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White Painted Shaker Cabinet Pricing Comparison

Posted by kompy (My Page) on
Fri, May 11, 12 at 16:53

For my own personal use, I priced out a wall and base cabinet in a few of my cabinet lines to see where each line stood on price. These prices do not include any manufacturer promotions currently running. All include freight costs. I looked up...with a bit of difficulty, the prices of IKEA. I thought there would be more SKUs and doorstyles.

Shaker door style
Maple Wood
White Paint
Drawer guides: Whatever comes standard
No upgrades
W3630
B36
Note: All are full overlay...except with Shiloh you can choose from full overlay or inset. Both are the same price right now. Ikea, Debut, KraftMaid and Plain & Fancy, all have full extension, soft close drawers as a standard.

Cost to Homeowner:
$600 to $650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
$657 Debut Cabinetry: Oxford
$669 Medallion: Silverline Lancaster
$888 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)
$916 KraftMaid: Atwater
$963 KraftMaid: Huntington
$983 Medallion: Potter's Mill
$987 Showplace: Pendleton
$1494 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset

So for 24' Lin. Ft of cabinets, costs would be:
$5,352 Medallion Silverline Full Overlay
$7,104 Shiloh Inset
$11,952 P&F Inset

I realize, much of this could change from dealer to dealer and region to region. If you add another brand of cabinet, I can add it to the list. Also some brands are higher on the extras like accessories, moldings and custom modifications. For cost comps in your area and for your kitchen, you still must do the footwork. But maybe this will help somebody.


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RE: White Painted Shaker Cabinet Pricing Comparison

OMGosh kompy, this is awesome.

Can you do Wood-mode and Mouser too? Thank you for taking the time to do all of this homework for all of us. I couldn't begin to do this.

I have Wood-mode now, and I would love to find something beautiful but a little more budget friendly for my next house. Mouser looks really good at a local place here.


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Kompy,
I would like to participate with Woodmode Brookhaven greenfield and Pennville. Did you try to keep it to no upcharge doors? Did you finish sides? Is the base cabinet full height doors or a base with one drawer?


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455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay
570 River Run full overlay chinese
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (no paints on maple with them)
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple full overlay
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box


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Red lover, those are just the brands I have price books with. I'm a Kitchen Designer.

Mamadada, I priced each line with just the box and doors, maple and paint upcharges. No finished ends or any other add-ons or modifications.

And you're right, mamadada! I need to specify the B36. I completely forgot about that. Some lines only offer with 2 drawers and some offer both options. I suppose we should specify. You would THINK two top drawers would be more expensive. That's not what I am finding out though.

Thanks Davinorlando for your input. When I get a chance, I will update the list.


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Oops!

OMG, I feel like an idiot. I just looked at my prices and I quoted W3636, not W3630. Sorry....I will make changes to my prices, Dave!


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Drawers

One more thing: Drawer fronts are priced slab. Some brands don't give a choice so please note if they come standard with 5pc drawer fronts (matching doorstyle).

Also, if they offer paint grade material, price it, but make a note that it's PGM.


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SCD=soft close drawers, full extension.

455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay
570 River Run full overlay chinese
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese
600 to 650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese
623 Medallion Silverline Series: Lancaster Maple - Slab Drawer
628 Debut Estate Series: Oxford Maple -5pc Drawer - SCD
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (PGM)
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box
809 KraftMaid: Atwater Maple - Slab - SCD
843 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)-Slab
849 KraftMaid: Huntington Maple - 5pc - SCD
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box
862 Showplace: Pendleton Maple - slab
889 Medallion: Potter's Mill Maple - 5pc
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box
928 Holiday Estate Series - PGM - Slab - SCD
1366 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset Soft Maple-Slab-SCD


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I just figured out that "full overlay chinese" isn't a style. :p


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Lease expensive door in each case. Greenfield has price increase coming so I didn't include it.

785 Brookhaven Bridgeport frameless, full overlay - SCD
1125 Brookhaven Inset Rockport - SCD or not, same price
1239 Pennville Shakertown full overlay framed or frameless, all ply box, SCD
1780 Pennville inset Shakertown, all ply box, SCD or not
1871 Woodmode Chatham full overlay, SCD
2241 Woodmode Inset - Sturbridge, SCD or not


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This is VERY helpful, thank you Kompy and Daveinorlado for adding in.

Does W3636 give width then height of upper?
Are the numbers the door selection?

Thanks.


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typo

i meant to say least not lease!


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Updated List 5/12/12 10:55am

Thanks mamadada!!! Nice to get more higher end lines on the list! :-)

Everyone, keep in mind...these prices are not set in stone from dealer to dealer. Markup and freight will differ.

Updated:

SCD=soft close drawers, full extension.
PGM=paint grade material or paint grade maple
5pc=matching doorstyle drawer front: Made with 5 pieces. Picture framed with center panel.

455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay
570 River Run full overlay chinese
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese
600 to 650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese
623 Medallion Silverline Series: Lancaster Maple - Slab Drawer
628 Debut Estate Series: Oxford Maple -5pc Drawer - SCD
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (PGM)
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box
785 Brookhaven Bridgeport frameless, full overlay - SCD
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box
809 KraftMaid: Atwater Maple - Slab - SCD
843 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)-Slab
849 KraftMaid: Huntington Maple - 5pc - SCD
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box
862 Showplace: Pendleton Maple - slab
889 Medallion: Potter's Mill Maple - 5pc
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box
928 Holiday Estate Series - PGM - Slab - SCD
1125 Brookhaven Inset Rockport - SCD or not, same price
1239 Pennville Shakertown full overlay framed or frameless, all ply box, SCD
1366 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset Soft Maple-Slab-SCD
1780 Pennville inset Shakertown, all ply box, SCD or not
1871 Woodmode Chatham full overlay, SCD
2241 Woodmode Inset - Sturbridge, SCD or not


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Sparklingwater, The cabinets are priced with W3630 and a B36.

The upper cabinet is W3630 (36 wide by 30 high). The B36 is 36" wide.

Red Lover, I would bet Mouser would fall in somewhere around 889 to 1000. They are about the same price as Holiday's Traditional series (not priced yet)!


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Thanks for this info. It makes me feel a lot better about the price we're paying for our cabinets.

Any chance someone could talk about drawers? Everyone seems to love them here, but I always hear "they cost more". How much more? Is it 10%? 50%? Double? Is it a pretty consistent upcharge across brands or do some charge a lot more for them? Not sure if I'm asking people to do too much work (please ignore my request if it is too much work), but I'd love to get a general idea. Thanks!


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You guys rock!!!!
Much more helpful than the list of cabinet companies I was trying to put together!!
Thanks-this forum is great!!


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Mom23Es,
I am not too sure if it is a consistent upcharge across brands. I know it is usually a wash to do rollouts vs. a 3 drawer base.

I looked at Brookhaven - no upcharge door in maple with a standard stain. These prices include markup but not freight or tax - just to give you an idea of what happens when you add drawers. The B1D and B3D are the most common that people like to have in their kitchens.

310 B36 - Base 36" with full height door
415 B1D - Base 36" with one drawer at top
549 B3D - Base 36" with one small drawer and 2 deep drawers
607 B4D - Base 36" with 3 small drawers and 1 deep drawer
660 B5D - Base 36" with 5 small drawers

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Mom23e - for our Kemper cabs, drawers were cheaper than base cabs w ROTS...so it's definitely not a 50% upcharge...I'd guess around 10% but never got a quote w base cabs so not sure.


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Re drawers versus typical is not consistant across lines.
I just looked at several- to keep all equal I made the top drawer slab and all lower drawers 5 pc increase from standard B36 to:
Showplace 3D or 2D-+ 56%, 4D + 75%
Mountaineer 3D less 3.4%, 2D less 20%, 4D + 20%
Quality Custom- 3D less 4.3%, 2D less 12%, 4D + 12.3%
(I'm waiting to hear from Kompy to post those lines along with two others to the list)
A quick look at an old price book seems to indicate that Kraftmaid is in the 40-45% range and Medallion in the 25-38% range but someone who is currently handling them could say better.

Interesting that the higher price brands are cheaper.

The list is great, I use one that I got several years ago(which includes other finish options) to see where I am likely to fall against the competition. But it is only a rough guide. Changing the finish, wood, or style shifts the position of many of these brands around in the list.

On a real kitchen changing detailing can have an even larger effect between brands. Do they charge for finish sides, dimensional modifications, etc... which is why we can't always say well this brand is X% more than that. Really have to price them out for you. Here again the higher price brand can save money though it still will cost more, just not as much more.


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I very much agree with jakuvall...

Moldings can add a lot to the cost of a kitchen. The lines I work with don't charge to reduce depth or width so that makes it a little more custom I suppose but there again they were some of the higher priced lines on the list so I guess you pay one way or the other if you need a particular sized cabinet. Related to items shifting in the list based on other variables -- so true! some of the lines charge for freight, others include it, some charge to finish sides, others include it, some offer plywood standard, others it's an upgrade. It can sway a job one way or the other depending on what the homeowner wants and which door style they choose can add a huge amount to the cost... Going with a no-upcharge door seems to be the easiest way to keep costs down if there is a decent offering of doors vs. giving up on a particular wood species or giving up on plywood if that's important.


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Besides freight differences, which also vary by how far the dealer is from the factory....

We don't all always have the same costs from the mfg. A dealer is given a "multiplier" to use to determine cost. There are brands that will give a better discount to a dealer for a variety of reasons. Sometimes the difference can be significant.

That dealer markup will vary by local cost of living ought to be obvious but thought I'd mention it.
I had this vision of thousands of TKO gardenwebbers walking into KD's all over the country first thing Monday morning to price a B36 and a W3630 and well...you get the idea :)

So if you walk in and ask the KD to price a B36 and a W3630 and it doesn't match the list it doesn't automatically mean they are robbing, zipcoding or otherwise taking advantage of you.


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Thanks kompy, I feel like a ditz--I knew you were a KD but for whatever reason I guess I thought you had access to prices of all lines.

Great job to all the KDs! This is so helpful.


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Anyone reading this remember door style, species and finish up charges very from company to company. Do not make a hard assumption that this list would remain in the same order for every possible cabinet list. It should be looked at as a relative guide not a hard line rule

SCD=soft close drawers, full extension.
PGM=paint grade material or paint grade maple
5pc=matching doorstyle drawer front: Made with 5 pieces. Picture framed with center panel.

455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese SCD- ply box
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay SC drawers & SC doors ply box
570 River Run full overlay chinese SCD - ply box
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese SCD- all ply
600 to 650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese SCD- All ply box
623 Medallion Silverline Series: Lancaster Maple - Slab Drawer
628 Debut Estate Series: Oxford Maple -5pc Drawer - SCD
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (PGM) Particle board box
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple SCD- all ply box
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box -SCD and SC doors
785 Brookhaven Bridgeport frameless, full overlay - SCD
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box solid maple door- SCD
809 KraftMaid: Atwater Maple - Slab - SCD
843 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)-Slab
849 KraftMaid: Huntington Maple - 5pc - SCD
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box -SCD- Paint Grade Maple meaning natural wood not MDF door (lower cost then natural maple used for stains)
862 Showplace: Pendleton Maple - slab
889 Medallion: Potter's Mill Maple - 5pc
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box- SCD - paint grade maple
928 Holiday Estate Series - PGM - Slab - SCD
1125 Brookhaven Inset Rockport - SCD or not, same price
1239 Pennville Shakertown full overlay framed or frameless, all ply box, SCD
1366 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset Soft Maple-Slab-SCD
1780 Pennville inset Shakertown, all ply box, SCD or not
1871 Woodmode Chatham full overlay, SCD
2241 Woodmode Inset - Sturbridge, SCD or not


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added allwood

I forgot I still had pricing on Allwoods new white shaker cabinet that is available starting in June.(over priced brand in my opinion) Also shipping is not included in some of the brands I have. It is too hard to do with any accuracy. Some of my companies have a flat rate of 150 for 10 cabinets or more. RTA lines you have to guess when you sell the kitchen. You do not know the freight till an order with the company is created. It normally runs 200 - 250 for an entire kitchen of 15 cabinets or so. Others companies i have to entire the entire order in custom quoting software that arrives at a freight price that is not explained. Other companies I have the freight is included in the price I am given for the cabinets if the cabinet count is 10 or higher.


SCD=soft close drawers, full extension.
PGM=paint grade material or paint grade maple
5pc=matching doorstyle drawer front: Made with 5 pieces. Picture framed with center panel.

455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD- ply box
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay SC drawers & SC doors ply box
570 River Run full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD - ply box
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese SCD- all ply
600 to 650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD- All ply box
623 Medallion Silverline Series: Lancaster Maple - Slab Drawer
628 Debut Estate Series: Oxford Maple -5pc Drawer - SCD
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (PGM) Particle board box
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple SCD- all ply box
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box -SCD and SC doors
785 Brookhaven Bridgeport frameless, full overlay - SCD
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box solid maple door- SCD
790 Allwood Nantucket full overlay chinese - SC doors and drawers - all ply box.
809 KraftMaid: Atwater Maple - Slab - SCD
843 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)-Slab
849 KraftMaid: Huntington Maple - 5pc - SCD
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box -SCD- Paint Grade Maple meaning natural wood not MDF door (lower cost then natural maple used for stains)
862 Showplace: Pendleton Maple - slab
889 Medallion: Potter's Mill Maple - 5pc
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box- SCD - paint grade maple
928 Holiday Estate Series - PGM - Slab - SCD
1125 Brookhaven Inset Rockport - SCD or not, same price
1239 Pennville Shakertown full overlay framed or frameless, all ply box, SCD
1366 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset Soft Maple-Slab-SCD
1780 Pennville inset Shakertown, all ply box, SCD or not
1871 Woodmode Chatham full overlay, SCD
2241 Woodmode Inset - Sturbridge, SCD or not


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A few added after mailing daveinorlado I used the same multiplier that daveinorlado is using, not sure what Kompy is working with. I mention it because with that markup and the freight to NY I have Showplace at 898 (no promos) and Inset at 964

SCD=soft close drawers, full extension.
PGM=paint grade material or paint grade maple
5pc=matching doorstyle drawer front: Made with 5 pieces. Picture framed with center panel.
455 Brandom Durango standard overlay
471 TSG Artic White full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD- ply box
480 Wellborn Forest Jackson standard overlay
569 Wolf Classic Dartmouth full overlay SC drawers & SC doors ply box
570 River Run full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD - ply box
595 6 Square itasca painted vanilla full overlay chinese SCD- all ply
600 to 650 for Ikea Akurum (req. assembly-$55 per box?)
622 JSI Essex full overlay chinese (RTA) SCD- All ply box
623 Medallion Silverline Series: Lancaster Maple - Slab Drawer
628 Debut Estate Series: Oxford Maple -5pc Drawer - SCD
640 Aristokraft monroe MDF door (PGM) Particle board box
645 Kabinart arts and crafts maple SCD- all ply box
780 Bridgewood custom framed or frameless same price all ply box -SCD and SC doors
785 Brookhaven Bridgeport frameless, full overlay - SCD
786 Touchstone fully custom frameless melamine box solid maple door- SCD
790 Allwood Nantucket full overlay chinese - SC doors and drawers - all ply box.
809 KraftMaid: Atwater Maple - Slab - SCD
843 Shiloh: Shaker Inset (reverse raised panel shaker)-Slab
849 KraftMaid: Huntington Maple - 5pc - SCD
855 Touchstone fully custom full overlay or frameless all ply box -SCD- Paint Grade Maple meaning natural wood not MDF door (lower cost then natural maple used for stains)
862 Showplace: Pendleton Maple - slab
889 Medallion: Potter's Mill Maple - 5pc
925 Touchstone fully custom inset all ply box- SCD - paint grade maple
928 Holiday Estate Series - PGM - Slab -
1047 Embassy House/New River Mission Slab SCD
1125 Brookhaven Inset Rockport - SCD or not, same price
1204 Embassy House/New River, Mission, Slab- Inset SCD
1265 RichMaid (CWP?) Frameless Mission Slab- SCD
1239 Pennville Shakertown full overlay framed or frameless, all ply box, SCD
1335 RichMaid (CWP) Mission Mission Slab- FO or Inset SCD
1366 Plain & Fancy: Vogue Beaded Inset Soft Maple-Slab-SCD
1399 Mountaineer- slab -FO or inset SCD
1761 Saxton Frameless Whittaker NAUF SCD
1780 Pennville inset Shakertown, all ply box, SCD or not
1849 QCCI Frameless Whittaker SCD
1871 Woodmode Chatham full overlay, SCD
1957 QCCI FO Whittaker , Slab SCD
2057 QCCI inset Whittaker, Slab SCD
2241 Woodmode Inset - Sturbridge, SCD or not


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Thank you for all of this. :)


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Yes, thank you all.

I do have a general interest question: are customers permitted to actually see the current price list of a cabinet manufacturer? If not, why not?

Also, where would Dynasty by Omega fit in here?


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anyone know how long the Shiloh no charge upgrade to inset will last?


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This is SO timely for me as we just got our custom quote last week.

May I ask a question? Are the prices you all are posting the same as Kompy posted first?
A single W3630
A single B36??

Can you tell me a guestimate of what, if any added cost there would be to a 42" upper?

If I posted my cabinet bid here, would that be wrong? To see if the pros think that the bid is reasonable?

I wouldn't know what line to compare a custom quote to, so was going to just compare the middle line to mine.

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sparkling water- no, it is too complicated for us to be able to do that. I am usually willing to show customer an itemized pricing, many dealers will not. That said they often can't make heads of tails of it without a lenghty explanation of what things are. Can't help you specifically with Dynasty, real kitchens appear to price above Showplace and below Brookhaven around these parts based on competition, but I'm guessing.

p.ball- I have no idea since I don't handle Shiloh so one of the others may have a better answer. What I do know is that for the last two years mfgs have continually let promos expire and then renew them the day after. That appears to be coming to a close. They can't do it forever and each one is waiting for the other. I do know for instance that the Showplace Promos are scheduled for a gradual reduction unitl the fall when they are phased out AND that they have a price increase coming, first in years.

susie3d- These prices are only useful to get a general sense of how different brands relate to each other. Each company will have pros and cons for pricing. Some would add more than others to go to a 42" cabinet. As to posting your bid I wouldn't have anything to offer on it since it is an unknown. Besides which I am a lousy guesser and the only way to tell would be to do a complete bid in several lines I carry. Maybe someone else feels differently.


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all the prices I listed are for w3630 and the b36.

Dealers do not like showing their detailed costs. I personally have never understood that beyond making you work for the designs of all the companies you want prices from. I will give the spec book in pdf format to anyone who wants it. The 2020 print outs that make the prices for the dealers using it are pretty self explanatory as to what each line item is. After a while a dealer gets tired of people wanting an explanation of every item so a buyer can try to buy each item from different places to negiotate the lowest price on every last thing.

When you bundle your prices it is much harder to discern how good a deal you got on each item. Hiding the breakdowns is actually more work as you have to calculate everything first and then re write in a hidden fashion. That is a pain.


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This is a great thread. I just met with the first KD. Brands she showed me where Mid Continent, Abbey Hill ad Crystal. She is designing the kitchen with Crystal, the working pantry and mud/utility with Abbey Hill and the guest baths with Mid Continent.

How do these three brands fit into the above price lists?

THANKS!


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Don't have exact pricing, Crystal would be in the 1200-1400 range. Mid Continent down in the 5-650. Just based on what I've seen from competition.


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Thanks Jackuval. No wonder she said my kitchen "allowance" was not enuf and I upped it from what the builder usually includes for similar homes. I am meeting with another company that prefers Holiday Cabinets which looks like it is slightly less.


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Can we tell which of these doors has a reverse raised-panel and which are 1/4" center panels?

Thanks!


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Lisa- looks like from Medallion down all of the doors listed are 1/4"- many will also offer a reverse raised at an upcharge. Most of the more expensive makers will be using reverse raised BUT not all! Practically all of those listed will be using an engineered panel in paint even with reverse raised, but many of the pricier mfgs will make it wood even with paint if you want. Of course they will then have you sign off on that.
The list is really only useful to put mfgs in a general range, not as a hard and fast rule.


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This whole exercise is interesting but I'd be troubled to know anyone would use it alone to make decisions.

Some brands above are built of lower cost and less durable materials; if you don't care about that, you can make a price-point decision based on the list but it is still only part of the picture.

Some brands have paint grade options that cost less money, but they aren't listed here, other brands do have a paint grade listing - why some, but not all? Does this mean you can make a good decision, or just that you can make a good decision based on the limited info you've been given?

What about warranty? Is there value in that?

What if a cabinet brand intentionally prices a popular size cabinet with lower margins because they know it will be price-checked, but they get it back somewhere else?

Some brands charge the same for delivery no matter where you live, other brands charge based on a delivery cost basis, so the same comparison will change a lot depending on where you live.

Some kitchen and bath dealers provide tremendous value and have great local reputations; not considering them based on the list would be a mistake. By the same token, every dealer can charge what they want, so kompy or daveinorlando might charge the homeowner an end price that is very different from each other, or any other dealers.

I know, I know, I'm going negative.

So here is where I hope I can go positive in the conversation. The best advise is to learn which brands are available to you in your area, get some good advise locally from friends, family, church members, etc. ... then shop the whole package with at least 2 or 3 sources.

There are too many variables between the cabinet choices for any list to apply well on a nationwide basis.

The BEST choice will rarely, if ever, land in the same price-position as it does in any tightly focused list.


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Javaroyal, the main reason I started this thread was to give people just a smidgen of an IDEA of the cost differences between brands of cabinets. I've been coming to this site since the mid-90s and this is the most asked question here! People generally only do a kitchen once (maybe twice) in their lifetime. The general public has no clue with cabinet brand recognition (Cars are easy, they know what a Ford costs vs a Mercedes Benz). How many people know Wood-Mode is super high end...and a brand called Legacy is budget?

It's also just interesting to see the vast spread in cabinet costs.

This was not to for people to make decisions....but to know where each brand stood (approximately) within the huge directory of cabinet brands.


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Thanks for posting this information. I used an Amish cabinet shop for my remodel. My cabinets are full overlay and natural select cherry so not an apples to apples comparison but now I realize I got even a better deal than I thought. My cabinets are absolutely gorgeous and the fit and install was flawless.
So anyone who hasn't ordered their cabinets be sure to check local custom cabinet shops too.


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kompy, I understand the intent of the thread and appreciate your willingness to help out.

I think any time a listing is presented, those trying to interpret it will also appreciate knowing that the price-order of the list may change significantly when comparing their total project cost locally.

Brands find different ways/places to boost their pricing and it is almost impossible to know where or how they will do it. Moldings, accessories, size changes, construction details ...

As a whole, the cabinet manufacturing industry has been losing money for a few years so there are lots of unusual tactics being used to get business, in order to stay in business. What is true today probably won't be true tomorrow.

Anyone thinking they might like to have a new kitchen or bath ought to seriously consider getting in the game sooner than later. Recent signs of an improving housing industry will no doubt come with increasing prices for home related products (cabinet makers in particular)as manufacturers try to heal their bottom lines.


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Javaroyal- you are correct that prices will rise. I've already received noticee of an scaled ending to promotions for the one line I handle that is offering them.
OTOH ending promos or straight across the board price increases are the only way I have ever seen prices change. The only regional variation is shipping from a mfg.
Different dealers will have different markups. For some brands (larger) mfg's may give dealers different prices based on volume (or headaches,for instance some small dealers pay less for a line than the box store)
Aside from that I've never seen any other variationn frankly dealers would not sit still for any cute tricks.


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Thank you very much. Did you include Greenfield cabinetry?


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Thanks you for making this list. Where would Bellmont 1600 fit in? Its a relatively new line for Pacific Crest, so its hard to find pricing and reviews for it.


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Message from Showplace - We recognize that the original listing was meant to be full-overlay, but since inset crept into the list it is relevant to know other options are missing from the above listing relating to cabinets available from Showplace:
- paint grade specie option is not listed above
- inset style version is not listed, available in both maple and paint grade specie options
- traditional overlay (the door covers 1/2" of the frame vs 1-1/4" with full overlay) is not listed and is available for less money
- 1/2" solid panel versions in maple or paint grade and in full-overlay, traditional-overlay, and inset

It would be great if the listing could become more complete to include all species and overlays. From my experience the list order will likely change with those choices, so please be aware of the fact that those variables make a difference.

We'd love to be able to provide the prices for them from Showplace to this group, but every dealer is independent and we do not control what price they will charge. This will vary from dealer to dealer and from one part of the country to another.


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To make the list of brands on this post more complete, here's info on StarMark.
Stratford door style (full overlay and recessed panel) in Maple finished in White is around $630.
Milan door style (cope-and-stick, Shaker look) in Maple finished in White with a five piece drawer header is around $841.
An inset door style in Maple finished in White is around $1040.


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Cabinet pricing has to be one of the most frustrating thing to buyers. I know there are thousands of combinations of color, door styles, upgrades and you can't get a ballpark figure for just the brand.

I am trying to get a quote from this KD. I listed very clearly the number of cabinets I need and their dimensions, the color, the door style, a picture of my kitchen, and elevation drawings from another designer. How hard is it to add up the manufacture's recommended price for those cabinets and then apply a discount that you usually do for interested customers? I am not ready to sign a contract and hold her responsible for the quote price here. I just need an estimate and the amount of information that I provided to her is enough for a good estimate. I feel like its a cat and mouse game here. She's asking me who is my other KD, who is my contractor, and what are their quotes? Can't we just be more direct here and not make cabinet pricing into some great voodoo mystery. Poof, here comes a number.


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Best prices and best finish is from www.AllWoodCabinets.com.It only takes about 7-10 days for delivery and they are made well.


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A huge thanks to the contributors to this thread. I'm still laying out my reno and will be looking to get cabinet quotes soon, so the list here is very helpful. And I fully understand that prices will vary from what's listed here and that relative positions of the manufacturers will shift based on options chosen and other variables, but it's a very helpful starting point for a newbie like me. Many thanks!


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The lists here are so helpful, thank you for compliling them.

We have dealers here carrying Kemper, Ovation and Woodharbor. May I ask how they fit into the list? I understand that the list only provides a general sense among the brands.


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Kompy, super helpful, thank you for posting this. And yes, I definitely didn't know until recently that Wood-Mode is super high end. I was looking at a KD's website that states they are the #1 dealer of Wood Mode in the area...great, I figured they were budget friendly. Umm. Nope. SOOO the opposite!

This will be really helpful for me as I start thinking about the reno process so I don't have huge sticker shock. :-)


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Leeber, Just because your KD sells Wood-Mode does not mean he/she doesn't carry other brands that are more budget friendly. My showroom carries several lines from budget up to high end. If they are a Wood-Mode dealer....probably a good indication they are very good at what they do. Ask them first before disregarding them...."Do you carry other brands in my budget?" Most showrooms today probably at least carry semi-custom as their entry level.


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Kompy--thanks for the reminder and the nudge. This particular KD I was thinking of using is right by our new house and gets rave reviews from a bunch of people I know. I guess I was just intimidated with my comparably modest renovation budget. A good reminder that there are options! :-) Thanks again for the info.


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And keep in mind, if you visit a big box store, the prices on those brands can vary GREATLY. HD and L have about six big sales a year...we caught one and saved a tremendous amount. We are very happy so far with our Schuler cabs.


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If they carry Wood Mode, they probably then also carry Brookhaven, which is a more budget-friendly line that Wood Mode makes.

Many cabinet companies make several lines, to account for people's varying budgets.


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We plan to order cabinets soon for remodel. Are considering a KD who deals in StarMark and Holiday cabinets. I see Holiday in your pricing lists, but does anyone know about Starmark---
Where does it fall in the pricing scheme?
What other cabinets are comparable to StarMark?
If you have Starmark, are you happy with the product?
Help! This is way more complicated than meets the eye.


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A 36" Cliq drawer base cabinet in painted white is about $422. A 30" tall 36" white wall cabinet is about $230. All of their prices are online. They are fully assembled and made by 6 Square.

I don't see where it says that Cliq and 6 Square are made in China.


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www.AllWoodCabinets.com has the white shaker for $406.00.
They have other styles that are cheaper.


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Do any of you guys have access to UltraCraft pricing and where it would fall in this list ?


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Helpful thread, glad it resurfaced.


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I would love info on UltraCraft pricing also. Based on the research I've done so far, all I know is that it is less expensive than Brookhaven but I have no clue how much les.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing pricing for Cabico. I think Cabico is less than Ultracraft but more than Brookhaven.

Thanks for the wealth of information you've given us.


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I would love info on UltraCraft pricing also. Based on the research I've done so far, all I know is that it is less expensive than Brookhaven but I have no clue how much les.

Also, I'd be interested in knowing pricing for Cabico. I think Cabico is less than Ultracraft but more than Brookhaven.

Thanks for the wealth of information you've given us.


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Thank you so much Kompy. This list is so very helpful! I am planning to use a shaker style white painted cabinet in my kitchen so this really gave me a good starting point.

This post was edited by belle_va on Fri, Apr 5, 13 at 14:23


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Hi
Any feedback on where Candlelight would fit in?
Also on quality of Candlelight and Touchstone?
We are looking at natural wood finished cabinets.
Thanks!!!


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Hi
Any feedback on where Candlelight would fit in?
Also on quality of Candlelight and Touchstone?
We are looking at natural wood finished cabinets.
Thanks!!!


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I would also like some additional price information. I am comparing Dura supreme, Greenfield, Bertch, and Brookhaven in a frameless Shaker cab. It looks like the Brookhaven is coming out the least expensive option in this group for me, and that is in a furniture board whereas the others are plywood. I am having a very difficult time finding out any info on Greenfield.


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Anyone know where Thomasville or Kemper or Diamond (same manufacturer) would fit in? How about Conestoga (I know they only source to commercial not residential/owners but my architect can source them unbuilt, RTA and they seem less pricy but then you have to add assembly)


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Hi
I would really appreciate feedback here
We are looking at 2 KDs in our area. One has quoted us Touchstone and one Candlelight cabinets. For you experts out there (or anyone who has either brand in their house), would you say they are in a similar range as far as quality? Price? They both look nice, so I am wondering about durability. We are looking to do natural wood.
Our GC has worked with both of these KDs; more recently has done a few Touchstone kitchens, and has been pleased with service and cabinets.
Thanks for any insights you can offer.


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Thank you all so much! I am saving this post and printing it now in case it disappears as I am revisiting cabinets after I finish some more tax extensions. This list is so good to know so I will only look at cabinets that I feel would be inside my budge when I figure out what that is. I don't want to overly improve my kitchen as I live in a townhouse in a high end neighborhood but it is still a townhouse but I also want to love my kitchen.


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RE: White Painted Shaker Cabinet Pricing Comparison - Dynasty

Does anyone know where would Dynasty by Omega fits in here?

I think live_wire_oak sells them at her new place.


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Has anyone used Elmwood cabinets. Or Fieldstone.


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I recently started to carry Elmwood after a long search for a good mid range frameless. I'll see if I can get comps up next week sometime. Pretty busy right now and in white shaker they have a lot of options (5 different constructions and at least 3 doors for just basic shaker)

I'm finding them to price, for real kitchens, between 5% under and 10% over Showplace. Been very pleased with them so far. My SIL has been installing them in another state for several years with no issues, weighed heavily on my decision.


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Anyone have experience with Cookshire? Thanks...


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Bumping up for anyone who hasn't seen this. Very helpful to get a general idea of pricing for a popular style of cabinets.


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Musings on a new (or possibly very old) look

Still blowing in the wind when it comes to settling on a style which is more timeless/traditional and which reminds me of my grandparents kitchen in France. Finally decided to pick flooring (how goofy is that) and work my way up. Found a warm, natural stone (Italy) with pockmarks. Liking it in tones of taupe, cream and tan. Now exploring Dynasty, ultima slab (cherry wood), color: nutmeg. Stymied when it comes to counter and backsplash. Also, since I am in goofy mode...eliminating all wall cabinets (I have a small pantry with pull-out shelves). Now I am told (by a KD) that tile for counters is passe and bullnose very hard to find. I am showing my age.


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aries61, I too am happy to see this resurface. I haven't been on GW for quite a while and this was the numero uno thing I wanted to see. Thought I would have a hard time finding it but thanks to you, it is back!

I am sure prices have increased but I am assuming (???) the increases were fairly consistent across the board. Getting closer to finalizing my plans and decisions on which company's cabs so this really helps me.


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I am so glad this post resurfaced.


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Serious question...why would you spend all the money to get maple wood if you are going to paint it?

If painted is what you want, why not go with MDF or plywood?


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Thanks. This is really helpful. I like the white shaker - wonder if people will be able to recognize the shaker style as very 2014 though.


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Does anyone have experience or input about IKS RTA cabinets? Especially their Classic White Shaker RTA cabinet? Quality of cabinet build and especially hinges etc... I know that their assembly instructions are not supposed to be great, but that they are easily assembled.Dave in Orlando mentioned IKS a while back in a short list of Quality RTA Cabinet Companies so I am surprised that they didn't come up here in the discussion of white shaker cabinets.I have not heard anyone with first hand experience with any IKS cabinets so I am interested in any input whether about the Classic White Shaker or their other styles as I believe quality will be similar except perhaps in their oak cabinet. Dealers sell these under different names - but some will call it Classic White Shaker. Any Input about the brand would be appreciated. For anyone looking for a White Shaker RTA cabinet to consider here is another and the price is competition. This is a clean bright white cabinet. IKS Cabinets do have ALL the desirable traits listed for judging quality RTA cabinets mentioned by a professional elsewhere on this site in another post. I have not seen any IKS Cabinets in person yet, or found any comments or reviews online though I have looked for them. So I would love any info before I order my cabinets.The BBB gives the company an A+ with never a complaint, compared to some RTA brands like Timberland who choose not to be members of the BBB and I have seen complaints about. I'd like to hear from real people with real experience.


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Thanks for this excellent thread and all the hard work that went into compiling the lists. I know this is an older thread, but if anyone could comment on where Rutt Regency and Crystal would fit into the list, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.


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Does anyone know the the quality of schrock compared to kraftmaid. It seems like a sturdy cabinet.


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I think Conestoga is the best quality RTA cabinet available. Also as good or better quality than most non RTA cabs IMO.


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Hi, I am learning so much. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your knowledge. Would any one know where Diamond and Schuler cabinetry would fit in?

This may be a silly question, what is the difference if any in the Diamond cabinets at HD compared to a kitchen design co.? Are they the same quality? Price?


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Beware Medallion does not honor their warranty! We purchased $18,000 of cabinets from them. Not one single cabinet out of the box is good. Open miters on every door & drawer front, cracks all over the place gaps inside the cabinets, and the stacked cabinets don't match up at all. The range hood is cracked and scratched so badly we didn't even take it out of the box all the way. They are only offering us $5,000 credit towards a new set of cabinets. #medallionfailsoncraftmanship


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