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Posted by nancedar (My Page) on Sat, Feb 25, 06 at 6:49
| My daughter bought a very nice 1997 MH and wants to paint over the patterned vinyl-coated wallboard. Anyone know what kind of paint to buy and what prep is needed to cover this slightly textured vinyl successfully? |
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| Roughen the surface with sandpaper and use an epoxy paint. |
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| You are probably better covering it with another coat of vinyl wallpaper in the color of your choice. Maybe you could sand it, but I would have to see that done. |
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| i've had excellent luck using Behr Premium Plus Paint. Our wallboard had the vinyl coating (but without a wallpaper pattern, just a little bit of a swirly texture). Some rooms were primed first, others weren't. I didn't really notice any difference in the ease at which the paint went on, all rooms that were painted with Behr Premium (whether primed or not) were easy to paint and the paint has held up well. The only room that we painted with a different brand of paint (walmart brand) we had a lot of problems with. The paint smeared when it was rolled on, and if you brushed against it it peeled off. hope this info helps! jiggreen |
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I have painted over nearly all of my rooms-3 of which had the vinyl wallpaper print. The best way is to simple go to Home Depot and get a water based primer called "Gripper". Roll on a THIN coat-evenly on the walls, then you can apply whatever sheen you want. I used a satin finish on some & semi-gloss on others.I also used Sherwin Williams paints. NOTE: A professional painter who did my living room-also told me when doing any moldings? Prime with the Gripper and then paint the moldings with Rust-O-Leum paints for a hard durable finish. ALSO-I used Gripper on my laminated dressers & nightstands & old brass colored lamp bases, then painted them white in my shabby chic bedroom. You'd swear these 'mobile home furniture pieces' were real wood! No need to sand walls or dressers, etc-just aply that primer in a thin even coat! |
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I have a 5 gallon can of Gripper primer I've been using in my porch repair. It's great paint. I still have my fingers crossed when it comes time to use it on my vinyl walls. Glad to hear it's worked for you, Sharon fl. Norm |
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| Okay, I have painted over our walls...all of them and some more than one time in the last 4 years. It's really easier than most of the others are making it sound. I didn't use primer in the beginning and I certainly did not go around sanding every wall. I have used it (Usually Kilz water based primer) since when I was making big color changes but that's it. Just make sure the walls are clean and start painting. In most rooms I did 3 coats of paint to get a good coverage but believe me, it was WORTH it in the end. I use Color Place paint from Wal-Mart and have had no problems with getting it to stick or stay and it's considerably less in cost than other brands. I have tried others but I still end up doing the same amount of coats so might as well save myself the money. I have found that I was so used to being able to wipe the walls and such that I prefer the semi-gloss to anything else but also have used Satin quite a few times. I have kids and well, they make messes :). It also seems to hold up much better. Paint is certainly your friend in a MH and it makes the world of a difference! I have painted so many items I can't tell you but it's really brightened up the place and made it our own! Good luck! |
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| I'm not sure my walls are the same as yours but they do seem to be "plastic-y" and there are nasty seam covering strips that I really don't like. Little by little I am taking those down, spackling the gaps, and priming and painting. So far this has worked best for me: 1. Remove those strips (if they bother you like they do me) and fill the gaps with flexible, lightweight spackle...the kind that promises not to crack. Either smooth it out as you go or go back and sand a little. Don't get crazy...the rest of the wall has some texture to it anyway. 2. PRIME the walls with something like Zinzer (spelling?) I tried an experiment in my kitchen on a wall I was covering with a back board for mounting a pot rack. No primer + paint...I could lift the paint with a light fingernail. Primer + paint...it's there to stay. AND the color is smooth and even and it only took one coat, even over the wild, dark red and blue flowered stuff. The paint alone didn't cover it. 3. Paint with any halfway decent paint. I use latex...usually the stuff from Walmart. It works, they mix the colors for free, and it doesn't smell too awful. Works for me. |
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| Thanks all, for posting your experiences. The information is very useful. I have been wondering what I would need to do if I decided to paint the walls in my MFH. |
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| I posted pictures in another thread about painting on vinyl walls. We used Lowes American Traditions and didn't do any special prep. It was all very easy.... Lynne |
Here is a link that might be useful: before and after pictures
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| I have to share this information and ask if anyone has ever had this problem. I used a primer (wal-mart brand Kilz) first. I used 3 coats then I painted over the primer and after it dried the paint just peeled right off! I mean in sheats not small pieces. Does anyone have any advice on why this happened? |
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| Pam, could there have been some type of residue on the walls before hand? Did you try scrubbing them first? Also, did you allow time for each coat of paint to dry first? If you paint too fast, the other layers won't have time to adhere and they can pull right up. Sorry you had so much trouble. I haven't seen that happen here. |
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| Thank you for the inspiration, I have begun the process of removing those "wonderful" strips. Any additional info or advice would be appreciate it. |
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| My MH is an 80's model and we have the wallboard also. My only problem is the wallboard is faux paneling. The grooves are not deep like real paneling, but will still leave an indention if I painted over it. Any suggestions? I used walmart paint in my bathroom, kitchen and kids bathroom. The previous owners had painted it pink and it was peeling and chipping. I sanded the walls and sanded off the old paint (in my bathroom) and repainted, that was about 5 months ago (for my bath) and a year ago for the kitchen and kids bath. Now, for some odd reason, there are these yellow streeks running down all the walls I painted. It can be wiped off, but it's annoying. I've been told it could be nicotine from the previous owners (they lived here 12 years and smoked) and I've heard it's old paint, and the paint in the bathroom is still peeling. Any suggestoins? Thanks |
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| I run a program for kids and we just purchased a trailer and there are vinyl panneled walls that have been patched with drywall and then there are pieces that are peeling off. I have seen the photos and read all of the comments. Since these walls have been used as a classroom should I wash the walls all down first, patch with the dry wall tape/DAP mud, KILZ primer and then one coat of paint? Right now the walls are soft enough to staple into to hang the kids art, alphabet letters and other classroom decorations. Will painting the walls create a problem with doing these things? I'm not sure if anyone would be able to answer these questions but the trailer companies want to charge an arm and leg to help and being that we don't have that much money I need to do this on my own. Thanks if you can help with any info. Oh ya...I have 3 days to get all the work done. Location: S. California |
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| If the walls have grease or dirt on them I would wash them first. You shouldn't have any problems when it comes to hanging stuff on painted walls (thumb tacks will push right through). When it comes to the sheen of the paint there are a couple of considerations. Flatter the sheen the better it hides imperfections. The higher the sheen the easier to clean. I hope this has been helpfull for you. |
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| Hi there, How about tips on how to paint over textured vinyl wallboard? I have hideous walls in my new place and LOTS of holes. I know I can fill them in with spackle but after sanding those areas they will be smooth...and the walls are not. They have kindov a wicker print/texture on them. Any ideas? |
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| sister in law did all the walls in her doublewide..she even removed the battens and caulked them, but they did crack so i don't advise removing the battens..however..a good primer and 2 coats of any paint should work fine..scrub them clean first |
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| I removed the battens, (those ugly strips) filled and taped with dry wall compound. When that was good and dry, I slathered compound all over the walls to give it texture, when it was almost dry I knocked down any high spots with one of those dry wall sanding pads. It really made a mess. I primed with Kilz and let it dry fully. Then I painted with Walmart paint. It turned out great. It's been 2 years and I've had no problem with anything cracking or peeling (it even survived the earthquake we had last spring). I wasn't sure it was going to work when I started it but I figured what the heck I won't know until I try it. My next project is going to be my kitchen--those ugly batten strips and the horrible striped wall paper is enough to drive me mad. I think I'm going to pull the strips down, tape and mud the cracks and use a textured wallpaper thats paintable. I'm sure I'll have to use a wallpaper sizing on the walls before papering. My attitude is to just go for it. Good luck! |
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| I rent a MH, the living room is the only room with textured drywall walls. The three bedrooms, 2 baths and laundry room, kitchen and hall all had the wallboard covered walls. The owner had painted the kitchen so I knew it could be done. I just didn't know how. So like last poster mentioned, I just went for it. I bought Walmart Semi-gloss paint (that's all I ever use) and simply painted the walls. Some of them I did a faux finish, some I did solid. In the kitchen I didn't like the baton strips either, so I took em down and covered the walls w/drywall mud and did a colorwash over them. I wash them a few times a year, no problem. The rest of the walls have enough texture on them to give some depth. Now every room in the house is painted. I used "dune" for solid walls, and "dune" and "spanish Chestnut" for the colorwash. It is a very neutral color and goes well w/ everything. |
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| If it's the same type in my double wide I just painted it. No sanding, prepping of any sort. Looks great. I don't see what all the fuss is about. |
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I'm so glad I found this post! My walls are actually pretty nice most are white I just need a change after 10 years. I've been thinking about painting my walls for a few years, but have been afraid to, thinking I would completly ruin them. Are there any more experiences with taking the battens off, I hate them, but I don't want them to crack either. I would like to hear from more of you that have taken the battens off & what you did to cover the cracks up. Thanks to everyone else for the good advice on how to paint these walls. JUDY |
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| I am new to this site. I have just spent the last week scraping off the paint in my livingroom due to it not sticking to the walls! I went to Lowes and asked for help the first go round. I primed the walls with Kilz and used the Latex paint that was suggested. I now have about 5 rooms in my house that if you brush against them, the paint peels off!! I am redoing one at a time. This is a brand new house straight from the manufacturer, so the walls were clean. I was told to use oil base paint, which no one is carrying anymore. So, if someone will please tell me what kind of paint I need to use I would greatly appreciate it!! I don't want to have to scrape anymore walls. lol |
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| Just moved into an 80's MH. The walls are not my taste and I want to paint them. Tried a test area and the paint peeled. Cleaned and prepped it well - with primer and without - what am I doing wrong? I need help - I really don't like the papers in this place. Thanks! |
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I have redone several rooms in my neighbor's homes here in our park. One room was for a 'bachelor' & the bedroom walls were papered in flowers. I was told to use an OIL based PRIMER which I did-then could use any latex paint to paint with. HD rep said by using a water based primer-it might lift the wallpaper-as many pre-pasted wallpapers use water to adhere them to your walls (made sense!).Sure stunk-had to keep the windows open a couple of day tho. The room turned out great. The secret to using any primer (I ONLY use Gripper)-is to NOT be in a hurry to paint over it the minute you think it's dry. It has to 'season' for 3-4 days to properly accept paint. Also-the reason most new paint peels off are twofold: 1. Greasy walls weren't washed or some existing paints on the walls may have been a gloss or semi-gloss or have a satiny sheen whereas-a latex primer isn't the best solution-an oil primer is better. You can use water based primer over a matte or satin paint but NOT on a semi-gloss or gloss paint. 2. You are applying the primer on- way too thick-then when you apply the topcoat of paint-it will peel right off. I learned this very early in my room makeovers...10 yrs ago. Note..Why Gripper? It is a primer that will cover ANY slick material..formica, vinyl, brass, gloss paint, etc. It has to be applied evenly- (I roller it quickly sometimes, then use a good brush to smooth it out.One coat-don't keep going over it. Most of all-let it 'season' for at least 3-4 days before painting w/a Latex paint. Most folks tend to think by applying a thick coat of primer-you won't have to use as much topcoat. Primer's purpose is to stop any stains, watermarks from seeping thru and to cover any printed design in the wallcovering. Usually 1 coat of your paint will cover your primer-but if not? Better to apply another thin coat of your paint vs a thicker coat of primer at the get go. |
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| I just purchased a trailer and it really needs a paint job on the inside. The previous owners were smokers and the wall board has nicotine stains. How do I clean it to accept a paint and primer? Also some of the bedrooms have been painted over, but their paint is peeling off. What do I need to do to paint over these rooms? Do I have to peel all that old stuff off first? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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| painted over mine and did nothing special to the walls first. i used benjamin moore paint in the kitchen and it covered in one coat-i love that paint. the other walls were already painted when i bought it used so i don't know what the previous owner did. don't see any big deal in painting them-just do what you would do in a stick built home |
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| I have an 80's manufactured home and I use the Kilz primer and Fred Meyer paint, usually Dutch Boy. It works great and I haven't had any problem. I did about three light coats of the primer (letting each one dry) to finally cover some of that original floral paper. I just painted one of the bedrooms this weekend and it's looks great! I've never used Walmart paint, but my Mom (who paints everything) always says that with paint, like everything else, you get what you pay for. She doesn't buy high dollar brands, but she doesn't go with the cheapest either. With good prep work, any good quality paint should hold up well. |
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