Note: FYI: Posted on January 31, 2011 supplement to ARS Official Rose List to "Rose" Group and to Garden Web members. I noted that "Mary Pickersgill" is listed as single (4-8) petals in the 2011 January/February Rose magazine, while MR 12 database list it as having 26-40 petals. Purpose: to inform ARS, judges and exhibitors of a mistake in an ARS official judging document. Rather than ARS acknowledging an error, compounded the mistake by posting on its website "News" section, (Corrected Jan/Feb 2011 Rose Registrations.) "Due to a system upgrade in the publishing department, a font compatibility issue caused several squares to print in the 2011 January/February "Rose" Registrations. Please see the Resources section under "American Rose" to download a corrected PDF. We apologize for the inconvenience." Yes several squares were filled in, even though it had nothing to do with actual judging, but not a word that it also changed "Mary Pickersgill" petal count to full (26/40) petals in the revised 2011 January/February "Rose" Registrations. While the "News" section is not considered an official judging document, by noting corrections to 2011 Jan/Feb "Rose Registrations, ARS sneakily filled its obligation of notifying the public that "Mary Pickersgill" has a changed petal count. The "Mary Pickersgill" incident is a typical example of ARS twisting the facts. To learn more, go to ARS IRAR-R/ Rose registrations, information listed is that Mary Pickersgill was registered on 10-13-2010, being in bold print indicating a change accrued in the previous 4 months. Next try ARS MR 12 database, use the Search box to locate "Mary Pickersgill" listed as full (26/40) petals, with the latest update of 10-21-2010. After completing this circle several times, realize a change was made, but when? Approximately 18 months ago a similar issue accursed with "Renegade" registered in 2008 was listed as a single when it�s a double. Finally it was changed to the proper petal count in ARS 2010 Official List. When the 2011 handbook was published, "Renegade" again was listed as a single, this time without noting a correction to the 2011 Handbook, in MR 12 database. *As previous posted, ARS is not ready for Modern Technology.* 2-4-2011

ARS 2010 OFFICIAL ROSE LIST SUPPLEMENT, AUGUST 2010 FC Registered and/or unregistered roses with ARS Approved Exhibition Names (AENs), missing from ARS 2010 Official List and/or Modern Roses 12. Lists are posted on the last day of each month, remaining valid until ARS publically publishes something to the contrary. (1) ARS Approved Exhibition Name (AEN), or temp. (AEN). (2) Color Classification. 3) ICRA-R Recent Rose Registrant (4) Rose magazine registrations. (**) Roses Ineligible for Dowager Queen. (X) Red, are new or rose changes this month. *****THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ARS PUBLICATION***** By Ronald Schwerdt 8-31-2010 MODERN ROSES HYBRID TEAS: (HT) Amelia HT, mp, 4-20-2010 Arjuna HT, mr, 3/12/2010, 5/2010 Ayumi HT, my, 2010 Baqi Billah Maulama Shaykh Nazim Betty Knight Scripps HT, m, 2010 Black Berry HT, dr, 2009 Brumildavan Rensburg Ht, lp, 2009 Buckwheat HT-2009>>>MinFl-6-17-2010 Carolina Pride HT, mr, 3-12-2010, 5/2010 Casey Alexandra HT, ob, 7-7-2010, Champagne Celebration HT, ab, 2010 Deepwater HT, m, 2009 Delray HT, pb, 7-10-2010, Delightful Blessings w, 7-9-2010, DianeÂs Delight HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Double Exposure HT, yb, 7-7-2010, Ducat Ht, my, 2009 Every Good Gift HT, mr, 7-7-2010, FatherÂs Love HT, 2009 First Lady A ly, 4-20-2010 Fortunate HT, rb, Garden Director Bartje Miller rb, 4-20-10 Grandma Dee HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Honey Trump HT, ab, 2005 Jim-Z rb, 4-20-2010 Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe HT, dp, Joy Unspeakable HT, w, 7-7-2010, Julischka HT, ob, 2010 Jycinda Maree HT, LP, 7-7-2010, Katie Louise Ray HT, r, 7-10-2010, La Rose Des 4 Vents HT, lp, 2008 Lady Nefer Guinevere HT, dr, 3-12-2010 Laetitia Casta HT, pb, 2010 Laura V. HT, pb, 7-7-2010, Lemon Lexie HT, yb, 4-20-2010 Love Everlasting HT, pb, 7-7-2010, Loveable HT, yb, 7-26-2010 Ma Normandie HT, pb, 2010 Maid of Dignity HT, op, 1997 Martina Mondadori HT, pb, 2007 Mon Petit Chou HT, dp, 2010 My Lady Barbara HT, pb, 3-1-2010 Mysterieuse HT, m, 2010 Natali HT, dp, 2010 Pacific Celebration HT, yb, 7-7-2010, Party Dress HT, mp, 2009 Patience HT, pb, 2010 Prof Piet Hoek HT, w, 2009 Raspberry Ice HT w, 2009 Rosarian Madame Hideko rb, 7-9-10, S Pandey HT, pb, 2004 Sanctuary 2007 HT, w, 2007 Silver Mascara HT, m, 2006 Sister Jane 3-12-2010>>> HT- (X) Smoothie HT, Ob, 2010 Souv De Baden-Baden HT, pb, Sparkle HT, ob, 2010 St MaryÂs School HT, mr, 2009 Sugar Moon HT, w, 7-26-2010 Sunny Sky HT, my, 2010 Super N-Joy HT, pb, 2009 T. H. Coop HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Takiginou HT, mr, 7-26-2010, Tblbeta pb, 3-5-07, 4/2007 The Great White HT, w, 3-12-2010 The 9/11 Flight 93 Rose dr, 7-26-10 Toplesse HT, w, Tsarina Ritorto HT, Ly, 2009 Twizzle HT, m, 4-20-20110 View Beauty HT, mp, 2010 Wakana HT, w, 2009 Whirling Waves HT, pb, 7-7-2010, Xavier Maguire HT, pb, 4-20-2010 Young Rita HT, yb, 2007 GRANDIFLORAS: (Gr.) Apricot Angel Gr, ab,, 2010 David Lowing Gr, yb, 2-9-2010 Montauk Gr, mr, 7-10-2010, Sweet Sarah Gr, dp, 4-20-2010 VicÂs Refrain Gr, w, >>>>>>>>>(S) FLORIBUNDAS: (F) Anne Henderson F, ob, 2003 Art Nouveau F, rb, 2010 Be Dont F, ab, 2005 Bordure Apricot F, ab, 2010 Bossa Nova mp, 1992>>>>>>>(Pol) Breathe F, ab, 2010 Bridal Tiara F, w, 2010 Cholan F, pb, 3-12-2010 Chou Chou F, ab, 2009 Day Dream F, My, 2009 Estart F, Dy, 2010 Famosa F , 2008 FemÂs Rose F, dy, 2007 Flame F, ob 2010 Gladys Quine ob,>>>M/F, ob, 3/2006 Hans Gonewein Rose F, M, 2010 HaroldÂs Pride F, ob, 7-9-2010, Harquest F, ab, 2009 Herbert Maurice Vary F, pb, 4-20-2010 Hermann-Hesse-Rose F, w, 2010 High Summer Skies F, mp, 3-12-2010 Hilda Sophia Lehmann my, 2/9/2010 Kandi Kisses F, pb, 7-7-2010, Koko Loko F, m, 7-26-2010, Lemon Veranda F, mp, 2010 Lovely Jessie F, op, 7-9-2010, Mogul F, mr, 3-12-2010 Moon Child F, ly, 3-12-2010 Mutant Charisma F, ob, 1997 Parbo F, ob, 2009 Pianist Hiroko F, yb, 7-9-2010, Pink Medley F, mp, 2007 Princess Tenko F, pb, 2010 Raspberry Ice rb->>>>(10-5-2006, Red Hat Lady F, Mr, 2010 Robert Winston F, lr, 2010 San Diego Sweetheart F, ab, 3-31-2009 Shakira Folies F, dp, 2006 Solero F, my, 2009 Striped Frau Astrid Spath F, rb, SusanÂs Sister F, yb, 2010 Sweet Dream Cream F, w, 2009 Tahlia F, yb, 4-20-2010 TeJoe m, 7-9-2010, Thanksgiving Rose F, ob, 2010 MINIATURES: (Min) All aÂTwitter ob, 2012 Be My Baby 2011 AOE (X) BENomen 2011 AOE (X) Bill Zumbar m, 5-26-2010, Bridal Shower Cl. Min, w, 2010 Chelsea Belle 2010 Hall of Fame (X) Fancy Pants 2010 Hall of Fame (X) Festa Min, 2000 Free Power Min, ob, Flower Power? Giggles Min, rb, 2010 Grace Seward 2010 Hall of Fame (X) Harpeep Min, 2009 Holly Tred Min, 1990 Intimidator Min, my, 7-9-2010, Kamakura Komachi rb, 7-26-10 LÂetranhe Min, r, 1996 La Belle Carmen Min, mp, 1999 Mr Gavin Min, dr, 2005 Ms Rhonda Louise Min, dp, 4-20-2010 Neon Balconia Min, dp, 2010 Quantum Min, mr, 2009 RobinÂs Rose Min, mr, 7-26-2010 Rose Tutu Min, w, 4-20-2010 Sans Parents Min, lp, 7-7-2010, Saxilb Belle Min, mp, 2009 Striped Delight Min, pb, 2009 Teenie Genie Min, pb, 7-9-2010, Toscana Balconia Min, op, 2010 White Babyflow Min, w, 2010 Zwergenfee 09 Min, or, 2010 MINIFLORA: (MinFl) Anna Mae M/F, pb, 4-20-2010 Anne Paul M/F, op, 7-7-2010, Apricot Ingrid M/F, 2007 Apricot Ingrid M/F, rb, 2007 Colour Scheme M/F, ab, 3-12-2010 Dream Catcher M/F, pb, 3-12-2010 Elspeth M/F, pb, 4-20-2010 Eternity M/F, mp, 7-9-2010, Fading Love M/F, 2009 Ghost Rider M/F, 2009 Ghostzapper M/F, 7-9-2010, Gladys Quine ob,>>>M/F, ob, 3/2006 Kilmeny M/F, mp, 3-12-2010 Lunar Eclipse M/F, m, 7-9-2010, Mary Pickersgill M/F, yb, 2011 AOE (X) Plum Sauce M/F, m, 2009 Powerhouse M/F, >>>, rb, Raspberry Ice rb->>>>(F), 10-5-2006, Remembering Margie rb, 7-26-2010, San Diego Sweetheart>>>>(Fl), 3-31-2009 Sister Jane 3-12-2010>>>>>(HT) (X) Skippy M/F, ly, 3-12-2010 Thelma Lou yb, 5-26-2010 Yellow Ingrid my, 2006>>yb, 5-2010, LARGE FLOWERED CLIMBER (LCl) Brownie LCl, r, 2010 Eiffelzauber, LCl, lp, 2009 Emerald Isle LCl, ab, 2009 Etoile Orange LCl, ob, 2009 Hella LCl, w, 2010 Muse LCl, m, 2010 Norma"s Love LCl-2008>>>(S), Parfait Amour LCl, rb, 2009 Red Beret LCL, mr, 7-26-2010 Soleill Vertical LCl, my, 2010 Stormy Weather LCl, m, 7-26-2010, Sunsational LCL, r Sweet Serenade LCl, m, 2010 POLYANTHA: (Pol) Bouquet De Mariee Pol, mp, 2010 CLASSIC SHRUBS: HYBRID MUSKS (HMsk) De Tous Mois** HMsk w, Kew Gardens HMsk, w, 2010 Laurent Nicollas HMsk, rb, 2010 Pink DarlowÂs Enigma pb, 7-26-2010 Rivers Musk Cluster** mp, MODERN SHRUB: (S) Abbotsford S, pb, 2005 AllisonÂs Wonderland S, mp, 4-20-2010 Amorgos S, Lp, 2010 Apache S, dr, 2010 Artemis S, w, 2010 Baronesses S, dp, 2010 Buttermilk S, w, 7-9-2010, Cento Qaranta S, mp, 3-12-2010 Como Park S, mr, 2010 Delightful Phyllis S, yb, 4-20-2010 Deseo S, or, 2009 Eleanore Cruse S, 2007 Equity S, mp, 2010 Eyes For You S, m, 2010 Flash Impact S, dr, 4-20-2010 Flying Kites S, dp, 7-9-2010, Fun Jwan Lo ** S, w, Garden Of Roses S, w, 2011 Gerald Van Der Kamp S, 2005 Jazz S, ob, 2010 Kara Lee S, pb, 2010 Kew Gardens S, w, 7-7-2009, La Sainte Victoire S, dp, 2010 Lady of Shalott S, ob, 7-7-2010, Lemon Fizz S, yb, 2009 Lorca S, rb, 7-10-2010, Mykonos S, dr, 2010 Naxos S, ob, 2010q Norma"s Love S, mp, 10-14-2009 Orchid Legacy S, m, 2008 Our Nan S, lp, 7-9-2010, Pat Henry S, lp, 7-9-2010, Paul Brooks S, 2006 Pinnatifide** S, mp, Premier ** S, w, 1866 Red Frutillia S, mr, 2010 Roisin Ruddle S, ob, 2004>>>Ron Ruddle Soft Knockout S, lp, 2008 Striata ** S, rb, Surprise S, mp, 2006 Surprise for Amy S, lp, 7-9-2010, Sweet Drift S, lp, 2010 Tam O Shanter S, dp, 2010>>>rb, The Sun & The Heart S, yb, 2010 The Wedgewood Rose mp, 7-7-2010, Totto-Chan S, mp, 2010 VicÂs Refrain S, w, 1/27/08, 5/2008 Wichtel S, w, 1994 Xtion S, dp, 2010 Yume Otome S, pb, Zaide S, mp, 2009 Zaros S, dp, 2010 HYBRID KORDESII (HMor) HYBRID RUGOSA (HRg) Hart Crane HRg, dr, 2010 HYBRID WICHURANA (HWich) OLD GARDEN ROSES

Julie, this is an old thread and not quite the right forum either. Not too likely you will get your answer here. You might do better on the seed or plant forums or, there is one ( I think) thae is about sources. check toe list of forums. donna, it was fun reading this and seeing so many names we don't see much any more. Wonder where these folks are BB

Beautiful!