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| The way I would do it is to divide up the area into 2 - the kitchen proper and the sun room. As far as possible, I would try to maintain a regular pattern, unless the plan is to mimic a star pattern. The threads linked below should be helpful LED UCL continuation |
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| davidtay - thanks Yes the sun room lights are separate from the kitchen. I will check the links - I think I read that CR7 work better than the LR7 LEDs but will check the links again. I will see if we can make the lights in a more regular pattern - the problem is the different sides of the kitchen aren't totally regular. |
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| I wouldn't worry about having the lights exactly over the counter top or being just outside the edge. The light spread from the Cree lights (especially the LR6) is really good, quite different from the standard recessed can. Your UCL will take care of the task lighting requirement. Since the Cree lights have quite a bit of light spillage, it might not be necessary to put cans or a surface mount in the center of the room. However, if you intend to have a chandelier/ something on a separate circuit, that might be an interesting combination. There are only LR6 and CR6 type lights (6" Cree). The CR6 is better in terms of dimmability. If you want a higher color temp (3500k), LR6 would be the best choice. If you're thinking about pendants, the rough estimate for a 40W pendant is ~ 400 - 500 lumens. Tape lighting may work better than rope lighting. For inspiration on indirect lighting, look at the examples on http://www.phantomlighting.com. For UCL direct wire. Do also check with your cabinet maker that the bottoms are flat without any intervening styles. Also find out the depth of the recess/ molding on the bottom as that would influence the decision on where to locate the electrical connection box - inside the cabinet or on the underside. This is for direct wire LED bars which will not have a body to house the connectors and wiring ends. |
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| Davidtay - thanks for your suggestions - I actually think it is tape lighting - but just called it rope - guess, I am not an electrical person despite my dad's influence. What do you think on the GMlightbars vs the Philips? I will check out Phillips. Good suggestions - it is really helpful to know what questions to ask! I am printing your responses to take the lighting person and also when I next meet with the electrician. Have you used the APS angle plug strips? They have 2 models - one is just plugs and the other also can do switching. Thanks! |
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| The GM LARC3 light bars are 12V low voltage unlike the Philips profile bars which are (120V AC) direct wire. Both are dimmable. There are higher output low voltage light bars available. I would recommend No, I've not used the APS angle plug strips. I had a discussion with my cabinet maker on the practicality of outlets mounted on the underside of cabinets some time ago and decided against them. |
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| Thanks David for your suggestions. It is great to have experts on the forum as I am far from being an expert! |
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| You're welcomed. Expertise is gained by doing things and/ or learning from others and remembering the lessons. The final nail in the coffin for under- mounted outlets was the realization that the number of appliances on the counter top would not be more than 2 -4 as most are fairly bulky and quite impractical to leave plugged in (just in case they will be used). |
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