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My husband isn't interested in me but masturbates & watches porn!
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Posted by lonelyheart (My Page) on Thu, Nov 5, 09 at 22:27
| I have been married almost a year and we never had a "honeymoon period". My husband is not very intimate, rarely initiates sex and doesn't do much of anything when we do. I'm like a real life porn star servicing him. I feel horrible when I find out he has been watching porn and masturbating. It feels like cheating when he chooses that over being with me. If we had intimacy on a regular basis I wouldn't mind. I've offered and tried to watch with him. He refuses, looks embarrased and leaves. I don't understand why he has no interest in touching me or reciprocating. (I think he has touched me "there" 2 times)He says he's just spoiled. What?! He says he's attracted to me and it's not that he doesn't want me. Oh.. he will take a blow job though. He has a hard time putting down his video controller to even hold me when I want time with him. He gets angry and defensive if I ask him about it or if he has. He lies about alot of things. I can't trust him anymore. Now he is getting what he says is "spam" mail from girls saying they like his pics and he's their type asking him to IM them. I feel so rejected and empty. I've told him and he says it's my problem I feel this way and states he's never good enough. We have recently started and are a few sessions in for counseling. He states he is who he is and is never going to change for anyone. He's fine asking women to show their breasts and make perverted comments to females... he's obviously attracted to women. Im confused. I feel like he's selfish and I'm married to a five year old. I'm scared and not sure of our relationship at this point. Any thoughts? Am I crazy? |
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Yes one, LEAVE. He has made it clear he isn't going to change. Porn itself isn't the problem and you have articulated that very well. The problem is yours according to him and since HE is the problem and isn't open to any sort of change or attending to your needs as a women, well there you go. Run, don't walk to the divorce attorney. I'm sorry its harsh but that's my gut feeling here. You are young, chalk this up to a poor choice and get on with your life. Still attend counseling so you can spot these red flags before you marry the same guy again. Spoiled? I'd say so. -Cat |
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| why did you marry him? he was this way before the wedding. |
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| I know playing games isnt the answer but i would turn the tables just to see how he likes feeling like this.Dont initiate sex atall ,pretend you have gone off him and are bored of his ways and show interest in other men,my bet is he will change his ways |
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| Tracystoke -- This is no time for games. Lonelyheart -- Do NOT waste your time diddling around in your head with thoughts like "I'm confused" or "I'm scared and not sure of our relationship at this point". You married a jerk. He isn't going to change. You must leave. You made a mistake. Get out of there. Do it now. Leave him today. Get a divorce at the earliest possible moment. |
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| It makes me laugh how everyones advice to people are Just leave the jerk,yeah right, like its that easy,im thinking lonleyhearts husband might be really shy and scared to initiate sex,asking women on the net to show your breasts is a lot easier than in real life,lonleyhearts how old are you both |
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| Lonely, your offer to participate in something that makes you feel so sad leads me to think that you have crossed over into co-dependent land. I hate that word, but regardless, it describes someone who perpetuates a painful behavior with their own behavior. You need a bottom line in your life. Go see a therapist so that you can determine what your bottom line is. At this point, your husband has no reason to change his behavior. You continue to make it easy for him. Find out your part of this dance so you can do something different. Don't compromise any more what you value, and don't join it simply because you can't beat it. (no pun intended.) |
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| I wish you'd stop breaking your neck trying to please this guy. More than anything, I wish you'd stop taking it all so personally. It's not about you. Many people have a problem that neither you nor they can identify or explain. There may be a clinical definition but if you ask me, life is just too short to bother. Has anyone with a mental disorder ever been reformed through counseling/therapy? No. That includes rapists, pedophiles, etc. Normally, it takes medications to control the behaviors, but that doesn't work either because people don't take their meds due to disliking the side effects. So, how stuck and humiliated do you plan to be for his sake and for how long? There will be many things in your marriage you both will have to contend with and overcome. Why waste so much time, energy, and emotional turmoil trying to compete with and understand another person's mental neurosis. It would be different if he became addicted to pornography. That can easily happen, but it's not the case here. His problem runs way deeper than that and is far beyond you to figure out. Like others have asked, I wonder why you married him. Weren't there signs and clues and feelings of inadequacy before you said "I do?" Most women ignore them and try to explain them away. Now, you just have to accept you shouldn't have done that and should never have bent over backwards degrading yourself trying to please him. Sex/love making is a shared experience. You should never allow any person or situation to reduce and degrade you......except maybe at gunpoint. What you do from here is up to you. Either get the heck away from him (which I doubt you will do because abused women never leave for some strange reason) or immediately stop vying for his attention (you cannot compete with his neuroses) and stop being "a real life porn star servicing him." What on earth makes him so much more important than your own dignity? Are you that desperate for a man? |
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| He's refusing you intimacy -- and I bet it's not just sexual intimacy. Can you two have a really deep and personal conversation? Does he truly cherish and support you emotionally? If everything else in your relationship is truly, deeply wonderful (NOT just tolerable), then it might be worth sticking with the counselling for a while to see if you can get through the sexual intimacy wall. But if not - and I strongly suspect 'not' - then the problem is that your husband is a deeply flawed person who is incapable of intimacy (hence the solo sex or 'you can do it to him' sex, or even the occasional 'he does it to you' sex). If he's not capable of real intimacy, that's just not something you want to base a marriage on. It's not you fault -- it's his. But don't sacrifice your happiness to his flaws. |
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| "Wow.. I just posted about this. I'm in my 30's and we have been married just under a year. Wow.. I so don't want this forever and I'm so sorry you are dealing with it. We started counseling at my insistance, only a few sessions in. It could help if you are both willing. My prayer is you find your way with peace in your heart." Copying this over from OP's post on other thread for my own emphasis. Sweetheart, if you think counseling and prayer are going to solve this problem, I grieve to inform you that you are deluded. You've married an orgasm-seeker. And he's got you all wrapped up. If you dig it, carry on. But I'll bet you don't. You've married a teenage masturbator who's amplified his habit via your cooperation. Ah, counseling.....you're "a few sessions in"....and you're an expert, now? You have no idea! You've got no business suggesting anything about it to others in your situation and with this infant-experience. Leave him. Get out of there. You're the one who's masturbating now. |
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| Sweeby, sometimes you are simply genius. "...the problem is that your husband is a deeply flawed person who is incapable of intimacy (hence the solo sex or 'you can do it to him' sex, or even the occasional 'he does it to you' sex). If he's not capable of real intimacy, that's just not something you want to base a marriage on." |
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| Hello everyone... thank you for your responses.. good and bad :). I have had another session with the Therapist individually as has he at this point. The reality is I knew my own answers before I posted and hoped and prayed I was wrong. We are in our early thirties, I have been married before and have children so this has been even more difficult. I was in a physically and emotionally abusive relationship before... so he was an angel for me. I was not interested in being married again but he was convincing and apparently I was still broken. He convinced me to have faith and believe again when I thought I never could. I have been to counseling before, three years worth. I obviously settled, not recognizing my value was not equal to his. We didn't see each other more than once a week while dating as he was always "busy". Big flag there... yes, there are always signs.. when the heart wants to believe we find excuses. But the damage is done and I am heart broken and feeling deceived. There is no easy way out and I dread having my children endure another divorce. People say leave when it's not always so simple... And to those who taunt and mock counseling and prayer.. I say this.. the Lord can soothe the hearts and souls of many damaged individuals. Counseling helps people not to always "fix" relationships but to help us see them for what they really are. That is what has happened for me. The self doubt is clearly wiped away when you have a Therapist reaffirm your feelings and acknowledge that yes, I'm getting little from my spouse out of my so called marriage. Having a trained individual tell you it's not healthy and validate your feelings is worth the expense, effort and the second guessing you may have otherwise. Once again... I appreciate your replys. :) |
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| "People say leave when it's not always so simple..." How complicated is it, then? If it's so complicated that living as you are is the superior choice, I guess that's the answer. How are things for the kids? Mention of kids is new. |
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| Asolo- Complications arise when you have investments together and yes, children involved no matter who they belong to. The children are not drawn into a personal bedroom matter and are a concern in regards to a divorce and the effects on them. You can't just get up one day and walk away. It takes planning and doing what's best for everyone. Thanks for your concern. |
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| Wasn't seeking a tutorial. Was interested in learning what "complications" may be in your particular case. Trying to understand what would be insurmountable after only being married for a year. People break up all the time. Don't know what could be so unique and complex in your particular situation that it would prevent you from getting out if you want out. Slavery ended a long time ago. There must be something in this for you or you would have left already. |
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| I can't believe what women put up with and men also. Life is to short to be unhappy 24/7. My sis found porn on her and her husband's computer and deleted it all and left him. He would have found his computer in pieces on the driveway if it had been my husband. |
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| You're making lame excuses and not fooling anyone but yourself. You might as well go on and admit you don't want to leave. You won't be the only one. Too few people ever do it. I have surely seen much, much worse on these boards and IRL than your situation, and they don't leave either. So, count yourself among the countless majority who are either the stupidest people in the world or are the smartest. Maybe it's just normal since not leaving is the norm, which makes me abnormal by society's standards. Just don't think you're fooling anyone with all the *reasons* you can concoct. |
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| maime are you for real? your sister divorced over...porn? |
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| "Counseling helps people not to always "fix" relationships but to help us see them for what they really are." Very wise Lonelyheart -- And yes, leaving IS hard. But you CAN do it, and you'll be much happier once you have. |
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| I hope there was more to your sister's story, maime. |
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| "Having a trained individual tell you it's not healthy and validate your feelings is worth the expense, effort" "I obviously settled, not recognizing my value was not equal to his." "...the damage is done and I am heart broken and feeling deceived." "Counseling helps people not to always "fix" relationships but to help us see them for what they really are. That is what has happened for me." "the Lord can soothe the hearts and souls of many damaged individuals." Seems to me you have all the information you need and have had it professionally validated. I don't know what more you would need in order to feel compelled to act. Your "Lord" may sooth your heart and soul but I can guarantee you he/she/it isn't going to solve your problem. You're the one that will have to do that -- or refrain, which is what you appear to be doing. |
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| Hello again... Just wanted to clarify for the scorned individuals who feel the need to kick people when they are down. My last therapy session confirmed and validated my feelings.. which was yesterday when I put up my new post. I have considered leaving before and had doubts... therapy has cleared that up. So yes, I am leaving and appreciate all the valued posts to help give me the courage to feel sane in a crazy relationship. |
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| There was much more to my sister's story. He was a devout catholic and they had 2 kids and she did not want anymore. Birth control was out of the question so he abstained. There she was 30 years old, no sex and without sex, no hugging, kissing or a warm touch of any kind. When she found out he was what he was doing for his sexual relief she was a bit put out. She had no money for a bus ticket because he doles it out as needed. She was so angry she tried to hitch hike back to our state and thanks to some kind truckers they passed the word and arranged for her a safe ride to our sister's home. She did go back to him and never found it on their PC again. He was a penny pinching miser who wouldn't let her run the a/c until he came home from work. Their home was not in her name and it was a first marriage for both of them. My mom visited when she was pregnant, really big pregnant and she had nothing to sit on except a sofa with bad springs that almost went to the floor. Mom went out and bought her a recliner and told Him "I'd better not find out you have been sitting in it". My husband picked up a porn flick at a garage sale and I watched it with him, one time. I thought it was disgusting and degrading for all women and I told him so. I did not tell him he couldn't watch it, but he never watched again with me in the house. |
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| well considering they didnt have sex i would be gratefull he was just using porn and not getting it elsewhere.cant be doing with catholics |
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| "grateful" isn't the first word that comes to my mind. Why did she return to this prick? After dumping the husband, the next thing to do is abandon that stupid religion. I've never understood people who willfully submit to such arbitrary and pointless tyranny. |
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| She is not a catholic, but may have converted so they could marry. I think she returned for the same reason a lot of women do. I don't understand any woman living with a man if she is unhappy, she had no job, no training. I guess they think it's better than nothing. Tracy I don't understand..."cant be doing with Catholics". |
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| sorry im from england,cant be doing with catholics is another way of saying i HATE catholics and cant understand them |
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| That's kind of sad. They don't want any more kids, so they feel they can't be intimate at all? What a nutty theory. Are Catholics aware there are other ways of doing things besides intercourse, or is that sinful too? I understand untangling and disengaging from someone can be hard, but it's not impossible. Investments can be split more readily than that great souvenir you picked up on that vacation. But when it comes down to it, it's all silly anyway. If you're unhappy, no investment is going to make you happy. |
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| Thanks for explaining. My sis was not a catholic. I think the reason she has stayed with him is because she is weak. It takes a lot of strength to head out on your own especially with kids. I did, but not when I wanted to. I needed some emotional support from my family and didn't get that. When I finally got fed up I decided I would just go on welfare until I could find a job that paid enough to live on. Welfare told me if I applied while working the job I had I would get very little money. She said if I quit my job then apply I could get enough money to live on and then get a part time job and still get some welfare. If had gone on welfare it would have been common knowledge back then, my sons friends would have known. I opted to take a $100. a month from my mom and pay her back when/if I married which I did. I don't regret many things in my life, but I do regret taking money from Mom. It didn't put a hardship on her, I just wanted to be independent. |
my husband won't have sex with me.
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| I have been married for 5 years now. My husband and I haven't had sex in 4 1/2 yrs now. Sleeps in one bedroom and me in the other one. I'm a beautiful woman with a nice body, but he won't come near me. I think that he married me for his papers. He is brazilian and I'm American. I don't know what to do. Always asked him, why don't we have sex together anymore. Because you don't find me attracted anymore. PLEASE HELP ME. |
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| After 4 1/2 years, what would "help" look like to you? Perhaps more to the point, what do you think the rest of your life should look like? |
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| Oh thats ridiculous,divorce him ,four and a half years is a long time,get rid and give your beautiful body to someone that appreciates it,what a waste of years.he probably is with you for his papers. |
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| I have the same issue going on with my husband. I got married young and our wedding was in june of this past summer. It is really hard going through this because you feel like he is showing all of his love to porn and not you. I can't even watch a movie without thinking he's drooling over the girls in there and one time he was. The next day after watching kangaroo jack he looked up Estella Warren pics and that just devistated me. I am only 18 but I do know exactly what you're going through. I thought about leaving him over it and hoping hed miss me, realize he was wrong and say sorry. Didn't happen. What I'm saying is, if this bothers u like it bothers me, still, I learned to be very nice and understanding but make it known that you don't like it so he knows it hurts you! After I told my husband I would help him through it, he respected me so much more and said how much he is glad he married me and I believe him because he was even crying. So if you stand beside him through his problems he might even feel too guilty to do it again! I hope you get through this I really do I will pray for you and just remember that God brought you two together for a reason:) |
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| IMO, God had nothing to do with it, good or bad. People have free will and they often make horrible mistakes. Best to admit the mistake, correct it, and go on with life. If anything, if there is a personal, all-knowing God, wouldn't God want for us to be happy, not miserable? |
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| "God brought you two together for a reason" Ah yes...the universal cop-out....sorry not buying it, a lot of people are "brought together" not by God's will but out of pure lust, loneliness, greed (God creates Gold-diggers?), biological clocks, etc. Hard to believe that God had a hand in all the awful, miserable relationships I've witnessed....I'd like to think if there is a God, he/she can make better use of his/her time. |
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| He sounds like a narcissist. He cares only about his needs. You are there to serve him. Look up the term narcissism and narcissistic behavior or traits. I am willing to bet he fits many of the criteria. I doubt he will ever change. The only choice you have to make is to decide how you want to spend the rest of your life. |
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| Asolo, you are so anti God. "The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God..." (Ps. 14:1). Lonely, it is good you can see the bigger picture here. He has to want to change and only in Christ can he become a new creation. All things are possible WITH God. |
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| @peytonroad..... "Asolo, you are so anti God." Well, no. One can't very well be anti-nothing. If he doesn't exist, which is the position I hold, what's to be against? What I am against is people like you who throw out their personal religious biases expecting the argument to end at the moment they speak of what they consider to be sacred -- that which is not to be questioned or argued agaInst. They always seem amazed -- as you seem to be -- that their biblical quotes and blind faith don't engender instant acquiescence. I don't talk about god or religion here or anywhere else unless/until somebody else brings it in first. If you want to quote your fairy-tale book and converse with your imaginary friend, that's OK with me. However, when you bring up out of nowhere a fantasy/magic/faith-based "solution" to a real-world practical problem, you can expect to be challenged. Unlike you, most intelligent people don't consider cliches and aphorisms to be answers to serious questions. And if you want to get further into biblical quotes, you'll soon find your "holy" book rhetorically shredded. |
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| Would be very inconsiderate to continue to post here as this is not about YOU or me. "But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." Mathew 10:33 and to help you understand his love for you despite your false beliefs. Acts 3:19 Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out. |
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| "Would be very inconsiderate to continue to post here as this is not about YOU or me." Sorry...you don't get away free. In fact, you're the one that made it about me. What's "very inconsiderate" is your unrelated-to-topic personal comment about me combined with your ridiculous proselytizing/preaching. Quite the stinking combination. |
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| Asolo agree with you on this 100 percent....how this person can follow up that well-written reply with more bible quotes is beyond me....insane really. It's like they can't even comprehend the fact that there are people that don't drink the religious koolaid.. |
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