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Posted by donaleen (My Page) on
Thu, Nov 15, 12 at 7:01

Walking home tonight I tripped on an uneven sidewalk and fell hard. Cracked my head, broke my glasses, and my wrist is terribly swollen. I hate that I broke my glasses and my left hand is useless. Up late icing my wrist. So glad it wasn't my DH who fell since he has started the cabinets and I don't want to slow that down. Plus I'd always rather it be me than him.


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Did you see a doctor yet ? I hope if you have not that you will. You could have a subtle break/fracture or other injury.Also hitting your head is nothing to ignore as "just a bump". ( retired RN here ) Please get checked out. I hope all is well soon and don't stress !! c


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Did you see a doctor yet ? I hope if you have not that you will. You could have a subtle break/fracture or other injury.Also hitting your head is nothing to ignore as "just a bump". ( retired RN here ) Please get checked out. I hope all is well soon and don't stress !! c


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Did you see a doctor yet ? I hope if you have not that you will. You could have a subtle break/fracture or other injury.Also hitting your head is nothing to ignore as "just a bump". ( retired RN here ) Please get checked out. I hope all is well soon and don't stress !! c


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Oh dear, falls can be so scary! I second what trailrunner suggests. (I had a fall recently, and I think I was so addled by it that it didn't occur to me to see a doctor.) Hope your wrist feels better soon, but do slow down. And oh, breaking your glasses is so annoying!


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Sorry to hear about you nasty fall. I can identify with you because a few months ago, I tripped on uneven sidewalk twice within 3 weeks while walking my son's dog. Besides feeling like a real klutz, I severely bruised my ribs and shoulder on my right side in the first fall and then fell on my left side the second time to even things out. My shoulder still isn't 100%.
I didn't hit my head or break my glasses so I was lucky there. I'm the last person to suggest a doctor but you probably should get the wrist and head injury checked out. I hope your not left handed.
Good luck in your recovery


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Any scratches, skin broken, blood to be seen? Best check up on when you had your last tetanus shot, this is not something to be trifled with. And I second all the advice given above, better safe than sorry! Speedy recovery.


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My mom tripped on a sidewalk in downtown Chicago. Her wrist was swollen and hurt like hell, but she ignored it.
Turned out she had fractured something and ended up in one of those casts that stick way out and you can't eat/wipe/scratch or pick your nose. It never set right.

Horror story because if she'd gone sooner, they could have done better.

Please, just get it checked out?
And I'm sorry about your noggin and glasses. I'm blind these days without them!

Isn't it the worst when you fall and have that OWWWW, then momentary, what's cut, broken or bruised? I fell climbing in my garage last week and landed down on my work bench. Panic for a second, but I only landed on a hammer, I think, because I have a huge, (painful) bull's eye bone bruise on my bummy. Say that 10 times fast.

Take care of your self. You're too wonderful to have broken!


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Ouch! Get thee to a doctor ASAP, I agree.

Were you alone? It can be pretty scary to take a bad fall alone. OTOH, you do get to avoid people standing over you and asking, "Are you OK?"


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Marcolo - when I fell off a chair in the kitchen years ago (before realizing I really did need a step stool to reach the top shelves), my sweet Golden Retriever came over and licked my face until I got up. Much better than a group of people hovering, but you're right, scary. I did get a head x-ray and it wasn't fractured anywhere, but it was well and thoroughly rattled. Someone pointed out the next day that my eyes were not blinking together.

donaleen - yeah, go get it checked out. There are a zillion tiny bones in your hand and it's easy to break one. Being able to still wiggle your fingers isn't a definitive way to diagnose break vs. non-break. And don't drive yourself even if you can without your glasses; head whacks are to be taken seriously.


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donaleen,
So sorry to hear about your fall!! ICE and ICE. definitely go get an xray.
Hope you have a speedy recovery, but this is the universe's way of making you slow down I guess.

Be well!


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Yikes. Hope you mend asap. I'd take it easy today if I were you on account of hitting your head.


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I will just add--
Sometimes with wrists, a fracture doesn't show up right away on xray. It might take a week (as the bone "heals" it widens the fracture there as it remodels and regrows... anyway, it is easier to see a fracture about a week out).

So, if you had a clear xray immediately after a fall, but it is still bothering you in 5-7 days, you should have a second xray.


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Thanks everybody for the support. Just back from the xray but of course I know nothing of the results. It really hurts today. My DH and I were walking home from dinner out when I fell. Lots of blood fom my head. I have a terrible black eye but no pain in my head. My wrist and arm hurt a lot. It is good to be home.I am hoping for no break because that would mean more encounters with western medicine and mor expense and more waiting. I am exhausted.


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Good grief !! I am so sorry ( and I apologize for the triple post ...weird GW !). I sure hope you have a negative x-ray and that the bruising resolves quickly. I am surprised they didn't read your arm at the time it was taken...never heard of that. Get well soon !! c


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Oh you poor kid! That makes MY eye hurt.


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So sorry! Glad you had that wrist checked out - I have broken both elbows trying to break a tumble (two different falls) . That reminds me, I think I'll go drink a glass of milk... Take care of yourself!


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Ouch! You really banged that head up good, didn't you? Glad that you got the x-rays done, hope everything heals quickly. Glad you got it all checked out.


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Poor you! Stupid crappy sidewalks. Were you wearing heels? Another evil invention.

Take a nice long soak in some epsom salt bath water. That'll help you feel better.


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Good grief !! I am so sorry ( and I apologize for the triple post ...weird GW !). I sure hope you have a negative x-ray and that the bruising resolves quickly. I am surprised they didn't read your arm at the time it was taken...never heard of that. Get well soon !! c


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.

i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.

i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.

i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.

i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.
i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.
i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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thanks everybody... no heels. don't even own any. the sidewalk i tripped on really needs repair. arm is broken, the radial bone is broken near the joint. i have to wear a cast for six weeks. it may hurt for years. so far it cost me 250 for new glasses frames (lenses are okay), 125 for xray, and estimated 500 for the cast, all out of pocket because all we can afford is 5000 deductible. such a great health care system we have.
i am pretty helpless. sucks. first time i ever had a broken bone or even a sprain.


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sorry for the multiples. it kept saying internal server error so i kept trying agan.


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WOW that bruise looks super painfurl.
Get well soon.


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WOW that bruise looks super painful.
Get well soon.


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WOW that bruise looks super painful.
Get well soon.


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Oh my. I am SO sorry for your troubles. glad you got the xray since it is a fracture. yep, health care is in trouble with costs.

I feel in late March and badly hurt my wrist. glad to report I'm pain free and hoping your wrist heels similarly with time.


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It hurts just to look at your eye, you poor thing, can only imagine how much you are in pain. DH tripped on a tree root in the woods last year and broke his arm, scary how that can happen, so suddenly.

(Wondering if this will double or triple post? FWIW, on an iPad)


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Oh gosh, so sorry, but I'm glad you got it checked out.


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actually my eye, which looks even worse tonight, does not hurt. My wrist hurts a lot and I am so very exhausted.


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Donnaleen
Ouch! So sorry to hear about your "face plant" and FOOSH injury. Fall on out stretched hand. Take care.
Also if you have not had a DEXA scan- might check with your doctor once your wrist heals.


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I am getting a cast tomorrow and need some advice. What can you wear with a cast?

Also, the ache in my arm is made better by rubbing it gently. I won't be able to do that with a cast. How will I make it feel better? How will I deal with the pain?

thanks
donaleen


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Anything loose enough to slip over it should be fine. Remember you might not be able to work fastemers well, especially on pants since that's a multiple times a day frustration! You may find a button aid helpful, check your local medical supply place or pharmacy that sells daily living aids. Also get a cast protector for showers.

So sorry you have to deal with this! Thankfully relatively minor injuries, though still painful. The doctor should be able to advise you on how to relieve the pain. Often anti-inflammatory medications help, especially early on when the swelling is greatest. But there may be reasons to avoid them too. Pay attention to how much Tylenol you take, if any. Not the most effective option here. If you are in enough pain to need stronger medication, try to manage the pain at a comfortable level instead of trying to hold out and only give in when it finally gets horrible. It's easier to keep up with the pain than chase it. Email me if you have specific questions, I get paid to talk about meds all day :-)


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RN back again...actually one of the very best pain relievers is Tylenol. Aspirin is also excellent. And Ibuprofen. The reason I am mentioning all three is because you can make a "pain cocktail" that is very effective and safe. The 3 meds work in very different ways but they also potentiate each other....that is they give you more than any one by itself. It is very safe to take one of each at the same time. Provided you have no stomach issues or any other reason not to take one of the above...if you are already on a blood thinner etc. Otherwise take one of each every 4 hrs. It is safe and very effective. The pain in your arm will get much better in 48 hrs or so..I have broken my arm and my leg in the past and my knee ! So I can tell you for sure that it will be much improved soon.

Also you should still be using ice..and can use it through the cast. On for 20 min and off for 20 min. You should be doing that during all waking hours and your arm should be elevated above your heart from the time of the accident on for the next several days. I think that is it...keep us posted and ask if you have any more questions. c


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Oh no! So very sorry, that stinks :-( Here's to hoping for a speedy recovery!


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Please rest, you have had a real trauma to your body. I hope in a few days the pain will lessen. take care.


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Oh, my. I'm so sorry this happened! In addition to the allopathic meds suggested, you might try arnica if you're willing to give homeopathy a whirl.


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thank you so much for all the great caring advice. this really is a great place, isn't it?

poor dh has to help me with everything. he is great about it. i have had to move out of our waterbed cuz i can't get out of it alone. it's lonely for both of us.

the cats seem to sense my distress and are extra sweet. the neighbors have been great, too.


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I broke both bones in my arm near the joint a few years ago. When it happened it hurt more than labor pains. The cast will actually help with the pain because of the support it provides. My cast went up past my elbow so life was a little difficult for that time. Pretty hard to wash your hair and style it. Also some dressing tasks are a bit difficult. I didn't really have any trouble with tops and sweaters fitting over the cast. The pain was not much after the first couple days.
One thing that was a real surprise was how much my arm hurt immediately after the cast was removed. When they put on a wrist brace that helped some but again it hurt for a few days.
I did get 100% range of motion back and have had no problems since. I was in my early 50s when this happened. So don't get discouraged, it will get better and you will get lots of sympathy.


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Oh dear Donaleen! I am so sorry to read of your fall and the broken bone. Falls are my modus operandi. In one year I fell no less than 5 times - even backing out of the door at my house twice! Please keep us posted on your recovery. Hugs to you dearie.


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So sorry to hear of your mishap donaleen. That is some shiner you have too!
Ditto to the advice trailrunner gave you (nurse here too).
I just got my cast off a few weeks ago. Fell in the garden on Labor Day (tugging on vines on a trellis). Fractured the radial head at the elbow and the thumb. It should start feeling better after a few days. Actually 600mg Ibuprofen was my drug of choice. Worked really well. And yes, keep it elevated to help keep the swelling down. Got sweats with an elastic waist?


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Wishing you a speedy recovery. So sorry to read about your accident.

Will the owner of the sidewalk help with your medical bills? They are responsible for its upkeep.

Typing on phone, sorry so brief.

Bee


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dh ran home to get the car and I pounded on the door of the house asjubg for something to stop the blood. the woman was very helpful except that when i told her she should fix her sidewalk she pissed me off by saying she thought it was fine since the city hadn't told her to fix it. i am thinking about knocking on her door again and asking for some help. didn't have it in me today though. for sure i am complaining to the city to get her to fix it.


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You poor thing! Your eye looks awful and your arm sounds so painful. I hope you have a speedy recovery!!!!

Since you mentioned you'd never broken a bone before, I wanted to mention that you can get cast covers that will easily cover your cast so you can take a shower. You can get them at a medical supply (or I bet Amazon!) and it will be so much easier than trying to wrap your arm in a plastic bag. You can get them in various sizes depending on how high up the cast goes. Check out the link below.

Get rest and heal quickly! Best wishes!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Cast Cover


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Good heavens, Donaleen! So sorry to hear of your accident. That's such a shock when you're just going about your day (or evening in this case) and then suddenly such pain and upset happens. Be very kind to yourself, rest up and heal. Let DH, the cats, your friends and the neighbors take care of you.

You're in Portland, right? I remember you posting about a great marmoleum installation guy and I took note. I live south of you, mid-way down the Willamette Valley. I own a little late 40's cottage, and info about competent and relatively nearby workers that do anything related to bathroom and kitchen remodeling is priceless to me.

Anyway, as far as responsibility for sidewalk hazards go, the City of Portland code reads:

17.28.020 Responsibility for Sidewalks and Curbs.

(Amended by Ordinance Nos. 182760, 183397 and 184957, effective November 25, 2011.)

A. The owner(s) of land abutting any street in the City shall be responsible for constructing, reconstructing, maintaining and repairing the sidewalks, curbs, driveways and parking strips abutting or immediately adjacent to said land, except as provided in Subsections B. and C. Said property owner(s) shall be liable for any and all damages to any person who is injured or otherwise suffers damage resulting from the defective condition of any sidewalk, curb, driveway or parking strip adjacent to said land, or by reason of the property owner's failure to keep such sidewalk, curb, driveway or parking strip in safe condition and good repair. Said property owner(s) shall be liable to the City of Portland for any amounts which may be paid or incurred by the City by reason of all claims, judgment or settlement, and for all reasonable costs of defense, including investigation costs and Attorney fees, by reason of said property owners� failure to satisfy the obligations imposed by the Charter and Code of the City of Portland to maintain, construct, and repair such sidewalks, curbs, driveways and/or parking strips.

B. Curbs shall be maintained by the City, except when in combination with the sidewalk and when they have been willfully damaged or damaged by tree roots. Intersection corners and curbs adjacent thereto may be installed by the City when sidewalks and curbs are constructed up to the intersection on the same side of the street.

C. Green street or other public stormwater management facilities located within the right of way shall be modified or repaired only by the City or under an appropriate permit from the Bureau of Environmental Services.

D. The City Engineer shall maintain general construction and maintenance specifications for sidewalks, curbs, driveways and/or parking strips. The City Engineer shall use the specifications to determine compliance with this Chapter of Code. The Director of the Bureau of Transportation shall provide copies of the specification to any person upon request, and make the specifications available for public inspection during normal office hours


The City does go out and do sidewalk inspections and if they find hazardous sections they notify the owner of the adjacent property. However, bottom line is that property owners are liable for damages or injuries that result from the their failure to keep the sidewalks in safe condition and good repair. Even if the City has not done an inspection and notified a property owner that their sidewalk poses a hazard, the responsibility for sidewalk repair and liability for injury if a hazard exists falls on the owner.

You can contact the City of Portland Street Systems Management at: 503-823-7002, Option "3" to let them know of the hazard. There's a whole process the City can go through to make sure the sidewalk gets repaired.

Document what the hazardous sidewalk conditions are and details of your accident prior to talking to the property owner. Have your DH go back to the site and get a measurement of how high the sidewalk panel or elevated area that you tripped on is raised above the sidewalk panel next to it. Have DH bring a ruler or tape measure and hold it vertically right next to the edge of the elevated area and take a close up picture so he can record the distance. I *think* City code defines a rise of a half inch or greater as hazardous. If there's no one specific rise but the sidewalk is uneven in multiple chunks, just document it all; take pictures and get measurements of the trip hazards. This is easier to do with two people so have him bring a friend if he can. (Your cats wouldn't be much help here, though I'm sure they'd like to be. No opposable thumbs and they'd get too distracted by the grey squirrels.)


It would probably also be a good idea to have DH write down your recollections of what happened during the accident, and he should do the same while the experience is still fresh. Details help. What were the sidewalk conditions that contributed to your fall, what were the medical and personal consequences. Having all this information will be useful in case you do decide to have the property owner provide financial compensation for your medical bills and other losses.

Years ago I blew out my knee; completely severed my medial lateral and anterior cruciate ligaments. Had to have reconstructive surgery and it took months to heal up. My elderly father had a major head injury from a fall and I helped take care of him and was his advocate while he was in the hospital. Both experiences were really impactful. Makes one realize how vulnerable and strong we (all) are, at the same time.

I feel for you and wish you comfort and recovery. Painkillers can make all the difference. I'm glad you have those that love you around you to help out. Time to ask for your favorite soup. Have someone go on a run to St. Jacks to get some of Alissa's madeleines and caneles for you. Do you know of the music website Pandora? You can stream in your favorites. Read a selection out of that book you have near you, or better yet, have someone read to you. Ask for what you need.

Here is a link that might be useful: madeleines


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...and get photos of the blood on sidewalk with the house in background. If they didn't wash it away.

This is what homeowners insurance is for (and other things obviously)
Bee


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What can you wear with a cast?

Spectacular bruise picture! I'm tempted to ask you to post follow-ups so we can watch what happens as the blood migrates its way to disappearance. Glad there was no head damage.
Regarding the wrist:
I had polio as a child 75 years ago. I fall fairly often and am pretty good at just bouncing. However, there have been two broken wrists and one broken elbow over the years, so I speak from experience here. They will likely cast your arm above and below the break, so your elbow will probably be stabilized. A sling will increase your comfort if the cast is awkward or heavy and may be required. (I used some nice scarves instead of the hospital sling when I was going out.

Biggest hint: Fasten your bra BEFORE you put it on. Then just put it on kinda like a t-shirt, arms through holes, down over your head and--erm--other parts. Fastening a bra one-handed behind your back is NOT fun.

Short sleeved shirts that button will be easiest, though you'll have to get the hang of buttoning. Pull-over t's with loose arms work well, too.

You'll do fine. But someone (tsk, tsk) will have to do more of the cooking and ALL (hey, you might as well get something out of this) of the cleaning up.


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I'm so sorry about your fall, Donaleen. We're all just a moment's inattention from your situation.

When I was 20 I fractured my radius. I only wore a cast for a few weeks (half way up my upper arm). I remember the doctor telling me that a longer time would make it harder to straighten my arm back out. Even so, it was quite a while before I could straighten it out, so be ready for that. I was fortunate that it wasn't my dominant side.


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Don't feel bad about suing for damages. That's what homeowner's insurance is for. If I were you, I'd make a claim for the lenses and well as frames since the lenses can't be in great shape after that. Chances are excellent that their insurance will just pay up and not make you go through actual filing of anything involving a court. For them, this is a pittance. Once the homeowner gets over the shock, they may offer to file a claim. Just document everything as described above.

I'm pretty sure that in CA the homeowner isn't responsible for the sidewalk. On the other hand, we haven't had property on a public street, much less one with a sidewalk, so I'm not positive. Certainly the sidewalks in LA near my daughter's rental were amazingly buckled from tree roots and maintenance issues and I never saw any homeowners taking down trees or otherwise fixing the sidewalks. Making a claim against a city has to be much harder than an individual's insurance.


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photo for bellsmom.. thank you so much pentimento for that specific portlnand info. one of my goals in life is to never sue anybody but i would like a little help with the bills. trying to figure out what to do.

break is worse than i thought. there is more than one. bones are displaced. they tried to pull it into place today and put a cast on then will xray in 10 days and may need to put in pins. i saw a great woman today so that was one bright spot.

i was so frustrated with dressing today that i cried. big baby.


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I'm so sorry for your fall Donaleen! I just want to second the homeopathic remedy Arnica for pain from injury. You can find it now in many grocery stores and pharmacies and it is very inexpensive and safe. You don't need a prescription..just off the shelf.

Also, take lots of vitamin D3...it will help your bones to heal.
I hope you have a speedy and full recovery!


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Thanks, I think. Yep, the bruise is movin' on, and so will you. It really does look better.

The pain and the cast are a great PIA in dressing at first, but you'll get the hang of it. And pretty soon the pain will be gone, and just the cast is the PIA. And it really won't be long before the cast is behind you, too. Then you'll be stiff a while, and that will be gone. Piece of cake. One thing at a time.

Can you put your bra on by yourself? Major milestone!

FWIW, I had a wrist pinned once with a thing that looked like it belonged in Frankenstein's head. Made a great hit with my seventh graders. "Can I touch it, MsV? Will it hurt if I wiggle it?" I was a hit at the airport scanners, too, in more ways than one.

Have some comfort food, watch a good movie, and marvel at the resilience of us Human Beans.


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So sorry to hear. Sometimes the worst pain is the bills. I understand. We have the same insurance as you. With what has gone on with my health in the past couple of years I now just say...it is what it is and keep on going. Take care and heal. Let the rest go. It is what it is.


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thanks everybody again. i knocked on the woman's door and she was really nice and agreed her insurance should pay. it's always nice when people are good to deal with.

i just got back from a nice walk. boy am i wary of sidewalks!


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oh, and my whitehaven sink came. so cool. dh hasn't had any time for cabinet work though.


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So glad that the homeowner was nice, and that your sink arrived.

Hope the healing goes well for you.


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Double great news!
Hope you continue to heal quickly!


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Oh no! I am so sorry this happened to you. I fell on a neighbor's sidewalk (wasn't their fault, I was stupid) and broke my ulna also. I remember the pain being so bad I thought I was going to throw up afterward. You being able to go pound on a door is impressive.

I wish I had read this Thursday, I would have told you to have them put a long strand of yarn in the cast and tie it on the outside, so you could scratch those itchies. Chop sticks work too but those are not recommended.


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oh, marti8a, i wish it, too... already itching.


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Oh, donaleen, I feel your pain. I fell UP the concrete stairs on Oct 27th--carrying a big bag of potting soil. I tripped on a garden hose (which should not have been draped across the sidewalk at the bottom of the stairs) and then my other foot caught in the next step. Although I managed to release my interlocked wrists (to keep the bag from slipping), I lurched forward and did a face plant on top step. I broke my nose and had two black eyes which are just finally invisible. I scraped my forehead and skinned the nose on the brick edging. What a mess. Ice is your friend. I applied ice 20 minutes on and off for two days and whenever it hurt after than--but no more than 20 minutes at a time.
At 63 it was the first fall where I didn't roll with it and come out fine. So I felt the indignity of aging on top of the injury.
It affects one's confidence, too. I am wary of falling whenever I walk now.
Heal well. Rest. Take care.


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Ouch. Hope you're doing a bit better. Keep on top of the pain meds - don't try to be a hero and wait. It works best if you can get the pain under control and then do a pre-emptive strike. I would stagger the pain meds - ibuprofen and then a few hours later a different pain med (aspirin or acetaminophen)- I found that staggering it helps to keep things under control a bit better.

Also, for itches, when I was a little girl, I had a broken arm twice...my mom took a straw and filled it with baby powder and blew it into the cast - it really, really helped with the itchiness. We also used a fork to scratch (VERY carefully), but if we would have had chopsticks, I bet those might have worked better...regardless as to what instrument you try to use, be very careful.

Hope you're feeling better and it's great to know that the neighbor is turning it into her homeowners...health insurance is such a horrible thing for so many of us now.


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it comforts me to hear your stories. mornings are the worst. swelling, pain. today is the first day it feels like bone pain, deep.


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feel better....you will....just recently,over an 18 month period,5 family members fell and had: fracture tibia/fibia requiring titanium rod....broken back....2 broken wrists requiring plates and screws...and another broken tibia requiring plate and screws. things are just strange and weird sometimes...be thankful for your good doctor[get the best you can find-there's a lot of technique with hardware placement]...As so often said, and it sounds trite,but it could have been worse. All the best in your healing.


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Donaleen, I'm so sorry to hear about your fall. Thank heavens the homeowner was pleasant and seems to have accepted responsibility. I hope you take it easy and heal quickly. It sounds like you have a great DH who will help you with all those tasks which are suddenly so difficult due to your injury.


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On the plus side, at least you had cause to trip. I will share my last fall for your entertainment.

I was home alone getting ready to leave for vacation the next day. I was headed down to the basement to change out the laundry. Since I was in a good mood, I was just bopping along to a song in my head, happy as a clam. Then I missed a stair just before the bottom. I swear it was just like when people describe time standing still. I can clearly remember making and abandoning several plans to catch myself, then resigning to just landing where I may. It went kind if like "crap! Maybe if I get my foot...nope, not gonna happen...oh! I can grab the...nope...what about landing on...nope...oh hell, just gotta let it happen, too late"

The worst part was we had just cleaned out the furnace storage area, so there was stuff piled everywhere waiting to be discarded or moved. And of course I fell into a big pile of stuff. I did pretty well, considering how close I ca,e to whacking my head on the door jamb. Just a wrenched hip and a very nasty bruise on my thigh. That bruise must have been very deep, it hurt just to touch and was raised for over a week. This was July, and I can still see a faint dark spot where it was.

Guess I should pay more attention given how clumsy I tend to be! Looking back, it is a bit funny. Hope you get a smile reconstructing that ridiculous chain of events in your head, it must have been quite a scene to see!


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well at least you have a sense of humor about it... i don't.... not yet anyway.


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DH fell off the top of a 6 ft ladder... Standing on the part that says "This is NOT a step," he turned to reach something while up top, then forgot he'd turned, and stepped down where there was no rungs. He fell on his face on the concrete, and knocked his shoulder out of the socket. It was 10 days before he went to the dr and found out he'd broken his shoulder socket and needed surgery, including screws. They gave him quite the combo of pain meds he was happy to have for the first week or so. It seems outrageous and negligent to have sent you home without reading the X-ray and treating you, including a prescription for pain help.

Great that the woman is so easy to deal with regarding the insurance and help with your bills. Take care of yourself!


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i think a lot of you have had worse accidents than mine, and worse pain. i didn't even think it was so bad when they realigned my wrist before they put the cast on. i am lucky that way.

the worst bits for me are 1)how limited i am in what i can do and 2) i really hate dealing with the medical establishment. they treat you like a criminal and are way more invasive than the situation merits. for example, even though we were paying on the spot they were very concerned that i didn't have my id. why...it was just an xray.

i take absolute responsibility for my health. that means i want advice from experts but i want to make the decisions, not just do whatever they say. my body, my money, my decisions. but they get indignant when i question why they need the information they ask for. i don't accept that they need it just because it's on the form. i need a clear reason before i am willing to supply what i consider to be private and sensitive information. they think they are entitled to anything they ask for. so it's always a fight because i do not see it that way.


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Hi donaleen,

I agree with williamsem... at least you have a good excuse for the injuries. And maybe a good story to go with the cast once the pain and frustration have settled down a bit and you can laugh about it.

For comparison, I managed to break my toe 3 weeks ago and have no excuse at all. I was walking from the bathroom back to my bed in the middle of the night and bonked my toe into the corner of the bedpost. Crunch. My podiatrist said: "Damn, you don't even have a good story. Make up a better one!"

I had a cast on my lower leg for 6 weeks last fall for a broken foot. (Bad bike accident.) It was awful for the first week or so, but I got used to it and got frustrated. I think you will too.

One bit of unsolicited advice: If the pain gets bad and tylenol isn't doing the trick, don't be afraid to ask for something stronger like vicodin until it settles down. Especially if you need surgery to put pins in!

I hope it stops hurting soon!

Laura


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Oh, oh! Stories for when you get tired of telling people what happened when they ask about the cast. (This will be after the eye returns to normal, because at the moment that is much more spectacular.):

My MIL had polio in 1949 and lost the use of her left arm (also a lot of muscle in her torso, but that didn't show). Her arm was in a molded plastic cradle thing and hung around her neck with a web strap. It really didn't look like a cast and sling, but many people assumed she'd broken her arm and felt the need to ask about it. I heard her tell any number of stories, but my favorite was that she fell out of a tree. She was in her 70s!

My teenage son slammed his finger in a door and had this monster bandage wrapped around the finger and anchored around his wrist. He was really embarrassed to say he'd slammed it in a door. As it was oozing blood on that first day back from the ER he told a couple of people that he'd been shot vs being a klutz who couldn't get a door closed without smashing his finger. We told him he couldn't say that!! That one only works if you're a teenage boy with like-minded friends.

And finally, did you know you can remove your own cast? Not that I recommend it, you understand. When I was a teacher in a private school, I had an 8th grade girl who aspired to being a doctor. When it was time for her cast to come off (like yours), for whatever reason her parents didn't get her to the doctor in a timely fashion. One day she just borrowed a pair of scissors (not from me!) and hacked it off. I didn't even know that was possible!

It's never too early to come up with a much more interesting story than tripping over a crack in the sidewalk. ;-)


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My daughter's cast finally just fell off from her activities. Your student may not have had much to cut through. We have removed stitches before too, on ourselves, not the kids. Mom was an RN and had the tools/knowledge.

RN/Trailrunner....my doc gave me a similar cocktail, it does work. IB and tylenol though wthout the aspirin. Actually aspirin works great for me on it's own. And yes on a regular schedule rather than waiting til any pain shows up.

Don....wishing you fast healing. Are they still considering pins?

Been there and know how disconnected you can feel in all that was normal. As for stories, when 3/4 of my face looked like yours, there were a couple of occasions that perfect strangers felt the need to discuss domestic abuse with me. They were darn serious. I just let them ramble, thinking they had their own problems/needs to deal with. Didn't even try to explain the real event.


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I completely understand your reluctance to give sensitive information. The part that's hard to understand unless you are "behind the scenes" in the medical field is there is all sorts of fraud that can occur, and if at any point medical insurance, homeowners insurance, lawyers, or other officialdom might get involved, that sort of documentation can become important, or the lack of that information can really muck things up. It's hard to predict at the onset, and in some cases might be very hard to do after the fact (could be frustrating). And from experience I can attest that even a simple piece of missing information is sometimes very hard to get after the fact for a variety of reasons, such as disconnected phone number, inability to leave a message at the number provided, refusal to return calls, etc. Plus if you are a new patient somewhere, collecting the information up front makes future visits easier, especially if they might involve surgery or be on an emergency basis where you cannot provide needed info.

Any place providing medical care must protect any information you provide. Disclosing it to anyone other than for payment (insurance), treatment (medical staff) or operations (required reporting, generally de-identified to government or quality agencies) needs your permission. Any use not outlined in their notice of privacy practices (required to be provided the first time you go there) is not allowed.

Often the front end staff may not realize why some things are needed. They are far removed from where insurance is processed, legal requests are reviewed and handled, and law enforcement actions. Often problems come back to them as "remember you MUST do this" without nessicarily explaining why it's important.


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Ok, so last week I was climbing on a stool in the garage to get a very heavy STBX container off a top shelf. I misbalanced and fell backwards. I also freaked in slow motion. Luckily, I just landed backwards on my workbench, with the container on top of me. After the mental check of broken? bleeding? can I move? I realized I'd "just" landed on a hammer, so I have a bull's eye bruise on my bummy. Someday I'll tell you about a yoga move where I broke my middle toe. THAT takes skill.

However, today I was thinking about you and just popped in to see how you were doing? I'm sure you're achy and feeling a bit stiff, still.
Hang in there and get your bills covered.


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thank you all for continuing to have an interest in my situation. mornings continue to be the worst... stiff and achy. i guess that aspirin and arnica does help quite a bit because it gets much better after they kick in.

I am searching for things i can do. i can walk, though it is quite rainy this weekend. still, it is nice to get out. i can watch videos and i can read. however, i am a person who likes to work with my hands so i am missing that a lot. even typing has to be one handed. although i can move my fingers on my injured arm, it causes me pain.

i found a show called 1900 house on youtube which is a reality show where a family lives the life of that time. it was a hard life for women living a life of drudgery in very restrictive clothing...corsets and long skirts. men had it much better. of course they don't have to endure the terrible pollution of that time.

my dh continues to take good care of me. i hate that my care takes so much of his time away from the kitchen cabinet building.

in about a week they will check my wrist to see if the cast is sufficient or if it will require pins. i hope i won't need pins because that would mean a longer time in the cast, more expense, and more of the hated interaction with western medicine.


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I had also wanted to tell you, mostly, but forgot, that my dh was completely scared and convinced his shoulder would never be the same again... that it would always hurt, or worse, always be weak and have far less range of motion. We are only 5 months after he broke it and he's already back to full speed, and because of physical therapy, probably has better range of motion than before.


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rhome410, that is awfully nice to hear. i am worried about full recovery.

my wrist is really hurting right now...just when i thought i was so lucky not to have much pain.


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rhome410, that is awfully nice to hear. i am worried about full recovery.

my wrist is really hurting right now...just when i thought i was so lucky not to have much pain.


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OT--but recovery will come. More than you want to know about. . .

Yep, I'll second Rhome's message. Recovery will come. Just takes a while.

My last break was a wrist when I was blown over by a gust of wind at Canyon de Chelly in Arizona. The whole incident was a wonderful experience (well, sort of.) I was taken to the Navaho Indian Reservation Hospital by a Navaho ambulance that served something like a 200 mile radius of tiny secondary roads. Lovely women driving the ambulance. The only doctor, who was from Maine and was flown in for two weeks on, two weeks off duty, set the wrist as well as he could. The main nurse was from New Zealand!! on a short stint in the US, and the second nurse was a nice young man from Ohio or some place in his first week there.

As I was waiting for the doctor to return to check the X-rays after setting my wrist when he looked in, apologized, and said, "I'm sorry for the delay, but we have a baby here trying real hard to die. I'll be back as soon as I can." We could see a cluster of people around a stretcher down the hall.

As I waited I talked to the NZ nurse--wonderful to hear her reason for being there and her take on the desert and the reservation--and to the Ohio (or wherever he was from) nurse who was so astounded by everything.

The doctor returned, smiled happily at the x-ray, and wanted to send me to the nearest full service hospital (in Gallup) to have them double check it. We decided to just drive on home--near Louisville, KY.

I got home, saw my physician, then a surgeon, then got the wrist reset (the bones had slipped) and pinned. It hurt a good bit for longer than I expected, and was weaker than I expected when the cast came off. But now, three years or so after, there is NO difference between one and the other.

And I wouldn't trade you my wonderful experience for anything. If I had to break a wrist, it was an eye-opener. I strongly recommend a strong wind gust in Canyon de Chelly instead of of crumby sidewalk!

Anyway, it will be fine. Like yours, the ends of the ulna had slipped past each other and the other bone's joint was stressed.

Be patient. It will mend. And meanwhile, I replied to your question on the other thread about the pull-out towel rack under the sink.
Sandra


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Your eye reports make me laugh. And it looks better every time. If I ever get two or three inches eye to eye from you, I will know you in a minute, with or without bruises!


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Donnaleen- it is a slow recovery but hang in there.
The colors will continue to turn lovely colors before they fade.

I fractured my hand a few years ago and did need surgery. I asked the surgeon about the precautions and he said- non weight bearing and don't fall. I skied a few cross country ski races with one pole. When I graduated from the surgeon, I gave him a picture of me skiing in the race. He still uses it as a teaching tool with his residents. The bones healed fine but it did take time!

I was fortunate that I didn't have too much pain. Also with the surgery, I was in a splint vs a cast which was nice.


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that's a great story, bellsmom. those pictures make me realize something has happened to my eyebrows. they are sort of missing. i have receding eyebrows! i didn't know that could happen.

i've also become a sidewalk cop...when i walk, i notice bad sidewalks and i reported four of them today. see what i mean?

here is me when i am not banged up.


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Bellsmom, I envy you your trip to Canyon de Chelly (but not the broken wrist). The photos I've seen of it are beautiful. I didn't make it there on my last trip to Arizona, though I did manage to see the Grand Canyon, Antelope Canyon, and Monument Valley, plus Bryce Canyon up in Utah. Next time.

a2gemini, that's interesting about the splint vs. cast. One of my office-mates broke his wrist a few weeks ago and had the opposite reaction. He needed surgery and pins, and came back to work a couple weeks later with an enormous splint on his forearm. He and was super-happy to get it replaced with a cast a couple of days ago. That's mostly because the cast is smaller and lighter, I think.

Laura


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okay, i have to complain about my dh.

today when we were walking to the library discussing what activities i can still do, he told me he was worried about me sitting around too much since i've been hurt and that maybe i should walk around the house and dust, even if i wasn't very effective, just to give me an activity.

this didn't go over too well with me. i know he wants the best for me, but that just was not the right thing to say. esecially, as i pointed out, that he turned me down twice yesterday when i wanted to go walking.

my dh, really is wonderful, especially for a man... but then, as i tell him there is a low standard for men. men!!


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If someone suggested that I do housework as exercise, I think I'd have to smack them. With the cast. :-)

Laura


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To appease the gods--a link to CEF's tile reference

I am worried the gods that be here on GW will take this off Kitchens and stick it in conversations. I promise my next post will be about kitchens. In fact, I will close this post with a reference about kitchens.
Donaleen--I KNOW you are healing. You made me laugh loudly. WHY wouldn't DH want to take you walking!!?? Especially now that, as a sidewalk cop, you'd have your notebook and phone out every twenty feet to report unsafe cracks and crevices to the powers that oversee sidewalk safety. (And everyone knows that dusting is great aerobic exercise.)

lwerner
Go to Canyon de Chelly in October, not in spring when the winds and dust storms swirl. Splurge on a private, guided trip instead of a van trip into the canyon. But bus trip is better than none. Lovely place. Good memories. I've seen the others, too and loved them. I want to spend a week in Monument Valley.
On topic:
Everyone--
did you see CEF's post about the wonderful tile? Link below:

Here is a link that might be useful: Fine Art Tileworks--click on catalog to see products


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Wow...You were on a bumpy sidewalk, but DH has himself on thin ice!


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bellsmom and rhome410, you are hysterical.

that tile link is for Lake Oswego, just outside Portland, where I am.


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cast finally OFF...

http://spitnvinegar.blogspot.com/2012/12/my-cast-is-off.html

Here is a link that might be useful: cast off

This post was edited by donaleen on Sat, Dec 29, 12 at 12:24


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Great News!


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Yay! Now you can start the new year off right!


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Exciting - Ask your doctor about some hand therapy to help you regain full function.
Happy New Year!


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I was just thinking about you today! Thank you for posting an update on your wrist. Enjoy!


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Ah, great news. I finally feel 100% recovered, too. It took way to long to get back to normal--hence, my increased awareness of the decrement of aging. Being 63 has its benefits, but falling and recovering from falls are not among the perks.


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donaleen, Hooray! Glad the cast is off! I hope you will be back to your old complete self real soon!

dretutz glad you are 100%, too!


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Thanks everybody... and here is the requested smile (Marcolo). It's hard to smile taking your own picture.


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Glad to hear you are on the mend. You look great.


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