Swiss coffee is white but more creamy than stark white. Just don't want the kitchen to look 'dated' when my attempt is to update! The sample swiss coffee he did looks great, it's even slightly lighter than my mouldings.

In my experience none of the very subtle or light off whites look dingy, not even the ones with grayer undertones, when they are the main color "on their own" and not contrasted against a stark white. Their color undertones just need to be matched with their surrounding colors.

I agree you should do what you prefer. I think different whites can harmonize. I like softer white and I do want my cabinets to work with the trim in the room and with things like my pantry door. I don't think it has to match- I've certainly seen pictures with very creamy cabs against white trim... but if you are leaning towards matching, hold the paint samples up to your trim, base-boards, pantry door and see what harmonizes best. Other factors will influence your perception of color- light, which direction your windows face, tile choice.

All the doors and trim in my house are Swiss Coffee by Kelly Moore, although I think most SCs are about the same. It's not the whitest white out there, but it's fairly crisp and light, a really nice trim. However, I decided it was way too white for my cabinets where I wanted a softer, creamier white. My kitchen window has no trim :( so that wasn't an issue. There are two places at the outer corners of my kitchen where the Swiss Coffee baseboards abut my Cloud White cabinets. You have to be looking at the floor to see them and it's just 5" of contrast.

For me Swiss Coffee would have been way too light and bright for my cabinets. I have several shades of off white in my kitchen (cabs, backsplash, walls). They don't match, but they harmonize and layer very nicely.

I currently have Kelly Moore SC cabinets. In my space, I think they are too bright of a white.

Thanks for the input. I was thinking swiss coffee wasn't going to to white enough as the other sample he brought was whiter! The swiss coffee the painter brought is lighter than my other swiss coffee trim, maybe the brand or maybe it tends to darken after 11 1/2 years.

I tried White Dove and it looks dingy and sickly green-yellow in my kitchen, ended up with Simply White which looks great. I think you should try out some samples in your own room, whites can be tricky and you ay not like what you choose blindly... I know I learned that lesson!