If you're intending to swap the bulb out within a couple of months, I'd either find a cheaper alternative or stick with the current.

Btw, Cree has also introduced BR30 bulbs (625 lumens) @ ~ $20, available in Home Depot. Both daylight and soft white.

Davidtay, I intend to go with 6" cans as I feel they give off more light so I would need PAR38 or BR40 bulbs UNLESS I go with smaller cans. 625 lumen's is not enough for me. I would like the lumen's to be over 800 and preferably 900 if possible per bulb. I also like the 3,000K color temperature. I will not swap out the bulbs right away and will use the bulbs until they are not giving great light. The bulbs in my kitchen are the Reveal Halogens at I think at 950 lumen's each that have been there now for 1.5 years and have not died yet as I am not in the kitchen that long and usually eat at my home office desk as I catch up with emails. But when they start to need to be replaced, I will go with LED.

I wish the CREE retrofit kits would be less than $100 for the lumens and color temperature that I want.

If you use standard A shaped bulbs, more light is required as quite a bit will be trapped inside the can.

The new BR 30 from Cree has a lower output as the "led filament tower" is more suited for omni directional light.

I used to deploy 23w cfl bulbs in cans until I saw the LR6. Even though the 23w cfls were supposed to output > 1200 lumens, the actual output from the can was less than a LR6.

Thank you Davidtay so much for this information. I will look into the BR30 and stop worrying about Lumens. Maybe I can put 9 spread around the room. What size can would I need?

That depends on your intended style - 4" if you want small holes for a more modern style. 6" IMO is saner - more room for large hands inside the can, probably cheaper and better spread.

I have one TCP PAR20 LED - 3000K, 450 lumens, and draws 9 watts. I think was about $20. Really nice light quality. I've always liked 3000K. Just too bad Cree/Home Depot didn't, and still doesn't, offer that color temp in the CR6. (Yes I know Cree has recently announced newer CR6s in other color temps. But too late for me.)

At some point, I'd like to change a bunch of my BR40s over to the TCP 3000K LED BR40s. They are in sloped ceiling cans, so can not use a CR6-like conversion. But those particular lights are not used enough to justify the upgrade just yet.

wws944, thank you so much for letting me know that you like the color temperature and the quality of this light. The price is good and it is 3,000K which is what I want. I wish Cree would come out with a PAR38 high lumens 3,000K color temperature that is not way over $100 per bulb kit. I like the 90 CRI of the Cree and the retrofit look but the TCP has an 85 CRI which is close and the price is so much less with the color bulb that I really want. I feel good when I am around 3,000K.