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Speed Queen Washing Machine

Posted by suej41 (My Page) on
Sun, May 15, 11 at 15:29

I have one of the infamous Kenmore Elite Oasis top loaders that continually gives the dreaded F1 display. I finally got a technician to look at it (knowing what he was going to say even before he told me.)

I was told I needed a new computer board. (Surprise, surprise) The cost of that was $237 plus labor of over $200. I thanked him kindly and sent him on his way.

I've had this washer since 1/07 and now I'm ready to throw it out the door.

I've been researching different brands and the one that keeps popping up is the Speed Queen brand. I would like to have your thoughts, pros, cons, if you have one what model it is, etc.

Thanks,

Sue


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You can likely change the board yourself (or with the assistance of a handy friend or family member) and save the labor. It should be a simple matter of opening the control panel and swapping the old board for the new. Typically not difficult, a few screws, the board may anchor in place with a few tabs, match the wiring plugs from old to new. Replacement parts often also include an instruction sheet.

The part can be bought online via SearsPartsDirect.com (and possibly other sources), and the price may be less than $237. I can't check into it without the model number (the FULL model number from the tag on the machine, in the format of xxx.xxxxxxxx).

If you throw the machine out, I'd catch and fix it if I was there, LOL.


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I realize the part can be bought elsewhere, and my husband could replace it, but it has other "issues" as well. It leaks, twists the clothes terribly, skips cycles, etc.


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I just ordered my first Speed Queen washer and dryer, model 432 washer and ADG3LR dryer. Water temp control, as well as use of enough water to get clothes clean was key in my decision to stay with the old fashioned top load washer...I knew nothing about Speed Queen until I began reading other members' recommendations, and it was a great help to read about other people's experiences with the new machines the major brands are now selling.I couldn't have been so well informed if you all hadn't taken the time to write in, and I just want to say ,"Thanks".


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I think the word of mouth secret is out. Speed Queen's simplified electronics (lack of a fancy, potential troublesome, computer board) + commercial quality in home usage was the deciding factor in my purchase.

I bought the Speed Queen front loader + matching dryer 6 months ago. I should be still running this pair 10 years from now. A 45 minute wash cycle (tops) and I am done. Our clothes come out as clean as you would want since; A) the washer does not skimp on water like many others and B) the front loader has a true horizontal axis, not a tilted axis drum.

Enjoy your purchase stayhomemom.


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"Water temp control...."

Need to clarify that. Every machine available has "water temp control".

Measure your actual wash cycle temperatures in the machine. Then come back and tell us what they actually are. You don't even have the machine yet and you've already turned into a parrot.

You say "thanks" before you have any personal experience at all. Interesting. I hope the machine meets every one of your expectations. But right now you don't know anything about it except what others have told you.


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"You don't even have the machine yet and you've already turned into a parrot."

"You say "thanks" before you have any personal experience at all. Interesting"

"But right now you don't know anything about it except what others have told you."

Asolo, that's a pretty harsh response to someone who made a different choice than you and is merely thanking others for providing information. It's hugely ironic you'd choose the term parroting, given the huge fan bases of certain European washers in this forum.


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Yeah, probably too strong. Mea Culpa.


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Saw a pair of hardly used Whirlpool Duets w/pedestals at a family run thrift shop today for $150 each. They were in excellent condition and a steal at that price except that the washer was needing to be fixed.
You will like your new Speed Queen washer.


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Thanks for the defense "knot2fast"....Yes, all I was doing was thanking people for taking the time to post, as it provides education for those of us who research what we are spending hard earned money on. ...Have to feel sorry for people like "asolo" , for getting so angry at my post..???? My Speed Queens are being installed as I write this, and I will be posting my reviews....I would love to pay forward the info that I found so helpful in making me purchase decision!!!


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stayhomemom - Your statement that your top loader will use enough water to get clothes clean is errenous. Front loaders clean as well and generally better and do it using less water. I live in the Great Lakes region. Fresh water is plentiful and generally usable straight from a well. Water conservation is not a concern. I haven't run across a single friend or neighbor who would ever consider going back to a top loader. To each their own but please be realistic.


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I have to chime in and say that although I just bought a new LG front loader for about $1,000 less than a Speed Queen FL, I did look at a Speed Queen top loader in a showroom and was very impressed with the build quality and the mechanical simplicity of the machine. Not much plastic that I could see. I told my wife if the LG did not work out, I was definitely going to get a Speed Queen front loader to replace it. Not flashy at all, but by all accounts they should last a very long time with basic maintenance.

Another telling sign of Speed Queen quality is that the shipping weight of their FL washer is 260 lbs while the LG was just over 150 lbs for similar capacity.


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"Have to feel sorry for people like "asolo" ..."

Nope. Just get the machine, use it, measure the temps, and then come back and tell us about your actual results from EXPERIENCE....as opposed to your enthusiasm from what someone else has written and you've read. Is that too much to ask? Jeez!


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Anyone know about vibration issues with Speed Queen washers? I saw a youtube of a SQ in action and those 1000 rpm's of spin made me think the jeans would open the FL door and just walk out dry!


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Anyone know about vibration issues with Speed Queen washers? I saw a youtube of a SQ in action and those 1000 rpm's of spin made me think the jeans would open the FL door and just walk out dry!


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There is a critical aspect of setting up a front load washer that I didn't even know about until recently. You must adjust the legs for even weight distribution while the washer is at full spin. My new LG setup guide emphasizes this. Otherwise, all sorts of bad things can and do happen. We had a Kenmore FL for 10 years that just blew up and I know that this critical adjustment was never done, although it seemed to spin okay all those years. It was sitting on concrete, however. Still, any FL washer is a precision machine and proper set up is critical.

I also understand that Speed Queen's do not have electronic damping, etc., and so anything out of whack can cause problems. I'm just getting the impression that Speed Queen washers are built very well but the end user must understand that they need attention to get the most out of them. A lot of people are "set and forget" consumers and I don't think a Speed Queen would be the best option for them.

I suspect most of the Youtube videos and unhappy customers are mostly a result of improper setup, unstable floors, or damage caused during delivery. I think it would be the rare washer that is truly defective if all delivery and setup instructions are followed to the letter.


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Had my top load washer and dryer installed and have done several loads of laundry so far....very pleased with my Speed Queens. My laundry area is off the kitchen, and I was pleasantly surprised at how quiet both the washer and dryer were...even in spin cycle (my machines are on tile). With regard to some of the feedback I rec. from other bloggers about my previous posts...all I can say is that I did a lot of reading on forums like this, as well as contacting Speed Queen customer support with questions. I have to say that Mr Matt Anderson from Speed Queen is great. He was always very quick to return an answer....I didn't get this service from the other major companies. Also, unlike the front loader, which locks once the machine starts to fill, I CAN access the tub in the top loader to see if the water temp is where I want it. If not, I can adjust my hot/cold water input so as to get the temp. I want. Same holds true with regard to water level. Now, this is just my preference, to have this kind of control. With regard to water levels and quality of wash...well, I have never owned a front loader. I have several close friends with front loaders, and I have been all over these forums to see if other people are happy with the front loaders that are out there (I value other's opinions based on their experiences, as I don't know everything!!) It seems to me that for many people, there is an issue of odor,more expensive detergents/a need to buy odor eliminating tub cleaners, longer wash times (to compensate for using less water). Speed Queen confirmed that the wash time in the front loader is longer than in the top loader, yet in all fairness,I do believe that their front load wash time is somewhat less as compared to other brands....something to consider if you are pressed for time and have mult. loads to do . So for all of you who have been so quick to attack my posts......all I can say is that I appreciate the input of experience and opinion from the forum members who took the time to post...I knew nothing about Front Loaders and the difference between them and the traditional top loaders I grew up with. Their input helped me understand the products on the market, and helped me make an informed decision based on my needs. We are all entitled to our own opinions, but we can all learn from someone else's experience. If there is anyone out there who gets any help from my posts, then, I am glad. I would Happily recommend Speed Queen....and I am even happier that it's made in the USA!!!!! Whatever machines you all ultimately choose, I wish you well!


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My Speed Queen topload washer is quiet, too, unlike the 6 year old Kenmores I sold.


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elbits, what is the rpm's on your SQ toploader? I'm considering a FL with steady 1000 rpm and quiet is rather important to me. Not sure it will be so. thanx.


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Sparkling, I couldn't tell you but I have the AWN412. I didn't need the extra rinse or 20 different cycles.


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I think it's 720 rpm on the top loaders. Lots of Speed Queen videos on YouTube.

Alex


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You have any thoughts or comments on Speed Queen whirlpool_trainee?

I wish to thank you for your generosity on this forum. You have aided me as I'm sure others in our quest for laundry washers and dryers. My criteria are a) reliability and durability b) no bells and whistles just the basics please and c) good warranty. I checked out a Speed Queen washer and dry today, listened to those 1000 rpm, and liked what I saw and heard. No machine is perfect is a given.


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Whirlpool Trainee is correct about the RPM's, and about going onto You Tube to see them in action. Speed Queen will demonstrate a top loader in action, with the entire tub/motor exposed for you to see.....only bet 6 and 9 moving parts, no plastic. I've had my 432 washer and gas dryer for a week now, and am very satisfied...I too wanted simplicity and durability, without anything digital. The warranty is probably the best out there too. It was a pleasure not have a salesman falling all over himself trying to sell me an extended warranty. Best of luck!!!!


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Thanks stayhomemom. Any comment on SQ sound level and vibration since you have used them? That is important to me. I have looked on youtube. Thanks.


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Hi sparkling Water...We recently did a major kitchen renovation, and took a large closet from an adjoining room to use as a laundry area on the ground floor. I was concerned about water damage if the machine ever leaked, and so my plumber built a pan for the machines to sit in ( a drain in the center of the area to remove any water spills, which was then surrounded by that heavy waterproof rubber tarp, which was then covered with the same sand/cement used in the kitchen floor for the radiant heat. Porcelain tile was then set on the cement floor and all around the bottom of the walls and lip in front of the machines so as to contain any water.My washer and dryer are side by side on the tiled floor with space all around them. They have not moved an inch.As far as sound, my two machines are on the same wall where my kitchen table is...we had the contractor place insulation on that wall, but the doors are always open. Yes, I can hear the machines if in my kitchen, but it's nothing more than a low hum. The hood over my Wolf is by far louder, and more annoying if we are eating or on the phone. From my living room and dining room, I can't hear the machines at all...not even the spin cycle.Hope this helps.


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Yes, thank you stayhomemom. Your comments do help. Enjoy your family and new kitchen and laundry too. Sounds as you were very thoughtful. :)


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I've recently purchased the top of the line Speed Queen top load washer and dryer when we moved in our new house we built. They are wonderful! I will never, ever, go back to a front load machine (had two since 1997).

The Speed Queen washes clothes quickly, the water is actually hot (if that is what I choose), I can choose water level, temperature, etc. myself, and my laundry is now finally actually fresh and clean now...with NO soap residue,in a fraction of the time.

I can fit as much laundry into this machoine as my front load Whirlpools, and they spin just as dry.

There are many ways to conserve water these days...I wouldn't dream of wasting water on a lawn. I save electricity by hanging my wash on the line when the weather is good. However, when I buy an appliance that is supposed to actually clean things, it does take some water to do so.

They are also made in the U.S.A. which is important to me. I've learned to do without many items simply because they are made overseas.

If I ever get wind that Speed Queen top load washers will someday "go away" I will buy enough of them to get me through the rest of my life. Bells and whistles do not impress me. A machine doing what it's supposed to do, does.


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To Sandy808.....I loved your post, because it's as if you were thinking my exact thought on all the issues you wrote about. I got reamed by others when I commented on water temp control, so "Thank you" for reiterating that. I should post the picture of the bold print on the cartons our machines come in that say Proudly Made in The USA....I too promote buying our own products.....and Speed Queen is proving itself to be a quality product in my book so far!!! I too love having control over the amount of water I need to use, as well as temp control. My brother knows someone who is familiar with Speed Queen, and said he was told that within 10 yrs or so our Government will not allow any new top loader production....because of the water. .....so sad what is happening in this country! Best of luck to you with your Speed Queens!


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It seems to me that for many people, there is an issue of odor,more expensive detergents/a need to buy odor eliminating tub cleaners, longer wash times (to compensate for using less water).

stayhomemom, I am very glad that you have found a washer which meets your needs and that it's working well for you. :)

I did want to point out, HE detergent is no more expensive than regular detergent. In my area, it's actually often less expensive because there is such consumer demand for it, stores are stocking more varieties, and regularly (weekly) have it on sale.

I have an HE toploader (Maytag Bravos) and love it. It does everything I need, very well. It hasn't had some issues which are common to some front loaders.

Here's hoping you enjoy your SQ's as much as I've enjoyed my Bravos. :)


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My old tank of a stackable (Maytag) has miraculously kept on chugging along, but if anyone here has bought a Front Loading SQ (I was looking at the ATE50 FL model), please let us know your experience. Thank you.


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Polie, I looked at the SQ washer/dryer the other day. In fact, the appliance store plugged it in for me so I could check the spin @ 1000 rpm. Low/muffled/smooth spin noise is very important to me. Once it got revved up to full spin it settled down. I'm still looking though. My old Maytag Neptune stackable still keeps chugging too. Are you looking at current Maytag stackables?


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Hi mara 2008....I'm glad you are enjoying you Bravos machines...I wish the HE detergents were cheaper or the same price as regular detergents. Not sure where you live, but here in Long Island, NY....it seems that if something is labeled "healthy", "energy efficient / green" it costs more....at wits end!!! Best of luck to you!!!!!


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stayhomemom, one of my colleagues has moved to your area and she has complained about the very thing you mentioned. She really misses the great prices we have here on HE detergents.

It seems that many (most?) people here are using HE washers these days, as the HE detergents are selling like hotcakes. The non-HE detergent section seems to shrink by the week, and they're rarely on sale anymore, unlike the HE varieties.

I find the best prices on HE detergents at my favorite warehouse store and (strangely enough) drugstores like CVS, but grocery stores have really jumped into the fray too, putting at least one HE brand on sale each week (sometimes more).


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After much research, I purchased a Speed Queen ATE50 FL stackable washer/dryer in late May. It replaced a 12 year old stackable Maytag Neptune 2000 model which finally gave up its bearings. In researching stackable washer dryers, I found better brand stackable units have generally gotten bigger over the last decade, particularly in depth (due to bubble or other front windows). I wanted durability, simplicity, performance and a good warranty in a stackable, hence I was drawn to Speed Queen.

Thee ATE50 is performing like a champ. Installed to specifications with a right short vent to outside, it is a pleasure to run. I've done three to four loads a week since purchase and pretty much had its workings down within two weeks. It washes quickly and well and the clothes are not all balled in either washer or dryer up as with the Neptune, and are with minimal wrinkles and efficiently dried.

I have found this unit to adjust for load imbalance automatically: it doesn't rev up to higher rpm until on lower rpm it tumbles the clothes to a more balanced position. Bulky items like comforters are done on the bulky setting. I've only done a moderate weight queen comforter and no other item was needed for proper balancing: it came out spun out enough to go right into the dryer. Because of the above, vibration has not been a problem (it readjusts) nor has any walking occurred on my solid wood floor.

I hope this helps someone contemplating this washer/dryer maker. The SQ reminds me of my old 2000 Maytag, only better. The stainless interiors are incredibly smooth, the white finish is well done, and the windowed doors are heavy and stay shut and open. The electronic panel for the washer is on the front bottom behind a removal access panel.

Good luck with your W/D decisions everyone.

Here is a link that might be useful: Link:


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SparklingWater,
We/I told you that you would like it. I'd bet this Speed Queen lasts longer than your 12 year old Maytag.

After purchasing my front load Speed Queen pair last year, I realized they were a lot heavier (100 + lbs) than my previous front load washer pair. I found out that it had a more heavy duty suspension, plus a lot more stainless steel internally.

We especially like the fact that a load of clothes washes in under 45 minutes. My washer does not waste a lot of time deciding when and how to balance loads, prior to the spin cycle.


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Thanks best, yes you did and were correct.

It took me a while to pull the trigger because I'm slightly OTT on specs and installation thus pulled out the old stacked Neptune still attached (minus electric) and measured and measured until I was certain it would work. This after driving to the appliance center to listen and observe the spin cycle of their SQ. It doesn't take long for the ATE50 to proceed into spin either, just a two to three minutes if it senses auto-adjust is needed based on load. Normally it just moves right into spin.

Thanks again for your encouragement to buy: solid decision.


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We own several top load SQs and they are used all day 5 days a week and sporadically on weekends in our business. This has been for 4-5 years, or maybe more, for the oldest one. Believe me, they are not babied. No problems at all.


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My Maytag washer has to be replaced . I got it in the early 1990s. I want a top loader. Am seriously considering the SQ 412 due to Made in the USA, no electronics to break, etc. However, I am wondering if people have found they are as easy on the clothes (meaning that clothes are treated as delicately as ones without agitators. I've read many compliments about Speed Queen's durability, cleanliness of clothes, but human in this house and want my clothes to last a long time. Most reviews I've read have been written by men who say the dirty clothes get clean and it's made to last. Anyone have any comments on how the machine treats their clothing? Also, I'd like to hear from the lady who has the maytag bravo. I have found only one store that carries speed queen and other brands. He suggested SQ first, then Maytag Bravo (due to warrantee- but he does not carry it) then whirlpool cabrio (last becasuse it does not have the same warranty) The reason he suggested ones he does not carry is because his store is too far, so he would not deliver to me anywya, he was being totally honest. He said SQ is the best, but one without an agitator might be more gentle. I'm so confused. Please help.


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The SQ should wash very much like the Maytag. I have a relative that has one and she has never mentioned anything about damaged clothes. She likes hers a lot and it is about 4-5 years old and no problems.

On the TL HE models, have another friend that just bought a new set of TL Samsung. She is very pleased with them and she went from a 30 year old Maytag--never had a repair--to the Samsungs. Their house burned was the only reason she got the new ones.

If you want something like you are use to, then I would go SQ.


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Thanks, Sparky823. I don't mind getting used to something new. But I'd like something that is very gentle on the clothing- maybe better than the Maytag. The Maytag was like all the other washers I've had in that regard. but I wonder if the new ones without agitators are more gentle? The maytag 412 I saw had a strange looking agitator that looked like it might be more rough. It was not as smooth i shape. but also I wondered if no agitator would be better. On the other hand I know the SQ is more long lasting- and better warranty. But taking good care of my clothes is very important.


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@missylin personally I think the new HE top loader would be not as gentle...why...because they don't use enough water.

The way the new HE top loaders work is with minimal water and the wash plate flexes and rubs the clothes together to get clothes clean. Watch them on Youtube. The bottom bunch of clothes gets a beating while the top of the laundry barely gets wet and just sits there.

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missylin, we have the Speed Queen AWN 432 top loader and it has been far gentler on our clothes than either of the HE top loaders we had before. The HE machines resulted in tangled, knotted clothes and frayed edges on towels; we don't have this problem with the Speed Queen.


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Thank you oasis owner. Would this also be true for the 412? That is the most I can afford is the 412- which I guess is their simplest model. Thank you so much for this info.


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ANOTHER thing I'm worried about is in 3 years I was told all washers will have to meet certain guidelines. The SQ dealer in town told me he does not know if they will continue making SQs or only front loading SQs or what. but they will no longer be able to make them as they are now. If only HE detergent is available- or most everyone uses it, the old fashioned kind will become very expensive- or we'll have to mkae our own. ??


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I believe the 412 washes the same as mine; the only difference is the extra rinse button. I use a detergent (Country Save) in mine that has a line on the scoop for HE washers and a line for regular washers. I have also used Ecos and Seventh Generation - you just use more in a traditional top loader than you would in an HE machine. It does not matter if it says HE on the label.


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Elbits, I see you have the 412. I am thinking of getting that one, but it does not have the fabric selector. When I called they said that it would be more gentle when washing permanent press if using the fabric selector. If you wash on gentle/delicate things will be wetter I think than washing on permanent press for permanent press. I'm not sure which one to get now. How does your 412 do with wear on your clothing. I have mainly somewhat delicate or truly delegate clothing. thanks.


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oasisowner: Does your have the fabric selector? The 412 is the least expensive SQ (though not by any means inexpensive). It it an top loader and no fabric selector and extra rinse. It does not use HE. ARe you saying you can use HE detergent in a non-HE but you use more? Thanks so much. I am so stressed out not knowing whether to get SQ and if so which one.I was going to get the 412 as the others are so expensive, but now I'm worried about gentleness on my clothes. If it does not treat my clothes well, it does not matter if it lasts the rest of my life. I am a single woman, and do not have a lot of filthy stuff. Most of my stuff is light weight clothing or delicate or towels.


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Best100 which speed queen do you have? How does it treat your delicates and does it treat your clothing gently? thanks


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Best100 which speed queen do you have? How does it treat your delicates and does it treat your clothing gently? thanks


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Sandy808, and others: which speed queen do you have? is it gentle on your clothing? I'm trying to decide if SQs are gentle enough on clothing and if getting one of the more expensive ones with the fabric selector is important. I called sQ and they said with a fabric selector it will be more gentle to clothing without having to put it on gentle/delicate if it is not really a delicate fabric. Things are not spun as dry as other machines I read on the SQ put on delicate. I'm not sure which one to get . Money is a factor- but if I get one and it does not take good care o fmy clothing, then it's a bad investment, even if it lasts a long time. I am so very stressed out with choosing a washer.


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There is also(or was) a model below the 412 that is a single speed model.

The only difference with the fabric selector is you can make the machine wash/spin slow even on the Normal Cycle. With the 412 you will get regular wash/fast spin on Normal and gentle wash/slow spin on the delicate cycle. I believe the Perm Press is regular wash/slow spin so your clothes will be just as damp spinning on Perm Press as they will on Delicate. I think you are worrying for nothing. If you have something that is really delicate put it inside a mesh wash bag and use a little extra water for the load. If the clothes are too wet after the slow cycle, you can always turn it to Normal and do a short-fast spin. You will enjoy the SQ and they are also the best machine at handling unbalanced loads--no walking, banging or shaking. For the difference in the money I would go with the 412. HE detergent will work too, just less suds to rinse out.


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Thanks, Sparky823. If it is spinning slowly on the perma press cycle, how would that cycle be different than the gentle cycle? . I read that the 542 or whatever teh number is about $100 more. You think it's not worth the extra money then. Do you have the 412? Thanks so very much. This is a big decision and i want to make the right one. My Maytag lasted a long time, but wonder what I could do in the way of a new washer to help my clothes stay nice longer. So I was wondering if the fabric selector or whatever would help with that. Thank you so much.


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Missylin,
We own the consumer version of the commercial front load washer. I can't comment on the Speed Queen top loader. There have been no problems with delicate clothes or the way it handles them. A lot of my wife's clothes are washed on the delicate setting.

We owned a Sears front loader before this one. Like most other front loaders, the drum is angled so that most of the water is in the drum's back, and very little water is at the doorway. Like a lot of other front load washers, clothes came out in knots and twisted (especially mens pants legs). On this Speed Queen front loader the drum is a true horizontal axis. The water level is evenly distributed. We have not had the same problem at all. I did a poor job of explaining it, but I hope this makes a little bit of sense.

In addition, there are links on the internet explaining how to raise the water level used on Speed Queen front loaders. When I get pass the 3 year/ 5 year warranty, I may do this as well. With the government forcing manufacturers to use less and less water, this does not bode well for folks who really want to get dirty/smelly clothes clean in the future. I'll get off my soapbox now, and shut up.


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The difference in Perm/Press and Delicate/Gentle is on Perm Press it will agitate fast/spin slow. Delicate will agitate slow/spin slow.

I wouldn't pay the difference because they are the same machine plus the 542 has the extra rinse and speed switch. For me, if I want Normal then I will put it on Normal. Then if I need Delicate I will put it on the Delicate cycle. With the speed switch you could use the Normal cycle but put the switch on Delicate for slow agitate spin, but you can get this on the 412 by just using the Delicate cycle. The only thing I see there is if you wanted to wash something for maybe 10 minutes on slow and Delicate only gives you maybe 6 minutes, then you could use the Normal cycle with Delicate on the speed switch to get slow wash but more wash time. To me not worth the extra money, but then I would be washing 90% of the time on the Normal cycle.
I think you are worrying way to much over clothes damage with this washer. If you think in the long run you will feel better by getting the 542 by all means get it. If not, years down the road you will always wish you had. Been there-done that on other things. I will say that I have also over spent before to get the better "whatever" I was buying at the time, only to find it was no better than the middle of the road one. Just a choice you have to make that you will feel most comfortable with.

I do not have a SQ, but have relatives who do and they really like theirs. If I had to buy a new Top Load washer it would be a SQ.


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Thank you so much, Sparky823. You gave me a lot to think about. Can you explain what agitate fast and spin slow means? I don't know the difference I guess. Thanks for your advice. I'm going to look at the photo on the website of the dials to see if I can figure this out. Ok, maybe I am misunderstanding. there is no speed switch on the 412. Here is a photo of the dials. http://www.speedqueen.com/home/en-us/products/product.aspx?id=344 Can you explain again how I would wash more time on delicate/handwash? I have overbought before, too and I don't want to do that, either. Thanks again for your help.


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When I said agitate fast/spin slow for the Perm/Press cycle it just means it will wash at the normal wash speed, but then spin at the slow speed (to get the water out).Using a slow spin keeps Perm/Press clothes from wrinkling so much. The wash time on the Delicate cycle will be either 9 or 6 minutes--you decide how long you want it to wash--this is for the 412. On the 542 you can get up to 15 min wash time by using the Normal cycle and set the Fabric switch to Delicate, but if you really have Delicate things you wouldnt want them to wash 15 min. For me 9 min is plenty of time for those. Delicate will also spin slow to help keep clothes from wrinkling.


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Just picked up and started using our new SQ432, and am very impressed. There is/was a slight snag, and would like to know if anyone else has had a similar issue. After about 4 loads of laundry, the machine would fill, but not agitate. No amount of changing the timer knob to different positions would help. It would spin out the water however. When the clean cycle should have started, it would buzz/hum, until I believe the thermal would cut out for a few minutes. Unplugged, and now a day later, there are no issues. Not sure if we have a BOB (Bad Out Of Box) unit/timer or not. Unit works flawlessly beyond that. Not sure if we should return, or call for 3/3 free service.


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I'd definitely call your dealer as well as Speed Queen itself. I'm a fellow front load owner. Speed Queen technical could be made aware and offer their take, as well as SQ customer service noting on your record for warranty reasons. I'd be running more loads to see if this problem repeats too. That is not right. Good luck.


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I bought a Speed Queen top loader several months ago and have been very pleased. Solidly built.


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I bought a Speed Queen TL 542 several months ago and love it.
However, I have noticed that during the rinse cycle the time it agitates is very short. Seems like it hardly sloshes the clothes around, pauses for quite some time and then goes into the final spin. I often use the extra rinse and that rinse agitation runs longer. Anyone notice this?


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Debcz...the rinse cycle is only about 3 minutes long on your machine. I know as I have one too


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I have the top of the line Speed Queen toploader that I got last year. does that only rinse 3 minutes? Do I need extra rinse? My laundry room is at the end of my patio, so I don't hear my washer at all. BTW, I bought my washer from an online company that had good reviews online. (Angie's list helped me find this online review site) . They were much, much less than the local company. Unfortunately the only one "local company, the one in the next town delivered to my area .But their cost was over 150 higher than the next two nearest stores which said it was too far to deliver. One store 45 minutes away would have charged too much for delivery, although their price was 150 cheaper. The online company did not charge for delivery and their was no tax. They did not install for free, but I found an appliance repair guy who installed it for $45. Just a word to those who find maybe their local speed queen place to be high.. Check around. It is hard to find Speed Queen. I told the local guy I would much prefer to buy local. He would only budge 20 dollars. Any specifics anyone has to make my speed queen do it's best and be gentle on my clothes I'd love to hear.


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Good to see a dependable top loader still made. The reason I purchased my original Neptunes in 2000 was the push button control panel. I chuckled at friends who purchased the electronic digital control panel models knowing how dependable my old maytag top loaders were with push button control panels.
Brother was I ever fooled by appearance. That machine had 2 control boards inside and the push buttons were just switches to those boards.
In this world where you cant buy a furnace without an expensive control board, or a car without MANY control boards, or just about any appliance without control boards, it is good to know that I can recommend a simplified machine for those who dont want to have to worry about high priced self service to what should be a very simplistic machine that has the same basic design for decades.
Lets just hope Speed Queen isnt taken over by the greedy one day and they dont become radically "modernized" by an out of control EPA.


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Gates1 thanks for the info. When you say your rinse cycle lasts 3 minutes, does that include the agitation and spin time of the rinse cycle? What I worry about is the agitation time, seems like it's on 20 seconds or so, then it pauses maybe a minute (or more) and spins out the rinse water. Perhaps that's all it needs, it is less wear and tear on the clothes!


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Mine agitates for 3 minutes in rinse and then spins the clothes


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Just purchased a Speed Queen AWN 542 and ADG3LR Dryer. WOW we are in love with these. Great machines, built to last and got rid of our 8 year old front loaders.

MADE IN USA


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Another satisfied Speed Queen customer here also. Bought the washer in march. Model AWN 432 and gas dryer model ADG4BR last month. Both do their jobs very well and quickly too. Can't beat the warranty either. MADE IN USA!!!
Just hope like another poster stated, that Speed Queen doesn't get ruined by an way out of control EPA. Let the buying public have a choice in how much water and hot water their washers use. Were paying for it after all.


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"Let the buying public have a choice in how much water and hot water their washers use. Were paying for it after all."

- It has nothing to do with if you can afford it or not, nothing to do with EPA, all of us need to conserve water and energy, since resource is not unlimited.

MADE IN USA

- I only buy GOOD products that are Made in USA. Just put a label "MADE IN USA" on a product won't convince me to pay for it.


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AZ Mom, not sure what you are saying here. The Speed Queen is the best made washer. It is very solid construction, no electronics to break (I live in the lightning capital of the US- so electronics easily get messed up) and solidly make. The use of a little more water is a problem, but less water means your clothing rubs together making your clothing not last as long. However, you can choose to use less water in your speed queen by putting the water level lower on your dial.


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I did a lot of research when shopping for a washer and dryer to replace a bosch nexxt 500 series set. Yes it used less (too much so) water and yes, I loved the on board heater. I had to always add 3 or 4 gallons of water to the wash cycle because there was only wet clothes slapping in the drum.EVERY THING came out twisted and tangled, some with creases that the POS dryer would not remove, pills, and towels so harsh. And the only cycle that would not shake the house was perm. press-even using gentle spin.
I never had any mechanical problems with them for the 5 years I had them. They were replaced with the 542 and 4gbr Speed Queen set. I could not be happier, laundry is not a chore anymore. Some of the shops told me that a lot of people are returning to the old school washers. They are selling more and more SQ's and having trouble keeping them in stock.
The TL vs.FL debate could go on for ever, It's a matter of one's opinion I suppose. They are many ways to conserve energy and water. Let's just hope the gov. won't have us all washing with a cup of water and a warm temp. of 60*!


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Hi missylin, I am a Speed Queen fan. I did fair amount of research before being sold by the quality. I even wrote a few propaganda promoting the brand; it is a little out of my character.

I just do not agree with some people's "I can afford, therefore I could use whatever amount I like" kind of attitude. The limited nature resource should be shared by everyone, the rich are not entitled bigger share than the poor. Conserve nature resouce is our social responsibility, we don't need EPA to force it upon us.

We have Speed Queen dryer, but we only use it for large sized laundry. We take clothes out to dry, it is one way to conserve nature resource.

This post was edited by azmom on Tue, May 7, 13 at 1:43


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Sorry azmom, didn't mean to come off like a snob. Not financially well off by any stretch. Yes water is a continually renewable resource. All a matter of where it falls. If I want to use machines that use a little more water, who's business is that but mine ? This sudden "go green" craze is a little much though. If our water supply is in jeopardy, we have a lot bigger problems than worrying about how much water washers use.


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Sorry azmom, didn't mean to come off like a snob. Not financially well off by any stretch. Yes water is a continually renewable resource. All a matter of where it falls. If I want to use machines that use a little more water, who's business is that but mine ? This sudden "go green" craze is a little much though. If our water supply is in jeopardy, we have a lot bigger problems than worrying about how much water washers use.


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I also researched Speed Queen on many forums from users and the reviews were overwhelmingly positive
Also had an Maytag bravos prior to the speed queen. I Iiked the idea of less water at first, but the lack of truly hot water,lid locks, balancing issues and electronic control board issues was getting frustrating
The machine only lasted 2 years. I think if people really want to go green we need to buy things that can be reused or repaired. These old school washers were "green" before any of this disposable junk we have today.


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"Go green" is not a sudden craze. "Silent Spring" was published in 1962. I recall the subjects of "carbon foot print" and “Sustainability" had already been extensively discussed when I was in B-School that is more than a decade ago. Only in recent years, the concepts have entered public awareness.

We do have global water shortage that is a lot severer than most of us realize.

I totally agree with you on buying products that are well built and long lasting. The go green should start at design phase by using renewable materials and easily disintegrated components and assemblies.

May be someday I need to sit down to fully understand the tradeoff between less water usage vs extremely long wash cycles promoted by front load machines.

Even before then, the quality of Speed Queen, and the time savings are plenty good for us to choose Speed Queen.


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I like to think that water entering the city sewer where it flows back to a treatment location and put back into the reservoir is greener than using it to wash cars or water lawns. Water usage where it is not reclaimed is the real waste, in my opinion...

MRB


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There's the kicker: Water that goes to the waste treatment plant does NOT NOT NOT go back into a reservoir. It goes into a river, or the ground (for a community septic) or the sea.


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This is all really interesting. We have had a Fisher Paykel GWL15 washer for ~7 years, but it recently died and I tried replacing the rotary position sensor ($50) and then the unit apparently shorted out due to water on the pump (probably happened when I put it on its front to get to the sensor underneath) and now probably needs a new controller board--since the fuse is apparently soldered to the board. I've had it. I don't want to keep throwing money at this, and am drawn to the SQ's simplicity.

Regarding water efficiency, I realize the SQ will use more water than some of the other newer HE top-loaders, but if the machine lasts longer then what's the offset cost of landfill and materials versus water usage? FWIW here in southern california we are sensitive to water issues, and collect rain water for backyard landscape and gray water from upstairs shower for front yard landscape.

Though $800 delivered is a bit hard to swallow for the 412 when there are some other non-HE TL machines for about half the cost.


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The SQ is the last of the top loaders that work pretty much like Grannys Maytag, Norge, Kelvinator, or Whirlpool.
I have one.
Do a search on youtube for manhoot I have 11 videos uploaded of this fine machine in action.
SOAK CYCLE
SOAK, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SELECT 3:00
SOAK, FILL H,W,C 12:00
SPIN SELECT 3:00

PreWash
WASH, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SELECT 6:00
SPIN SELECT 3:00

REGULAR CYCLE
WASH, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SELECT 15:00
SPIN SELECT 3:00
SPIN & SPRAY C SELECT :25
SPIN SELECT 2:35
RINSE FILL & AGITATE W,C SELECT 3:00
SPIN SELECT 6:00

Extra Rinse
CYCLE END OR PAUSE FOR EXTRA RINSE 3:00
EXTRA
RINSE
RINSE, FILL & AGITATE W,C SELECT 3:00
SPIN SELECT 6:00

PERMANENT PRESS
WASH, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SELECT 9:00
SPIN MEDIUM 3:00
SPIN & SPRAY C MEDIUM :25
SPIN MEDIUM 2:35
RINSE FILL & AGITATE W,C SELECT 3:00
SPIN SELECT 6:00

DELICATE CYCLE
WASH, FILL & SOAK H,W,C 3:00
WASH, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C MEDIUM :25
WASH, FILL & SOAK H,W,C 2:35
WASH FILL & AGITATE H,W,C MEDIUM :25
WASH FILL & SOAK H,W,C 2:35
SPIN MEDIUM 3:00
SPIN & SPRAY C MEDIUM :25
SPIN MEDIUM 2:40
RINSE FILL & AGITATE C MEDIUM 3:00
SPIN MEDIUM 3:00
OFF/PAUSE CYCLE END OR PAUSE FOR EXTRA RINSE 3:00

DELICATE CYCLE
WASH, FILL & SOAK H,W,C 3:00
WASH, FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SLOW :25
WASH, FILL & SOAK H,W,C 2:35
WASH FILL & AGITATE H,W,C SLOW :25
WASH FILL & SOAK H,W,C 2:35
SPIN MEDIUM 3:00
SPIN & SPRAY C MEDIUM :25
SPIN MEDIUM 2:40
RINSE FILL & AGITATE C SLOW 3:00
SPIN MEDIUM 3:00

Here is a link that might be useful: Speed Queen in action


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Speed queen is built like a tank! When it if full of water, and something heavy...like blankets or comforter, it DOES NOT move, wiggle or wobble at all. Not even in the spin cycle. You can see and feel the difference in this washer, compared to other Non HE toploaders.


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Indeed gates1. Anyone who does not give this machine serious consideration is really missing out.


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After reading everything here I've pretty much decided on a SQ TL. My question is about wrinkling of the clothes. I normally line dry my clothes outside. The machine I have now wrinkles the clothes horribly making most line dried items need ironing. How wrinkled are your clothes coming out of the washer?


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I am strongly considering a tl speed queen. Is the std size large enough to wash a king comforter? I had a fl that I hated but I was able to fit a lot of clothes in. Not sure if the 3.3 cu is too small for bulky items?


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I've had a Speed Queen toploader for 3-4 years--no regrets getting it.

Pam, I wouldn't say that the machine 'horribly' wrinkles clothes. But then, most of my wash is tee-shirts and jeans. I line dry most everything that isn't a knit. A lot depends on the fabric--one set of sheets is decidedly more wrinkled coming out of the washer than any of the others.

Emily, you could probably squeeze a king comforter inside the SQ but I wouldn't. Especially if it's a really nice (expensive) one. Reason for saying that is that I did squeeze a very bulky comforter into my SQ but the rope edging took a beating. Never mind that the tag on the comforter said 'Dry Clean Only'. :-)

Big Plus for the SQ is that I have never had to make a flying trip to the basement to reposition an unbalanced load--unlike the old Whirlpool that the SQ replaced.


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I have decided to buy a SQ, after having a Maytag Neptune Front Loader for 11 years. A few questions for SQ owners: How does the Delicate/Hand wash cycle work on the 432 or 412? Are your clothes damaged, stretched out, etc? I do a lot of hand washing loads. I noticed the Hand wash cycle is a separate choice (from Delicate) on the 542. Was wondering if I should spend the extra money on that feature. Hoping I won't have to do so.

Thanks to all of you for your previous posts. I am new to this forum.....lots of worthwhile info shared.


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The delicate cycle on the 432 is very gentle with intermittent agitation. No need to worry.


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Your messages have been very helpful. The major concern I have about purchasing a SQ are: Will I be able to wash a Queen size comforter?; What condition (wrinkled?) do the clothes come out. Would greatly appreciate any feedback on these 2 items. Thanks in advance.


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ger1234, I have the tol top load Speed Queen and I can wash my queen size quilt in it. You can wash your comforter, depending on how thick it is. There is a reset feature on the loads size knob, that you just hold it down until you get the water level you want, if you need to add more. Just be careful that you don't add too much.
As for the wrinkles, my clothes come out less wrinkled than they did in the Bosch 500 I had. Pants and long sleeve garments do not come out all twisted and tangled like they did in the fl. In the fl I would get out a shirt and wind up pulling half the load out because they were all twisted together. I feel no, I know that my clothes are cleaner. Alot of people will disagree with that but to each his own.
Another thing I noticed with the Bosch, the hems of my jeans started to fray, have not had that happen with the Speed Queen top loader, and my clothes don't pill like they did in the FL.
Hope this helps.


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