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looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Posted by mamacat74 (My Page) on
Wed, Sep 26, 12 at 15:43

Hi all, I'd love some feedback as I've been struggling over the layout for my new kitchen for months. I didn't get very far with a KD, and I'm feeling like there is some brilliant perfect solution that we're just not seeing.
Our challenge is finding a solution that meets all our needs:
1) adequate wall cabinets. (I feel I need 5 feet of linear space for all our dishes and glasses.), while maintaining our semi-open feel and the large windows.
2) I really want an induction cooktop, but I don't really like the style of the slide in ranges available. We don't have access to gas, don't want to install propane, and who actually likes cooking on an electric top?
3) I'm not willing to put the cooktop in the island because of the myriad problems with that design. The only plans I seem to like put it in a corner, but then I'm not sure we really want the oven below it because of access issues.
4) the main sink needs to be at the window. It's currently in our oversized island, and DH and I both hate it there. It took us a year of living here before we stopped intuitively looking for it at the window.
5) we want to maintain as much of an open area to the DR, FR and to the hall as possible. Our hall is really a front to back entry, with French doors out the back to the deck (access to the grill) and kitchen garden. How many times has every else been halfway through cooking and realized you forgot to pick the parsley, chives, etc? Easy assess to my outdoor spice cabinet would be helpful to maintain... Plus I like the light that openness will provide
I'm posting the general shape of our room: 16 X 14. The window will be 5 ft. we'd like it to be as centered on the outside wall as possible, but can be tweaked a little one direction or the other...
Will post some options/ideas too.

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RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Option 1:
What I like - overall symmetry, extra space on either side of cooktop, fridge located in place with landing counters, and out of the way but easy to get to. Not sure how practical is it really to get cabinets close to a corner hood...

What I don't like - if the oven is a wall microwave combo, then the cooktop area will be too closed off. If we do it as an under counter wall oven, where do we put the microwave?

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Option 2:
What I like: Again, overall symmetry, especially into DR, flow would probably work well, best option for wall cabinets, but:

What I don't like: Corner fridge, we'd have to come up with some asthetically pleasing way to deal with the corner hood at the pennisula, and I just feel like the working area intuitively wants to be the upper left rather than the right. We lose 6 inches off the island. Easier to do if the island is one level, but we were considering a tiered island so you can't see the messy kitchen from the DR.

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Option 3:

Played a little with a different pantry option, thinking it might make up for loss of upper cabinetry. This pantry has a 24" opening for door, 15" deep shelves. It's like the one I grew up with and loved, but most people seem to be doing cabinet pantries these days.

This work flow seems like it would be pretty good, and we keep a fairly wide opening on the right into the FR despite the wall ovens there, but we lose the extra counter space without that right side peninsula. Lost the extra 6 inches either side of the corner cooktop to keep it from getting too close to the sink.

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Easy to see why you want to keep the kitchen open to the hall/garden access. It sounds very nice :)

I think the corner range is causing some of the problem...but the fridge placement seems to be the real challenge. If you have the fridge so far away from the sink and range (with no prep sink) the island becomes a barrier island.

So, what if you put the range on one wall, the sink and fridge on the other...and put the oven/microwave across from the fridge? The microwave is still somewhat handy to the fridge and you have easy access from the island (baking area?) to the oven. What do you think?

From Cottage house plans

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

I like LL's layout! Can you live with the oven located there? If so, I think the rest of it cooks better than your alternatives.

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

I agree with lavendar_lass regarding the corner range and I like her design much better than any of the other options. I might also consider putting the refrigerator where the pantry is in lavendar_lass's drawing.

RE: looking for that elucive perfect layout...

Thanks for the input! I havent really wanted the fridge along that wall because of how much space it takes up and how visually prominant it is, but DH has been thinking along those lines for a little while. I've been resistant partly I think because that's where it is currently, but I hate my current kitchen. It might end up feeling really different with the rest of the layout changes. I've been trying hard to get the corner cooktop to work because I love how they look, but we just might not be able to swing it. I don't think I'd like the oven being so far from a full counter, though, since that's not a great landing for hot things in that design. The island was supposed to have a prep sink, but that got cut when the island got narrower. Would that alter your feelings about functionality?
The cooktop wall used to be shorter, with more openness to the deck. Now that we've made it longer anyway, it very well may be the better place for the stove. I hesitate, although lavender makes good suggestions, because that plan just seems to be a little less interesting. But I need function over form, as they say.....
Prickly pear: the fridge is in that other location on some of the other options. What did you think of those?

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