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Washing machine with tankless heater

LARemodel
9 years ago

I'm planning a bathroom and laundry room remodel. As part of the renovation, my contractor has recommended switching from a hot water tank to tankless.

Will going tankless be a problem for getting hot water to the washing machine? Are there specific brands or types I should consider if I decide to purchase a new washer? I think my current machine is about six or seven years old. It's a front-loading LG with steam option (which I've never used).

Comments (11)

  • georgect
    9 years ago

    Before you do anything do LOTS of homework before making the tankless plunge.

    Read the info. in the link I provided.
    Really think about this big decision.
    Research the internet, read all the pros and cons on the subject.
    Personally I never liked tankless for bunch of reasons as stated in the link.

    I went with an "Indirect" hot water system.
    Indirect hot water systems use a storage tank that runs a loop through your already hot boiler.
    I have the Buderus Logano 115WS (oil fired, hot water heating system) with LT-Series Vertical storage tank.

    You have lots of options out there so check them all out.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Tankless water heaters: Everything you wanted to know

    This post was edited by georgect on Tue, Jul 29, 14 at 23:20

  • mrb627
    9 years ago

    To better answer your question, you will have an issue getting hot water to your LG machine. The rapid on/off pattern of the LG filling will not be enough to trigger the heater to turn on. Unless you run the hot water at a nearby sink until it is piping hot, then start the washer, once the washer has filled, shut the sink off.

    MRB

  • georgect
    9 years ago

    @mrb627

    You make a good point.

    Today's HE machines don't run straight hot (or cold) until they are filled.
    They mix a little hot then a little cold (and NOT together) they switch off between the two.
    Even hot isn't all hot water, it is mixed with cold to meet a predetermined temperature that the manufacture sets.
    Hot can be 102 and not 120 degrees.

    So a tankless systems might not work well (if at all) with HE washers.

  • smith02_gw
    9 years ago

    All good posts and accurate. Tankless water heaters only run when they sense a draw and then turn on to heat the water. If your washer pulses water (runs for 5-10 seconds then stops) to conserve water, then mrb627 and georgect are correct and spot on. You will never get hot water to the washer. Most forget that thermal efficiency of the pipes removes much of the initial heat of the water. If you don't believe me, run a shower until the water is hot, stop for 3-4 minutes then shower. Your water will be much hotter.

    We just moved into a new home and had the builder downgrade us to a tank gas fired water heater (with money coming back to us). I installed a heater blanket and insulated the hot water pipes. Brought it up to a 0.72 efficiency for the tech people on this forum.The water to the washer is hot and consistent although I must admit we run the washer after a shower or doing dishes.

    Neighbors have the tankless and most are not happy. They get hot water but only after running the water awhile. Doesn't save water either as they run more water to get hot water (didn't make sense to me when I first heard this but now it does).

    What I haven't considered and you may is putting a 10 gallon tank hot water heater in series with the washer and let the tankless feed the 10 gallon tank with hot water. That way, you will get hot water as you can set the tank water temperature higher as it's only for the washer. I know it sound stupid but what's the Internet for.

  • socks
    9 years ago

    LARemodel, we have a tankless water heater and are considering getting an HE machine, so I'm glad to read this.Thanks for asking the question.

    Another reason to get a tank water heater is because that will be your emergency water in case we lose our water because of a natural disaster like an earthquake. We now keep gallon bottles of water in the garage (which is a nuisance).

  • designergrey
    9 years ago

    I like our tankless water heater. We have a new LG washer and I think it works for us because the water heater is right next to the washer so the run is extremely short. The hot water to the laundry sink is extremely quick as well. So you might want to consider how long the hot water has to travel. It takes a lot longer to get hot water at other points in the house.

  • AvatarWalt
    9 years ago

    One solution would be to get a washer with an internal water heater. I'm curious, however, how a tankless heater would be worse than a tank that's a long run away from the washer. If the washer uses only a minimal amount of water, and spritzes it little by little to boot, it seems like the majority of the water coming in wouldn't be hot-from-the-tank anyway. Or am I missing something?

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    SL Constructon
    3 years ago

    Resurrecting a really old thread, but I never even thought twice about this and bought the latest LG washing machine. I have an on-demand water heater. It's really weird how these washers (or just this one?) work. Like everyone says, the water valve opens for a couple of seconds, then closes. Then the washer churns a little, then a little more water. It's impossible to believe that the on demand starts and fires in those measly 2 seconds, so I think a recirculating system would be in order here. Kind of negates the usefulness of an on demand. Instead of heating a tank full of water, I'll be keeping all the crawlspace hot water pipes under the house hot. Probably better to have a properly insulated tank.


    I wish there were settings on the washer to have it run a little more logically. It makes no sense (at least to me) how it works now.

  • dadoes
    3 years ago

    LG is the worst for short-pulsing the water during fill. Some other brands don't do that so much. A tankless water heater can't function that way. You may have to resort to running hot water (at a slow rate) at a faucet (kitchen sink) while the washer fills so as to keep the tankless unit activated.

  • AvatarWalt
    3 years ago

    Rather than an always-on recirculation, there are timed options so at least it wouldn't run at night, or, better yet (at least for some circumstances), you can get a recirculation button and press it a minute before you want hot water in the pipes.