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Barker cabinets install in progress

Posted by three0h2 (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 11, 13 at 20:29

This website has helped me immensely with all aspects of the complete remodel of my kitchen. So I thought I would give a quick update. We have the base cabinets installed, and so far so good. I really like them. They seem very high quality. They were fairly simple to assemble. And I love the applied molding Boise door! I don't have the doors or drawers installed yet, but I'm already loving the frameless construction. Big drawers!

This post was edited by three0h2 on Mon, Apr 29, 13 at 13:23


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Oooh we're doing our kitchen from them. Looking forward to seeing your progress!


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Here's another picture, with Danby marble countertop installed. The end cabinet isn't stock. We modified a 45 angle cabinet to make it. It was critical since we need doorway clearance there, and our small kitchen needs all the cabinet and counter space it can get.


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And one picture of a painted end panel.

This post was edited by three0h2 on Mon, Apr 29, 13 at 13:22


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How exciting! That Blue is georgous!


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I'm joining the Barker fan club over here. We just got our sample doors in both whites and clear-coat Walnut, along with a sample cabinet. They are at the top of our contenders list right now.

Your cabinets are looking great so far, threeoh2. Love that blue!


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Those look great and the painted finish seems perfect. Nice. Keep posting pics as it all unfolds!


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They look great! Just curious, did you modify that angled cabinet yourselves, or is that something Barker was able to modify for you? We've got a similar set-up in our kitchen that I've been trying to figure out how to deal with...

thanks!
Michelle


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Michelle: We modified it ourselves. I drew it up in CAD (google sketch up), and my contractor, aka my father, made the cuts and drilled new holes. It was pretty easy for him, but he has a fair amount of woodworking experience. Drawing it up in CAD made it easier to wrap our heads around what we were doing.


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Cabinets installed! I love them! The Blum soft close hardware is quite nice. I really love the Boise door style. They are very sturdy, and seem like they have quality craftsmanship.

Overall, a pretty smooth installation. We still need to adjust a few tricky drawers and doors, but it will work out fine. And, still need to add hardware.

If I could do it all over again, I'd definitely stick with Barker, although I would have upgraded to a harder wood. They'll be fine now they're hung but there are some tiny dents from moving them around during the priming and painting stage. During assembly, there were a few places in which I wished the predrilling was a tiny bit more precise. But carefully and tightly holding the pieces in alignment while screwing mostly corrected it. And once they are hung and the doors and drawers have been installed, this very slight misalignment is not at all noticeable. I should add that I can be quite particular. All in all, for my budget, I feel like I couldn't have done better.

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Stunning! So did you chose the paint grade alder/mdf or alder/maple? Care to share your painting/finishing method?

I love how the upper and lower cabinets are slightly offset and nestled into your arch. Well done papa! Also, I have to say your choices, the walnut stained floors, navy base cabs, white uppers, door style, and marble, are incredible. Please post more images (and if you can take them in the landscape orientation they will post upright instead of sideways)!


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Thanks! I'm pretty stoked! I chose the alder and mdf for the shrinkage/paint gap reason. We primed/painted them using BIN and BM satin Advance. Both were sprayed with a hvlp conversion gun that I bought. After primimg, I used 220 where needed, then 320 or 400 sandpaper. We did 3 coats of paint, sanding after the first coat.

Hmm.. The photo looks upright on my phone. Good to know. Thanks for the photo posting tip. I'll post more pictures soon.


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I can't wait to see more of your kitchen! I love the counters and so far the cabinets look nice from what I can see. Thanks for sharing.


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Wow, they look great!! Love the color and style. I almost didn't click on this link ... Make sure you post your finished pics in a new thread when you're done. Looking forward to the final reveal!


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Looks great!


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This looks great! I am so impressed. I love the counters and your color choices for the cabinets. And you did a wonderful job painting the cabinets yourself. I wish I were that handy. Can't wait to see the finished kitchen post.


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Which white paint did you choose to be on the doors?Please do not forget to post pictures when you are done. I wish I was as handy.


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Thank you for the compliments. I will be sure to do a reveal post once its all done. In the meantime, here are a few more pics.

Lynn: the white cabinets are BM mayonnaise, and in case you're curious, the ceiling is BM cottonballs.

This post was edited by three0h2 on Mon, Apr 29, 13 at 13:21


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This picture shows the countertop a little better, as well as the modified end cabinet.


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...and the uppers.

This post was edited by three0h2 on Mon, Apr 29, 13 at 13:20


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So gorgeous. Thanks for the info and for providing us with more photos as you progress. Many people promise, you deliver!

I love what I'm learning from you. I never liked applied moldings on cabinet doors, but combined with your recessed panel it's just beautiful. I've actually decided to hold off on ordering doors because of your post, until I've thought this through a little more. I had planned to go with Shaker, then after living in the house for a bit (a mid-century colonial revival with some beautiful mid-century modern furniture), I decided to go with (gasp) slab doors. Now? You're making me want more to the door, if you know what I mean... Ugh, decisions.

If you like your sprayer, could you let me know which one you bought?


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Three0h2~I love your kitchen. I was trying to find your past threads to see if you listed your kitchen size. Would you mind telling me the approximate size of your kitchen please?

In a few years I will build a small home that is reminiscent of an early '30s bungalow, and it has a small U shaped kitchen (9'x11'5) but will be open to the small informal dining room. I didn't think a smaller kitchen would look good with two different colors of cabinets, but yours look beautiful. This would be a good compromise for DH and me. Stained cabs are the only decorative thing he has an opinion about, but I would love a painted cab because I think it fits in more with my casual farmer's bungalow.


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EAM44: I thought without a doubt I would be going with the ever-so-popular shaker style door. But, when it came time to order, I just wanted a little something more. And, something a little different (but not too different). I feel I made the perfect choice for my kitchen. I'm sure you will too.
I purchased the Titan Capspray Maxum II conversion HVLP from Gleem paint. I included the link below. Honestly, I don't have any prior experiences to compare it to, but it's a very nice gun. My father, who used it most, found it to be nice as well. We did have some frustrating moments with the final coat but the gun wasn't the issue. We think it was the humidity. I'm not sure if you have much experience with spraying, but it seems to be all about getting the settings and spraying distance right while practicing on scrap wood.

Here is a link that might be useful: HVLP gun link


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IowaCommute: That's pretty much the exact size of my kitchen.
I personally think stained and painted cabinets can go together wonderfully. And if it wasn't for my walnut stained hardwood floor, I might have gone with a darker stained lowers.

Here are the plans for my kitchen, in case you find them helpful:

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Thank you so much for posting your layout. Did you stain your lower cabs? What color is it?

Thank you again for posting your beautiful kitchen.


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.... posted twice.

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My lower cabinets are a custom blue color; the idea was a smokey navy. They are sort of chameleon-like though, looking different based on lighting and the angle of view.


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Oh thank you for saying the color seemed to change. I looked at the pictures on different computers and thought I needed to get my eyes checked.

It is a very pretty blue.


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They look amazing, thanks for sharing! I too, am about to order Barker, although I will be having them pre finished in Pure White. Can you tell me if you are planning on doing UCL and if so, will you use Barker's light rail or stock trim?


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Wow! How did I miss your lovely kitchen! It is gorgeous!!
I love the blue color and your counter top is so nice and helps transition from the lowers to the uppers!
Can't wait to your final reveal!


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Suburbanjuls: I felt like Barkers' lightrail wouldn't be right for the look of my kitchen. So I bought my lightrail with my stacked crown at a local woodworking shop. This was no less convenient for me since I painted them myself, but it was also less expensive, and I could choose anything under the sun. I ended up going with a 3/4" deep rounded corner 1x3. It will stick out just a little in front of the door/side panels. Ignore the blue tape keeping the sample pieces of wood together. The picture gives you an idea of what it will be like. We're using Environmental Lights UCLs which are only .4" high.

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Wow! Looks great, excellent job.


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Thanks so much for the very helpful info. I have to say, yours is my favorite thread. Oh, and great job on the image editing! I just noticed the lower half of a baby in a striped onesie on your counter in the second image you posted. If yours, feel free to post more images of the little one too!


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Just wondered how it's going. I'd love to see more pics when you get a chance.


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EAM44: thanks for asking. We just finished putting the tile in this evening. Tomorrow, the grout! It's definitely been a long process and we are ready to just enjoy the kitchen. :)

The tile is Ann Sacks' Idris in grey chine, a handmade moroccan terra cotta tile.


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Another view.

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Oh my God it's beautiful!!! So many people think that if they have marble with any veining at all, they have to have a white subway tile bs. Your bs is a wonderful example of how inaccurate that is, and how unimaginative. This was a fantastic choice - a happy choice - and it goes perfectly with the feel of your kitchen (warm, homey, classic, yet still very 21st century as well). I'm really excited for you.


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What a stunning Kitchen! I love the Blue and the floors and the counters and the angled cabinet! I did notice the cute little baby in striped jammies sitting on your gorgeous counters! Your backsplash really brings your elements together and provides an extra pop! What a beautiful job! Can't wait to see it all completely finished.


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That tile looks great with everything. Very, very nice!


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I love your kitchen! The backsplash is wonderful, such a delight. Unique, but not LOOK AT ME. Also, yay for small kitchens.

Edited to add: I don't even like blue, but I'd have your kitchen in a heartbeat. The blue is more like Levis in various states of wear.

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Wow! what a great backsplash!


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ThreeOh2 - It all looks Great! And this is just the inspiration I need!

I have the paint grade doors & drawers in my house and the color selected. That should have been the hard part - right? I now need to decide between BM Advance or BM Cabinet Coat, and find the nerve to spray! :-)

Did you need to thin the Advance? Did you get a smooth finish? What was your setup like? Did you have a paint booth?

What size needle did you use? I'm still learning about these sprayers, and I don't see where the web site you posted talks about needle size at all, but mine came with 2 sizes, so I'm guessing yours can change out too? I'm under the impression that Advance needs a larger needle?

Did you spray your ceilings too?

Thanks!

Jeri


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Since I just saw another thread with Danby mountain white counters, I thought I'd post a new pic of mine with the backsplash (and my sweet little guy).


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There is so much to love in that pic!!!


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Honestly Jeri, if I were to do it all over again, I would have paid a pro to spray the doors and drawer fronts with Advance, and I would have done everything else. Probably due to NW humidity, we had a very frustrating time at some points. However, when we weren't getting tiny bubbles, everything was perfect and they looked perfect. In the end, they do look great, but because of my mixed experience I can't tell you it was easy. However, if we didn't have tiny bubbles to try to get rid of, I would probably be raving about how easy the process was, and how it was all about prep and clean up.

So, that brings me to your questions: no, I don't think we needed to thin it, although we did at a point to try to get rid of the bubbles. When everything was working great, both ways worked. Thinning it is not as big of a deal as I thought it would be. I was trying to avoid it like the plague. The idea kind of intimidated me. But thinning it 5% or so is simple enough.

We only had 1 needle. Again, when thing were going great, it was good. We made a paint booth out of PVC and thick plastic sheeting. We used the super thin plastic on the inside of the booth and changed it out regularly to keep the booth clean. We used cardboard on the workspace and a bunch of small scrap boards to hold the doors/drawer front up off the cardboard. We changed/flipped the cardboard as necessary and flipped/changed the boards between each coat of each door/drawer front.

We did spray the ceiling. We primed it before installation and sprayed when it was up. What a mess! But I still feel that was the best option. Luckily we didn't have bubble issues here. Rolling wouldn't have looked as good and would have been tedious. If you do this, be sure to tape that room off from the rest of the house the best you can. Use 3M blue tape to completely seal it off. We did, and overspray still filled the house. While stressful at the time, the dry paint overspray dust did clean up like dust, and we still had construction dust to clean up anyhow.

In the end it seemed that getting a great finish (in our case, this applies to when bubbles weren't appearing) was all about technique and getting your settings and distance right, but there is a bit of leeway when it comes to the gun settings and finding the right balance. My advice is to allow plenty of time and scrap wood to practice on in case you need it.


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Thank you for answering my questions. Yikes! Most of the time I'm confident about doing this - but other times I'm a bit leery... :-)


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Jeri, I didn't want to scare you. It's very doable and rewarding. I don't think our issue is common. I called a lot of people, including Ben Moore's contractor's customer service, and they said they weren't familiar with our problem. I even called the painter I would have used, a really awesome guy who talked with me for a long time and tried to help me figure it out. (If anyone needs a painter in Portland, I'd certainly recommend this guy.)

Orange peel is a much more common issue, and that can be resolved by adjusting your settings and spraying distance and possibly adding some water. And, Advance lays flat so nicely that mild orange peel will level out.


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Since we're on the subject of painting...I am also planning to paint Barker cabinets. Can I ask why both of you chose to use Advance rather than Cabinet Coat? My concern is actually less the painting process, and more the durability of the paint long-term.

BTW - I LOVE this kitchen. It's made me reconsider Shaker in favor of applied molding!


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rmiriam: I chose Advance for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that I love BM paints and the BM paint shop I go to. I use Regal matte on all my walls. I have brushed Satin Advance on the trim in my house and I love the way it looks and feels. I much prefer it over Farrow and Ball, even. And, I love the BM paint colors, especailly BM Mayonnaise and BM Vermont Slate (my original choice for the bottom cabinets that I regret second guessing). However, after the experience I had, I wonder if I could have avoided my bubbles frustrations had we gone with Cabinet Coat. But, since I wasn't able to predict the future, I tell myself not to think about that.


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Double post.

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Your marble is beautiful. Does having the same marble make us sort of kin?::))))! Beautiful job on your kitchen. Beautiful little one too.


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Tulip55: perhaps! ;) I just love the marble. It is so nice to see someone else is loving theirs like I love mine. I must say, though, I am totally envious of the piece on your island!! Breathtaking!

I too have my own little bit of marble nirvana.


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Tile grouted!

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One more photo.


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Absolutely beautiful! I can't imagine a more perfect backsplash with that blue and white.

Another idea to consider for my cabinet color! (Woe is me, I like too many!)


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Your kitchen looks so great. I have so enjoyed watching it evolve through this thread. What a stylish, historically sensitive kitchen remodel. LOVE IT!


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Hi threeoh2,

What a beautiful kitchen! Love those back splashes. Can you tell me what is the width of your glass cabinet above the cook top? I am trying to order one in 14.5". But I am not sure how will the glass panel look like for 14.5" width cabinet. Yours look good.


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Great kitchen! I love seeing smaller kitchen re-dos since I have a small kitchen. Would never, ever have guessed, the cab paint job was a DIY. Pat yourself on the back big-time! It all looks great!


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That is one gorgeous kitchen -- I love blue. How did you find the quality of the barker cabinets. I assume they were RTA cabinets. How do they compare to say the Ikea boxes. We were thinking of doing Ikea boxes and ordering doors locally from a cabinet maker. Your boxes look like plywood construction which is not available from Ikea boxes. Are your cabinets frameless. (sorry the question mark button is strangely not working).

Congratulations on your beautiful kitchen.

Carol


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I know this is an old thread, but I'd love to hear the opinion of someone nearly a year in with the Barker cabinets. Anything you're super happy with or something you'd change? Is the quality what you thought? How is the Advance paint holding up? I went into this reno thinking I knew exactly what I wanted, and now suddenly I'm waffling BIG TIME on the cabinets! Yours look gorgeous!


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I would also love to know how the Barker cabinets have held up and how cabinets compare with other options (Ikea, big box store options). Looking on their site I can't find information about the wall cabinets having hanging rails.


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jhophop...we are in the process of assembling and installing our kitchen full of Barker cabinets. The wall cabinets do not have hanging rails. They have 3/4 inch thick plywood nailers on the back of the cabinet, top and bottom and you screw through those nailers into the studs to attach the cabinets to the walls. They do not use an Ikea-like system of hanging rails. So far we are extremely pleased with the quality of our Barker cabinets but we just got them so I can't speak to their longevity with first hand experience but they are so well built that I can't imagine them not holding up like any other similar quality cabinets.


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