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Anyone Have the FX180 Formica Countertops?

Posted by debelli (My Page) on
Wed, Dec 23, 09 at 9:36

Was at Lowes (again) yesterday and saw a laminate countertop that I think was the Formica FX180. They didn't have much info on it and the people in the kitchen area were pretty clueless.

Has anyone had this installed in their kitchen and if so, what do you think of it, why did you choose this, how is the pricing on this, and last DO YOU HAVE ANY PICTURES???? If so, please let me know which color you have.

I'm thinking about a darker brown color if it's a LOT cheaper than solid surface. I was surprised not to find much of anything about it on this forum. Is it that new of a product?

THANKS!


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RE: Anyone Have the FX180 Formica Countertops?

I read somewhere the price was $10-22 per sq ft. I can't find the link now though.


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We paid $550.00 CA for 2 sheets; one 5x12, one 4x8. That was just for the formica, we did an on site install(no special edge).


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formica 180 fx Antique Mascarello

We replaced our glass table top with formica 180fx Antique Mascarello that is also what is on the counters.

This is a mostly DIY reno. We just got the cabinet doors and drawer fronts yesterday and don't have time to install before Christmas. formica 180fx overview

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Wow! That looks really great! I had no idea that it had such variety within the pattern.


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mineral jet formica

Here are some pics from our bathroom we renovated last year with Mineral Jet formica. From what I understand the formica 180fx has the same "etching" finish.

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Yes, lots of variety, I can't find a pattern repeat anywhere. I can post some close ups too.


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wow saskil that is awesome!!! thx for all of the pics! can you post a closer pic of that odd shaped corner by your stove? and your rounded corners? thx!

and your kitchen is looking grrrreat!

debelli - go back to your lowe's and take pics of it!! and post here. I think I'll swing by our HD and see if they have it in a setup yet. will take camera with me...


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I can't believe you didn't have a sales person who could tell you about this laminate! We were going to use it on our existing cabs, but then decided to just do the entire kitchen.

The FX180 doesn't have a repeating pattern at all. As I understand it, they took a HUGE pic of a real slab of granite, and then printed the slab photo onto laminate. The entire piece of laminate is different just like the slab they photographed. You should look at their website, it explains it very nicely. I ordered the big samples of most of the color options before we changed our minds on what we were doing, and all of the choices were beautiful.


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We kept our original cabinets to keep costs down and if we had removed the counter tops we would have destroyed the cabinets. If I had been able to completely replace the countertop, I would have ordered the counters with a different edge. The formica was done on site, put on top of the old formica. My cabinets are not as deep as newer cabs so that is why we had to devise a way to hide the unfinished part of the stove, that is why we have the odd corners by the stove. First picture has some coffee beans so you can relate to the color

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Our cost for the counters and table top $550.00 for the formica and $450.00 labor. I ordered the sample online, no one in any of the stores had ever heard of it but a local store ordered it for me.


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That is right Jenfromnc there is no pattern repeat. Here is a picture of my table top before we installed it.

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Thanks for all the replies, and the pictures posted. I actually like it!

SASKGAL, I'd love to see pics of your finished kitchen, it's looking great! Im trying to work with the existing cabinets as well and was thinking about a dark granite, or now, granite looking laminate! Was it hard to find someone to install it for you? Please tell about your backspalsh and the tiles behind the stove, love them both. Are you happy with the way the seams/edges came out? Did you have to seam any areas on the top of the counter? For your cabinets, did you add any pullouts that weren't there before? How old is the kitchen you're re-doing?

Here's a picture of the cabinets I'd be trying to work with, I'm thinking dark with everything else, floor, walls, countertops - not sure what to do about lighting. Not sure if any of it would even look good. Closing on this house end of next month and continuing to look for ideas, and inspiration!

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Being it's just going to be the 2 elder geezers, I really don't need to spend all that $$ on solid surface countertops if this has a nice look to it. It's not going to get that much wear and tear as it would if the kids were still living at home.

Any thoughts to what colors would go well with these old cabinets if I decide to keep them as they are?? Any thoughts to a dark, dark red on the walls, or would that be overkill?

Thanks for any ideas!


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I will post pictures when it is finished. The house was built in 1966, the frames of the cabinets are still solid as a rock so that is why we decided to reface instead of a total tear out. My husband built all new drawers and we put in full extension slides. He built a "cookie sheet" pull out and 3 drawers where we had one huge black hole of a cabinet. HE also made a trash pullout, I got the idea for the trash pullout from this forum! I'll take a pic and post it for you.

We had no problem hiring a carpenter to come in an put the laminate on. The fellow that did it is kinda a "handy man". Because it was an on site install, we didn't have any seams at all. I think it would be cost effective to order the countertops already finished too, then you could have one of those beautiful edges. Granite was out of the question for me, it starts at $150/sq ft here. I can find better things to spend my money on. I am like you, two old geezers in the house and we are both happy with formica.

We have all the material to finish the reface including crown molding we just have to wait until the holiday season is over to find time to do it.

I ordered the tile mural from Ebay and installed it myself. The other tile we ordered locally and hired the install because we didn't have the equipment to cut the stone. It is a "Tumbled Random Strip Mosaic 5/8 Brown Travertine" the grout color is "Haystack"

I don't know what to suggest you do with your cabinets, they look to be in very good condition. I guess it depends on how much work/expense you want to do. You could stain them a darker color or paint them or do a reface like we did.


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I just realized I called the formica finish "etching" and it should have been "radiance" sorry about that.

Here is a pic of my new pullouts. I especially love my trash pullout, it is high enough I just stand beside it and peel potatoes, the peels just drop into garbage.

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Glad to see this post, I made a similar one a week or two ago. We are considering 180fx as well. The pattern does repeat, but it is every 8 feet I was told. There are brochures at Lowes and lots of info on the Formica website. With the edge I inquired about, the price was $27/ sq ft. The Lowe's display I saw was the same pattern as the pic posted above. I will say that if you will need a seam (over 8 ft) I wouldn't get it. My personal opinion is that the seam was very noticeable, epecially since it made the pattern go a different direction. I liked the look and feel of the countertop in person, but the display I saw looked bad in general. (Backsplash didn't coordinate at all, countertop was put on cheap cabinets, I didn't like the edge). It would be nice to see some of the other colors. I am considering Golden Mascarello. Thanks for the pics saskgal!


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Hmmm, I said the pattern repeated every 8 ft, but it may be 12ft. They had a huge display at Lowes just so you could see what it looked like when the pattern repeats. I should be sleeping instead of posting LOL, can't think straight ;)


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That's very purty. And interesting Turn your head and you get a new view. Enjoy.


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I called Formica yesterday, I'm sure the rep I got works from her home and not in corp. office. She really couldn't provide me any more information than what's on their website. I told her I wanted to see it in person and she gave me a name, the ONLY name in all of Miami, who they show as a seller of the 180FX in this county - phone's been disconnected. Now, MIA isn't a podunk town so it surprised me that there isn't anyone else out there besides the BIG BOX stores (who would have to special order it) that carry this product. She did give me a distributors number to call who supplies to dealers, will call after holidays. Just surprised no other kitchen places are not offering this. I feel if Lowes carries it, at least have someone come in and teach the staff about it! I have to go back to return something, maybe I'll get lucky and find someone who knows about it (I'll need LOTS of luck, I'm sure).

SASKGAL, I have a garbage pullout with double bins in my kitchen, I saw it almost 15yrs ago in a mag and had one built in my kitchen and love having it hidden. I like the one you had done with the bottom, mine doesn't have that and it's a great idea. Do you have any before pics of your kitchen? Would love to see if so. You are so lucky DH can build such great drawers! I want to have pullouts in the kitchen and once I get the house will start to measure and see what ready-made would be and then have someone come out and give me an est. on what it would cost to have them made. Have you kept a running total of what it's cost you to redo the kitchen? If you don't mind me asking, can you tell me if you've been able to keep it under $10K? I think your kitchen may be similar to the one in the house we're buying except the stove is on the other side, actually a cooktop and wall oven. Would love to change it up if I could but I don't think it's possible?????

I had a post with all the pics of the kitchen, but can't find it anymore among the thousands of posts even with a seach word, but here's a few more that I have posted somewhere up in this forum:

Left side of kitchen

Right side of kitchen

Kitchen

Kitchen

Eat In

KRISTINE, I realized I wasn't coming up with much as I posted the product as FX180 whereas it's 180FX. I think I'll have to look at another Lowes. The one up the street is very small and doesn't have as big of a selection. I may just break down and order a few samples from the company. Just not sure what to order and hate throwing money away when it could go towards the kitchen, at $3 a pop plus S&H it can get pricey to get quite a few only to have to toss those you have no interest away - money down the drain. I'd love to see if the distributor has any scraps he'd part with! Let us know what you decide.

So, any thoughts of how this Formica would look in this kitchen without painting the cabinets??

THANKS!

Happy Holidays to you All!


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Old Kitchen

Here is a picture of our old kitchen. I shudder when I see that glass tabletop, I am so glad it is gone! I used to have to lay on my back and stretch to clean the bottom of it. No little ones in the house anymore and still a pita to keep clean.

I think with new laminate and a really nice backsplash your kitchen would look good. I would tear out completely the little backsplash that is there and put a nice modern stone or something similar, all the way up to the bottom of the cabs. It is just my opinion, but the yellow walls with those cabinets are making me cringe.... I am not too sure how bad seams would look, it is a very busy laminate and it would all depend on where it was and how good it was "matched". I have a scrap that I laid on top of my counter and sometimes it blended in rather nicely, sometimes it stuck out like a sore thumb. I guess it all depends on what a person can live with...for me it wouldn't be too bad when I considered all the cash in my jeans by using laminate. lolol I know my old laminate was seamed at the sink and you never really noticed it. I love how easy care it is, doesn't show any waterspots, fingerprints, coffeestains or toast crumbs!

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Another point about the seams, it comes in 12" lengths, so you might not have to seam very often. From the Formica website.

Finish Grade Sizes
Radiance 12 2.5'x8',10',12';4'x8',12';5'x12'


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SASKGAL, honestly, to me, I liked your old cabinets - just not crazy about the lighted soffit/cornice (never know what it's called) but the cabinets are nice. I think they'd have looked great with a new countertop, black appliances, new hardware and a slate floor - but that's just my uninvited opinion ;)

I just got back from the same Lowes. I asked the gal at the kitchen area to see if she can obtain a few samples of the colors I'm interested in, said she'd call the rep and let me know in a week or so. Says it's not that popular of a product - geez, I wonder why when you have absolutely NO samples of anything to show any of the customers. How are you to order something that you can't see, other than a brochure. You'd think Formica would be on top of this, but it seems not.

The longest countertop would be the one where the sink is, which measures left to right 11'10", the one on the right is 7'10", the one on the left is 5'6" amd the one to the left of the fridge is 3'5" and 4'3". That means there would definitely have to be a seam, no matter what :(


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"at $3 a pop plus S&H it can get pricey to get quite a few only to have to toss those you have no interest away - money down the drain"

don't waste them - use them! I use one now under my coke glass next to my computer... use for a 'hot pad' to put a dish on the table or your current counter top, next to the stove for your stirring spoon, put under a small dog dish for drips and dropped kibbles, set a potted plant on it. many uses for them.

My HD didn't have any yesterday. all they had were the small chips - but none of the new laminate - what a bummer! will try Lowe's this wkend!

I'm getting a sample of the Golden Mascarello and the Yellow River. I'm still partial to the Butterum tho...
I don't have any really big spaces to put it so maybe i won't have to have a seam.


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Wow, I love my Formica counters that were installed a year ago, but I wish this had been available...it's very good looking!


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desertsteph, I had the Butterum in my last kitchen. The cabs were originally white, and we refaced them, and stained them golden oak. I absolutely loved that countertop. There were actually 2 seams, both corner type, and were barely noticable, and my hubby and I did all the refacing and countertop installation ourselves. We moved from that house in June, this year, and will be changing countertops here sometime soon. I would love the same Butterum, but these cabinets are stained walnut, so guess, I will be looking for something different this time.

Here is a link that might be useful: Butterum countertop


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cat_ky, thanks for sharing your Butterum kitchen counters that look so pretty and show that FX180 Formica countertops really are a nice product.


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Saskgal -- beautiful job -- love the pullouts. I'm stealing that idea, too (what do they say? imitation is the highest compliment?)

Debelli -- cannot wait to see the "afters"!


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cat - thx so much for the pic of your butterum counter! I love seeing butterum counters in real kitchens. did you like the etchings part of it? Does any of that coating wear off in time? i've only had matte formica in the past (unless it was the really old shiny stuff). I usually really like the matte in a plain beigey color. until I saw butterum, then decided I needed to break out of my boring counter top life...lol!

It looks great with the cabs I want to get. I like it even more since seeing it in actual kitchens on this forum.

Maybe it's time for a change for you also. new house, new counters. Check the Golden mascarello with your walnut cabs. that one has more lighter areas in it.


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I loved the etching part of it. We did ours in 2007, and in Dec, 2008, ordered more because we had built an island bar, with stools. You couldnt tell that one was a yr newer than the rest. No coating wore off. I loved it. I will check out the Golden mascarello. I did bring home a bunch of samples last week when we were in Lowes, but none seemed to really look good with the walnut cabs, except maybe the Deepstar Fossil from Wilsonart. I am pretty sure, I need to pick something a bit lighter, but definitely not the light that is on there now, which is the original 70's countertops. They actually, look like brand new, but I really dislike them. This kitchen, also has the original avocado wall oven too. It was priority, to change, until I used the darn thing, and I havent had an oven work that well in years, even the new one, in my last house, so it is still here in my kitchen. :-))


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I searched a lot on the web for more info and there really isn't much out there on the 180FX other than the reproduced wording of what the Formica website says already. This is about 1 of maybe 2 websites that people are actually talking or asking about this product.

With this product being fairly new, you would think Formica would be marketing it better. Why even bother offering it at Lowes when they don't even provide any type samples to see it? There's not even a space on the sample chip board for this product. Just a pamphlet. I'll go order some chips, but I'd really like to see it up close and personal on a countertop, or the actual piece.

Can't wait to close on this house and start planning what I'll pick and what I'll do in this kitchen (and the bathrooms, and the den, etc) House has a LOT of potential, I just have to find a way to tap in to it. I'm decorating challenged, need to see others ideas.

If anyone has any other ideas regarding any ideas for this kitchen, throw them at me, I'm not set on anything at all, other than trying to keep the current cabinets.

THANKS!


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cat,those butterrum counters look great and you did a great job with the cabinets. My cabinets are going to be walnut with walnut stain and I think they look nice with the Antique Mascarello. I'll bet the Golden Mascarello would look great too. What kind of walnut cabs are you getting?

Our local Home Hardware has a sample display up now and the Golden Mascarello definitely has more of a gold tone to it. I think it is very hard to really get a feel for this formica with a little sample. You can check the colors because the sample seems to have incorporated all the colors, but it is very different when you see the full sheet. At least it was in my case.

Debelli my old kitchen pictures are deceiving, the mahogany doors were getting very dry and they were chipping badly. I tried to take as good of care of them as I could and after 33 years of looking at them I was ready for a change. I also wanted to update the lighting because I wasn't crazy about the indirect lighting either.


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Thank you. I did look up the golden mascarello online. I do like it, and will be sure to pick up samples, next time I get to Lowes. By the way, our Lowes (26 miles either direction from me) both are Superstores, and have lots and lots of samples. I saw that some of you mentioned not having them at your Lowes.

I am keeping the existing cabs. They are custom built, and even after all these years, are in perfect condition. I did add some photos, to photobucket of the kitchen. Some are before we moved in, in June, and some of the kitchen after move in, and after the flooring was changed. Also shows a perfect picture of the lovely avocado green oven. I think it is the sister of Debelli's coppertone one. They look to be exact replica's of one another. Hope hers works as good as this one. The only problem with that, is it makes it harder to replace them, since nothing works like those old ovens, when they are working well.

Here is a link that might be useful: Walnut stained cabinets


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Week or so ago was at a kitchen design showroom and saw the blue storm fx180 formica-VERY NICE!! If I had known about the new formica and wilsonart counters I would have seriously considered it over the granite. I've always had laminate and it really wears well and never had to have any seams. With my new granite in the perimeter area had to have 2 seams. Have seen very tiny samples of these new looks but not anything large enough to get a good feel for the look. Laminate has come a long way!!


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cat - glad to hear that the 'etchings' stuff didn't wear off or look weird. did you and dh do the lamination part also? maybe I'll need to hire you - lol!

I do believe the Butterum would be too dark with those cabs. maybe it'd be ok with a light BS and floor... but it is a chance to try another color/pattern/kind. I think either mascarello would have more white, cream in them so that it didn't seem like it just merged with the dark cabs.

oh that green oven takes me back a lot of yrs! you might want to put it in the basement or utility room to use after you put a new one in the kitchen...lol! There does seem to be a lot of new ones with problems. That scares me.

saskgal - it's nice that they could do those corners up around the front of your stove!


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I wrote Formica a letter, will see what kind of response I get, if any.

It just really surprises me, as large of a website that this is that there's really only SASKGAL who's saying you have this.

SASKGAL, will have to check out a larger Lowes. They just recently came in to our area and the store closest to me is small, maybe I'll have better luck at another. Wonder if HD carries it, I haven't gone to look there yet. Now that you mentioned that about your doors and the condition when you looked up close, I hope I don't find the same when I get up close and personal with the cabinets in the house. When you are looking at homes you don't do a fine detail check of everything. I'm lucky to remember what I saw, which I have no luck at all in remembering and which is why I took 136 pictures of this house!

CAT_KY, I think keeping your cabinets is a great idea, cuts down on cost and as you said, are in great condition, so why rip them out? You can do a lot with those cabinets while updating everything else. Love your floors! I too hope I'll find a good replacement not only for the wall oven, but the cooktop. For the time being, I may keep it. Hmmmm, wonder what it would look like sprayed a color to match? We went in one home that was for sale, they had the original 1964 appliances that were brand new, they never used them, I was in awe! Would have been great to keep for a vintage kitchen. Can you imagine! What are your plans for doing over your kitchen??

CHRIS, glad to hear you saw a large sample, maybe they'll trickle down here and have one to see sometime soon. I agree, laminate has come a long way, but yet, they have not made a laminate that you can buff out a scratch as of yet. I'm waiting, maybe before I die??? Any idea what they were charging for the laminate?

DESERTSTEPH, if you remember that color, how about the burnt orange color? Actually, there's people who love those old appliances. I like them too if I was going for a vintage look, okay, not the orange, but the browns not bad. I'm hoping someone will buy mine when I get rid of it. I hope someone will appriciate the fixture over the dining table - it's cool, but not the look I'll be going for in there, though I haven't a clue just what look that is going to be as of yet.

Maybe today I'll venture over to HD and see what they have there, DH is working today, so it's a good day to shmize around.


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Debelli,
Is this a DIY? I ask because sometimes you can contact
the company and find installers in your area. They might
have or be able to provide samples for you to look at.
So sorry the big box stores were not helpful. I find
myself often frustrated going to he HD or Lowes. It takes
forever to find someone in uniform and then they are
clueless.
~boxerpups

Saskgal:
Truly amazing !!! You have given me some ideas for
a bathroom counter I need to think about changing. I love
what you chose. Simply beautiful and looks like real
granite. I am honestly blown away by the beauty of your
counters. I love the Jet color.
Thanks for sharing those pictures... The coffee beans
really show the browns.

~boxerpups


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The stuff has only been on the market less than two months. Hardly any showrooms have any samples. It's NEW. Have some patience and order your samples online. That's what our showroom is having to do. It usually takes about 6 months before a new color makes it out into the world. Even then, no showroom is gonna carry all of the colors of laminate that all makers have. There are just too many. That's why the makers provide free samples for all of the other colors. The small fee required for the new laminate samples is because they are LARGE sized and additional postage is required. It's just not good business sense to have to cut up a $300 piece of laminate and then pay $3 in postage for the huge demand of folks wanting to satisfy their curiosity. Only about 5% of those who order samples end up ordering one of those colors. It's a cost/payback situation.


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I have Espirito Santo 180FX. So far, so cool.


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Debelli, I have the stove top to change out too. I think people replaced things, here as they wore out. My stove top and hood are black. They will both be changed out to white as will the oven eventually. I do think you can spray paint the hood and stove top, but it is not recommended to spray an oven. I wont try that though, because my stove top knobs are on the side, and I hate that. I want them on the front of the cooktop. Beyond countertops, and appliances, havent had time to think about the rest of the kitchen, since bathrooms also are still in the 70's, along with most everything else here. All in excellent condition, though, so guess thats a plus. I actually have one bathroom with lavender, tub, sink etc. Even the ceramic tile on walls, has the lavender inserts for soap dish, toothbrush, toilet paper etc. I will definitely be keeping them. They have really grown on me, in the 6 months, we have been living here. However, the white ceramic tile floor, might just have to go in that room. :-)

Desertsteph, no, we didnt do the fabrication. Did have that done. We are not quite as young as we once were, or might have tackled it. All the rest we did, ourselves, including the floor, cabinet refacing, tearing out of paneling, installing sheetrock, taping, mudding, sanding, priming, painting(all that included 2 halls, a laundry, dining room, and living room, in that house with paneling everywhere). Hubby just turned 76, so time to slow down a bit. We will do all here in this house too, except for countertops.


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debelli - I remember the green, brown and gold, but not the orange! harvest gold was my favorite. I had it from about 1983 til about 96. it was 2nd hand then - from my sister. she was getting new stuff for a new house. i traded her a small trailer for stove and refrig. She wanted the small (tiny) trailer to use camping. I had the green from late 69 til then and was sick of it.

hennie - post pics!!!! please.


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As to repeats, this from the Formica website:

Patterns don't repeat across the 5-foot width of material, enhancing variation and veining in exotic granites

Our local Home Depot had a counter of Blue Storm, and big samples of the others. I had liked the look of the Golden Mascarello online, but in person it seemed very orangy/yellow--too much so to go with the Cherry cabs I'm planning. I'd really been looking hard at the Basalt Slate formica to mimic soapstone, but I have to admit that the Antique Marascello held up to the cherry cabs really made me say "wow". I'm going to order samples of both and go from there. All of the pieces are beautiful, with a lot of interesting pattern in it.


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I paid the $3.00 for three different samples! I really like the Burnished Montana to go with my honey oak cabinets and black appliances. I just haven't went as far as checking prices.
Alicia


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I'm putting FX180 in kitchen. (Antique Mascarello) My cabinets are 30 yrs old custom oak with several stained glass inserts. They are in great shape, but I'm not putting granite on them because they are dated. I'm 58 years old and waited a long time to get this update. Also new ceramic tile in main level which will include kitchen. I have a four foot sample of the FX180 which was left over from a job that a countertops business had done. The owner is a former classmate of mine and is also doing my counters. I'm thinking of doing Karran sink but will probably do top mount because I don't know if I like looks of undermount in laminate. I'm afraid of banging heavy pot against rim of sink next to formica. I think maybe as new as the FX180 product is, you may have to go to stores like Floor To Ceiling to get large samples or to a specialty counter guy like my friend. The lumber yard in my town has it. Menards can get it, but no displays in my town yet. If you find a dealer with this who has done jobs with it, ask for leftovers from jobs because they probably go in dumpster anyhow. That's where mine came from. I took a sharp knife to the sample and can not see any mark on this formica.


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For those of you still looking for the FX samples, I just was in Lowes this morning, and they dont have the small samples on the wall like they do for the etchings, radiance etc, but , they do have some very good sized samples on the counter where you order countertops. They also now have the brochure to read up on the FX, with a good sized picture sample of one darker one when you open it up fully. I finally got to check out the Golden mascarello from an actual sample. It is beautiful. Camarodreamer67, the Burnished Montana, is gorgeous. I really like that, and wish it would go with Walnut cabinets. I still havent made up my mind what to do about my kitchen, but I did order the countertop for my hubbys bathroom this morning. It is the Mineral Sienna in the Radiance line. I even managed to buy floor tile, and a sink this morning, so guess, I need to get busy here in the next few days. I think I am actually inventing things to do, to avoid making a decision on countertops, because I really like the darker tops the best, and know, I should be looking at lighter ones.


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I've been eyeing the FX for my counters too. I've ordered and received samples of both the Golden Mascarello and Espirito Santo. I'm still waiting for the sample of Antique Mascarello......

Anyhow, I'm trying to select something to go with natural oak cabinets, white appliances and gunstock floors. Here's a few photos of Golden Mascarello. What do you think? (sorry for the flash -- but it kinda matches the appliances -- lol!)

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Hey All! Just wanted to do a little update with my experience with the FX180 thus far.

I called the gal over at Lowes that said she would talk to the Formica rep and try to get some samples. She said, as of over a week and a half ago when we spoke, the rep hasn't returned any calls. She said she has 2 other customers with requests. For me personally, this doesn't say all too much about Formicas repsonse time to customers, or even to those who are trying to sell their product. I'm a little worried should there be an issue in using their countertop material, how they may respond, or not respond, in a timely manner.

A couple days ago (1/6) I FINALLY got a reply from Formica (wrote them on 12/26 and they promise a 2 day response), pasted below:

) Samples in size 12"x12" of 180fx by Formica Group can be purchased
on-line via www.formica180fx.com/homeowner/order samples and
brochure--enter your contact information to initiate the order. Due to the
large scale pattern of the product, small samples are not available as they
do not fully represent the product well.

2) If you are not able to order the samples on-line - visit
www.formica180fx.com/homeowner/order samples and brochure/select--where to
buy--enter your zipcode--a retailer/dealer listing should appear. You can
visit the showroom to view a vignette or samples in person. We have ~1900+
dealers/retailers with access to this product nationwide.

3) We will officially launch this product at Lowe's by the end of January.
Most Lowe's stores will have samples to share with the customers by the end
of month.

4) In the interim, we will send you some 180fx 'paper' samples for your
review.

Good luck with your project. Thank you for considering Formica Brand
Products.
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It's obvious they don't read through their emails as I told them when I contacted them that the one number of the ONLY company who sells their product is disconnected.

And I'm still waiting for "paper samples" which I'm sure is the pamphlet I got at the little Lowes.
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Anyhow, I went this evening to a large Lowes that I was near, was sure if the tiny Lowes near me had the pamphlets that maybe they'd have something more at this large store. They had nothing, not even the pamphlets, they had no idea what I was even talking about.

Needless to say, I'm not at all impressed with Formica's customer service and response. If there ever comes a time that there is a sample to see somewhere it's gonna have to blow me away in quality, looks and price for me to think about going with it. I'm just a bit leary about a product that they aren't promoting in any big way, where a company like Lowes who's suppose to be getting it in just a matter of a couple weeks, employees who are suppose to be selling a product and have knowledge of what they are going to be selling, they not only in some cases know nothing at all about the product coming or can't get a rep to even return a call or get some samples for possible customers in the stores.

Hope you all have better luck than I have, as it seems some of you have.

Cat & Fekix,mind me asking whereabouts in the country you are that you've been able to find samples to look at?

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Debelli,
I ordered my samples directly from Formica. I paid $3 each for 12 x 12 samples......they arrived via fedex four days after I ordered them.

Hope this helps. BTW - what color are you interested in?


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cat ky - why not just go with dark cabs and dark counter then? go like on the BS, paint and floors.

felix - those look DARK. I copied to my photo file and lightened it up but it doesn't look like what's on their website for Golden Mascarello. `

just order samples from their website. I think you can just call the 800 # also. i did that for some last fall - but they weren't ones they charged for either.


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desertsteph - I know, i was a bit surprised when the samples arrived. I'm hoping that antique mascarello will be lighter.


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I have to make a decision soon on my counters and still can't find any 180fx on display to see. I ordered the samples and they are helpful, yet since it's like true granite one small sample doesn't give you the whole picture. I compared my sample with the kitchen guy at Lowes and it looked way different. I think it was the River something..very orange. Does anyone know if wilsonart's product is similar? I am having a hard time finding just the right color with 180fx. The antique moscarello is a bit too gold and the other moscarello (black/grey/white) is too dark.

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I would say there is more tans, beige, rust and greys than black. There really isn't that much black.

It looks even nicer with the cabinet doors/drawers installed. I am waiting for my crown moulding to be installed and then I will post finished pictures. I will try and post with some "known" colors so you can compare.


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Debelli, I am in Kentucky, and from my area, have access to both Bowling Green, and Glasgow Lowes.

Felix. I checked out the Golden Mascarello. The sample I looked at, does not look at all like the picture you posted. It is considerably lighter than that, and it is beautiful.

Steph, if you remember back to the picture I posted on Photobucket, I have a lot of dark going on here. We have always removed all paneling in any house we have lived in, but, this time, hubby has put his foot down about that (he rarely puts his foot down) and says he loves this walnut paneling, so it stays. It is actually, ok, since the area is more great room, and quite large, however, the ceiling is also walnut and beamed. My main concern is too much dark in the kitchen, although, I do have very good lightning. We changed that out before we moved into the house. My floor is golden oak, and I have some shelves and a microwave cabinet also in golden oak , and that might help offset a darker countertop. Appliances will all be white eventually, and the stainless steel sink goes, and will be replaced with a Kohler white sink.


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cat ky - my prv post "go like on the BS, paint and floors."

the 'like' should have been 'light'!! duh!

i relooked at your cabs. If you're going to have white appliances maybe a counter top that is a mix or medium in color. i never figured picking a counter top would be such a problem...but it can be!
I don't blame your dh for not wanting to tear out all the paneling again. I actually like some of it. Just go lighter on other things - fabrics, art work, etc. to balance it out.
let us know when you've decided on one- and post a pic of it!

erin - sorry to hear the yellow river is more orangey - that was one i planned to get a big sample of. I want something more in the brown/goldish colors. but not too dark. I'll probably still get samples of the new formica ones but am still pretty set on the butterum. that seems to meet my 'color' needs. I just need to definitely rule out the new ones that look like possibilities on their website.


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do you have your door/drawer fronts on yet? if so, can you post a new pic?

is the skinny slide out below your trash bin have a drawer front and pull out separate from the bin? it also looks like you have another skinny drawer at the bottom of a stack. does it slide out separate or attached to the drawer above it?


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Saskgal, I love your Formica 180Fx Antique Mascarello coloring in your pictures. I just decided yesterday to order all 9 samples since the shipping was the same and this way it will help me see which I like the best in person and help me with other color issues like tile also in my kitchen since the samples are so big. I really want either granite or this Formica 180FX since I really dislike my almond 20 year old kitchen counters with the seamed edge that does not go that well in my kitchen since I now have all stainless steel appliances. I think if I stained the cabinets a little darker (used Mini-gel and they are looking no longer worn in most spots and now have a shine), add some hardware, new counters and floor, I will be happier with my kitchen since I already enjoy going in it with all working and pretty appliances.


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Steph, you are right. It can be a hard job picking out a counterop. I have done countertops, many times before, and never had a single problem deciding. This time, is very different. I brought home a bunch more samples, last week, some are Wilsonart. Saw a couple more, I like, and just confused myself more. Since a lot of my accent colors are red, I might decide to order a larger sample of the Milano Blaze. I did a search online for a picture of it in a kitchen, but came up empty. Also kinda of like mystic Gemstone in the etchings line. One thing for sure, is the cats are having a great time, with all the little samples, that are spread out everywhere.


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Hi All!

The latest news...I haven't heard back from my follow up to Formica, not that that surprises me. I did call the local distributor for Formica. Even HE doesn't have any samples of the 180FX, and this is their one and only rep down here, the only one Formica lists on their website (with a wrong phone number, mind you) and they tell me to contact them - is this a joke????? He said he was going to call his rep from Formica and see what he could get but that they aren't too quick in getting him samples. Needless to say, I can't see me seeing this any time soon and as far as my short experience, like I said, this would have to blow me away to think about using this product. I'm wondering, since it's so new, how it's really going to stand up. Why they haven't really promoted it outside their website? To me, things just don't seem right, but maybe this is how big business works these days????

Has anyone noticed, they don't have any light (whitish) colors, most everything they have is on the darker side, it seems the lightest one is probably the Antique Mascarello?

So, for those of you who have it and for those of you who've bit the bullet and ordered the samples, how do you feel it compares to the look of granite? How does it look from afar and up close?

Felix, I'm not sure what color I'd be interested in. I really don't want to order any samples until I see a piece first, I don't care the color, I just want to see how it looks in person, than I can think about samples, but like I said above, I'm a bit leary on dealing with a company that doesn't seem to have it all together on this product as of yet.

Cat, maybe by the end of this month I'll be lucky and the lowes in SC will have some samples, but I won't hold my breath!

Lynn, let us know when you get your samples and what you think. I'd love to see them layed out in a row if you can take a picture.

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We've had large format samples at our nearby Lowes for a long time. I want to say early December. No one knew anything about it when I asked about price but the samples were accessible and they had the paper brochures (which were of great quality and looked exactly like the samples.) I am in Western NC.


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I am not understanding why they are not promoting it more either, and why they havent sent any of the smaller samples that hang on the hooks. You are right, colors are fairly dark, except for the Mascarellos. Both the antique and the Golden would go with my cabs, but they dont really go with anything else in my kitchen, and since my dining and family room are all part of this area, I need something that is the right color to go with everything else. Debelli, your cabinets should be easier to pick a color that will look nice. I actually like your cabinets. It looks like a nice kitchen, except for the paint color on the walls, which doesnt do much for the room. Bet you cant wait to get in there, and start getting things just the way you like them.


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debelli, I will be sure to lay out samples and take a picture with them all there and label them for everyone. I so far really like the Antique Mascarello in pictures I keep seeing but that doe snot mean it will look great in person. They are so easy to order by going on their website. I figured the price was mostly shipping since the shipping was so cheap. With sales tax and shipping, I paid less than $32.00. If I end up not loving it in person, then at least I will have color ideas for my floor, backsplash and have an idea what shades work in my kitchen and what does not work since the samples are so big. I first was only going to order the three I like but, I thought since the shipping did not change any, I would get them all and share pictures with everyone. Furthermore, if one sample is better in person than a picture, than I did not miss out. None of the stores have the samples in stock yet near me but a few of the big stores plan to have them in stock by the end of January 2010.


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I just went all over this weekend trying to find Golden Mascarello in a large sample or on a display(with no luck I might add). I am from Iowa and there is a newer Lowe's at Jordan Creek in Des Moines that has a large display of the Antique Mascarello. I have seen Blue Storm in person on a small display as well. Menards now has the small sample chips available. They really are not of much use because the pattern is so large that every chip looks completely different. I need to get my countertop ordered this week and I don't know what to do. I really like the big bold patterns, but am kind of scared of it as well. I don't want it to be too busy or clash with the pattern in my porcelain floor. I am going tomorrow to another store that is supposed to have all of the 12x12 samples. Hopefully that will help me make up my mind.


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Yes, I have my drawer fronts and most of my cabinet doors on. I didn't order enough hinges, so we are waiting for them to come in mail. We are using knife hinges like the original cabinets. You have to mortise them in, all you can see is the little pin on the front, but you can open your doors a full 180.

The trash slideout is one unit. We just put a bottom on it for extra storage. It doesn't open by itself, we have side access to it. We ordered a drawer front and a door front for the front of it so from the outside it "matches" the other lower cabs.

I am not sure which other skinny drawer you are talking about, under my "cookie sheet" pullout there is also additonal storage. I will post some more pictures.

It is interesting to note that after the cabinet doors and drawer fronts were put on my husband admitted he liked the laminate now....iow he didn't like it until everything was in place. lol

The fellow that put my laminate on said he was glad I was using formica because he doesn't like working with Wilsonart, he says it isn't as rigid so is harder to work with.

I wouldn't be afraid to use a formica product it has proven the test of time. If you want to see what kind of surface the 180fx is and can't find the samples, just look at the other samples with the radiance finish. It is the same finish, the 180fx just has different patterns to look like natural stone.


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I agree, wish they had a lighter color similar to the granite color Cecilia. Wonder if the lighter colors are harder to reproduce or something?


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Okay, here are a few more pictures. So many reflective surfaces it is hard to get a nice picture, but anyway..

The cookie sheet pullout is in the centre
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Here it is pulled out

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Here is the trash pullout.

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I was at a home remodeling show last weekend, and there was an appliance dealer who had a countertop of Antique Mascarello on his display. I almost walked by it, thinking it was granite--and then it hit me. It looked just like the 12 inch samples I'd just gotten from Formica. Sure enough, when you went up and touched it, you found it was laminate, and when I pulled out my samples, it was the same color. It's really quite stunning when you see it in person, installed on a "real" countertop.


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cj it is very nice but hard to capture. Here are a couple more photos to try and show the texture/sheen.

color & sheen

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You would think

You would think that I was selling it. lol I can assure you I am just a satisfied customer! I love how easy it is to wipe too, your cloth/sponge just glides across the smooth surface.


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Does anyone know if it is on display somewhere in the northern suburbs of chicagoland?


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Phyl~call around to a few differnt Lowe's and ask. I found one in our area that had one. Then I also found a local countertop guy that had several remnants of it from a job he had done. So...your best bet is just to hit the yellow pages. I started with calling Formica and they were of no help at all.
BTW, the blue storm and golden mascarello are beautiful in person :)


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erinb007-could also check out wilsonart HD


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Greetings All.

Closed on the house yesterday, almost didn't happen!

Anyhow, I finally saw a sample of the countertops at Lowes in SC. They have the 12x12 pieces in a ring bound type of book. I'm not sure if I like it or not. I'd much rather see it on a countertop but in SC, there are no dealers. I think there may be in NC not far from where I'm stuck and will try to see if someone has a bigger sample. I'm snowed in, my first snow, and boy, it's a doozie! I'm hoping to get back down to the house on Monday, before cabin feaver sets in. Until then I'm searching the net for ideas and watching cable tv shows on HGTV that I don't normally see since we don't have cable.

I see others have found Formica not being helpful when it comes to the FX180 and really, that concerns me as I've mentioned before. I'm just not sure if I want to go with a company that isn't even helpful in getting information on a new product, where stores have no idea what you're talking about, etc. etc. What if you have a true problem with this new product - I don't want to find myself trying to get help. There was some type of countertop I read about a few years ago that was new that didn't hold up and was removed from the market. I wonder how this product holds up over time.

I'm also wondering how this countertop would look with a seam, which is what would be needed in my kitchen.

What material doesn't need a seam, anything??

Hope if you are searching for this you can find it, they're not making it easy for people, that's for sure!


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debelli~
I saw Antique Mascarello with a seam and IMO, it looked terrible. This was in the middle of a long run. If it was in a corner, it might not be as bad. As far as durability, I doubt that would be a problem. This stuff is the same as their other Formica with the radiance finish which seems to hold up very well. I do agree with you though, it is very discouraging to not be able to find this product without a long drawn out search. And it is most helpful to see it in a full slab. Menards has little 2x3 card samples...what good is that? I couldn't believe it. I told them that they are going to have some very disturbed customers when they end up with a countertop with a huge pattern and not even know it! They don't even promote it as fx180, the samples are just mixed in with all of the other radiance finish formicas. People won't have a clue what they are getting. I told them that each store should carry a large slab of each color for a true representation of their product. They don't necessarily need to have it in a cabinet display, but they could stand them up somewhere where they sell there prefab laminates. Anyway, enough ranting for now ;) I hope Formica soon make this product more accessible for their potential clients.


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saskgal - thx for the new pics! before the fronts were on the cookie sheet one looked separate from the bottom slide out so i wasn't sure if it'd have it's own front and pull or not. with the fronts on now I see that it pulls out as one. same w/ your trash bin.
i really like the divisions in your cookie sheet drawer tho - will put pic in my idea folder! and even your trash bin is nice that it's small but up high with space below for extra bags and misc. stuff.

your kitchen looks great with the fronts on now! and the cabs really look good with the counter top! wow!

maybe this week i can get to my lowe's or HD and see if they have any large pieces of any of the new designs.
I also noticed that they have more dark ones. I don't want to go that dark. the golden mascarella would be about the darkest i'd want to go.


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I thought some of you might like to take a look at the websites that sell the FX180. I sure like the Antique Mascarello.

Here is a link that might be useful: Google Images


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this is a great product. Been in the laminate business for 21 years and this product will bring the laminate industry back on top. You can save thousand using this product as apposed to stone and get the same effect. 8 out of 10 counters we install now in washington state is with this product. This also looks amazing with A one piece laminate tub enclosure with this product that we manufacture. Good luck everyone


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I still haven't decided what to do about the countertops, or the entire kitchen for that matter.

There seems to be some issues when it comes to a seams and corners. Some colors are being said to be worse than others when it comes to seams. Unfortunately, with the kitchen the way it currently is laid out, we would have 2 seams and it probably won't look as good.

I had a cabinet guy come out to measure for new countertops and he was excited about finding samples of the FX180, not knowing that I knew all about it prior to his arrival. He had some of the 12x12 samples. The color I thought I'd like I thought looked very fake. Only one of the darker colors looked nice. I think, at least in my case, lighting can play a big part in it too, on how good/fake it may look.

If we decide to go with mica countertops I don't think I'll be choosing this product. Even going to Lowes, they aren't really selling much of it from what the guy says. People want to see it, up close and personal, not some small sample. And again, Formica just isn't promoting this product and it makes one wonder.

And as of today, I never got a response, or my lovely paper brochure sample from them.

Below is a link I found to a Facebook page Formica has. I don't know if there is more on there. I don't have a FB account, I was just able to access this after doing a Google search

Here is a link that might be useful: Formica FX180


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Debelli,

If you are anywhere near Greenville SC, Ultimate Kitchens on Laurens Rd. has samples of Formica FX180. Talk with Mark, he can give you information and is very knowledgable. He also has some great cabinet displays.


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Ultimate Kitchens phone number is 864-320-5484.


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Thanks Julie, I'm in Greenville County, in Greer, so definitely within range. Will contact them when I get back there next month.

I take it you live in/near the Greenville area?


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I live in Pickens County(Liberty), but do most of my business in Greenville or Anderson. It is about 30 minutes away. Let me know if you need more information. I have lived here all my life and know a lot about the surrounding area.


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Hello everyone-I wanted to update you that I took the leap and ordered the Antique Moscarello for my kitchen and laundry. Upgraded to the Ogee type edge. I have to say I was floored when I went to Lowes to visit my counter top. It is stunning! I now have it up in my kitchen (not yet complete) and will take pics. I was carrying around part of it in a huge tile store and several people commented on how realistic it was, wanted to know the brand, etc. If you are considering it, I say take the leap and if you can, the granite type edges make a huge difference. I will take pics of my seams. They are no worse than the seams I have seen on some real granite. I couldn't be more pleased!


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Glad to hear your happy, looking forward to seeing your pics. Would love to see a pic of seams if you have.


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Erin,

So excited to hear you are pleased. I've been following this thread since making a down payment on granite slabs. Yes, you read that right. I basically paid 2K to buy the slabs (3), but I kept thinking, why am I spending 6K on counters? Why? Why? Why? Well, when our F&P fridge repair people moved our fridge, they put indentations in the wood floor, so now we're in the process of sending estimates for that repair to F&P. Since I know the wood floor has to be repaired, it gave me a wonderful reason to put off getting measured for the granite and give me some time to think. I'm considering Formica 180FX now. Got my samples yesterday!

I do agree, based on the pictures on the back of the samples, that the edge really helps lend credence to the illusion that the formica is granite. I would definitely get the bullnose or full ogee.

In the next couple of days I'm going to price it for my kitchen, which would be about 100 sq. feet. I'll report back. In the meantime, what I'd love to see is pictures of seams, Erin or sak.


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Totally lucked out

I saw it! I cannot believe that in my tiny little town we have a locally owned cabinetmaker who is working on a display with Golden Marscarello (sp?). I went in and checked out the seams and I just got to tell you. . .it is beautiful! I will also be the first to say that the beveled edge they were doing on this project was really nice. It didn't take away from the lovely GM at all. Seams were nicely matched on this particular color too. Really couldn't ask for more than that.

The downside was that they don't have the equipment to do a bullnose or ogee edge, but they are going to price it for me since that is really the edge I'd prefer.

OVerall, I was very impressed, and this from a woman who had granite in her previous kitchen! I wish I had thought to take pics but I didn't until it was too late. Too, I would have only been able to use my camera phone which probably wouldn't have taken nice pics anyhow.

They are working up pricing for me on corian and quartz (figured I might as well do the full price comparison). I'll let you all know the figures for your own reference.


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Please anyone that installs the FX180 Formica Counters, please post pictures since I am considering them and will look into continuing updating my kitchen after my busy season.


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I will also be watching for pics! especially the GM.

if you go looking take your c amera! i've started doing that anyway because after I see 2 things I can't remember what i saw where! it's gets too confusing! did that with carpet and curtains already. i plan to take it with me to the flooring store when i go in a few weeks. otherwise, before i even get home i'll be questioning my memory. (what memory?)


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sorry everyone, I havent forgotten about posting pics. I just moved and can't find the thing to hook my camera up to computer (and also can't find just about everything else I own!!) I am unpacking more boxes this weekend, hope to have some pics soon.


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erinb007, congratulations on your move into your new home. We will be patient for pictures. I know how difficult it is to find anything after a move.


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My wife and I saw a large display of the 180fx "Blue Storm" at a Lowe's in Columbus,OH - I swore it was granite and a hugely impressive piece of granite until I walked up and tapped on it. We were in the process of getting a measurement done for our kitchen and we've switched to this product - we have 53 square feet with a couple of odd cuts - total job including tear out of old counters is approx $2k.


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richm_4808, any pictures of your new counters that sound beautiful?


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Just a small follow-up...

I have yet to do a thing in that kitchen,but...

I was at a new store in the area (or at least new to me) that had the FX countertops already made, at least two of the colors, that is.

Anyway, it looked okay when it was just a straight piece, but I wasn't crazy about it. Looks better in the first picture below than in person IMHO.

They had a small mock-up kitchen done with it and when I saw the seam in the corner of the countertop, that did it for me. I would have to have seams due to size of countertop. Didn't like the mis-matched look at all, especially the area in the front.

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Have any other GWers got photos of Antique Moscarello or Red Montana to show us? Have ordered samples of both.

Am curious as to how well you like the sparkly quality of the product surface and whether the twinkle would be just too obnoxious in front of a lot of windows.


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saskgal, your kitchen looks beautiful. I never thought of the idea of using formica for the kitchen table top. I love that idea. I also have a glass top (looks about the same size table as yours) and trying to keep it clean drives me crazy. After I get my kitchen and counters done (already ordered) I think I will see if I can find some formica that will coordinate.
How is it attached to the table legs? All I can see on mine are the little suction cups that hold the glass in place.


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That seam above could have been avoided. I saw Antique Moscarello in a real kitchen recently, and the installers really did a great job (or the fabricators, first) in matching up the seamed area so it flowed from color to color. That's a shame that they didn't take the time to do that, especially in a showroom. How many others do you think will be turned off immediately upon seeing that? They should have done their display better.


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I've been curious about this product as well. It's only going to look as good as the fabricators hired to do the job. Makes you wonder if they purposely sabataged the display in order to sell more granite.


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The lowes in my area also has a display of the Antique Mocarello. I too was considering the fx180 until I saw the seam. It looked awful, and this was a straight run...not a corner. I think it looks lovely if you don't have to seam it, which rarely happens.


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Another potential customer...me!

Have been fascinated by this discussion over the months. Cabinets were delivered today and so I can't dither any longer. I have just pulled out my samples of Antique Mascarello and am hoping that my countertops guy will help me work out a way to use it. I have a 14.5 foot countertop on the longest wall with a sink bump-out just to keep things lively.

The photos above have been extremely useful. Hats off to Sasgal for helpfulness and commentary.

Cat_Ky: Am wondering if you have progressed on the kitchen. You sound a lot like me--med oak kitchen, Kohler white enamel sinks, white appliances. I would suspect we're looking at the same visual phenomena and we've both concluded that it could use faux Antique Moscarello to jive it up. My biggest fear is that the product is too short to use on my cabinets. I will have butcherblock either side of stove so I hope that might mitigate some of the seam problems. In another week, I hope to report more about the fate of my countertop scheme. (Have picked out Nevamar's "Rare Earth Slate" as a backup product. Was married to the idea of Pionite "Bernard" for many months, but it only has a tinge of yellow and no brown at all, whereas these two pull in more of the gray-with-a-twist look that I think I want.

Frankly, folks, that seam doesn't bother me. I've lived with Formica seams all my life and they're just what happens. In fact, DH was pleased that it didn't look worse. He liked the photo! I would think that the shop would tell customers: "This is the most nasty that a seam can get; many are better than this but if you want this product, just be aware that this can happen." It's insurance for them.

If there's enough product to even make a mitered seam, I would have it under the microwave anyway. There are more important things to obsess about, including my window trim and my light fixtures. And my .... well, trust me there is more important stuff in life.


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Order sample of 180FX Formica laminate

I ordered four slabs of the stuff, about a square foot. It costs postage and a fee. Envelope was delivered within days. See website below, find the Order Samples after the startup intro.

Stores have a large piece of the pattern printed on paper in a tablet which has been very helpful for me--about the size of rectangular placemat. Between the real sample and the paper one of Antique Mascarello, I have done useful planning.

Here is a link that might be useful: Formica 180FX


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I have a Cabico Kitchen that is being put in. The cabinets are Dove White, the hardware is Cali which you can buy out of Lee Valley Tools (Canada) and the appliances will be stainless. The longest wall is 17 feet, then there is an island 8 x 3 and a small desk area, and 2 levels of counters. I am going to put in Antique Mascarello on all of it. I am still debating on whether I want a single large stainless sink or a composite sink. I will need another in the island.

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Pictures for last post...

Sorry, here are the pictures:

These counters will not be in for ~ 2 weeks (hopefully!). I will post more pictures once installed.


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Am thrilled to see Antique Mascarello laminate in another kitchen. Raspvalley, will you be seaming the long countertop?


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If you go to the manufacturers link - and view the pattern slideshow - the last 3 are the same image, that they must have just changed the colors on. I can see what looks like a man's nose in the same spot on all of them.


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I'm wondering, can you glue formica to a concrete?.
While were on this realistic looking laminate idea how about if I pour a concrete (~$3.00/bag) countertop and glue the 180fx over the concrete, so if you knock on the laminate it would sound more like "solid granite" thus adding another level or realism. Is it too much?


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Concrete is not suitable for a laminate substrate. If you choose concrete, choose it for it's own properties not because you think it can add "thonk" to a laminate countertop. It can't do that, and you'll just end up wasting money on both the laminate and the concrete. And, concrete for countertops can't be "just poured out of the bag" from a home center--unless you are OK with cracks and it being just plain grey. It's not the hardest countertop to DIY, but it requires more work than that, especially in material sourcing.

Laminate is also not suitable for a kitchen with sink bumpouts or other counter "irregularities". Seams are laminate's enemy, and doing a bumpout restricts you to using the flat edge profile for the least amount of seams (which still leaves yu with the edge seam right at the sink), or you can use one of the other decorative profiles with a LOT of seams around the sink---which is a disaster waiting to happen.

I really like the 180FX, but it's not an inexpensive laminate choice, and as a laminate, it's not suitable to many kitchens except for short term usage because of assurance for water damage at the seams. Seaming "matching" is also a problem, as is shown above. That's a standard laminate seam, which is why it's shown in a showroom. If you want a "better match" seam you will have to pay a pretty good upcharge and then you still won't be able to get a "perfect match". Really good invisible seams won't be possible due to the nature of the material. The longest a laminate countertop can be without a butt seam is 12'. Butt seams are surely possible, but with the 180FX, the seams will be as visible as they are in a poorly matched granite seam---unless you are willing to up your price and pay for several slabs of the stuff--just like you would have to do with granite and even then, it won't be "perfect". It's more suited to a kitchen without seams, such as a galley kitchen

By the time all is said and done, it's probably 50%-70% of the cost of granite. For some, that's enough savings to be able to utilize it in their kitchen within the constraints it has, but for some, it's not that big a leap to move on to granite and get something infinately more durable and natural.


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Joy:
That "nose" is hysterical! Now I will always see it in the three "Montana" variants, like those textbook examples from Psych 101 textbook on the page discussing illusions.

Live Wire:
You are making the assumption that a sink is an undermount, right? And that the lifespan of a laminate is "short term usage"?


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not suitable to many kitchens except for short term usage because of assurance for water damage at the seams.

Does this speak to laminate in general, or is there something different about this particular kind? Or does it speak to only laminate that is preformed and applied to particle board, as opposed to sheet laminate installed to substrate on site?

"Assurance" of water damage at the seams makes it sound like 100% certainty, and "short term" makes it sound like it will happen in just a few years. I haven't found this to be true at all of laminate. Until this kitchen, where I have 2 sections of stainless and a wood island top, but still have laminate around the rest, I have never had anything but laminate, and all was well over 10 yrs old to 35 yrs old...with no water damage at the seams. I know it's possible, but not even probable, in my experience, if the seam is done correctly. (I am speaking of sheet goods instead of the preformed, of which I have little knowledge and experience.) In the kitchen that was 35 yrs old, the original laminate had been burned in one spot, but that's the only damage I remember to any of the laminates in any of the 5 homes we've had.

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Rhome, that's what I was also thinking, that laminates are not a short term product in my experience. I sure hope that someone reading here would go away from this conversation with the idea that a laminate cannot serve over time.

We've just ripped out a Formica countertop that I previously could not rationalize covering over; I still liked it and there was never any significant damage to it except for a badly glued corner trim piece that I reglued with Elmer's GlueAll.

We did have an oddball seam on our countertop: a corner with a straight edge, a miter, and a pieshaped piece. That area did hump a slight bit over time, but only because the dish drainer sat directly upon it and not all family members were as diligent as I was in wiping it when water spilled. ( I think we were too young and broke to afford a longer piece of Formica in 1974.)

Instead of thinking of laminates as "short-term," I consider stone countertops to be "ultra long term" and therefore something to be tolerated if you don't like the ones in your house. I have a marble countertop in my bath that I have tolerated for almost 40 years. If it had been laminate, I could have rationalized a change long ago.

It's all in your perspective, I think, as long as the laminate and the stone are treated well and are good choices from the get-go. In my situation, the laminate is definitely the cost-effective choice for a big kitchen, it's more forgiving and more warm to touch, and it suits the neighborhood.

Have been measuring and thinking about the 4 x 8 and 12 x 5 lengths this product comes in. I think that on a long countertop plus two other big sections, if I had three hunks of the 12 x 5, I can get a lot of choices for the miters, but I'm no pro. My countertop guy is coming next week and we'll talk about what it would take to use the 180fx material and whether I should choose it.

The company below seems to be having a 180fx sale right now.

Here is a link that might be useful: Bevel Edge sells 180fx


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My carpenter used the sheet goods for my counter and avoided the miter corner by laying the sheet flat and cutting it into an L shape. If your counter is longer than the sheet, then, yes, you'll have a seam. My counter was built on site. MUCH cheaper that way even though I have a good sized piece of "waste" still looking for a place to live.


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A lot of the discussion re laminate in general devolves on the uptick of expectations. When our house was built 32 years ago in an upscale neighborhood, granite was not "in," and my counters were done in a white leather-textured Formica. The ell-shaped counter had one seam--none around the drop in sink. The other counters were shorter--no seam. I spent a lot on cherry cabinets w/ pull-out shelves--rather avant garde at the time. All of the above are still in my kitchen. There has been no problem w/ the one seam & the finish is still beautiful--unstained & un-nicked--and I still like it. As with anything, if you take care of it, you can get a lot of mileage.


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I'm not talking about the 45 corner seams, although those are subject to moisture infiltration damage as well. I've had customers who replaced their 2 year old laminate countertops because they had a 45 angled sink with the 22 1/2 seams on either side. But, people generally know that the seams between slabs are weak points subject to moisture infiltration. That's not what I'm talking about here when I mean seams. I'm talking about the edge seams.

This picture shows a flat edge laminate countertop that pretty clearly shows the two pieces because it's more apparant for the round shape. The top and the edge are two separate pieces, whatever the shape. The laminate dosn't wrap over the edge like it does with a rolled edge countertop. The seam between the top and the edge is the weak point, and is subject to moisture intrusion which causes delamination and swelling of the substrate. This is the edge that a custom fabricator most often uses when he site creates countertops. This is also the edge used when dealing with "bumpouts". The square profile can follow the edge of the bumpout, but it will have seams at the top, bottom, and inside and outside corners.

This picture shows a beveled edge, which has a seam between the top and edge, and additionally has a seam at the angle of the edge as well to be able to follow the angle.

This pic clearly shows how the edge is constructed and where the weak points (seams) are located.

Post form laminate uses heat and pressure to be able to wrap laminate around the substrate in two directions. It's like wrapping a gift. You can wrap the paper around the front and back of the gift, but when it comes to the sides, you're gonna have to fold it to make it fit. You can't fold laminate, so you have to apply a flat cap edge to the side.

This shows the flat capped side.

To get a side that appears to be "finished" on all sides requires that a rolled edge be cut and applied to the side. This creates a seam. Seams are laminate's weak point.

In this pic, the fabricator has to cut and apply the "pretty" edge in in sections So, you have a LOT more seams that it would appear from the promo pic. There is a seam between the edge and the top everywhere. There is a seam at all of the outside corners. This is a top that would be suited only for an area away from a sink.

Any of these seams around a sink will eventually become water damaged. It's not an if, it's a when.The most durable laminate edges are the ones that are post form rolled under the lip like the bullnose edge like below. Just don't try to do anything fancy with them and keep the corner seams and any butt seams dry, and they'll be very durable.


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Florantha, thanks for asking. Yes, we have made some progress. Countertops are in. I didnt go with the FX180. I decided to go with the etchings line and Butterrum. I am very happy with them. We put a larger top on the peninsula, so there is now room for seating, the new stove top is installed, and the new hood is installed. The new kolar kitchen sink is installed. I used same faucets, since we had replaced them when we moved in, to the same faucets we had in last house. The flooring we put down right after we moved in. I wallpapered the walls in the kitchen area of this great room over the paneling. The color I chose, is a close match to the paint, I have in the living room, which you cant see in the pictures, since the pocket door is closed. I put up the backsplash, red ruby glass daltile mosiac behind the stove top, and also behind the sink. The rest is porclain mosaic. I still have the ugly avocado oven. I still need to scrub down cabinets,light sanding and touch up here and there, and 2 new coats of poly. Probably a winter project, because I am trying to work in the front yard right now. Our kitchen is mostly cosmetic work, because of my hubbys bad health, and a retirement budget. I am attaching a link to photobucket before and after. Cat

Here is a link that might be useful: photobucket


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Live_Wire_Oak: I quote you here: Any of these seams around a sink will eventually become water damaged. It's not an if, it's a when.

As I said above, my laminate is in place 32 years now--not post-formed. Its in perfect condition. How much longer should I wait for the water damage?


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Here's a website that discusses the repeat of the Antique Mascarello pattern. It repeats every 5 feet.

Here is a link that might be useful: discussion of antique mascarello 180fx


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Hi Florantha,

I will have to seam the long wall. From the left corner to the right they can only go 5' (the other way will be seam free).

When doing a corner, one length can be 12', one way can be 5'. I preferred not to have the seam on the sink run. I am hoping that it won't look to bad as the seam will be on the right of the dishwasher and just before the arch which has cabinets coming down to the counter.

I finally decided on what sinks to use after going back and forth from stainless to silgranit. I chose Blanco Silgranit in Cafe Brown. The strainers will also be in Cafe Brown. The large sink is 33 1/2 w x 22 h x 9.5 d. The small sink is 15 w x 15 w x 8 d.

For the faucet I chose Danze Bellefleur:

Danze also makes a smaller Bellefleur model for a bar sink application, but I am not sure if I will do the same yet. It's a rather large faucet and I don't want to overwhelm the smaller sink.

My sinks should be arriving around July 19...so I am hoping that the counter installer will be ready by then.

I would have loved to do Granite, but... this was 1/3 - 1/4 the cost of entry level granite. The cost of Premium Granite if I lived down South would have only been double! I live up North in Canada and the granite price option is just not as enticing unfortunately.

Here is a picture of a Granite I found over the web... it's called Golden Lake from Granite Warehouse Direct. I think it is just beautiful!


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kmsparty, sorry for not replying sooner but I just saw your post now. My husband put clamps around the frame of the table and screws into the tabletop plywood back.


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we installed it yesterday. long message

We installed the "Antique Mascarello" Formica 180fx product yesterday. It seems to be great as a laminate product, but if you're looking for granite, go buy granite. The nature of the product won't allow you to have all the bells and whistles that the real rock allows (see detailed discussions above). I am grateful for all posters on this thread--you guided my thinking, decisions, expectations.

I picked out an ordinary laminate product for back-up as well as the 180fx one. Our installer is a garden variety, competent workman. He's not a high wire artist and he needs to go home at the end of the day, not stay for extra hours to obsess about things. He liked the concept of the long-repeat product and said he'd try it, but I don't think he had thought through the implications, esp. the idea of waste, so he didn't buy as much product as I thought he needed. "It will be fine" he said.

The idea of matching edges seemed so easy to him when we started, but by the middle of the project, I was steaming, probably because I've read too many of these highly critical GW threads about matching seams and edges. Once I relaxed and let him go about his business, all was fine.

(I think it's interesting that a number of friends' redone kitchens--upscale updating of well built 1950s homes in St. Paul suburbs--mostly have laminate countertops, laminate floors, and white sinks. Our kitchen fits right in with theirs in aesthetics and cost, but ours is DIY. Their kitchens have more stainless steel and more elaborate refrigerators and ranges than ours; they find us humorous.)

A G-shaped kitchen has three blind corners and therefore three places where countertops change directions. We decided to put butcherblock along the bottom of the G, which allowed us to avoid some laminate seams. There is one mitered seam in the upper left corner of the G and there's a seam at the double sink. The bumpout of the sink and the curves of the outside of the peninsula make it impossible to just turn down the edge of the Formica for the vertical edging. You just gotta live with it.

Installers cut long narrow strips of the product from the edge using a specialized tool, somewhat as I would if I were cutting the selvedge edge off a piece of fabric. These become the vertical trim piece. We had a pile of long strips to choose from, as well as numbered ones which we predicted would be our best matches for various purposes. But...if you want to play the "black streak goes with black patch, ivory patch goes with ivory streak, brown line needs to line up with brown line" game, we didn't always win. The corner miter seam does not line up much better than the one posted above, for reasons that are more interpersonal than physical.

Oak cupboards have a distinct personality and I've expended a lot of angst trying to pick something for the countertop that doesn't fight the oak but complements it. I think this works. For months, I've said that I didn't want a shiny countertop because of all the windows and ceiling lights, but because of the long lengths of counter, I wanted the look of a large seemingly random pattern even more. I don't mind the embossed twinkle (after a half day of familiarity with it) but I am very glad we got the most matte finish on our cupboards.

This is a Flickr URL, so you can click back in time to see other images also. (The red backsplash areas on top and bottom of G will be covered with ivory tile backsplash this fall, I think. Not sure if the other red parts will be painted green or remain red. Front of peninsula will be painted green or red. Red on floor is merely paper, protecting the new oak floor.)

We bought one 4-foot Ikea butcherblock $90 and one 6-foot at $130 or so--can't recall. Installation of countertops and the materials came to $1500, but DH was there working with the installer, a friend of ours. Probably an insider's price, yes?

Here is a link that might be useful: Antique Mascarello is installed with unstained oak cupboards.


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I know this is an old thread, but since I used it in selecting my formica countertop -- 180fx in golden mascarello -- I thought I'd describe the results. We chose it for the countertop in our L-shaped, 12x12 farmhouse kitchen. The cabinets extend to the 8' ceiling, topped with crown molding, and are soft white Shaker-style with inlaid doors, brushed nickel cup pulls and standard knobs. The backsplash is white beadboard and the walls are a soft creamy color that looks like a warm beige in natural light and soft yellow in artificial light. Floors are a white oak with medium-tone honey finish. The wall and floor colors pick up the beige, gold and rust tones in the countertops beautifully, and the counters are a nice contrast to what otherwise would be a very bland, white-on-white kitchen. The countertop has a beveled edge, with a "bump-out" for the sink to add some architectural interest (meaning, the sink and its surrounding counter extend an additional 2" into the room). Everyone who walks in exclaims about my beautiful, sparkly "granite" countertops -- until they touch them and realize it's not actually granite. There is a corner seam, which is not overly obvious, and to the extent the patterns don't "match" along the seam, this just mimics what happens when actual granite is used, so it doesn't bother me a bit.


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I just saw a kitchen yesterday in the Antique Mascerello with a valenica edge and the price is $36.84 per LF (in that color with that edge)at Lowes. It was beautiful!!! I was going to do granite, but have decided to go the less expensive route and do this fx180 formica.


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I purchased kitchen and bath countertops in Calacatta Marble. I ordered them from Lowe's, so they came out and measured and then I went in and ordered them at the store. I told the Lowe's representative that I wanted the squared off edge, because that would look most like a natural marble countertop. When I got them, every seam is a black line where the cut was made. Very disappointing because they don't look like marble countertops, they look like formica countertops. When you look at a large piece of the calacatta marble, you are never presented with the idea of what a cut edge will look like. Seems like I got taken for $800.


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Hi @Jajajeal,
I am considering either the Calcatta Marble or the Tavertine Silver for my kitchen counters. Do you have any pictures of yours? So far all the pic I have seen look great so I am curious to see the other side to that story.

Also anyone else able to comment on durability or staining( especially because I am looking at lighter colors)!

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Golden Mascarello

Just had the golden mascarello installed in our kitchen with bullnose edge.

We are pleased with the product and the price! Now we just need a backsplash.

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I had my heart set on butcher block counters until I mistook Formica for the "real deal" at my Lowe's. Unfortunately no one, and I mean NO ONE at Lowe's could give me any info. I think it is indicative of the granite-industrial complex. I visited 5 stores and called Formica directly, and was finally directed to our local distributor who was not helpful.

The Formica website touted the new IdealEdge line, which no one I spoke with seemed to know anything about. Though, on the web it looked pretty great. I finally harangued someone (at a 6th Lowe's) into giving me a price- about $22 per square foot for the premium edge if you install it yourself (at least in Ohio). A tough decision, for sure!! Basic Corian or other solid surfaces go for under $40.

Opinions on the general cost-benefit of the laminate vs.solid surface options?


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Here are a couple of shots of the Formica Calacatta Marble from the 180fx series. Thanks to this forum discussion, we went for it and are so pleased! I had a hard time finding real life pictures of the Calacatta so I wanted to share ours. It's been installed for 4 months with two small children and has held up beautifully. I can't say enough about it. If our budget had permitted, I would have done a double ogee edge. But even so, I love how ours turned out. Please see my blog post here for more pictures:

http://livingthehydelife.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-great-kitchen-remodel.html

and feel free to ask any questions either on the blog or here!

Here is a link that might be useful: 180fx Calacatta Marble Kitchen


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My company make laminate countertops. Formica isn't making small samples due to the fact it would give a misleading representation of the color. In a 12ft length of laminate 180FX repeats about 5ft-6ft.

WilsonArt had now produced colors like antique mascarello (Winter Carnival WilsonArt version) and Golden Mascarello (Summer Carnival WilsonArt version) The WilsonArt versions come in the harder HD finish. WilsonArt is coming out with more in about April 2013.

This picture is of Winter Carnival by WilsonArt


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I had a quote for these countertops by Lowes and HD installed for $4000, for our 4-sided kitchen. It was just as expensive as prefab granite! For the price I decided not to go for it, and poured concrete over our tile instead (yes, I did use it right from the bag from Home Depot) which cost me less than $100 and no seams.

I don't know if the price has skyrocketed or if it's just the fact that I live in a very high labor cost area, and our kitchen has irregular shapes such as a window to the dining room - but it was certainly not an inexpensive option.


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180FX Formica Slate Sequoia


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Formica 180FX Petrified Wood


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180FX Burnished Montana
(Customer photo, kind of dark lighting)


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>I don't know if the price has skyrocketed or if it's just the fact that I live in a very high labor cost area, and our kitchen has irregular shapes such as a window to the dining room - but it was certainly not an inexpensive option.

It's not cheap around here (East coast FL) either, unless you go with the prefab grab and go laminates from the stock areas at the big box stores. Otherwise, one reason formica is less popular in this area is that it's perceived as over-priced these days. Some of those styles are very handsome, but there's nothing budget-friendly about them in this particular market.


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One of the reason laminate can be expensive in box stores is because they have to purchase them elsewhere...then they mark them up. Depending upon where the box stores get them, they may have to purchase xx amount of running feet for a particular edge...like an Ogee. You should look for a laminate fabricator, that makes their own tops....probably cheaper. Visit formica's website or WilsonArt for dealer/fabricators in your area. Also, calling a formica sales rep could point you to a good laminate fabricator as well.


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I got a quote from Lowes for 180FX. I have 48 sq ft of countertop. I wanted an ogee edge without a backsplash. I was going to do the edge profile on 2 edges. The estimate ended up being $2400. We are getting granite installed this month. The final cost is $2900. I couldn't justify spending that much on laminate when laminate was so close in cost.


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I just DIY installed the 180 FX Calcatta marble with the ogee edge on the coffee bar area in our showroom. I ordered it fabricated to my dimensions, which means taking responsibility for those measurements, including the sink location. And, yes, DIY installing. Our retail price for the 10' section would be $275. If I needed that installed, the price goes up. $560 for that same 10' be fabricated and installed.


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mleighh Love your kitchen! It is beautiful. I am very interested in the calcatta for my master bathroom. Live_wire_Oak do you have a picture of the counter top you did? Do you think there would be any issues with it being in a bathroom? I am using porcelain calcatta marble in the shower so it will be a totally faux bathroom, but hopefully look nice.


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