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Any help appreciated - sizing semi-flush ceiling lights

Posted by nineteenoeight (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 7, 12 at 17:13

I posted this on the Lighting Forum, but it seems pretty quiet over there - if anyone has successfully installed schoolhouse lights, or has a suggestion, my kitchen measurements are below the picture:
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Hi, I am stressing out about the size of our kitchen ceiling lights - I've settled on schoolhouse lights, either semi-flush mount or short pendant.
Is there a formula to figure out size of light?
The ceiling is just under 9ft high.
The kitchen is L-shaped - one leg is 11'x 13', the other is 13' by 7'. There will be three ceiling lights altogether. There are two stained glass minipendants over the peninsula and one over the sink. There are cans also for when I want to work, over the counters.
I'm looking at 9" diameter lights vs 12" diameter lights - perhaps one 12" in the wider leg, two 9" in the narrower - or maybe all three 9"?

And maybe stick with semi-flush not to compete with pendants?

Arg! There's a 25% restock fee if I choose wrong. :(


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RE: Any help appreciated - sizing semi-flush ceiling lights

Post a floor plan.


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Thanks, hollysprings:
Here's where the lights are placed (circles are the 3 overhead school house lights, squares represent the can lights over the counters):
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And here's an early sketch that might be easier to see as far as the dimensions:
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Are the stained glass mini-pendants "pretty" lights or are they bright enough to be functional.


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Hi, blfenton
The pendants are able to hold 100w lightbulbs, so functional.
Thanks!


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Nine--I'm right there with you! These lights have caused me no end of stress, waaaaaayyy more than any other decision. I had almost settled on the Jefferson (is that yours?) when I realized my 8-ft. ceilings will need a flush-mount fixture. I have a 15 and 1/2 by 17 and 1/2 space now--it seems rather huge since the new wall is in but the room is still empty. I was just talking to the electrician and he suggests that apart from one fixture over the table on one side of the space and two pendants over the sink, five more fixtures should be plenty of light. Seems like a lot to me but he's quite experienced and had been good about my "no recessed lights" rule. He did say I should have three bulbs in each one (except for the sink lights,) so that they are bright enough; if they are too bright, I can always put lower wattage bulbs in them. I spoke with a couple of nice women at Rejuvenation (haven't tried Schoolhouse yet,) and one of them suggested 14 or 16-inch shades which can accommodate three bulbs each. Have you spoken to your electrician? He/she should know how far light will throw. Let me know how you're doing so I can calm down too!! Sweet Angie has been very kind to help me with this as well as my cabinet angst in the beginning--maybe she'll chime in.


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I have been waffling between Rejuvenation's schoolhouse lights and Hudson Valley - the pic above is of Hudson Valley. Half the cost - but a 25% restock fee if I need to exchange, whereas Rejuvenation I think will exchange no prob.

But I think the 12" is too big, so the 14 & up just wouldn't work for me. I'm almost ready to ask the lighting store if I can bring home a floor model just to hold up...

I did get can lights, I have suffered through too many years in a dark kitchen so wanted to be able to shine light on my (dark- soapstone) counters. So I compromised.
I'm more worried about the look than the amount of light, actually - the Hudson Valley will take 75 W bulb in the small one (9") and 100w in the medium (12"). Seems like three fixtures times 75 watts for overhead/non-work light is fine...it just worries me if the look is wrong.

I'm probably not helping you calm down! It sounds to me that your electrician is on top of things, and knows what will work. Rejuvenation has a low-profile schoolhouse shade, that might work for your ceilings...


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Well, I've eked out more decision time, which is helpful. I called Rejuvenation yet again to ask about dimensions--I find their website sooooo slow and incomplete. Wouldn't that be so great to bring home a floor model?? My imagination isn't doing its job and just when I think I'm set on a style, I panic and think a bunch of them up there will look stupid and crowded. R. lady told me the basic formula is 1 watt per square foot of space. I haven't figured that out yet, but that seems easy enough to remember if it is correct. May I ask the name of low-profile shade you're referring to?

Are you any closer to making your decision, Nine? I wish I could help you more.


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It's just called "Low Profile Schoolhouse Shade"
Here's a link:
http://www.rejuvenation.com/catalog/products/b7389?category_id=4dfa5a7 d9a86656f4b00000f

Here is a link that might be useful: low profile shade


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Well, I decided to go with Rejuvenation over Hudson Valley and the price for their low end fixture is in same ballpark. Best - no return fee (aside from shipping).
But I think it will work.
Good luck to you, hope you find one there that will work for you!


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Thanks, Nine. Yes, that's a very good reason to go with R. and I will probably do the same. I'm sure they will look lovely! Will you show us a picture when they are installed?


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