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What does it take to become a kitchen designer?

sjerin
11 years ago

I know there were posts on the subject several years ago, but times change and I decided to ask the newer batch of gardenwebbers for opinions as well. A friend with a very good sense of functional design would love to ease her way into the business, without going back to school for a new degree. Is there any way this can be done? As I understand it, she'd rather not be on the selling end of cabinets, etc., only the design end--is this possible? How does one dip a toe in to get started? Thanks in advance.
Erin

Comments (9)

  • User
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Without an educational background in design, there is no real way to become an independent kitchen designer. It's not something that a bored trophy wife with a good fashion sense can just take up and just call themselves, like the term "decorator" is done. Even those who have the education and many years in cabinet design find being an independent business hard. It's not something that there is a big demand for at all, despite that being a constant question on this forum. Plenty of independents have failed and have taken jobs at paint stores, furniture stores, and even Home Depot just to pay the bills that design wasn't paying. Ask GreenDesigns on here about that. She did a post last year about that very reality.

    The best route into it is to get a job at a cabinet shop. But, be aware that there are tons of people who want just that and they have their pick of whole new crops of design graduates every year. Without some type of design degree, it will be very hard to break into the business, but it can be done if she's willing to begin at the bottom. My friend's daughter just graduated design school and went into a local cabinet shop as a greeter. She is making $10 an hour and isn't allowed to do any design work at all. Just greet customers and escort them around the showroom and make a design appointment for them if the designer isn't available. If she sticks that out for at least a year, one of the designers might start to train her on 20/20. And then if one of the designers moves on to something else, she might get a shot at being an assistant designer. And that doesn't even really involve a lot of design work.

    Or another route would be to take a $8 an hour job in the paint department at Lowes and work that for 2 years and keep applying for the non tech jobs in the kitchen department, and then when you get that job, work it for a couple of years before you prove that you are savvy enough to take the training courses that even Lowes requires to be placed in a design position. 10 years later, you're making $15 an hour.

    One of the best suggestions would be to join the NKBA and attend every single meeting of your local chapter. Networking and getting your face and name known is part of any professional job, and being a KD is no exception. Once you are a member, you can take many of the training classes that they offer at a discount and can buy the $600 reference set that she'll need to memorize in order to actually do a kitchen design. There is a LOT more to being a KD than most people realize. You have to know building codes, safety standards, appliance specs, and thousands of other technical things. Plus thousands of different cabinet choices and posibilities. And the 20/20 software. And 7 years later, if you have gotten the coursework done, you can sit for the exam to become certified.

    It IS doable. But it's not going to be overnight that she would be called a KD.

  • sjerin
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks, hollysprings, for your thorough and thoughtful explanation. She's definitely not a bored trophy wife, but enjoys the whole process so much that she hoped she could funnel her energies into an paying job. I will pass your advice on to her--thanks again.

  • User
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    After school and drudge work as a specifier and then paying my dues in the cabinet shops for 20 years, I thought I had what it takes to be a success as an independent. I did OK for a couple of years, but the housing downturn really took a bite out of even positive word of mouth recommendations. It was either give it up or declare bankruptcy.

    I took a job at a box store. Part time. Some weeks are 40 hours, and some weeks are 12. The full time positions are few, but I'm assured of one when one of my co-workers retires. If I want it. He's 70, and he just can't take the pressure from management for "more more more with less less less" anymore. Management took away the commission structure which made up the difference between the low salary and affording your light bill. And they did that with 3 days notice. What's a 70 year old guy going to do when they reduce your salary by 3/4ths? Retire and let the 50 year old have the pleasure of working twice as hard for 3/4 as much. And just being grateful to have the steady income.

    Even for those with experience and skill, the jobs are few and far between. The economy is picking up though, and I do hope that eventually it will translate to a job outside the box store for me. But, as Holly said, design schools are graduating more and younger every year. And they will usually work for less. Which is all a lot of corporate America cares about.

    Sorry, didn't mean this to be such a downer, but my advice to anyone thinking about trying to enter a design field would be to be sure and marry an electrician or plumber. You'll need the more reliable second income, and a business degree these days doesn't insure that. However, people will still pay to fix a short or unclog a toilet. Find a trade school in your town and learn HVAC. Anything like that is in high demand and pays well and will continue to do so.

    This post was edited by GreenDesigns on Sun, Feb 24, 13 at 18:38

  • islanddevil
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thought your friend may be interested in checking out Rebecca Robeson's trajectory. Shis is a very successful designer in San Diego that appears to be self taught. I've see her work in San Diego Home & Garden magazine which led me to her website. Aside from obvious talent and developing a network of craftsmen to work with, she seems to be personable and extremely ambitious with a big following on YouTube for her interior design tips and before and after big reveals. She may have started with decorating her own home, her friends and thru word of mouth, but YouTube has brought her jobs across the country and I think international. http://www.robesondesign.com/about.html

  • sjerin
    Original Author
    11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    GreenDesigns, I'm so sorry you've had such a tough time and hope you can pick up soon. Are you in a smaller town where most of the economy is still in a bad way? Thanks to everyone for taking the time to give my friend your views on the subject. I know she will greatly appreciate all the advice.

  • lisafleishman
    9 years ago

    I know this thread has a bit of age on it, but there is a path I haven't seen anyone mention yet which allows a person to gain experience without a huge outlay of cash on the front in to see if the industry is something that is even a good fit for an individual. Kitchen design *is* a lot more complicated than it seems and to go into business for oneself can be tough even if a person has been a designer for awhile.

    The trajectory I took is perhaps not typical, but it worked for me. In my former career, I worked in marketing and had quite a bit of experience in graphic design. I was looking for a change and so I sought out an arrangement in which I became a freelance designer for a cabinetry shop. I was not an employee. Rather, I was an outside partner to that business. I actively found my own client base/ leads and then ordered my product through that business. I was 100% commission, but since I didn't have the overhead of a showroom, I was able to 'earn while I learned'. This experience gave me the opportunity to find mentors and teachers, make connections in the building industry, receive training from a wide array of vendors, merchants, and folks in the trades. It also allowed me to become proficient in 2020, Prokitchen, and Chief Architect.

    The benefits of that partnership to me should be obvious. I learned a new trade and was able to transition from one career to the next without the downtime of going back to college. The benefit to the cabinet business was that they would collect a percentage of each sale I brought in and they spent no money on me as I was not an employee, and no money on client acquisition since I was the one digging the leads. I also accepted the risk of mistakes, so the risk to the existing business was nil.

    This worked well enough for me that when I took over management of that business a few years later, I continued to allow and even expand this freelance partner/ designer arrangement. Our freelance designers are welcome to come to manufacturer and CAD training we hold a few times a year if they wish. They are welcome to bring their clients to the showroom, if they wish. But at the end of the day, they are responsible for themselves because they are our partners in business, not our employees. We have both part time and full time freelancers. I imagine their paychecks vary widely, but since I do not cut them a paycheck, I couldn't comment on that part of it. Some have been in the industry for 25 years, some have been at it for less than 5. All are happy with the partnership, and the business does fine with it as well.

    Regardless of which path a potential designer takes, there's no doubt it takes grit and a whole lotta hustle. There's a lot of ways to get into the industry and all of them require hard work. Good luck!


  • PRO
    Hankins & Associates, Inc. - Kitchens and Baths
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    [ Clearly an old post that I stumbled onto. Geez, if I were a young person desiring to become a kitchen designer … then read this thread… I might find a fellow aspiring kitchen designer and do a “Thelma & Louise” (Roll Credits!). I started with an equally lengthy response as a few others, but then caught myself as, sadly, my advice was evolving equally bleak as the other posts. ]

    Why? Well, setting your sights on becoming an “Independent Kitchen Designer” is sort of like wanting to be an independent cupcake designer. Who’s going to hire you? The bakeries have their own cupcake design specialists. The cupcake consumer likely doesn’t want to spend money on a designer when the bakery is willing to offer design without charge IF they buy the cupcakes there.

    The money is in Selling the cupcake … or in this case the Cabinetry. Tell your friend if they really want to design kitchens, they better embrace Selling cabinetry. Once they’ve gotten over that mental hurdle, then it'll become a “where to go.”

    Ok, the home center for $8.00 an hour in the paint department? Ugh ... No. "Starting at the bottom" in the world of Kitchen Design doesn’t (shouldn’t) begin in the paint department. Once you’ve mastered paint-tinting and shaking … eventually making your way to the kitchen department … you’ll not Really be “Designing”. You'll be helping homeowners to fill a room with Boxes using 20/20 software while clicking menu prompts.

    To anyone wanting to “dip a toe in”. Well, right off the bat ... if you’re not in it for the money -- Great! Find a top-notch kitchen dealership or cabinet shop and see if they need help “drafting” … yes, drafting. Surround yourself with individuals who are very creative and really good at what they do.

    Finally, your space planning abilities and spatial coherence has to be good; I personally think you’ve got it … or you don’t. True can be said about virtually any discipline. Let’s face it … some people weren’t born to play the piano … some people weren’t born to be a kitchen designer.

  • PRO
    Jean Nist Design
    6 years ago
    last modified: 6 years ago

    I know this is an old thread, but this topic comes up onthis forum every now and then.

    I’m an independent kitchen designer, but I make most of my income from selling cabinets. Anyone looking to remodel their kitchen can usually get free design from any cabinet retailer, so the design-only jobs are pretty rare. Your friend would not likely be able to make a living doing only kitchen design.

    A million years ago I started my career in Graphic Design, and then I went into Interior Design working for a small local fabric/wallpaper/paint store (this was well before the Internet, when people bought wallpaper in stores). I also spent a few years in an unrelated field as an outside sales rep. I found a job at a local lumberyard as a kitchen designer, selling cabinets. They were willing to train me – since I had experience in design and sales, learning the cabinet part was basically technical. It’s actually hard for a cabinet showroom to find new employees – anyone in the field that is employed tends to not move around much. The box stores are the bottom of the food chain in this business, and someone who is good at a job there might be able to transition up into a dealer showroom.

    I am not a CKD, and I’m not even a member of NKBA. I have experience, and a good local reputation, which means more than certifications and degrees. After 20 years working for others in showrooms, a few years ago I decided to go out on my own. I have a lot of contacts and get referrals from past clients and contractors. I use local cabinet showrooms that charge me a small percentage to buy cabinets from them – most cabinet manufacturers will not sell you cabinets without a showroom with displays. (I also have a cabinet line that doesn’t require a showroom, and use them as well.) My overhead is very low, so even with paying a bit more for the cabinets, my prices are better than through
    most dealers. I do get some jobs that are design only, and I charge an hourly fee for that, but I consider that as just something extra. I’d be homeless if I depended on that as my main income.

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