Marilyn, do you not have clip this post, email this post, edit post... on your posting? Where is it? Are there lines above and below it to set off those features?

I hate the change. It's not a smooth read for my eye, but instead very halting and annoying. I suppose I will get used to it if I have to, but I fervently hope it's not staying!

Several times the page has not showed up as the normal formatted page at all so it must still be in the works.
I see the lines and the new area for those items. It is just different. As to zone of the area you are in that has always shown if you have it listed in your profile area if not it still does not show. It can only show what is in your profile.

I still see some coding errors where that =required is showing up there on the follow up message box.
It took several tries today before I got this formatted page rather than the stripped down only text version.

edit to say it does make the edit button stand out more where it is now.

This post was edited by ravencajun on Wed, Mar 12, 14 at 12:33

Add me to your list of people not liking this change. I have several eye problems and every time they mess with the format, print, etc, it makes it so much more difficult for me. Yes, I will adapt to what I need to, but it makes it less a pleasant experience for me.

Those lines for me are very, very faint.

I never even noticed them. My lines are not solid lines and they are so pale they never brought my attention to them. Maybe it is the way my computers are set up?

Sue

This post was edited by Marilyn_Sue on Wed, Mar 12, 14 at 13:57

I think it is "Tacky." I don't even see an EDIT button, unless FLAG means EDIT?

I have noticed lately though, that everything that deals with the public in general, assumes that everybody has and uses a computer, plus now, that everybody has mobile devices. I don't; I don't even have a cell phone, because I don't want one or need one.

I guess this is Progress?

As far as GW is concerned, I still long for the Spike days, even The Virtual Mirror.

Sue

I don't like this new format. The flow of text is interrupted. Please, if they have to change it put the lines on the bottom right hand corner. People don't know until they have read the post whether or not they want to clip it, email it or flag it. I wonder how many have complained about the old way. Probably not many. Not as many as are complaining about this change.

I like it as it is easier to find the listings like edit etc

The EDIT feature appears only after you've hit submit for your post. If you pull up your submitted post, the edit feature will appear between the dotted lines.

FLAG is not an edit button. FLAG takes you to an "email the site" form for complaints.

I have no issues with the new format. It looks fine to me. I don't have any overlap on the right side into the information column - but even if i did, what does it matter? It doesn't interfere with my typing my message.

Let's progress backward, please. As Sue said, this is TACKY.

Oh, and by the way, once my post above posted, I DO have the EDIT button. You can only EDIT your own post, so no EDIT button will be visible unless you're looking at your own post.

Are you all saying there are lines though all of the posts or just above and below the clip this post, email post, and flag post? If you are saying they are all though it then I do not see those at all.

Sue

I have no idea what is going on - except now I can see right across the screen and type - as opposed to typing though ads and using my keyboard as I would a typewriter carriage return.

I do use a PC - desktop - unfortunately with Win 8 and Internet 10. It would be nice if both were supported by our major Cdn. Internet provider.

I use firefox.

I have an idea when this happened. Late yesterday afternoon. All of a sudden the screen went funny. I was advised that I would have to sign in to post effective April 7. Well I already was sign in. My post disappeared only to reappear a few minutes later.

I agree with Sue.........why assume everyone has all the gadgets for messages, , etc? Guess I don't like change that much, either.

Why does it matter? It interferes with scanning posts and reading them. Do we really need lines to designate "flag" this post or to find the edit button? I think it matters. Not like the end of the world it matters, but it matters a bit.

no just those lines you are seeing above and below the clip this post etc, seemingly to bracket those in and make them move visible.
My lines are very faint and dotted as I assume all are. With firefox add ons you can change pretty much every thing on a page including colors and fonts and sizes etc. Check out no squint add on.
I am not really bothered by the new stuff yet but as I said I doubt it is all done there is more in store I think.

talking about firefox add ons I found a couple recently that I really like and use a lot. Those that use firefox might want to check them out, you can always remove them if you don't like them.
Cool previews, Thumbnail zoom plus, Image tweak. I really like the cool previews it puts a little icon next to any links as you mouse over it and you can click that icon to have that link open in a pop up window so you can preview it to see if it is something you want to actually open in a new tab. If you do want to open in a new tab there is a little tab on it you click and it opens it in a new tab. Lots of cool options with it and it is very customizable. I also love thumbnail zoom plus, instead of having to click on a thumbnail to see it larger and go to a new page it just shows you the enlarged image right there where you are.

Not crazy about the new changes, they suck up a lot of space and create more scrolling and interrupt the flow of the post and replies.

Why websites/forums think they need to change all the time is beyond me. Flickr has driven me away- I go there about 1/10th of what I used to, since they revamped.

I don't like it, at all!! Especially when the post I was typing ran into the ads and I wasn't sure if it would be posted properly. Also, the much smaller print is hard to decipher for my aging eyes.

Progress isn't always better!

I hate all changes...but I suppose I'll get used to it.....then they'll change it again.

I still like the old "Spike" days the best.

I have "clip this post" etc between 2 faint lines.
There are no lines in the posts themselves.
If you do see them, whatever are they for?
Clear and clean to read.
Hadn't even really noticed much of a change.

Firefox.

Thought I would wait a bit and see how I liked the new changes...... NOT. Gosh my eyes don't want to adjust.... but I, too, will carry on and keep trying 'new stuff'. Nanny

A lot of these "problems" are settings on your own computer. So explore your settings for your particular browser and set up your computer the way you want.

Do you want the font larger? - "control +" will make it larger on most browsers. You may have color settings or contrast settings you can change.

Do you want no ads? Install Ad-block - it's free. I don't EVER see the ads some of you complain about.

The stuff on the right side column aren't ads. They are GardenWeb posted information, and yes, there is a difference. They are trying to lead people to other forums on the site, by posting interesting things. It's not like they're flashing, or covering your screen, like some of the ads do.

I don't like the lines being in the post either. I agree with the others who said they should be at the bottom of the post.

And I mostly lurk instead of posting, but this one got my attention!

Too busy and cluttered. I agree that the typeface is changed, and not for the better.

Why the h@ll would I ever want to clip, email, or flag a post?

Nope, don't like it. Do I have a choice? Probably not. :(

Well I can tell you that this change definitely has not been to make it better for Android tablets because the reply box is totally jacked up.
It goes way over in to the stuff over on the right side and it will never wrap text.
You have to hit the return to keep it from going on forever in one long line.
Everything looked fine on my windows desktop, not on my Asus Android tablet.

I don't see any typeface change within the individual posts, but the clip, email, and flag section in every post is a horrid waste of real estate. This site is getting more and more difficult to read and peruse - in my opinion.

Please, GW, stop the madness.

I don't post enough to have my opinion count, but I don't like it at all. Too cluttered.

And I don't like how the size of the print of the "posted by so and so" is so small.

I agree that most people don't use or care about "clip, email, flag" and that could be put at the bottom of your post.

This is definitely NOT an improvement.

Using a P.C, I can see the "Posted by" O.K., even in gray print.

The extra lines and text giving opportunities to clip, email, or flag, are light coloured and not intense ...

... so I just skip on by - sort of "SOB" ... in another context.

I like the colour of the "Preview" button ... but not a big deal, as I never had to go hunt for it, before.

Sort of a shrug of the shoulders, for me, I guess.

I like being able to post a link and title it prior to previewing, which wasn't available before.

When I highlighted material here and pasted it to another system, e.g. "Word" for copying and printing, to save space, it was a bit of a chore to delete that "Edit" stuff, at each post, but not excessively so. Probably not much change, in current format.

ole joyful

One problem is that if you set your browser to block all images then you may not be able to see the new gold preview button. If you have that problem change that selection so that you can see the image of the gold button.

I found it an obtrusive enough change, that I had to look into how to override.it. Even though I already use an Ad blocker, and specifically most annoying images, and also use a javascript blocker that disables most active content, none of those were able to change the new green, dashed lines bordering the clip this post etc. links.

Fortunately it turned out to be fairly easy to override though the userContent.css file that is used by Firefox to allow local overrides of styling applied to a web page.

After making the green lines disappear I tackled some other styling changes that were not improving my GW experience.

Here's what my locally edited GardenWeb looks like:

Wow, that is really nice, Bob. Maybe GW will see this and adapt it for everybody else. :)

Bob: That's very similar to what my pages look like. What my main complaint is the 'washed out, pale' line that starts with " Posted by" right under the title of each post. Very difficult to read. On the main page and on the preview page, they print just fine. Why not on the page where you read the post replies?

Shirley

bob_cville, You are far more advanced than I, and probably 99% of us, who use this forum.

I clicked to enlarge yours above and for me, still could not use it.

I would suggest that each of you who are dissatisfied with the present changes take advantage of the FLAG option (it says there that they always welcome your comments) and let your opinions be known.

I did and I am waiting for their reply.

Sue

Mine looks pretty much like Bob's and I did not do anything to it. I don't do things to my computer, I let my daughter handle it. But she has not touched my computers in a very long time.

Sue

Still nothing obnoxious here. Whatever you've got to cause such a problem is beyond me. Things do change, and how it affects you must be different than me.

Its already less obtrusive than when they first made the change. Without the userContent.css override (but still running the ad blocker and blocking most images and most javascript), this is how it now looks for me.

if it ain't broke don't fix it

I don't like any of the changes lately...especially the pictures and ads on the sides.

Looks like distracting green lines are gone now, as well as the 'clip/email/flag'. At least on my computer. Good move, Garden Web. : )

I do like the 'most recent posts' column on the right hand side, though - I would never go through all of the forums on my own, and if a topic catches my eye, I now open it.

Hooray, now the read/post pages are what I had before. No more eyestrain. Thanks so much.

Shirley

I wish they had kept the "flag this post" feature that was part of the new version.

Hey!!! Back to normal!!! How about that? Maybe "they" were listening after all!!!

Graywings, the "flag" link just took you to the "Contact us" page which is also linked at the bottom of every page.

Wow! Garden Web actually listened? I'm impressed.

Maybe I am blind to change - I don't see lines in the text field. However, I am still using IE 9 because I had problems with upgrades IE 10 and 11; Those did not behave well when viewing web sites and were not functional for viewing email. I think is has to do with some settings that is not being picked up by the upgrade and it is such a chore to record all the settings before making an update. I should not be having such problems with these updates, so I shall stay with what works until the coders get their act corrected and if that does not happen, I'll be forced to change to an alternate application.

Changed back?

I hope that the reply box is fixed for Android devices. I couldn't see a large portion of what I was typing because it was under the pictures over on the right side.
Looks much better right now.

Hey!!! Nice! They moved the clippings portion to the right. Much better. Thanks, GW!

I asked. Maybe others did too? Probably.

jem, they're gone now. So did you look soon enough? I use IE9 and they were certainly there for me.