Just popping in to say hi! been working 10-11 hr days and have not had much puter time to check forums and emails---thus full mailbox!!! My neighbor told me about that today--his emails kept coming back!! Just deleted 598! Should be good for awhile! LOL! I have tried to get some gardening time in on the weekends and making a little progress, but so much to do other than gardening, like the crappy house cleaning, laundry, grocery shopping etc. Why can't the house just clean itself? And the clothes stay clean? And food just STAYS even after you take something out to cook? And the pets feed themselves? Well-guess I just gota do what I can! LOL! I have a complaint in on KatzKountryKuttins in the paypal resolution area and waiting to find out what they will do. Will get on the forum when I can--In the meantime I wish you all happy gardening! Linda

Lavender_lass, I, too, prefer the sink under the window but we were so motivated by the ease of venting the stove, there was no way to keep the sink on the same wall as the stove. Desertsteph, hard to say who works in the kitchen more. I do 90% of the cooking, DH does 90% of the cleanup. Besides the sink and lazy susan corner, there is only the drawer stack already plus the 18 DW to the left of the sink and the 9 full height door to the right of the stove for the griddle, cookies sheets & jelly roll pan and cutting board. The filler to the right of the stove is 1 inch plus a fraction, the filler to the left of the fridge is 3 inches plus a very small fraction. The fridge requires a minimum 2 inches of clearance when placed next to the wall in the corner. Palimpsest, you just gave me a wonderful idea. I NEVER thought about going behind the crown above the cabs, we were going to break through to the garage, do something with this very large antique mahogany cab that I use as my pantry on that wall and go out the side of the house. Up is not an option as it would be smack in the middle of the landing when you go up the attic steps (someday we hope to finish that off and add a bath if the kitchen or DH doesn't kill me first). I think I was under the false impression that the vent had to be a 6, 7 or 8 in ROUND. I will have to investigate this! Thank you!! Fori, I too prefer #2. All of our pots and pans are kept in a 24 inch 1 door cab now which was fine with us and Layout #1 mimicked that same access but in a 30 inch 2 door cab and we just thought that was so much better but over the w/e, I saw a 36 lazy susan display and said we can do this instead! It did look very roomy. Marcolo, thanks! I just think that with the DW to the left of the sink that will be so much better and easier to unload to the right for the drawer stack and dish cab and I will have more room to the side of the stove. Oh, I hope I'm a happy puppy! Clueless & Buehl, thanks for your vote! Deedles, I thought that too about #1 especially since I am tall. I guess it's one of those things that you really have to see and feel in person. We were going to go straight back initially but it would be impossible to access that cab above the sink in the corner and I just couldn't give up a cab. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH! It was nice knowing you as I am sure the KD will kill me when I go back to her this week and make her rework everything.

The child can choose at 12 but you cannot force the parent to take him in. This happened to an adult friend of mine. Her parents split and when she turned 12 she wanted to live with her dad. THey had to go to court because it needs to be legalized. Well dad said no to the judge that he has no interest in his daughter living with him. So of course she was devastated. So sweeby, the child can choose but so can the parent. As for my sd , yes she wants to go to college, university. My husband believes that with all the poisoning BM has done saying where we live is dangerous and evil that she will still with mom for sure till18 and mostly likely wont move in after that. So he is in denial from my perspective. My SM said that most likely she will find a boyfriend and live with him. And with the value that bm has taught her....that sounds like more plausible outcome. And the home i will purchase will be outside of the city...so...will have to go to live with roommates or dormatory for university. That is anotehr option. There is nothing i can do until the moment comes except make it clear and remind my dh from time to time. I've also stated to him that when they come for an extented period of time, he loses his patience and the visit a few months ago ended badly with her and him fighting. Its not me who wotn get along with her...its my dh and i dont want to be stress because he is stressed. LH - you can't really iron it out. Because nothing has happened yet but the line was thrown from bm. I remember my Sd telling me it...and i said...what if you want to stay until you are ready to leave from moms? and i also told her that by the time i was 15 i had a fulltime job and a place of my own. The thing that disgusts me, is that this line just proves that all she wants is money....all that counts is money. Not her childs emotions, education , well being....all about the money and how much she can gouge out of my Dh. I'm just so disgusted with her and im happy i never deal with her. No communication what so ever hallaluya! Have i told you BM is a substance abuser? and has no job now? the substance she hides very well and so far the only thing we see and hear is she has mood swings...but apart from that, kids are fine. But they really do not say much about their household. Ours is very stable and its day and night between the two homes. Her new husband swears at the kids from time to time..yah we all lose our temper but even my sd friends do not like this guy. And if my husband ever told me to F off...oh nelly! Where is the shovel!?

...and remove perfectly good fruits hoping to develop? No way. Doubly no way bc these are small tomatoes and take little energy from the plant compared to beefsteaks. Tripley no way because they are determinates and nodes are limited... The determinate does not stop growing when it begins to flower - where did you see that? Eventually all growing tips go blind. Find your growing tips (main and side) and count them and convince yourself your plant has a long way to go by observing active growing tip that aren't just a terminal flower cluster ... that's the growth habit.. And also notice how quickly you want to graduate to indeterminates and good you got the taller support! Cheers PC