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"I do love the clean I get from phosphated detergent"

Phosphates were removed from German detergents some 30 years ago. Only dishwasher detergents still have them here. That being said, Persil is a very good cleaner esp. for whites in warm to hot water. Maybe here's a Miele store somewhere near you and they might have a small size for you to try out(?)

Alex

Thanks for the response. :) I knew Persil didn't have phosphates in it, which is one of the main reasons I was asking about it compared to the Mexican version of Ariel, which does contain phosphates. There isn't a Miele store near here, I may bite the bullet and buy a 5 load box of Persil sometime to try before I make a major commitment.

izeve, you have an impressive stash! The Mexican version of Ariel doesn't seem to leave my clothes stiff. I just always like to try new things, and Persil seems to have a cult following.

I LOVE Persil, but at 5 times the price of Sears Ultra Plus HE, I just cant justify it. It works even better with some STPP added, but of course that drives the price even higher. I get quite adequate results from the Sears detergent These past 5 years..

If you have a 99 Cent Only Store near you, right now the FULL SIZE Mexican Persil are selling for $3.99 each. That's a deal because the US version goes for about $11.99. It smells and works the same.

Are you talking about Mexican Ariel? Its probably not the Ariel with phosphates.