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| I know most cabinets are standard 12" depth but my KD is suggesting 14" or 15" deep, especially as platters will more easily fit in the upper corner cabinets. Does anyone have these deeper cabinets? Aren't I in danger of not having enough "air space" to work with on the counters? |
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| I have four upper cabinets that are 15" deep...I wish they all were! I was really surprised how much difference 3" made in storage space in the deeper cabinets. As your KD says, you can fit platters in the deeper cabinets...I am able to fit my 14" diameter circular platters. As to impacting the "air space" for working at the counters, I don't really notice the difference b/w the counters below the 15" deep cabs and the counters that have the 12" deep cabinets above. |
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| We used 16" uppers so as to be able to keep a small microwave inside. No problem with loss of air space. If you are placing recessed cans over the edge of the counter, you may want to move them out an inch or two. Otherwise the deep cabinets have worked out just fine. |
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- Posted by needsometips08 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 21, 10 at 11:10
| Mine are going to be 14" deep based on feedback from this forum. I asked about this too and received several responses that it works beautifully. |
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- Posted by warmfridge (My Page) on Sun, Mar 21, 10 at 13:21
| After measuring my platters and big bowls, I'm going with 14'' uppers. |
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- Posted by alwaysfixin (My Page) on Sun, Mar 21, 10 at 13:29
| Sherriz- your KD's suggestion is good. Furthermore, we are planning 15" uppers, and will bring the base cabinets out 3" also. However, the base cabinets we are ordering will still be the standard 24" deep, but just be 3" away from the wall. The countertop will be 27" + the overhang, which will be about 1.25" (overhang is that 1.25" depth regardless of whether countertop is 24" or 27" deep). That way, we get the advantages of the deeper uppers, more countertop space, and no "air space" problem as you put it. |
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| We are doing exactly what alwaysfixin explained. My range sticks out more than I would like so I am having the gas line moved so it can go all the way back to the wall which still leaves it about 3" out of line w/ the counter so the base cabinets will be installed 3"forward. My KD suggested the 15" uppers to make up for the 'air space'. We haven't installed yet but it sounds like a great idea and glad to hear others thinking the same. I am also having the cabinet above the frid ge installed forward to meet it's body. This is all on the same wall so I thought it would help balance having the adjoining cabinets forward also. |
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| I didn't have room to pull my cabinets out -- my aisles are already narrower than most here would prefer. While I was okay with them as they were, I didn't want them narrower. My cabinets (Brookhaven) come standard with 13 uppers, and I do like even that one inch more. I put some larger platters on their side with cutting boards in a deep cabinet with vertical dividers instead of dedicating a cabinet width to them. Another option to consider. I did use 15" uppers on the hutch in our breakfast room and it's just enough to put one more row of glassware in the narrow cabinets. We pulled the bases out 3" from the wall to make them 27" and I like the balance of that -- especially since the uppers come down to the counter on the sides. |
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- Posted by kristine_2009 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 21, 10 at 18:53
| I went with 13" uppers and they work great for us. |
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| For those of you who have 14" uppers, how deep are your counters? 24" or deeper? For those of you putting 14" cabinets in, will you keep your counters at 24" depth or make them deeper? |
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| My counters are the standard depth...24" deep cabinets w/25.5" counter depth (includes the approx 1.5" overhang past the cabinet box.) [I have 15" deep upper cabinets.] |
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| 14" are normally more expensive than 15" so be sure to ask which is the highest price. 3" increments are the norm. Mine are 15" uppers, all of them, above 24" lowers and we have no issue with loss of work space. We love them and I'd never have less deep cabinets again. |
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- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Tue, Nov 13, 12 at 0:14
| Resurrecting a very old thread, I know... I get that 15 inch uppers is great for large serving platters, etc, but if you put other things in there, e.g., food items (baking soda, flour, vinegar, etc), how in the world can you find them in the cavern of such a deeper cabinet? I think it would be too hard to reach an upper pull-out, so is there any other way to organize such deep uppers? Or just make sure I only use them for plates/platters/bowls/glasses/mugs? Things that are big enough that I won't lose them... |
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| 15" isn't that deep...I have no problems getting to the items in the back...but I don't put much food in my uppers, just cookbooks, dishes, glasses, very small appliances, water bottles, my "tea shelf", lunch stuff (peanut butter, granola bars, etc.). An advantage of deeper uppers if you're short is that the items in the front of the cabinets are 3" closer to you and should be easier to reach. The items in back, while 15" back, are no farther away than standard 12" deep cabinets. Only 4 of my 8 upper cabs are 15" deep - I wish they all were that deep! Will you have a reach-in, step-in, or walk-in pantry? Pantry cabinets? (Personally, I think pantry cabinets are too deep at 24"....but 15" is fine.) My step-in pantry has 12" & 15" deep shelves...they're fine as well. My old pantry had 18" deep wire shelves - those were too deep & a nightmare b/c of the spaces b/w the wire - difficult to put narrow things in straight and if anything spilled it went all the way down...getting all over the shelves and items on those shelves below the spill. |
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- Posted by live_wire_oak (My Page) on Tue, Nov 13, 12 at 8:04
| 15" upper cabinets are a great way to increase your storage space in virtually the same footprint. I'd also recommend increasing the depth of the base cabinets to at least 27", not just pulling the base cabinets forward. I'm doing that in one of my new displays in the showroom to showcase how you can build in a standard depth refrigerator, but I'm doing 30" cabinets on that wall. Dynasty will increase the cabinet box depth, as well as the drawer depth. Yes, it's an upcharge, but the "found" storage will be a permanent part of your new kitchen forever. |
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| Before you commit to these cabinets, which will take up more space and will cost more money, ask yourself what options you have. For example, here's how I store things in my current kitchen: - Small platters (things I might use for just my family; i.e., a platter to hold a roasted chicken) lay flat in a top-cabinet. I have to use a stool to reach them, but that's okay -- they're kind of an every-two-or-three-weeks item. In my kitchen I'm planning, however, I'm planning a nice bit spot in the plantry for my larger platters and serving pieces. I'm going to have my platters standing on their side rather than stacked as they are now -- that'll mean I don't have to lift out half a dozen heavy bowls to get to the platter I want. The point: If this is your only reason for "going deeper", and if you have a choice, I'd store these items elsewhere rather than go with specialized cabinets. |
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| Deeper walls tend to be reasonable and often worth it. I rarely end up with deeper base cabinets- sometimes only one or two drawer bases, always check what the stuff stored is and relate to price. Also I check aisle clearances which shrink as counters get deeper but should increase as things that pull out get deeper. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Thread on deep counters/cabs with rough costs
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| I find no problem at all locating items on the first two shelves of my 15'' uppers. Remember you are looking at the shelf at eye level, not from above as is the case with base cabinets. Also, I suspect most of us store dishes and glasses and such in the upper cabinets. Their varying shapes and heights make locating items simple. On the top shelves, which I have narrowly spaced, I have larger items like casseroles and platters stored unstacked which I can easily locate since they pretty much fill the shelf from front to back and are therefore easily visible. I guess if you stored spices, for instance, it would be a problem. But the answer to that is to plan some other, appropriately designed space for canned goods and spices. 12'' deep cabs would be equally as difficult as 15'' for such. |
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- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Tue, Nov 13, 12 at 21:36
| Bellsmom, what do you mean the casseroles and platters are stored unstacked? Can you post a picture? And I guess the solution is to only use uppers for bowls, pans, platters, etc, and nothing little! Thanks all. |
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| I have 15" uppers and like the others mentioned LOVE THEM! We ended up with ours by happy accident. We went to install the 12" deep uppers that came with the set of cabinets we bought. It was a former kitchen display. Anyway, we still have a soffit and it turns out that soffit is 15" deep. Ooops! Neither of us thought to measure it, just assumed it was 12". So, DH built me some cabinet boxes to match the depth. I just have the regular 24" lowers. |
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| Olivertwist I certainly agree with nearly everyone else who said they love their 15'' uppers and do not find them intrusive. Here's a link to a thread I posted a while back on retrofitting super susans in a CORNER 15'' wall cab. I urge you to add susans to corner cabs, both wall and base. AND I urge you to carefully design the largest possible susan to fit your shelves. So often cabinet installers just stick in a standard size that can waste huge amounts of space. I will post pics of the way I configure shelves in the regular wall cabs as soon as I finish the current retrofit which involves adding two more shelves to the most used cabinet. It may take me a week to get the new shelves cut, edges stained, and then installed. |
Here is a link that might be useful: corner susans in 15'' uppers
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- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Wed, Nov 14, 12 at 11:37
| Thanks Bellsmom, that was helpful. I won't have a corner cabinet in my uppers, but it's interesting to think if a Susan would help organize the upper cabinet anyway. I can't help but think it wastes space, though, even if more organized. I wonder other than pull outs if there are other ways of organizing uppers and making them more accessible. Would love to see your other pictures later when you get to them, too! |
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- Posted by olivertwist (My Page) on Wed, Nov 14, 12 at 15:01
| LOVE IT. That makes perfect sense. Or I could do 4 platters on 4 shelves. |
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