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| So, I get templated for granite tomorrow. Granite guy asked if I picked out a tile yet and I told him that I have not and in fact, I might not do tile. I just want the granite all the way to the edge of the wall.
My house is old and the walls are definitely not straight. Granite guy said this will be a big challenge when templating and that there will likely be some gaps in places...not big but bigger than he thinks looks good. Or he can push the granite into the drywall in places so it can be evened out. Or he can make a piece of quarter round to put at the back edge (hate this idea). What do others do in this situation? |
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- Posted by writersblock (My Page) on Tue, Mar 16, 10 at 10:56
| I'm kind of puzzled by your granite guy. The whole reason for templating is so that the granite can be cut to fit the space. Hardly any house (even newer ones) has perfectly straight walls, and they template so they know how to scribe the granite to make it fit properly. This sounds like prefab and don't ask for any customization, at least IMHO. |
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| I agree with Writersblock. No walls could be more out of plumb than mine, and my granite fabricator just dealt with it, as an everday occurrence for him, certainly not a "challenge" as you/he put it. My counters have no gaps, everything looks great, and I have tile down to the countertop. Is it too late to find another fabricator? |
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- Posted by azstoneconsulting (My Page) on Tue, Mar 16, 10 at 11:14
| Ditto to what Writersblock has said... I'd have to say that based on your description in your OP - your fabricator Some guys will "oversize" the piece - depth wise - and cut the drywall so the What you are asking for is NOT rocket science - insist on having them do just my .02 cents worth - but this is very easily managed from a Fabrication hth kevin |
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- Posted by kristine_2009 (My Page) on Tue, Mar 16, 10 at 11:17
| I was told the same thing actually, but we are putting up tile so I am just dealing with the gap for now. The filled the gap with some kind of epoxy. |
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| My fabricator told me the same, that the saw cuts in a straight line, and where the wall is not straight, I do have a small gap, but I am tiling down to the countertop. At the corner where there would have been a larger gap, they did what kevin says, they cut the drywall and slid the slab in. I didn't think it was any big deal. I would just do that if you are not sure if you are going to tile or not. |
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| I never heard of scribing granite. I thought they always cut back the drywall or fill the gap with epoxy. Just think of the labor charge! |
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| Hmm, I'm pretty sure granite guys knows his stuff. He is considered the best in the area by many of my interior designer friends. Granite guy mentioned he will scribe, but it is hard to get it perfect when a wall has basically an S curve to it. He will try, but he's afraid there will still be a gap in some places. We'll talk more about options tomorrow. I know I don't want the quarter round type piece. I could handle sticking into the drywall if necessary. |
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- Posted by azstoneconsulting (My Page) on Tue, Mar 16, 10 at 17:03
| Jesus Mary & Joseph!!!! Holy Shnykies!!! Does this guy have half a brain or what? OF Frickin COURSE a bridge saw is going to cut in straight line... Scribing is what we PROFESSIONALS use a 4" grinder for.... sounds Maybe he needs to come to my school so I can teach him how to do things right.... TO me - your fabricator sounds more like a whinner-baby... like I said sorry for going off - but this guy masquerading as a "fabricator" slays me! kevin |
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| To oversize the depth a tad, and cut drywall so it slides in under the drywall that's been cut. is.... It's one straight cut. Why is it second class to do this? What part is bad about this? |
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| Well - I sholuld have read this about 3 weeks ago. Our granite is being installed as we speak. Our walls were not straight eithr of course. And we have not decided what to do about a backsplash. Maybe tile. Maybe nothing. So he cut back into the drywall in a couple of spots and made the gap less. Can't really tell you how it looks yet. They are still here - getting ready to cut the cooktop and faucet holes. |
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| wow... |
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- Posted by buffalotina (My Page) on Tue, Mar 16, 10 at 22:09
| I would not accept them cutting into my drywall. My walls are definitely not straight and my granite was nicely scribed to fit. Good luck! |
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| For what this is worth (and I'm kinda assuming very little...) My husband and I fabricated soapstone counters ourselves out of full size slabs. He did the templating while I fussed at him and it didn't occur to us that there was an option to scribing the wall. I know soapstone isn't granite but our slabs follow the wall exactly. |
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| I just had granite installed and my kitchen had very uneven walls- almost s curves in spots. We did not do a granite backsplash; our backsplash will be all tile so it was important that there was a tight fit between the back of the granite and the wall. Our fabricator notched out the drywall where needed to ensure that the granite had a consistent and tight fit to the wall. It looks great- I'm not sure why this would be considered 2nd class. |
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- Posted by azstoneconsulting (My Page) on Wed, Mar 17, 10 at 10:38
| mimitche- Maybe I was a little P.O.'d when I wrote my last reply on this thread - so OK - when a guy notches out the drywall - IMHO - that is NOT second class at all. I used to do this when I did not have the luxury of a water jet to cut any contour It's VERY easy to ubersize (oversize) a piece - especially depth wise - and cut What gets MY hackles in a knot - are these knuckle heads that call themselves They don't know any better - and/or refuse to try to learn any new techniques Don't get me wrong - sliding stone under drywall that has been notched out hth kevin |
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- Posted by remodelfla (My Page) on Wed, Mar 17, 10 at 10:56
| kevin... don't CNC machines solve this problem? |
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- Posted by azstoneconsulting (My Page) on Wed, Mar 17, 10 at 11:20
| Remodelfla - Yes, a CNC machine - IF properly utilized - CAN cut a contour to a wall - but IMHO - If a guy just makes a statement like "the piece can only be made hth kevin |
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| I am a fabricator: uneven walls are an every day occurrence. when there is granite backsplash there is some wiggle room although really crooked walls can also present challenges for making the splash look good. scribing the sheetrock is a very acceptable practice. a detailed manual template or, better yet, an electronic template made with one of the digital templating systems, can allow the fabricator to cut the stone to match the curve(s) in the wall. this "crooked" cut can be done on either a waterjet machine or after sawing on the CNC. there is one instance where simply matching the wall is not a good option. We have done some homes where the full height splash was embossed sheet metal (copper or stainless) in these instances it is important to have the "waves" in the wall fixed by "floating" the sheetrock as the waves become very apparent with the highly reflective sheet metal backsplash. when we measure our measure guys put long straight edges on the wall to show the customer how straight (or not) the wall is so options for dealing with it can be discussed prior to fabrication. |
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