts increased sense of smell dizzy spells hot flashes nausea joint pains ,the list is endless i thank god when i have a good day these days its a horrible unsettling scary time the panic attacks are the worst and waking up every hour of the night wet through and wheezing i can cope with most of this but the palps are the worst i take calcium and magnesium when i get them and that seems to be helping but it does disrupt the bowels but id rather that than palps does anyone else have all this or am i alone

hello to all,
I have been looking for an up to date forum that discusses the stranger symptoms of menopause and I'm so glad I've found you. I will try to keep this brief. I am 49 and have had all of the symptoms described here (and more!) for a few years now. I can go back as far as 7 years ago when I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. However the symptoms disappeared a few months later so I think it was a misdiagnosis. At the time I was also tested for hypothyroid and after seeing a private specialist and spending quite a bit of money I was told I was "fit as a flea". I have times when I feel fine for maybe 2 or 3 months then all sorts of different things start happening. I started having bad hot flashes about 10 months ago and my GP suggested HRT. I took it until about six weeks ago but had a really bad migraine (I thought I was having a stroke- really scary). I came off immediately but found out my blood pressure and cholesterol were sky high even though my diet and lifestyle hadn't changed. I feel as though I am going mad sometimes and the stress of the past few weeks has caused me to lose weight(this is the only good thing to come out of this as I had put on at least 20lbs in the past two years). I have lots of other symptoms but I don't want to bore everyone with an endless list. However, if there is anyone out there who knows exactly how I feel I would love to know. I'm sorry this is so long but I need to know I'm not alone.

Hi hun49 your not alone at all i have been struggling with many emotional and physical symptoms since sept 08 i had a full hysterectomy at 30 and im 46 now i have 1 ovary and its really hard to try to work out a pattern because i dont have a period (obviously), its at times like this i wish i did cos then i might be able to work out a pattern of when the problems which are significant are gonna come but i cannot so ive been to the doctor and trust me here in england the perimenopause doesnt exist (YEH RIGHT), ok lets try some anti depressants no ta, ok lets try HRT, no ta, so what am i left with a bunch of problems and myself going slowly insane.
I use this site to reassure myself i am not dying from some awful as yet undiscovered illness disease etc ,i to have gained tons of midriff weight i cannot shift no matter how much i diet excersize ,i take magnesium n calcium vitamim b complex, vit c, and evening primrose oil n vit e every day it helps well it stops the palpatations anyway for now but i worry im having too much magnesium thing is ive had ecg blood pressure normal fit as a flea also and i do have days when i feel fine but they are few an far i have crashing fatigue i cannot be bothered with anything or anybody ,i would love to feel like me again but i dont hold my breath anymore so keep battling on like me and its good to talk i really feel it helps good luck ok

Hi everybody i really wish this forum was more up to date i really rely on this forum for chat and advice or just knowing someone else out there feels as lost as me with this whole peri menopause thing in my lfe i live in england and its no where near understood here like it seems to be in the states you guys are far more advanced than us i come on here everyday hoping for a new post to look at and someone to chat to if anybody out there wants to chat my e mail is shellywilliams159@msn.com

To beauty 2009,
Thanks for replying to my post. I wasn't sure if this forum was up to date either and like you, since I found it I feel a lot better. I live in England too and every doctor I've seen over the years looks at me like I've got an eye in the middle of my forehead! It has been really frustrating but I would be happy to chat anytime and we can both get this off our chests! Take care .

Hi hun 49 thanks for your reply i was begining to think no came on here anymore and your in england how cool is that!I KNOW HOW U FEEL honestly i feel like im going crazy sometimes like i said ive started trying to help myself now cos the doctors are prehistoric and sooo out of touch with this whole menopause thing,i wasnr prepared for it at all it came out of no where my doctor agrees im in perimenopause and her answer to my pysical problems is hrt which is not an option for me at all that to me is like putting on a bandaid cos once u come off it you still gotta go through it so whats the point ,i am deterimed to get through this without chemicals ,ive been so bad at times with panic attacks ,hot fushes,anxiety about my health my state of mind , i have days when i feel sick all day,hot hot hot all day and night if i have a drink of wine its even worse im dizzy for 2 days its just not worth it anymore i feel better now im filling in a chart which i got off the internet it lists all possible symptoms it has a daily chart which you can fill in everyday on a scale of 1-5 so now i get a picture of when to expect certain symptoms to occur it really helps me i got it from www.earlymenopause.com also im finding the vitamin b complex is helping been on that almost a month now and to be honest the magnesium and calcium daily helps a lot take care speak soon again ok

Hi hun49 how ru ? im on a few good days just recently apart from fatigue i found something interesting on this forum the other day someone said chia seeds by a company called mila helped to eliminate the hot flushes so i went to the health food shop in the town and they havent heard of them must be an american thing i intend to keep trying though dont no if u have heard of this remedy i did a bit of research on the chia seeds and they are organic rich in omega 3 and apparently they do eliminate the flushes just cant find where to get them from might be worth a try tho hope your okay anyway take care shelly

hello beauty 2009,
I'm good at the moment. Like you I have had some really good days in the past 2 weeks. I have recently changed my diet drastically and I have started eating more tofu and soya products, I have cut down on wheat and more or less living off porridge oats, fish, vegetables and fruit. I also started taking 2 teaspoons of flax seed oil everyday. I have been taking it for about 6 weeks now and guess what, some of my symptoms have gone. I don't know if you know about flax seed but if not look it up on the web. If it is a placebo effect on me then so be it, but I have far fewer symptoms of tingling in my hands and the crawling skin feeling. I think it has something do with increasing the amount of omega 3 in my diet. I saw a post on another forum recently. The female said she had decided to help herself, and more or less accept the menopause as something she would have to put up with for a while. She did go into it further but for her she was going to try mind over matter. After reading everything she said I decided I would try that approach and I have to admit I have felt better within myself. I still have bad days but, thankfully, my feelings of doom have subsided. Hope your good days continue and I hope some of the things I've done can help you too. Susan

Hello,

I am actually a concerned daugher. My mom (50) seems to be going through the beginning of menopause which is apparently called peri? In any case, she is always tired these days and has trouble getting up because of lack of energy. She previously has issues with her bowel but that seems to have subsided for now. Hun49: you recently took on a new diet. How's the tofu working out and what else do you suggest? She doesn't want to eat anything but knows she has to. Most foods are bland and I have noticed that in some of the posts as well. Let me know! I, too, am glad to hear this thread of comments has started up again.

Thanks.

hi gwreader,
I'm sorry your mum is feeling as bad as she does, but it's good to know someone is looking out for her. I still get the tiredness but not as bad as a few years ago when it took all of my time to get out of bed and just live my life. There was no easy answer to recovery I'm afraid. I just had to force myself to do things. Your mum sounds like she may be having those awful feelings of dread as well. I would really recommend the flax seed oil. Like I said in my previous post, some of the symptoms have gone since I started taking it. (I still get the flushes though.) I haven't eaten meat for about 15 years and I have always eaten soya as an alternative to it. However, it can be quite bland unless used in a stir fry or marinated. I have always eaten fish, but I am now eating it at least 5 times a week.(not kidding...i may grown gills soon !) If your mum likes wine then I would say to cut it down drastically. I have gone from drinking wine everyday, to about half a (small) glass 2 or 3 times a week.
I snack on fruit and nuts, and cut back on dairy which is a big deal for me cos i love cheese.. ...(goes with the wine obviously!) I take 2 teaspoons of flax seed oil everyday (it does come in capsules too), a selenium supplement which also contains magnesium, zinc and B12 and I drink a glass of apple juice with a spoonful of spirulina in everyday. Look up both flax and spirulina on the web and find out how good they are. Like lots of others on this forum we really do have to take matters into our own hands and just try things to see what works for you. I hope some of these things can help your mum and I would suggest she comes here too cos I can assure her, just reading about others in the same boat really does make you feel a whole lot better. I thought i was going mad before coming on here. Hope I've been of some help.

Thanks for the reply hun49. In an odd way... it's good to know she's tired but will one day get over it. It really takes up a lot of her energy just to get up and has very little appetite for anything. I'll look into your food suggestions and hopefully she will like it. What other symptoms occurred after the extreme tiredness? Even talking can be quite a challenge and she keeps her voice quite low which sounds like something you went through years ago. I will let her know about these sites when she gets better. Right now, all she wants to do is sleep or sit around because of the exhaustion. Thanks for you input! I glad to hear you are feeling better. Hopefully my mom will feel better soon too!

Hi gwreader,
I just wondered if your mum has had her thyroid checked? Has her GP ruled out ME (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome)? I had really bad shoulder and neck pain and dizziness. A couple of times I was so bad I felt as though my neck wouldn't support my head. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia but my symptoms disappeared a few months down the line so I think they were wrong about that too! At the same time a couple of different doctors told me I was depressed..oh yeah!. It sounds never ending I know, but she really needs to make demands on her doctor for all the tests she possibly can.
Both of you take care.

HI hun49 nice to hear from you again how refreshing to actually get response good on you for trying a new diet regime unfortunatly i cannot do anything that much with mine because i am allergic to seafood although i have started to include more fresh vegatables in mine and definatly need to cut down on the wine rose and red is definatly the worse for me but i do enjoy a few glasses of white wine some days but if i drink too much i end up with bad palpatations for 2 days solid so its looking like im gonna have to cut down drastically with the wine,i have just started a job at a local pub im a chef so thats getting me out of the house a bit and making me feel a bit more positive and appreciated but i must say after a 6 hour shift i was shattered lol anyway im on a fatigued week at mo hope your feeling ok at mo and am glad your flaxseed oil is helping i read on here that chia seed is good for stopping the flushes iv tried to get it here but cant seem to find any i might go to manchester and try the herbal shop there can you get the flaxseed oil in tablet form whats you using that for exactly anyway take care shelly

Hi gwreader how lovely of you to try to help your mum it sounds to me like she is in perimenopause which is what comes before the menopause except the symptoms are more obvious in peri firstly crashing fatigue is very common in peri and it comes out of nowhere one minute your ok next your feeling like your body has been took over by an alien try your mum with some panax ginseng it relly helps with those days when i cannot get my butt out of bed or off the settee just glued to the tv in between naps i also have vitamin b complex and magnesium n calcium tablets which have helped me loads hope she feels a bit better soon get her to come on here and she will be able to feel she is not alone ok good luck

Hi beauty2009,
just wanted to let you know that flax seed oil is available in capsule form. I take it because it helps reduce blood pressure and cholesterol which I had problems with because of the HRT. I have had both checked in the past week and thankfully both are back to normal. My doctor won't admit it was the hrt which caused the problem.He said it was obviously just a "blip".....oh yeah!! Anyway I've had a really stressful couple of days and guess what...I've had tingling in my hands and muscle pain in my leg today. I badly need a holiday. I've got a week off work in 3 weeks time and I can't bloody wait! Apart from this I'm ok lol. Thanks for the catch up and take care.

Hi hun49
I dont have any problems with blood pressure am not on hrt so i dont think ill need the flaxseed oil i to have had a few stressful days since sunday 2 days ago i started with a bad pain in my right leg for last 2 days started off like a stabbing pain then it went to a dull ache all day yesterday i was convinced i had a blood clot in my leg i was anxious all day which really wears me out it was really bothering me today it seems to have eased off quite a bit i get a lot of tingling in my feet ,you sound like you could do with a break can you not get a cheap holiday away in the sun for a week? i am going to turkey next month and am hoping that i will enjoy the week better than i did in may we went to gran canaria and i was a wreck all week palpatations panic attacks fatigue i feel ive got myself under control a lot more lately i know muscle and joint pain is meant to be common with perimenopause and menopause dont quite know why so dont worry too much maybe get a massage or a good muscle rub try some cod liver oil ,anyway take care chick

Hey hun49
hows u today hope ur leg is not aching as much as it was i was wondering whereabouts in GB u r im near manchester r u on facebook? if so i will look u up i have an e mail if u fancy a chat or msn anyway hope ur feeling better than u did take care ok

Hi beauty 2009,
I'm in North Yorkshire, not too far from Manchester. I'm also on facebook I'll try and find you on there. My tingling hand and my leg muscle pain has disappeared today...how weird is that? You really never know what delights each day will bring do ya..lol. By the way, the flax seed helps stop palpitations as well. Anyway look out for me on facebook. Susan (Hanning)

Hi hun49 nice to see your reply yet again !glad to know that your tingling hand and legpain have gone today ,isnt that strange i had a pain in my right leg for 2 days then as if by magic it was gone on the 3rd day how weird is this menopause thing my partner thinks im crazy he seems to think that ill be playing with the fairies at the bottom of my garden next lol,
im not on facebook myself but my son christopher hogg is i just use his facebook sometimes but i am going to have alook for you ok im going to get some flaxseed capsules from rochdale next time i go cos i do get bad bad palpatations all the time if i dont take the magnesium n calcium for 1 day they come back with a vengence dont know why its so weird last month i was having chronic flushes up to now this month not a 1 how can this be im filling in a chart now every day and by this time last month i was flush flush flush on a score of 1 - 10 i rated them 9-10 same time of month now 0-0 crazy any way glad your feeling better chick take care shelly

Hi hun49 i spoke 2 soon they are back with a vengence last 2 nights ive been waking up constantly feeling so hot and drenched in sweat lol there doesnt seem to be a pattern to all this im so tired today i feel like i could go back to bed ive had a niggly pain in my chest all night as well and then by lunch time today its discapeared i upped my primrose oil cos that seems to help with the breast pain i get and bingo its gone how strange anyway hope your ok

hey beauty 2009,
These pesky symptoms just keep on keeping on dont they? I've been waking up hot as well but fortunately I don't seem to be quite as bad as you get. I also woke up yesterday feeling and looking about 20 years older. Even my husband thought I looked knackered lol. I don't know if you ever get little episodes of feeling a bit "spacey". They're difficult to describe except I feel a bit light headed and as if theres a buzz in my head...its weird. I had one of those today in Boots. I thought if I fall over at least they've got medication here,lol. It passed fairly quickly but its strange. I also had that adrenalin rush feeling last night and several seconds of palpitations just as I got into bed. Why do you think that happens when you're trying to relax? I'm not a religious person but I have to admit there are times I'm on the verge of praying for all this to stop lol. Heres to another day without any horrible symptoms. Take care girl.

Hi hun49 yes they do dont they some days i get up and feel great till about lunch time them bam total fatigue grips me and i could literally just go to bed and sleep i feel 90 sometimes i wake up sometimes with a buzz in my head ive had that for about 2 years now off and on it seems to be worse when ive had a few drinks ,yeh i do feel quite spacey sometimes and a bit dizzy ,i dont seem to get as much of the weird adrenalin rushes lately but i think that linked to the palpatations i was getting i think maybe its cos your resting you notice them more but i get mad bad thumping palps sometimes its like my heart is flip flopping unless i take magnesium n calcium i get that everyday its something to do with the electrodes in top n bottom of your heart interference from the estrogen deficency i think thats what causes it anyway its always worse when iv had alcohol lol im not religious but i have got some life insurance sorted this year cos i got so freaked out with all the horrible symptoms i was having ive had my heart checked out ecg nowt wrong with it apparently i was convinced i had heart disease apparently not but palps are common with peri anyway take care have a good day

hi beauty2009,
Just aquick reply to your last post....it made me laugh cos I'm about to do the same as you with the life insurance lol!!! (Does my husband still get the money if I shoot myself in the head when I can no longer bear these bloody symptoms!!)

Hi hun49 i dont think he does hun lol oh the irony of it all ha ha you gonna have to run the full course lol keep well ok how long you bin struggling so far ? almost a year for me

Oh beauty 2009, you don't want to know how long this has been going on do you? In 2002 I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia but I don't think it was that at all because the symptoms disappeared for months. I have read lots of posts on here and I had lots of symptoms that have been described as perimenopause. However as we both know doctors in this country don't believe it exists. Oddly, I actually felt really well during 2004/5/6 with only occasional pains and tiredness. But 2 years ago the hot flushes started and got steadily worse. Then the more bizarre things like the tingling hands and the skin crawling, the palpitations and the feeling of wanting to cry for no reason. You know when its written down like this its bloody depressing lol. I'm not sure how I've got through this. I actually read a post on one of the other forums from a female in her 60s still having symptoms! What a thought. well thats probably enough to depress you too lol. Keep well, S.

Hi hun49 2 years feels like a life time doesnt it when you got all this strange stuff going on ive read some pretty disturbing things on here as well but iv read some positive ones as well ive bin at it now since sept last year so almost a year not as long as you but mine must be fairly mild really because iv managed to control some of it now without drugs i think im finding it easier because i understand it better now and i accept that the symptoms are not life threatening they are just part of my everyday life at least the panic attacks are gone now and when weird stuff starts i understand whats causing it my whole life is circled around hormones now but hey it could be a lot worse at least i dont have a serious illness eh ! take care s x

Hi hun49 how u doin hope ur ok i started feeling really weepy about 5 days ago thats a strange feeling isnt it when it just comes on all of a sudden luckily i went to a friends wedding a couple of days ago so that gave me a reason for a bit of a cry lol yesterday i started with mild palps again had to double up on me magnesium i seem to get a bad chest when the palps start that bothers me a lot i do smoke so i need to cut that out but its very hard i get a pain in my right armpit into my breast do you get anything like that ive had it checked out and apparently its a monthly swelling thing just wondering if you get it i must say it does worry me some this month my symptoms seem to be coming at a different time to last month weird huh anyway take care

Evening beauty 2009,
I've been feeling really good for a quite a few days now but in the last HOUR I've begun to get the tingling feeling in my hand and my leg and a hot flush, feeling a bit sick too. How come these things just come on all of a sudden? My symptoms don't seem to have any pattern to them at all. It's this that confirms to me that its our hormones going crazy through our bodies. I don't get the breast pain though I did have a really strange pain in my chest a couple of weeks ago that lasted a couple of days. I've decided to start taking magnesium as well as the selenium cos I read they're a good combination. I'm off to the south of france in 9 days just for a week but I think it will do me good. I don't know how you cope with all these different things going on but I get the impression you're a bit like me...you're trying not to worry about all the little niggly things but it's always there in the back of your mind that it might be something awful. I'm glad I've got this forum to talk to someone who knows what I'm talking about. Thanks for listening...be well, S

Hi hun49 well ive had a rough few days what with the palps since tues hardly a decent nights sleep all week phew! i get days when i feel sick all day and cant eat i understand where sick n tired comes from lol! ive heard about selenium whats that do then ? if you gonna take magnesium get a calcium n mag n zinc you will notice an increase in energy levels take it in the morning tho or it tends to keep you awake at night a bit , we have to cope dont we with all the niggles, i am sure you will have a great time in south of france its lovely a refreshing break will probably do you a power of good im off to turkey on 19th sept cannot wait for that sunshine ahhh!anyway take care its great to know your there keep well as u can ok shelly.

Hi hun49 do you get palps ive had them since wed iv got to a point where im sooo tired sleeping a lot and dont wanna socialize at all very moody and teary i figure i must be near the end of this months symptoms how r u shelly

Hi again hun49 ive just bin reading poor figittts chat do you get those eye auras ? i only get them occasionally they are proper scarey she must be suffering a lot with them how horrible ,ru all set for your holiday chick ? I do hope the weather is lovely and i hope you have a nice relaxing time france is lovely i went to france when i was about 14 didnt really appreciate how pretty it is at that age i was more interested in the 14yr old jean claude boy i met hormones again ha ha ! they seem to be chasing us all our lives dont they puberty pregnancy menopause phew that a lot of hormone activity eh!lol speak soon take care be well ok shelly

Hey beauty2009, I've not been too bad the past few days, though felt a bit dizzy yesterday just all of a sudden. I went out for a walk in the countryside round about where I live and it seemed to make me feel a bit better. I'm really tired just now but have two days off work then back for three before I'm off on my hols. I can actually feel myself beginning to wind down if you know what I mean. I checked out the weather in the south of france and it's still pretty warm so cant wait to get there. We go to France quite often and know it quite well now. We're hoping to go and live there eventually.I read figitts post and I don't get the auras but I do get the black things floating in my eyes now and again. And you're right about the hormone activity yet the medical profession don't seem to know too much about it do they!! I reckon its because they cant control it properly with drugs so they just say put up with it! If this happened to men it would be a different story don't you think? Anyway, stay well and look after yourself, S.

Hi hun49 i know where you coming from with the tired bit ive had 5 days of being tired with hot flushes galore and weak palps i think im winding down now also i do know exactly what you mean, im hoping that ive got maybe 2-3 days left now before i start to feel better in myself im getting a bit of a picture with the chart im filling in now for past 2 months and if thats anything to go by i should be feeling more normal in a few days i seem to be getting all the worst symptoms for about 16 days but its hard to gauge it just yet , i think temperature has got something to do with the paps im getting im cold when i get up and no palps but towards lunch time the flushes start and then the palps seem to come i think they are linked .I read figitts post and she seems to be having an awful time poor thing i do get the black spots and ive has the eye auras thats she is on about but ive only had that 3 times and my god its very scarey im not surprised she is totally freaked out with those i dont know if thats menopause linked though she doesnt seem to be complaining about other symptoms i hope she gets that sorted soon, your right about the medical profession not having a clue HRT is the answer to it all it seems but im determined not to go down that road i dont see it as my cure all i think a lot of help comes from being able to talk its important to talk on bad days i know and hope this time will eventually pass for us all , im off to turkey on the 19th of this month and i am looking forward to that ,anyway take care s .

Hi hun49 wel i went to see my gp a few days ago yet another chest infection have had 4 thus far this year never suffered with this complaint before last year when all my symptoms began thankfully my thyroid is fine and palps have stopped for now and am feeling ok at mo just tired as hell as usual im going back to gp after my hols now that ive got a slight pattern of when my hormones are going crackers and am going to have another fsh test done she reckons that the only other cure for the palps if they dont stop and they get too much is a very mild anti depressant i cant have beta blockers because of asthma , ive stopped taking the magnesium at mo cos i worried i might be overmedicating with them so im gonna have 2 weeks off 2 weeks on see what results i get from that , so how are you are you all set for your holiday ?, im definatly ready for mine take care s

hi beauty2009, Sorry to hear about the chest infection. I think you're holiday will do you the world of good. I had a lovely break and I can honestly say the only problems I had were a couple of hot flushes, but the weather was really hot so I don't think that helped. I have been feeling really well and am hoping its going to last, however I'm back to work on Tuesday so we'll see. I really think I need to be on holiday permanently without any stress at all. oh well I can dream! take care.

HI hun 49 so glad you enjoyed your break i think it will do me good also im off saturday to turkey so hopefully ill have a good time and chance of a bit of sun and a nice relax will help clear up my chest im begining to think that the pain im having in my breast and armpit are related to the the chest problems i have been having this last year ive actually packed in smoking as wel now so hopefully that will help as well , we have had a load of excitment here where i live this weekend you will probably see it on the news soon a big fight broke out at a house near mine and 4 people ended up being macheted and stabbed we have had all our estate cordoned off with police csi its been crazy and its only a small estate in the countryside madness it seems non of us are safe anymore its usually so quiet up here usually ah well ,take care speak soon ok s

Hi Beauty2009
Just letting you know that the body doesnt store magnesium, so any excess with be passed out, I take 3 a day to help with my heart palps, Chelated mag is the best.
I also take natural vitamin sleeping remedies, these help me sleep through the night. Cheers

Here is a link that might be useful: Menopause Symptoms the weird ones

Hi gindy how long have you been having palps 4 mine started out of nowhere a year ago , i tried the chelated mag and found that they didnt seem to be as good as the not chelated ones i did get upset bowels initally but that doesnt affect me now i only take 1 a day at mo cos like i said earlier i was worried about overdosing myself i do tend to take up to 3 a day when they are severe do you find that alcohol almost always makes them come back the day after having a drink , whats the difference then with the chelated mag?

Hi ive had a full hysterectomy apart from 1 ovary 16 yrs ago so its very confusing to actually know if ive begun peri or not blood tests show no change at mo but started with palps flushes fatigue last year doc reckons its peri im keeping a chart of monthly symptoms but its so hard to know as its different every month im so confused with al this im 46 so at the right age i guess symptoms are not severe but the palps can be have been and ive had my heart ekg thyroid normal how much research ive done cant tel you ive gained loads of middle weight cannot shift it tender breasts also ,gone off sex do i sound peri

Hi,
I have not felt like alcohol for ages, I found I couldn't handle it at all. I got the muscle tremors really bad and
had really bad hangovers that were very unusual for the amount of wine I had. So I dont drink at the moment. I have had heart palps on and off for about 6 months, I seem to have a run of them then they stop awhile.But I keep taking mag night and morning and that helps me. Any Chelated minerals are more refined so it is easier for the body to absorb.

Hi Hun49 how ru ? I hope your well my holiday was great i had a great time no palps no panic attacks loads of sun feel loads better ive also been to the breast clinic and had a mammogram and ultra sound for the pain in my breast and armpit and i have been given the all clear no cancer or anything just a few small cysts so the pain ive been having must be down to peri the doctor at the clinic even said that im just gona get the results of my last blood test to see if my fsh levels are showing peri i bet trhey dont lol

Hi beauty2009,
Glad to hear you're well. You must be like me after a break cos I've been feeling really good since I came back from my holiday too. Good to know your visit to the breast clinic was an all clear. You must be relieved. Make the most of this feeling good cos something is bound to come back and annoy you lol. Take care, S.

Hi hun49 i am totally relieved that my breasts are all clear i felt like crying when i walked out of that clinic because there was at least 3 women there who were all diagnosed with BC poor things , as usual my FSH LH came back witrhin normal range again apparently it will not show anything up until i enter actual menopause or post so im not going tro bother again now unless the symptoms return with a vengence the sweats and all seem to have calmed down at present and i feel relatively ok apart from being quite tired a lot anyway hope you are well take care shelly

hi despite the breast clinic ruling out any cancer im still getting severe pain in my r breast somedays its worse than others dont know what to make of it a few days ago it felt hard like a football a little bit like when youve had a baby and they go hard and sore does anybody else get this or is it just me

hi beauty2009, haven't been here for a few weeks. Had suspected swine flu a couple of weeks ago but much better now. Strangely, i had no menopause symptoms while I had flu. whats that all about then? Actually I've been feeling quite good for a while now and its fab. I just read your last post and my mums friends daughter is having similar problems to you. Her breasts are really large and hard just like when you're breast feeding. Guess what her doc suggested...HRT!.I don't know what you can do about it unfortunately.

Hi hun49 im glad your feeling better now , I think having the flu must cancel out the hormone thing , well i went back to my doctor and had a chat about the problems i was having with the underarm swelling and the constant chest problems he sent me for an x ray on my spine and lungs he didnt mention anything about HRT i think myself its some sort of deep rooted infection in the lymph glands in my armpit at least thats what im hoping it is im on yet another course of strong anti biotics which im hoping will clear the problem up im just really worried it might be some sort of lymphatic cancer i think if i think the worst it will be a relief if its not that ive reallly got to give up the cigs now i just dont feel comfortable smoking anymore im must admit my peri symptoms have not abated much still getting my hot sweats and being really quite moody and tired but at least my boobs are not as hard now and the pain in them has subsided a bit i think it must be hormonal what a confusing lot , anyway glad your feeling better in yourself im glad you didnt have swine flu

Gabapentin, 300 mgs twice a day is a cure all! I have tried it all...antidepressants, pain pills, sleeping pills, you name. Except HRT, cant take it due to blood clot years ago. Last resort my dr put me on was Gabapentin, it helps hot flashes, night sweats, aches and pains, insomnia, stiffness in legs, pains in knees, everything. Good Luck Ladies, I been there, I am 51 and been in menopause one year.

Hi everyone,
I'm so glad to have found this site. I am amazed to see so many other women are suffering to this extent, I thought I was on my own, I too have being feeling I'm going mad. I am now 52, I had a hysterectomy when I was 27 and 2-3 years later I started an early menopause with the night sweats and all the usual suspects. I was taking HRT for about 10 years then I decided it was time to come off it. That was 12 years ago. I thought I was finished with the menopause but this year I started with most of the symptoms you are all talking about. Heat flashes, funny dizzy head, palpitations, aching limbs, memory loss, mood swings etc. I have went to my doctor a few times and had tests for the heart etc and all showing ok. I feel at this stage I'm just being passed off as being at that age in life. I live in Ireland and the menopause is not really a subject that is discussed. It is something all women get at some stage so just get on with it. But like puberty it would be good to have someone to explain it all to you so you know what to expect, if it is not bad enough to be suffering all of this but to feel as if I'm going mad on top of it!!!!!
Allie

hi everyone,
hope all is well with everybody. Beauty2009 how are you? Hows all the stuff with the breast pain. Hope you've got it all sorted out.I've been feeling really good but the minute I say this things will start again lol. I still get the occasional overwhelming tiredness but fortunately it usually happens when I sit down after I get home from work. The hot flashes seem to have calmed down a lot too which is lovely.I think the change of diet and taking all the different supplements has helped and cutting down on the alcohol!! Anyway it would be nice to know how you are.

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