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cabinet rec. similar in to henrybuilt?

rockybird
13 years ago

I am considering henrybuilt cabs. in a mid century modern home. They are actually more than I would like to spend, but beautiful. I have looked at kerf and I am also considering Viola Park, the cheaper line of hb. Are there other cabs. I should consider as well that are at or below the hb price range and would work in a mcm home?

Comments (28)

  • daveinorlado
    13 years ago

    I would suggest you give an idea of pricing per foot or some other rule of thumb when you ask what alternatives are their to the brands you mention. I would guess not many people know the base price to search their own history of expierence to suggest something with relevance.

    I personally am not familar with Henrybuilt. I found their website a little less intuitive to get a quick feeling of what they sell.

    Anyhow I can tell you that North American Cabinets in Canada (go figure!)has an endless product line that is compareable in style to Henrybuilt. I sell their products. Lifetime warranty and most kitchens are $400 per foot and up high side is close to $1,000 per foot for stand alone furniture. Keep in mind that in the kitchen and bath industry when you compare linear foot prices you do not seperate upper and lower a 10x10 kitchen is 20 linear feet not 40. I have not personall priced the modern door styles in a full kitchen to get a true idea on where they stand.

    Here is a link that might be useful: NAC website

  • rockybird
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    thank you for the replies!

    David, those are beautiful cabs. I dont know what the hb price per sq. foot is. I just have an idea of what I can afford to spend. HB is working on a plan and I may have to order it in two phases if I go that route. Thank you for your suggestions.

    Kaismom. Wow, your cabs sound beautiful! Do you have pics? From what I have heard, Bulthaup and Snaidero are more $$$ than HB. Is this what you found? I have IKEA in my current home, and they look great. This new home I bought is in an expensive neighborhood and I dont know if IKEA would be a good idea. For instance, a house one door down is for sale for 4.4 million. An architect I might hire is suggesting IKEA, but I just dont know. I am afraid I may take them out in a couple years and it will be wasted money.

    I was thinking VP might be a good alternative and compromise on price. I do want slab. I may want walnut, but def. dont want shaker style. HB is a huge splurge for me, and it may end up over my budget, but I have loved their cabs. for years. I will look into the other brands that you suggest. Thank you for the info. as to the construction. That is a huge help!

  • daveinorlado
    13 years ago

    If everyone would discuss the numbers the relevance of the GW would go way up for educational purposes. Taking a total cost and dividing it by the linear feet of the project gives context to money spent. Then you will get relevant answers to what was the cost of a brand name. Brand name alone does not equate to more or less cost. Door style and options drive things up and down. If everyone would put cost divided by feet you would learn much more about your comparisons for the benifit of everyone. this should be a point of regular discussion when indivduals are trying to compare prices and costs to see what products they want to seriously compare.

  • rockybird
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Unfortunately, I do not have an estimate from them so I do not know the price per sq. foot. I just sent them the kitchen dimensions this weekend. Hence my question as to other similarly priced cabinets (or preferably) cheaper that others who considered HB also looked at. I agree with you on the price per sq. foot. It would be great to see a published list of pp sq ft ranges for cab. makers. This could save time for those looking for cabinets and those selling cabinets.

  • kaismom
    13 years ago

    Rockybird,
    10 years ago, I thought of doing the kitchen. At that time, I also looked at Neff and Downsview. I can't remember what else. Plain and Fancy, Crystal, Ruff, Smallbone are some of the other companies that I looked at the time... I did not do the kitchen then. Then I walked into HB showroom the first year they opened in Seattle and I have been lusting these cabinets ever since. So I have finally ordered from them. I also have the budget for these cabs. They are definitely expensive. But similar in price point for similar quality cabinets.

    They are building my powder room vanity, fireplace storage cabinetry and a small desk area in my kitchen. These will be installed in Sept. All in all, I am paying a small fortune.

    I wanted a certain esthetic and quality of cabinets in my house. I wanted to emulate European sensibility, look, quality in the cabinets. I wanted a heft to the drawers when they open. I remember opening drawers in an open house about 10 years ago and seeing Blum Tandembox Intivo with glasses for dividers in drawers. I had never seen anything like that and I was just blown away how "cool" that was. I was recently at a relative's house in Germany and they had Blum servo drive for their garbage drawer. Again, it is amazing form and function to behold.

    I wanted that type of esthetic, form and function for my cabinets. This meant that I could not do standard US cabinets with dove tailed hardwood drawers. So my options were Euro cabinets and sompanies like HB, Downsview and Neff....

    The special projects division more or less copied HB. The esthetics are nearly identical, ie continuous SS pulls etc. But if it prices out okay... Oh well. If I had found the company before I ordered the cabs from HB, I would definitely have looked at them seriously for price comparison.

    I ended up getting VG Fir because my house has alot of fir for trim and moulding. I wanted the house to feel a part of Pacific NW. The house is somewhat reminscent of PNW modern with transitional flair.

    For example, Pedini and some Euro cabs were cheaper but no VG Fir option. Once you have some ideas of cabinet layout, then you can have the companies give you a reasonable estimate. In the end, you are buying the design service and the esthetics of certain look at that price point.

    I wish you the best.

  • sadiebrooklyn
    13 years ago

    Kaismom - I would be very interested to hear about your experience working with Henrybuilt. We just received our quote and I am wondering how much negotiating room there is in the price. If you want to email me just go to my member page and click on the link!

    sadie

  • sochi
    13 years ago

    Henrybuilt walnut kitchens were a major inspiration for me, as were some other European cabinet makers (my tastes run rather like kaismom's). I have walnut slab cabs, but I ended up going custom. I know it seems counter-intuitive that custom could be cheaper, but you never know. I would at least try to get quotes from a couple of small, recommended local cabinet-makers. Custom is often competitive, esp. with higher-end cabinet companies like HB. And a talented cabinet maker can deliver a very high end cabinet.

  • isletwoisle
    13 years ago

    Rockybird - we were also inspired by Henrybuilt, knew we couldn't afford it, and looked into Viola Park but ultimately went with custom and are estatic. We never received firm quotes from Viola Park but my calculations (on their website if I recall) came out with a number that at the time was more than I thought we should spend ($20k), which led me to just go our own way. Our cabinetmaker was absolutely fabulous (recommended by GC), and although he'd never done anything as "modern", his skills enabled him to match the quality of HB (we think!)

    What can I say about costs, we have 33 linear feet of cabinetry, but 13' x 3' of that is a custom island, including a curve which we splurged on. So there's no way to really compare apples to apples with another kitchen but we paid $25,000 for labor/materials on our cabinetry (NOT including 15% for GC, and the 9% sales tax we have the joy of paying in the state of Washington). It's interesting that we paid more than my original Viola Park estimate, but at some point in the process (read: curve) we just went for it.

    Materials are also obviously a factor in the budget. Our materials were partial laminate (sourced the exact same product as Henrybuilt uses), and riftcut white oak, all over Europly. We have the Blum Tandem undermount with Blu-motion on all drawers.

    I've never posted a photo on GW, but here goes with one, and if this works and you're interested I'm happy to try and post more (of the island). My bottom line comment is that custom might be the best route, depending on where you are and if you can find someone you like. For us it just worked out marvelously -- we had a great GC, he had a great rapport/relationship with the cabinetmaker, we were able to get everything we wanted exactly as we wanted, and everyone was totally pleased in the end. I have no doubt Henrybuilt would be fabulous to work with; their work is just stunning. But there are options.

    Good luck!
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/52683637@N07/4857483819/

  • abea
    10 years ago

    Hi Rockybird,

    Did you end up doing your kitchen with VP? We are considering it, but we don't have too many actual reviews.

    It would be great to talk with someone who did ir.

    Thanks!

  • abea
    10 years ago

    Hi Rockybird,

    Did you end up doing your kitchen with VP? We are considering it, but we don't have too many actual reviews.

    It would be great to talk with someone who did ir.

    Thanks!

  • feisty68
    10 years ago

    I love the Viola Park look, and the Hansen kitchen look.

    But, budget says IKEA with custom doors for me. I'm sure Henrybuilt, VP, and Hansen are all worth it though, for the swoon-factor :) .

  • rockybird
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    I ended up having the cabinets custom made. They turned out terrific and were much cheaper. If you do choose VP, will you post how you like them and pics as I also had trouble finding reviews. Here's a pic of my custom built cabs. I really recommend this route.

    You can see how pretty the wood is:

  • rockybird
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    oops! double post

    This post was edited by rockybird on Fri, Feb 28, 14 at 8:49

  • feisty68
    10 years ago

    Rockybird - stunning!

  • abea
    10 years ago

    Gorgeous!!!

  • rockybird
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Thank you so much! :)

  • Waxon
    9 years ago

    Hey @Rockybird, are you in the NY area? Can you share your cabinet makers URL?


  • rockybird
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Hi Waxon, I'm in AZ. I dont think the cabinet maker has a url. He is local.


  • jdesign_gw
    9 years ago

    I've done a few Henerybuilt style kitchens. They do put out a nice product. High quality materials and a high price. Not impossible to copy. I did an Architects whole office in that style. Made the same handles as well. Not the best photos though.


  • hidesertgirl5432
    8 years ago

    Love your handles! Where did you get them? Did you have them made?

  • hidesertgirl5432
    8 years ago

    Does anyone know if Henry Built uses 1/2" material on their countertops? From the photo's the countertop material looks thinner than 3/4"? Wonder what material it is?

  • jdesign_gw
    8 years ago

    hidesertgirl

    Yes, I had the handles made. Re: counter material. Most of what I've seen on HB kitchens has been 3/4" material like Ceasarstone, Paperstone, Corian etc. It my look thinner in some pictures or it could actually be 1/2" thick I don't know what photos you are looking at. 1/2" material is being used a lot in contemporary European kitchen nowadays. There are several choices Stilestone is one of the most popular.

  • jasonwalder
    8 years ago

    Any chance you would like to make some more of those handles? We are doing a kitchen now, and would love to have that style.

  • jdesign_gw
    8 years ago

    How many do you need?

  • jasonwalder
    8 years ago
    I would need fourteen
    (14) 3"-4"w and six (6) 8"-10"w, otherwise a total of twenty six (26)
    3"-4" pulls.
  • beachem
    8 years ago

    Jdesign are you in the LA/OC area? If so can you activate your email option.

  • jasonwalder
    8 years ago
    East coast. Hit me at jason@sagatovhomes.com. Thanks!