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Posted by cheesecurlgurl (My Page) on Tue, Oct 14, 08 at 18:58
| We are in our 40's.Both of us in good shape.We are like best friends,inseperable.We talk all the time; laugh all the time.We don't have the problems that we see other couples having. Now , here's the problem: My husband no longer wants to have sex with me. I has dwindled down to once a month. He won't touch me or put his mouth on me anywhere.He doesn't look at me when I undress. I can't figure it out. We have a business together, so I know where he is all day (with me). I thought he must be having an affair, but if he is not with me, he is with the kids. So there is no time. I asked if it was a physical problem.He said no. Loss of desire ? No. Too much porn? He said he doesn't look at any anymore. When pressed for an honest answer, he said my butt is too big now and it turns him off. I have put on weight, but I was so small before. Now I am 35-28-38 and I like it.I am also very active and have worked out every day for the past 35 years! Can being a size 4 be that much of a turn off? This has been going on for two years!!!! Can someone give me some insight? Thanks. |
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| I'm no man, but here's a thought. A post on another thread indicates that you may have some sexual fantasies that do not match your husband's. Is it possible that this might be a source of contention, resentment? Is it possible for a size 4 butt to be a turn off? Sure. But without question, that feeling is rooted somewhere else. You're arse is just a distraction from the real problem - which he may not necessarily be in tune with. It's much easier to focus on physical feature excuses. You have to make it a safe place for him to explore his issues, otherwise he will keep those hidden from you and perhaps even himself. |
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| I think cheesecurl's comment on the other thread was probably more based on the fact that she's not getting any when she wants to, more then she really has some warped sexual fantasies that don't match her husbands. What's the saying... Sex really isn't all that important, unless you're not getting any, and then it seems to become everything. Obvioulsy, I'm not a guy either, but there aren't a lot here so you may be waiting for a while for their comments. There's a couple things that stick out to me. First, it's great that you are friends but it sounds like maybe you've fallen into that brother/sister friendship mode. Have you considered trying to make him a little jealous? Let him know other guys are noticing you. Buy some outfits a little too revealing. Go out without telling him exactly where you're going or who you'll be with, come home late, etc... let his mind wonder. I don't really think it has much to do with your behind. For guys that may not know, a size 4 is pretty darn small. ...like smaller than some skinny models. Another thing that jumps out is the no porn comment. Ok, maybe your guy really does tell you the truth about his porn habits. Well, then, why isn't he checking out girls with great asses there? It sounds like maybe his desire is off even if he doesn't want to admit it. And, I hate, hate to say this, (good sounding relationship and all), but could there be someone else? Could he be getting it elsewhere? I can't imagine any guy telling his wife he doesn't like her behind unless it really is a nicer thing to say than the actual truth. --- "I'm screwing my secretary so I'm not in the mood... hum, maybe I should just go with..."your ass looks flabby, dear, and it's just not doing much for me" --- I mean how many guys have acutal told a woman something that negative about her body especially considering the fact that this poster's measurements are very, very decent. There's a lot more to this story than he's letting on. Maybe he's not even aware of what the problem is. Maybe he lost his libido and he's pushing the blame onto you. Obviously something has to be done. You can't continue on like this forever; have you guys considered counseling? I too am interested to see what the guys have to say. |
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| You are right about the brother/sister mode. I feel as though I live with my best, platonic friend. It is so nice ,but there is nothing physical. I feel that because of the nature of our relationship,neither one of us wants to ask for a divorce.Why leave? It's perfect. My husband has always been extremely jealous,but now he does not care if guys look at me,talk to me. I am not trying to make him jealous. It doesn't seem possible,now. I have also tried looking at porn myself and showing him,but he's not interested. I thought it had to be another woman. But ,when? There's really no time for him to be carrying on with someone else. Perhaps he's finding the time.I ask him about that and he always gets angry that I am accusing him of something he's not doing.He was angry that someone was feeding me false information about him, I have been with him so long, I honestly believe he is NOT having an affair.You can kind of sense those things, you know? I just wish I knew what it was. We have always been the strolling-through-the-mall-holding-hands type, and now I am lucky to get a peck on the cheek. Maybe we should just have the divorce talk.Maybe that will force his hand. Thank you for the input,both of you. |
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| Perhaps the problem is simply too much togetherness. You are together all the time, and maybe that in itself has ruined his desire for you. Another possibility could be if you have any type of a controlling personality, or strong type A. I was listening to psychologist talk about how that can turn off some men. And last, could be if he is using porn to meet his needs, and really doesn't want or need you in that way. A man on the radio yesterday wrote a book about this very problem in his own marriage. The book is titled: Porn Nation. I imagine it is worth taking a look at the book, and may help you both understand this. I was in and out of the car, so I did not hear the whole interview, but as the guy described his own use of porn, I imagined a lot of people could probably relate to what he had to say. |
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| Some prescription medications can lower one's libido. You might check into that. He could also have his testosterone levels checked. I also agree with the too much togetherness theory. Please post back and let us know if you find a solution. I'm also married to my best friend and we haven't had sex in over 2 years. Kalahari |
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| I read the other post too. Could it be that the fantasy's and what you are into he no longer finds OK? Could it now be a major turnoff for him, and he no longer wants any part of it? Perhaps he went along with it in his youth, and pre-kids, but now perhaps he feels different about it. Could it be hard for him to see the mother of his children into what ever it is you fantasize about? And yet you have children together, to raise, and a business and all the responsibilities that go along with both the family and business. For both of you, you would have everything to lose if not together. |
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| Hi,Bnice. Two years!!! My gosh! See. I am afraid that is where my marriage is headed. I tried talking to him last night (as he kept trying to walk away and avoid all eye contact) and he said ,unconvincingly,that the problem wasn't my weight. But he did let me snuggle up to him and kiss him without pushing me away and he actually copped a feel!!!!! Woooo!!! He says he is just tired from working so much. We'll see. Did you ever consider divorce? I can live without the sex, but there has to be some physical affection. It embarrasses me to think me husband is turned off by me, As far as the togetherness theory,that is his doing.He wants us always to be together because he misses me,he says.He no longer sees his friends and rarely sees family. But we both love our time alone and we give each other space.Not too often, though! And as far as my fantasies, I am an open person,but I am not pushy. I am more like, "If you are ever into doing such-and-such, I am willing to do that." And that is it. I just like to leave the door open for discussion. And he is not on medications.Or drugs.I don't know about the testoterone. i think I will let that drop because he said the problem wasn't a loss of desire or impotence.I guess I will only know if he opens up and tells me. You know, men would be much happier if they would open up their darn mouths and talk to their women. |
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| There have been articles written, and I imagine it is fairly common that people lose interest when they are working hard, and are tired. I imagine the stress of those whose companies are down sizing (or small businesses struggling) can also have an impact in this area. There is so much pressure on people today. From work problems, to economic, to home work hassles, to teen issues, to aging parents, or divorce and all of those issues, to laundry up to your knees. I imagine it is having its impact in this area as well. |
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| "... he said the problem wasn't a loss of desire or impotence." Rather a contradiction, I'd say. "...men would be much happier if they would open up their darn mouths and talk..." Yup. Women, too. Something's going on. Talk would be swell about now. Hopefully followed by action. |
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| "He no longer sees his friends and rarely sees family" This is rather curious. Sometimes I think it is difficult go get yourself out of a rut, life is tough. If he is pushing away friends, family and you..then sounds like depression to me. These social contacts with other people are important for our well being. What joy do you have in your lives ? I haven't read all the posts so I appologise if you you have already touched on this. |
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| Please have him see a doctor about depression. You described the relationship between me and my husband. We had fallen into the brother/sister thing. He was tired, not in the mood etc. It's all signs of depression. I'm afraid its too late for us. My husband asked for a divorce last month because he feels like we have become roommates. He loves me but isn't in love with me. I wish I had seen the signs of depression early and pushed him to go to a doctor. |
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I don't understand how this can be depression. I have read this over and over in this forum. My husband is very jovial. we are always laughing and carrying on. i know depression isn't the same as being sad,because I have had bouts of it all my life and I know I have no personality when i am going through it. He is not sitting around lifeless, he is totally normal. He just doesn't want sex. Is there such a thing as a happy,depressed person? |
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| It doesn't really sound like depression to me, but it's worth considering. So, here's what you have: He said he hasn't lost interest (maybe guys can speak to this... but even if he's not finding you great looking, if he's got the desire, I would think he's going to want to do something form time to time... you can't be totally grossing him out). I really think you need to push this desire thing. If he were tired, stressed (or depressed) as some suggested, desire would fade and that would be the problem to fix. He's saying that's not the case. He's (we think) not using porn. So, how is he being satisfied? I'd come right out and ask him. I still wouldn't rule out an emotional affair (I know he's always with the kids, but what if it's with a soccer mom or the woman who delivers his mail at work?) Someone or something is making him lose his desire for you personally. He doesn't despise or hate you, you're not fighting, I'm sure you're fine looking... what else could it be? What would make you not want your husband? Think about it. |
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Guess what. I was online and I clicked on an icon to see what it was (new computer) and found all the files. So I started opening them up and found porn sites and saved photos of celebrities in bikinis,etc. There was a long list and I get to the bottom and open a file that was just created and it was gay porn. I guess he is gay? I never would have thought that. I'm bi and I just don't see it in him. It was hard core stuff, not just photos of men. The funny thing is, he has been more affectionate lately. No sex, but pulling me in for a hug here and there. I don't know what to do. I don't have money for a lawyer. I just want to thank everybody for helping me ,though. It is nice to have people to talk to. |
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| Well, there you go. Someone usually comes up with the 'maybe he's gay' idea but I guess we got side tracted with his comment about your behind. Is there a chance he's bi too? Do you think he is having an affair with someone? Let us know what he says when you confront him with everything. Are you consdiering staying with him anyway because of the kids or what? I would certainly think you could come up with enought money to divorce him if you really wanted to. Sounds like you're not too set on wanting to leave him. Let us know how it goes down.... |
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First of all I have E/D and my performance is zip hadn't had sex in about 25 years. After 40 years of marriage I find my wife unappealing and very boring. She weighs about 140 5'6" tall and god I don't even want to see her naked. I almost want to throw up when she wanders around naked. She was always terrible in bed. Like get this over with. So after the E/D thing it was a good time to just not have sex any more. I've been happy without it. |
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| Wow Matt. I'm 5'3" and 135. And let me tell you, I've never had a guy complain about my weight. I'm married, I've had a child and still get propositioned often. Ever wonder if the reason she was acting as if "get this over with" is because you were lousy in bed and not all that good looking either? |
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| Or maybe Matt and Amy are the same person??? This is from the maxed out thread: "Posted by Amy (cvett84@yahoo.com) on Tue, Dec 14, 10 at 12:52 My husband has had E/D for about 25 years and has other medical issues for which he takes meds. 25 years is a long time without sex. He totally enjoys being without sex or any intimacy at all. I use to nag him and cry out of frustration but in my heart I knew that wouldn't work. I finally decided to take my life in my hands and create a group of friends whom I enjoy being with. This group consists of married couples, unmarried men and women. I some how let myself get involved with another women and the sex was great and also other men, three somes and more. I'm really enjoying the sexual freedom. I think my husband knows whats going on but he doesn't say anything about it. Maybe I sound like a slut but I'm a very sexual person and all this sex has made me feel like a real person again. I'm still legally married to my husband but have alot of sex on the side." |
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| Oh, hell, tracystoke! Erectile Dysfuntion. What he's saying is he either can't get hard or can't stay hard long enough. Do you read? |
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| no i dont read and havnt read the other posts.But you obviously know alot about it.LOL |
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| Yeah, that was too much. Sorry, all. I apologize, tracystoke. |
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| appoligy accepted,obviously a very touchy subject, |
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| Subject not "touchy" at all. Actually, so highly publicized for more than a decade since the introduction of Viagra, I was astonished to encounter anyone who didn't know what it was. Still, my post was boorish and inappropriate. The apology stands. Thanks for letting me off the hook. |
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| Married 40+ years and I don't want any thing from my wife, No sex, intimacy or love. She is free to do what she likes. I on the other hand don't like being touched by my wife or anyone else. I even don't go any where where I know thre will be a crowd. I shake and sweat when touched. I really think its great not having sex, when we had sex years ago like 27 or so years it was boring, to much effort with little reward a real waste of time. Wife on the other hand likes sex, and she feels lonely, unwanted and depressed. But Prozac fixed her . I only want her as a friend and not a wife. |
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| Gee you're a bundle of joy, Mike. |
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| Prozac "fixed" her? WOW. Some "friend" you are. |
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| Troll. Mark, Mike, whomever. |
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| I've been married now for 18 yrs and ever since the I do's sex has been at a bare minimum. Our longest spell has been 2yrs without sex,but its usually 16months. Everytime we do have sex he only wants anal. I really think he's gay,and when I've approached the subject he gets really angry and lashes out at gays.he also prefers to masterbate,he's never gone down on me and if we didn't have sex itd be fine with him. Its sad cuz I thought we cud grow old in love together. Sometimes I get so horney I wish I had the guts to cheat on him! What do I do? |
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| "What do I do?" If you haven't figured that out in 18 years, I doubt you will now. Thinking there must be something good about him if you're still there. Is there? |
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| "What do I do?" Cancel your engagement and wedding plans to begin with. Then either work on the rest, if you want to, or move on. Do NOT expect him to change. Do NOT get it in your head that your ministrations will "bring him back." I'm sure he's a fine fellow. I doubt that covers the ground for you. For some women, this would be no big deal. From what you wrote, you appear to be a normal, healthy young woman for whom this condition would not be acceptable in a spouse. |
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| I'm a female in the same situation and I am very frustrated. My husband only wants sex about once a month maybe twice if I am lucky but then it is so quick and over before it began that I still never get satisfied. I hate it and have been thinking of cheating to get satisfied but I have deep guilt feelings to deal with. |
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| And how would you feel if your husband wrote that post, MPatt? If he got on here and said that you don't have sex with him often enough and when you do it's not good, so he is going to cheat? How would you react? Would you say "why didn't he talk to me about this", or "I didn't realize it was that bad" or what? Would you be angry with him for attempting to solve the problem, or at least get his jollies, by seeing someone else behind your back? Your guilt is telling you something. |
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I am a woman but I am fairly insightful. I realize the posts are old, but maybe this will help someone. I am really curious to know how it all turned out for cheesecurlgirl. When a man doesn't live up to the typical standard of wanting sex all the time he feels like less of a man. When you ask a man "why don't you want sex?" its like you just kicked him in the crotch. Therefore he will usually get defensive, and probably insult you in someway to even the score. So, the butt comment was not true. If you are a man filled with sexual desire, and you don't like your woman's butt, you dont give up sex! you encourage positions that create the view you want! He is at an age where testosterone drops and libido changes, that could give him anxiety which further brings down libido. Encouraging him to go get his hormones checked (based on a symptom besides libido) isn't a bad idea! If you are in this situation, where he isn't interested, and you are: don't bring up the past or the shortcomings at all. Instead try asking him if he has any unfulfilled fantasies, or something of that nature. You do need to spend some time apart, or you start to take each other for granted. As for the gay porn, well that could be: plain curiosity and he didn't mean to save it, an accidental download he got interrupted during and didn't open the folder yet, or maybe he is gay/bi/bi-curious. |
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To Mpatt I think it's good you are reaching out instead of just going out and having an affair. I don't think anyone should criticize you for that post! I think you should go pick up a cosmo magazine or get a subscription, they have tons of good ideas to spice it up every month. The one thing they always say, and I agree, is that the best way to let a man know how to please you is to show him, and a lot of men really enjoy watching a woman...go solo! This isn't something you discuss beforehand, the next time you are about to have sex gently push him back and say "watch" with an evil grin :) then show him. That means you do have to go solo before you do this. Toys are optional. The benefit to this technique is you get satisfied before he gets to start! And, after you are ...satisfied once, the second time comes faster...and the third....etc. If you are totally uncomfortable with that, then that does bring up other issues that might be effecting things. But if that's the case Get a DVD or find online some porn that really displays what you want/fantasize about. Then just say "I have a surprise for you tonight!" and put it on. Watch it together and point out things you like with small comments like "that turns me on!" or "that is so hot!" you can ask "do you ever fantasize about...." Remember men are visual he will be focused on the show so keep it short, DO NOT say "why dont you..." or "you never...." Be very careful not to criticize him or threaten his manhood. If he looks at porn alone sneak a peek and see what he likes, maybe you can create a live version of a fantasy of his. As women we always want to talk about things, this is the one time I think we should ignore that urge! Talking about this issue makes it worse 99.9% of the time. This is an action situation. I will check back, and offer more suggestions if you want. If you want someone to talk to about this I will email you if your email is private (not shared with husband) just post here if you want me to email you. I don't check the account listed on this post, I would email you from a different account, if you want me to. |
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| To Hello - I'm not knocking your post, but I'm wondering if you are a woman as you claim (You said "As women we always want to talk about things"). Yet your email address, clearly shown above your post, seems to indicate otherwise. You offer to correspond with MPatt via email. I question your motives if, in fact, you are a man, which I believe you are. In my opinion no woman would ever use an email address like that. Yet you offer to discuss intricate sexual activities via email with MPatt. Remember folks - err on the side of caution. The internet is a wonderful thing but can be slimy and dangerous if you're not cautious. |
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| How would the email address "Just.my.junk@live.com" be indicative that it's a man? Clearly it's an email set up for misc. internet stuff so the person's main email address does not get flooded by junk mail. I have one on Yahoo...so my work email doesn't get on too many spam lists. I read Hello's post and thought "wow this could have been written by my girlfriend"...she is open about all kinds of stuff and always looking to spice things up a bit. Don't assume because someone is sexually open and experimental and likes porn, they must be a guy. My GF and me are about 75 miles apart and really only see each other on the weekends because of work, our kids, etc., and i can tell you sometimes when I call her at night and say "what ya doing?" she will come right out and say "surfing porn" - LOL! I love how she does not feel she has to repress this side of her.! |
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| You may be right, mkroopy, that I assumed the wrong thing from the email address. My (perhaps erroneous) assumption had nothing to do with the sexual openness or appetite for porn. |
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| I have been married 20 years. Lack of sex has been an issue since before we were married. After 20 we have sex once a year, once every 18 months and so on. Am I dumb? My husband is super attached to his family, to the point that he disses me when it is a choice between me and them. I have thought in the past he might be gay, but he would never ever admit it. Way too Catholic. Help!! |
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| "Am I dumb?" Reconsider what you wrote and come back and tell us what you think. Issue before marriage....but you married anyway. Issue for 20 years during marriage....but you stayed. Issue right now....but you're still there. Plus the family issues. Apparently you've become accustomed. Surely there must be something worthwhile going on. What would "help" look like to you right now? |
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| My husband and I have only been married for 4 months but have been together for 3 years. For about the first 4 months of our relationship sex was great! He was always in the mood. However, he is a bad alcoholic and saids that he just has no desire to have sex as often as I would like. We may have sex once a week and then again it could be more than that. I start feeling like he is not attracted to me and that I'm doing something wrong. Should I be feeling this way. I know that he is not into porn or other women but it still hurts. |
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| So 3 years ago you had great sex for 4 months. And he's a bad alcoholic. And you married him anyway, 4 months ago. Why didn't you address this issue 2 years and 8 months ago? And, maybe reconsider marrying a bad alcoholic? I truly hope that things go well for you, but I don't have a lot of hope for your happiness. Whether you should feel unattractive or that you're doing something wrong isn't, in my opinion, the point. But since it seems to be what you're concerned about, I'd say no, that's not the problem. Try to not feel that it is you and see if you can get to the root of the problem. |
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#1 sex killer in a marraige, outside of medical causes, is resentment. Nothing reduces desire more efficiently. Seeking extra-marital relations is secondary. A cheating husband or wife resents their mate first. Ask yourself what could he resent? The stress of owning a business? How much is demanded of his time? The fact that you are always together? Sounds like he needs some time with the guys to remember he's a guy. Putting your energy into something positive will give him space and be good for you as well. Consider counseling. It is good to have a moderater. Maybe, find a male therapist so he doesn't feel outnumbered. It sounds like you spend a lot of time together but are not very close, emotionally. @merly Life is short and you have already invested a lot of time into your marraige. Allow yourself to think about not being married. Divorce is not a sin. When one spouse withholds sex and affection from another it is a sin against the marraige. It sounds like you would get an annulment fairly easily. Whether your husband gay, I can't say. He may also have been abused and aviods sexual intimacy because of it. After 20 years, though, this should not be your burden. You can be saying the same thing in another 20 years or " remember when." |
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