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Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Posted by kaysd (My Page) on
Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 14:44

I am having a very hard time choosing lighting for over our 4.5' x 8' island. My first choice would probably be 3 or 5 mini pendants hung at different heights and not in a straight line. Unfortunately, we have a wood ceiling with no attic above, so each separate light requires wires to be run over the roof in conduit with a hole poked through the roof into the kitchen ceiling. DH wants to minimize the number of holes because he is worried about roof leaks, plus GC charges $400 for each extra hole through the roof. Because of our ceiling, we cannot have any recessed cans, so the island lighting has to provide good light for the room. We will also have under and over cabinet lighting, a long fluorescent up/down sconce over the pantry and wall ovens, and two recessed positionable satin nickel "eyeball" lights in the soffit over the window bumpout. (The track lighting shown over the sink in the sketch below is not being used.)

My designer suggested a S-shaped track with 3 pendants by Tech Lighting because it will only require 1 hole and allows the lights to not be in a straight line. (She has advised against any linear fixtures because the island does not line up with the range and hood and she thinks a long straight line above the island will highlight the issue.) I am considering the Echo and Essex pendants, both approximately 9" h x 5" w. Unfortunately, the Tech system came back at $2,000, which is way more than I expected.

DH and I both like the Eurofase Dervish drum pendant. It has 3 "concentric curved panels to form a drum shade, the pieces spaced to give the illusion that they are floating in alignment." It is 5.5" high and comes in 15" ($360) and 22" ($540) diameter. It would require a second hole through the roof and higher install cost, but the fixtures are much less expensive.

Our kitchen will be modern, with a mix of sleek and rustic: walnut slab cabinets, White Macauba counters, SS Gaggenau refrigeration columns and other SS appliances, stained fir ceiling, stone-look porcelain floor, chrome faucets, some frosted glass.

What do you think would look better scale and style wise: an S track with three 9"h x 5"w pendants or 2 larger drum pendants (either 15" or 22")? Or something else entirely?

Kitchen layout:

Sleek SS fridges, but surrounded by walnut cabinetry:

Tech Essex pendants:

Tech Echo pendants (multiple colors available):

Dervish pendant in Chrome:

Dervish pendant in satin nickel:

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RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

First of all, I cannot wait to see your finished kitchen! Your style is very close to ours. I love what you're showing so far.

Regarding the lights, I think you need 3 because you'd have to line up 2 lights in some fashion which would mess with your alignment to the range as you mentioned. I do like your designer's idea of the S-track. The Tech Echo lights are on our short list as well.

And though those Dervish pendants are awfully cool, I'm not sure they will work for you.

But I'm no expert! :)

p.s. I think the curved lines will be nice against all the angles.

This post was edited by ck_squared on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 18:24

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Thanks, CK. Our cabinets are supposed to be installed in 2 weeks -- can't wait! But now I have to deal with the last remaining details ASAP, lol.

My designer said that if I didn't want to use the track, 2 or 3 individual fixtures would be ok, even 2 in a line, but a single, long linear fixture would not be.

Do you think three 5" diameter pendants are large enough in scale for a 54" x 96" island?

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Honestly, I think it's just about perfect.

You'd have one light at say the 1 1/2 ft. mark, one at 4 ft. and one at the 6 1/2 ft mark.
(I just put my tape measure out to 96" and envisioned the spacing of the lights.)

Hoping others will chime in here with their expert opinions.

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

I have Tech's Otto pendants so I know what you mean about them being budget busters but I am glad I splurged on them. They look good both on and off. I don't think you can go wrong with either of your choices. If you want to introduce a little color though the Echo is a good way to do it It looks like the Essex is low voltage and the Echo is line voltage. Don't know if that makes a big difference or not. My Otto pendants are low voltage 50 watt halogen. They give off very nice light.
I definitely think you need 3 lights for the size of your island if you go with the Tech pendants because they are pretty streamlined. My island is about 87 inches and my pendants are about 4.5 x 7. I went with 3 and would not want less than that.
Just for comparison here is a picture of mine. Note, I did raise the one directly above the sink a little higher than the other two.
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And here is how it looks lit. I think the Echo would look similar with the white diffuser in it.
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RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

btt for kay

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Wow, your kitchen is going to be gorgeous! Of the lights you have shown, I like the Tech Echo pendants the best. I'm honestly not a big fan of the curvy track and would probably line them up centered on the island regardless of the range positioning.

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Gorgeous! I like both tech pendants and I would spend the extra money for the extra holes.

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

I think you should shop around for track lighting. The S-track with 3 pendants or 4 feels right and I agree with your DH about minimizing holes.. Especially in your situation.

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

I like the Dervish in nickle. Three is better than two, for sure. Wonderful kitchen!

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

Badgergal, your Otto pendants are beautiful and look so great with your tile BS. I noticed the height difference in your reveal post -- looks good.

Pricklypear, I've debated the curvy track a lot. This island lighting issue is going to give me an ulcer, lol.

Amanda, thanks, I like both Tech pendants too. When you say I should pay for more holes, do you mean I should use those pendants without a track?

GWlolo, believe me, I have been shopping around a lot for track systems. Because of our vaulted ceiling, which is 10' high above the island, I need a system that has 2' rigid supports as an option. That seems to eliminate most companies. We were originally going with a Bruck system with their Rome pendant, but my designer did not like their cable supports and how many would be required. (Plus, the cost was not any lower.)

Hosenemesis, I'm glad to hear you like the Dervish too. I think 3 of them would be too much for an 8' island.

Just to clarify, I am trying to decide between using 3 smaller pendants, like the 5" diameter Tech pendants, or 2 larger (15" or 22" diameter) pendants, like the Dervish. I welcome more comments on which option is better for an 8' x 4.5' island. TIA!

RE: Island pendants � need help choosing, please

I vote for three Tech Echos. I think they're a great match with your kitchen, and are interesting while not taking up a lot of space visually. The Dervish is nice, but is that what you want everyone to notice first? Maybe it is, and that's fine. I think you should probably do two if you go with the 22" Dervish -- install them one foot from each end of the island, so that's two feet of space; they each take up about two feet of space, so now we're up to 6 feet of space (four total for the two pendants, plus the two feet, one at either end). If you space them two feet apart, that's good spacing. There is that new lighting forum. Maybe you can find more knowledge over there. Best of luck!

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