Hey There Eve, I have been trying to contact you via email regarding our trade. I mailed my end of our trade over a week ago, did you get it? I haven't gotten my end yet, is everything okay? Please drop me a line and let me know whats happening. Lisa

"From what ive been told and what ive read online the snapper has a very simple drive system that is easy and cheap to work on." RB> Do you know how the Snapper drive works? If not find out. The Toro slipped drive belt is the ultimate of simplicitiy, control and relability. "Also ive read that the Snappers deck is very tough and will stand alot of years of abuse." RB> Have you seen the Snapper and Super Recycler deck? Or are you just guessing. "Also from what Ive read the KAW is a very good motor that outlasts and out performs the Briggs." RB> Where precisely did you read that the Kawasaki engine lasts longer than a Briggs & Stratton and how was that proven? Do you realize that a lawn mower engine is usually the last thing to fail on a mower that has been maintained. It is nothing for them to run 30 years. Exactly how does a Kawasaki engine outperform the Briggs or any other engine. Does it cut long blades of grass into short ones any more efficiently? Your comments lead me to believe that manufacturer advertising more than anything else is the source of your information. Please take the time to actually look at the machines and do your own comparison before reaching a conclusion.

Wish this conversation was more current. I have a vulcan range with six eyes fitted for propane. I never thought about the issue until I had it for a while. I had old timey ranges that only had pilots and it never seemed like an issue. These six eyes have large pilots that waste a lot of gas. The oven is a completely separate issue. I'm also a jack of all trades electrical engineer that has been a controls engineer and a controller board designer among other things. The post about the igniter control module is probably the most reasonable way out, but then you need a solenoid valve that must be activated to supply the gas and time out if the flame detect feedback signal is not received. Right there I'm already over anybody's head that does not have at least some of my training. That is also a point of contention for me because consumer type controllers have no source code or schematics so you can maintain the thing indefinitely. They expect you to throw it away after 5 to 10 yrs and when a controller goes out that you can no longer get (and they are ridiculously expensive if you can) typically renders an otherwise perfectly operating appliance worthless. So let say one other thing in response to the post above that defended the high price of consumer type similar stoves: You will always notice that the commercial grade are built from much heavier gauge metal and and have less custom plastic or otherwise easily damageable parts on them. Those reasons are why I wanted a commercial range. I am still on the fence of what to do. One option I have considered is use igniter modules with a solenoid valve at the oven input regulator and then I will need a user interface, the simplest being a small NEMA enclosure with some industrial push buttons and and lights. Next I need a way to control these. This falls in 3 categories: 1) a bunch of relays ('70's stle industrial control - big, cumbersome, wiring in a cabinet, but he most Neanderthal electrician that work on it, but you need to know how to design it, but it's not rocket science). 2) a PLC - (programmable logic controller) - some electricians can work on these, these days, the are reasonable price ones out there but you need the experience of design and programming - another step up from relays - however, if the PLC has an Ethernet connection and a Modbus interface, you can integrate you oven control into an overall home control system and control or monitor it from the other side of the world. 3) The next is custom design a board with a microprocessor, the advantage being that you can make the wiring minimalist, but beyond that the requirements of what you need to be able to do are so great I won't waste any time discussing it further. No one else would be able to ever work on it and your insurance company would not like it. I lamented the same issues when I designed my septic system that uses crude float switch control and ended up using a PLC for that project. The inspector passed my system and said it was the most sophisticated in the county. So I can monitor the flow of T---s from the other side of the planet....Eureka !!!! Seriously there are a lot of advantages to it, but that is way beyond the scope of this post.

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