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Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

Posted by dreamojean (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 14, 13 at 23:36

I'm interested in feedback on potential kitchen layouts in a relatively small kitchen/dining room renovation. We’re torn between having an island, a peninsula, or a U-shaped kitchen ��" and if we do a U-shaped kitchen, whether the sink should be in the peninsula part or the bottom of the “U” facing out the rear window. If we go with the island, we are torn between a better triangle with the sink in the island, or one line of appliances and cabinets with an open-countertop island. We definitely want room for stools as part of the island or peninsula as we want a very open, social kitchen/dining room.

Some of the layout problems stem from our plan to add a door to the back yard off either the kitchen or dining room. If the door is off the dining room and we have an island, there’s good flow but less countertop/storage space. If there’s a peninsula, it will be harder to get from the kitchen out to the back yard without going around the peninsula. But if we put the door off the kitchen, and have a peninsula, people will be coming in and out of the kitchen workspace and probably driving us crazy. So our options seem to be having an island (which means door location is less of an issue), a peninsula with door off the dining room, or U-shaped with door off the dining room. I’m concerned the U-shaped kitchen will feel claustrophobic in such a small space and possibly take up too much dining room space for the U, but it would create a nice kitchen work area if done well.

The house is a 100+ year old brownstone where kitchens were hidden in the back behind closed doors, so to realize any of this we need to pull down a wall and have a header/post situation around the island/peninsula. If done well it should look pretty nice, but the layout is really tough.

For now we are bidding out the peninsula/dining room door option since it seems like a good one. Our architect, who is awesome, suggested that we get to the demolition stage, with the contractor we end up picking, and then make quick decisions based on that and then order cabinets at that point. I'd love to know what other people do in this situation, and also would be interested in any layout suggestions.

I’d love any suggestions. I’ll post floor plans with explanations.


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RE: Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

This is the architect's rendering of the least expensive renovation we could do (leaving the wall intact, there are pocket doors closest to the windows). Right now there's no kitchen at all on this floor and instead we use the future dining room as a bedroom and the future kitchen as a laundry room/office.

(I could not figure out how to upload multiple photos in the original post - would love to know how to do that for future posts.)


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RE: Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

This is the peninsula u-shaped option...


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island drawing

here's the architect's drawing of the island option.


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RE: Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

Can't you get a banquette into the lower angled area? use the recessed straight wall on the right for the back bench and chairs/stools all around the 3 other sides...place the door on the kitchen side so the angled walls with stools around that end of table are used to advantage. If not ,then I'd do an L with range wall and lower window wall with sink but without peninsula.But wow-that angled lower area-seating zone!!-if nicely done.


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RE: Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

I like herbflavor's suggestion. You could still do an L shape with the corner where the fridge is or flip the penninsula.


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RE: Layout in Brownstone Kitchen Renovation?

While I'm used to narrow clearances in NYC some of these look small. Dimensions would help.

It is a bit unusual to demo and then start cabinet shopping. Lead times on delivery for semi custom are often 5-6 weeks. Add in time to get an appointment, draw up the plans, make selections, write the order and it can get up there. There are dealers who will start to work with you at the stage you are now. Some won't, just find someone agreeable.

This post was edited by jakuvall on Fri, Feb 15, 13 at 19:35


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