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LG washer - sticky grey residue

Posted by twitgarden (My Page) on
Tue, May 12, 09 at 19:47

Hello,

LG front loader, 1st generation. Nature Clean powder, no other additives or softeners.

A while ago i started getting sticky grey residue nuggets on whites. (Hot wash, warm rinse) I suspected bad rinse due to cold water being way too cold in winter. I also suspected the detergent "Nature Clean". I also noticed residue on the stainless steel drum. I tried to clean the machine with hot water empty washing, vinegar, sodium bicarbonate and some of it came off but not exactly shiny clean. Also noticed that the inside of drum (between drum and machine) also had more residue.

After further research I found out that Sodium Carbonate (Washing Soda) should do the trick. Indeed after 2-3 washes with washing soda the machine is super clean. I looked a bit on the inside and looks like new. I had also considered 'Smelly Washer' but I found out its mostly Citric Acid, not exactly a cleaner degreaser like Sodium Carbonate. European Washing Machine cleaning products seem to be Sodium Carbonate based. My machine is clean now, should be a while, before it should start having deposits again. Right.

My research suggested that 1. I use too much detergent. 2. Machine needs periodical cleaning. 3. Water is indeed too cold and what is supposed to be a warm rinse is not so warm. Note that the machine sprays tap cold water on spin cycle which is good if the water were not near freezing.

Now comes spring, so water is not so cold. Machine is super clean. Put a small load of whites, some t-shirts and linen. To my uttermost surprise, drum is again coated in a thick grey sticky substance. My water is normal (not hard or soft) and I used 2-3 tablespoons of detergent. But given the machine was clean to start, it's quite something that the effect appeared immediately contrary to suspected accumulation of residue over many washes....

Now is it a bad batch of Nature Clean? or the only other element are my t-shirts made in china purchased for $1 each. Maybe the chineese t-shirts are causing the residue
Any ideas???

Thanks,


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

I always ran into a problem using powdered detergents in the washer. I would stick to the Liquid HE kind. I have not had a problem since using liquid only (and you only need a little so it should last and is also "organic or green". They do have a product called "Clean Washer" that's a tablet you are suppose to use at least once a month.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

Use Tide HE powder... just half the suggested amount and your problems will be over. It's not cheap but you get what you pay for. Makes no sense to have an expensive washer and get bad results from using ineffective detergent.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

Thanks for the suggestions, but on these forums, a lot of people praise more natural detergents, and I don't like the idea of residue left on my clothes after the wash such as Optical Brighteners, Enzymes and Scents.

I'll have to give Tide HE a try, but i'll run one more wash without the 'mystery t-shirts' to realy nail down the detergent as the cause. Nature Clean has a simple list of ingrediants, and i don't really see exaclty what is the grey sticky gunk left on the drum, uness this batch of detergent is particulary 'defective'. Scented detergents inevitably leave some oily residue on clothes, how else would they smell nice?


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RE: LG washer- sticky grey residue

You could also try Cheer Free powder, which is not HE but people here report using it in FL without problems. It wouldn't have the scent or brighteners but would still have the enzymes.


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Nature Clean - avoid at all cost !

Now i'm having problems getting rid of the grey sticky stuff on my washer's drum. Maybe it's the Carboxymethyl cellulose used in Nature Clean to lower the requirement for washing Soda, hence cut costs. I really don't see what else can the grey residue be. Or maybe the chineese suppliers' quality control is out of order.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

Looks like some ingerdients of Nature Clean react with the Sodium Carbonate to for the grey deposits. Last time i buy Canadian products. How can a company offer such a mistake to the public. Simple incompetence.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

Sounds like the 'green' turned everything 'grey'.

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)

I am truly sorry for your bad experience. I'm not convinced that 'green' products are necessarily better, for a number of reasons. Sometimes they are, sometimes not.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

> Nature Clean has a simple list of ingrediants

simple isn't always better (or safer)

> I don't like the idea of residue left on my clothes after the wash such as Optical Brighteners, Enzymes and Scents.
> Scented detergents inevitably leave some oily residue on clothes, how else would they smell nice?

Just because you don't smell anything with your detergent doesn't mean it's not leaving any residue ...


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

For the gunk in the machine try to use powder cascade in washload of cotton whites. Use the hottest setting available.Extra rinse.
Switch detergents.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

I have had this same problem while doing laundry yesterday. I searched the internet and came to this page. I was using a liquid detergent, Woolite for dark clothes and washed a Land's End winter housecoat. So the detergent I used was liquid, not powder, I used cold wash and rinse cycles, and the clothing was not a cheap $1.00 T-shirt. The only commonality is the sticky mess. So my conclusion is that I guess we just need to clean the inside of our washer from time to time. I will try those "Clean Washer" tablets someone discussed above.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

I use Nature Clean in warm\cold in the winter (cold\cold for summer) and have never had this problem. I live in the city so water is pretty soft. I do use a booster - Nature Clean's Oxy Stain remover or Borax. Product is unscented so you know it isn't masking smells with scent. Very low sudsing and also rinses out well. Might not be the right detergent for your water or machine but it works great form me with mine.


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RE: LG washer - sticky grey residue

Unless you are drawing your water from a well, it's likely that your water comes from several sources and the quality changes depending on the time of year. White/grey residue on washer parts and similar debris in your clothing points to hardness minerals precipitating out of solution. It's possible that your detergent is reacting badly to any changes in your water chemistry, and if your chemistry changes throughout the year that would explain why you are seeing it sometimes, but not all the time.

I recommend you switch to a liquid detergent and see if it gets better. Citric acid is a fantastic non-precipitating water softener that is also used to clean hard water build-up. I would try removing the buildup using citric acid and switch to a commercial detergent to see if the situation improves.


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