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arbordomus

Small kitchen - Big success

arbordomus
15 years ago

We have just completed our kitchen renovation and since we gained so much from this forum during our research, we wanted to contribute these notes of our experience to possibly help or inspire someone else. It is long, but hopefully not tedious.

There were several motivating concepts that drove our design:

-The space we had was 'land locked' by a stair and back door that we did not want to move. We also did not want to make any changes to the exterior walls or windows to contain the cost.

-Use appliances, materials and details that are the easiest to clean and maintain.

-Establish the budget necessary to obtain good quality appliances, materials and construction with limited regard for high-end design or decoration.

-We felt that it was within our capabilities to lay out the kitchen as well as design custom elements to achieve an optimum design. We are confident that one can trade research for experience in matters like this but knowing one's limitations is the key to success.

-We were able to accomplish much of the carpentry and all of the plumbing and electrical as a means to reduce cost while gaining the highest quality in materials, installation and function.

-We have lived in our house for 25 years and have made the decision to stay here as long as we can, thus making investments to meet our personal objectives, both short- and long-term, with only modest concern for resale.

-We have a master plan that has evolved for fifteen years encompassing interior and exterior renovations. The kitchen area has been under consideration for this entire time with many concepts, ideas and experiments contributing to the final design.

Since we simply had too much kitchen to put into the space available, it was necessary to move some of it into another area. As it happened, several years ago we built a screened porch onto the back of our house and added a door for access from a back bedroom. At that time (as part of the master plan) we decided to turn this room into a utility space so in our present concept we included a desk area to act as command central and a 'buffet' as storage and display space for our pottery, dinnerware and large service pieces. In the kitchen proper we have only a few basic service pieces with four place settings of daily dishes, retrieving what we need for events and rotating settings on a monthly basis.

When our house was built in 1928 there were no refrigerators so our fridge was crammed into a small closet at the back door a few steps away from the kitchen. Thing one was to move the refrigerator into the kitchen. In so doing we would make it possible to have a passageway between the kitchen and the new utility area with a straight path to our beloved porch. We had to move a radiator, however, before any work could begin.

The next major change was to remove the bearing wall between the kitchen and dining room to make way for a peninsula that would give us more work space and open up the whole area. This required installing a beam as well as moving another radiator that had piping running in that wall. Both challenging conditions that required some careful thought. We developed techniques to remove the original studs and install the new beam while leaving the top 12" of the dining room lath and plaster in place to avoid having to rebuild a cove and picture rail or match the existing textured plaster surface. We were able to fit new columns into the existing wall cavities for a flush finish. There was a good chunk of engineering and additional construction that went into this to deal with eccentric loads so it is not for the faint of heart.

Removing the dining room wall and adding the passageway to the utility space made it feasible to block up the door from the old kitchen to the central hallway making this space available for the cooking area. The space for the doorway also made it simple to install a duct for the hood with an inline fan mounted in the joist space below. This avoided lost cabinet space above the cooktop or construction for overhead ducting. We were then able to use the space over the cooktop for the microwave. We built a recess into the wall so that, in addition to 15" deep cabinets at the cooking area, it was possible to install the countertop-sized microwave that we wanted.

The cleanup area remained approximately where it was to avoid moving major plumbing. Our master plan fell down here just a bit since we actually moved the sink over a couple of feet and piping that we had installed several years ago in a laundry room renovation just below the kitchen had to be moved. Oh well. The plumbing lines for the sink and dishwasher were very carefully laid out and some of it was even mocked up to be able to reduce the space dedicated to plumbing to an absolute minimum.

We removed a broom closet from the kitchen and moved that function to an existing closet in the utility space. We had the old fir floor removed and replaced with narrow red oak to match the rest of the flooring on the first level (something we could not handle). We removed old wall lath and plaster up to 54" to simplify electrical, plumbing and cabinetry installation, but did not remove the rest of the wall or the ceiling since it was sound. It is a tossup as to whether one removes and reinstalls walls and ceiling. New drywall is nice to work with but because we were doing the work, it was possible to match surfaces and retain old materials rather than filling a dumpster. One of the first construction tasks, however, was to get new light fixtures into the old lath and plaster ceiling. Careful layout and a RotoZip saw with circle attachment made it happen.

And the desk and buffet...

Some of the interesting things that we did:

-Induction cooktop for simplicity of use and ease of cleaning. This is a wonderful device. We chose the GE 30" since it was available with a frameless glass surface, fit into standard cabinetry, met our space limitations and had an optimum configuration of burners. There are others with more features and maybe even better layout, but they were eliminated for one reason or another, not the least of which was cost. (We also have a full set of Le Creuset cookware. After a month of use we are *very* pleased. We had dual fuel before and find that the heating is more uniform in the pan and much more responsive.)

-Restaurant-grade undercabinet coffee maker to clear the counter (BrewMatic BICA). This unit is hooked up to filtered water and only hums a bit when it runs. It draws 14 amps, however! Very industrial strength.

-Central filtered water system in the laundry area below with runs to the coffee maker, refrigerator ice maker and faucet at the sink. We used 1/4" polyethylene tubing rated for high pressure use with inserts at the connections. We have used this detail for 12 years now without a problem.

-We could not find a hood that met our particular requirements so we engineered our own. It took a bit of research and discussion to find a fabricator, but the folks we found cut it out of 16ga stainless steel with a laser and folded it up like origami. The front edge is tempered glass to let in light and provide visibility. The fan is rated 400 cfm from Fantech. We had some acoustic and noise control issues that needed to be worked out, but it just hums now.

-Bosch 500 series wall oven installed below the cooktop. We chose the 500 series because it has knobs for most functions that are easier to use than touchpads at this height. The oven is 27" wide to provide ventilation space around the unit so as not to overheat itself or the cooktop. We used filler panels instead of a cabinet for the installation since the unit is 24" deep. Bosch was rated very high by Consumer Reports.

-18" dishwasher to gain cabinet space. We chose the smaller unit based on the experience of friends and since it is just the two of us most times. We run it daily since it uses less water to do a load of dishes than we would use doing them by hand. We chose a Bosch since it was the only 18" unit with a stainless tub. It was a fully integrated unit, however, that required some thought to fit with a door. This brand was also rated high by Consumer Reports.

-Full-size microwave over the cooktop. We wanted a full-sized microwave, but did not have counter or wall space and since we have had a full-size microwave over the range on a shelf for 20 years (but without a hood) we wanted to replicate that again. We designed a simple shelf into the cabinetry and with the recess noted above it works great. We chose an Amana unit because it was the largest unit that would meet our depth limitations and was also rated high in Consumer Reports.

-The refrigerator/freezer is an existing Amana that we chose because it had a bottom-mounted freezer. The surrounding cabinetry is 24" deep but it seems to integrate well enough.

-We installed a foot-operated valve (Fischer #3070) with mixing valve (Legend Anti-scald) at the sink to make it possible to rinse hands without touching the faucet. This installation bypasses the faucet valve but uses the spray head thanks to some specialized fittings we had to make. We are finding it to be very useful. We can use two hands to hold a pot that is filling and since it operates more quickly, we will often use that for a short blast of water rather than operating the faucet. The mixing valve is set for 110 degrees to avoid scalds when the water in the lines is hot. We need to add water hammer chambers, however.

-Multi-level, zoned lighting to avoid the need for undercabinet fixtures. There are two surface-mounted lights at the ceiling for general illumination even into the highest cabinets. Five downlights are recessed into the ceiling for high-level illumination on the work surfaces. Pendant lights at the peninsula provide supplementary work light but are dimmed for ambient use. Miniature downlights over the sink provide additional work light there but are also dimmed to provide ambience and grazing illumination on the wall. The hood has supplementary lights as well.

-We chose Moen for the faucet (Camerist, comes in ORB and has pull-out sprayer functions), soap dispenser and filtered water faucet so these items would have the same finish. As part of the master plan, we standardized on Moen faucets 25 years ago so that we now have only one type of cartridge in six faucets and valves to simplify maintenance.

-Corian counters were used to gain a seamless undermount sink (#874, a 1-3/4 unit that works great for us with a small dish drainer on the counter) as well as ease of cleaning, maintenance and repair. In fact, the installer (Corian can only be installed by certified installers) located the cutout for the cooktop 1" off so the opening had to be 'moved'. It is only possible to see the correction by careful examination of where it was done.

-We wanted oil rubbed bronze baskets for both the disposer and deep side of the sink so they would match as well as provide some protection from things going into the disposer inadvertently. Our disposer was a WasteKing (highly rated) which required an adapter since there are not many baskets (Cucina) available for disposers.

-The stone tile backsplash was chosen to remind us of Italy where we spent a couple of wonderful weeks last spring.

-Finally, we are building a mechanism to open the garbage bin by pressing a switch with one's toe.

We feel that we did a great deal with a small space and limited budget, challenges that are faced by many. Here are some of the ways that we met this challenge:

-Used stock cabinets (Thomasville) from Home Depot. There are many details that would be done better by custom fabrication, but at commensurate increase in cost. We chose the best construction materials and operational components, however, to maximize durability.

-We had Home Depot install the cabinets as well to avoid sales tax and our own learning curve with some detail carpentry. It also made it simpler to resolve several issues caused by field conditions, saving us money in the end.

-We chose a simple style of door and molding. In our case a plain overlay style was the only one available in the wood we wanted (hickory; it is very hard and dense which we chose for durability as well as look) but it also simplified the installation details of many other components.

-We purchased nearly everything except the cabinets and counters online. We have had very good experience with this in the past and we clearly knew what we wanted. In addition, it gave us access to a broader range of components and manufacturers so that we could get exactly what we needed.

-Limit the scope of the work when possible. While one does not want to build-in long-term problems to avoid construction issues, there just might be simpler or less invasive ways to accomplish some things.

-Do as much work on your own as possible. We are thankful to be in the special situation to have the skills, tools and time for this, but many elements of the work seemed daunting prior to starting but with care and thought we got it done.

-More than anything else, it was careful planning that made it all work out in the end. Detailed drawings of all of the appliances showing clearances and installation requirements, full-scale drawings and mockups of some areas to be sure it would work (we joke that beneath our sink is like the engine compartment of a Ferrari) and a lot of research (much of it right here) to gain as much knowledge as possible from the experience of others.

Comments (39)

  • worldmom
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It's lovely! I especially like the pendants over your peninsula.

    Could you please box up your old cabinets and ship them to me? They are fabulous! I hope you were able to donate or sell them to someone with an older home. They're just like what we're putting in. :o)

  • busybme
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Really good job, arbordomus! Thank you for sharing so much of your story/journey. Your space is lovely and it looks like you guys have done a first-rate job!

    I especially like your picture over the sink. At first, I thought that it was window...that is a good visual trick!

    Sandy

  • chinchette
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Nice! And a great use of the space. I love how you left some room for art.

  • mamadadapaige
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    WOW! it looks fantastic - you must be so pleased. I love your cabinets and the ORB hardware you chose. I really like the DW panel (at least that is what I think it is (to the left of the fridge). Your kitchen has a really custom look to it and that you achieved that with stock cabinets from HD is credit to you for all the care and thought you put into the multitude of details. It really shows. I also really like the pendants over your peninsula. They tie in really nicely with your overall look. Congratulations and thanks so much for all the details - great post and fun to read.

    ps: were the cabinets expensive?

  • caligal
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    There have been some really awesome transformations on GW lately.
    Yours is one of them. Love the cabinets and the Corian. Great view from your sink window ;>).

  • danielle00
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    huge improvmement. I bet you are enjoying your new layout. enjoy your new space! I also loved your narrative-- I wish more people would give those sorts of details.

  • pluckymama
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Love your kitchen. Great job and thank you for the details. What a wonderful transformation.

  • raenjapan
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Looks fantastic! I have a question about your foot-operated valve. Is this different than a tapmaster? A cheaper way to achieve the same thing?

  • gardenburgher
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am continually amazed at the wonderful transformations made by DIYers. You've obviously put a lot of thought and planning into your kitchen. As someone with a tiny, inefficient kitchen, I can appreciate your wonderful changes.

  • kitchen1921
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I can't stop laughing at this. We have a house built in 1921 with a very similar layout (back stairs, back door, etc.) and picked almost all the same stuff you did for the same reasons. We're even knocking out the wall between the kitchen and butler's pantry area. Ours will look different as far as cabinet colors and appliance finishes, but we, too have a Bosch 500 (because of the knobs) under an induction cooktop, and the 18" Bosch dishwasher, plus Corian counters and a bottom-freezer fridge ...

    Anyway, it looks great! I really love your cabinets, we couldn't do that look in our house because of all the existing wood (would have clashed) but I do love hickory ... we put in hickory floors in our previous house and I looooooved them.

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks to everyone for your kind comments.

    -Old cabinets were built in place using cleats at the wall. They had no backs!

    -Pendants are by Kichler. We found them by using "pinecone mini-pendant" in Google.

    -Cabinets were above average in cost but we wanted specific elements.

    -The foot valve is a separate water flow system that bypasses the faucet valve. Tapmaster uses the faucet to regulate temperature and flow. Tapmaster can be fitted to almost any faucet but it is then necessary to use that method for control all of the time. Ours makes it possible to use either the foot valve or the faucet as needed. In the end the cost is nearly the same but it requires a pull-out style of faucet and a custom fitting at the pull-out hose to bring the foot- and faucet-flows back together as well as some special plumbing and cabinet work.

  • donna214
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    What a wonderful transformation. It is a beutiful space and you must really be enjoying it.

  • trixieinthegarden
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Your new kitchen is lovely, but to me the true beauty is in the clever engineering you've done! An OTR microwave AND a fan? A glass edge on the fan to let in light? Genius!! And the outdoor scene above the sink is as good as a window. Bravo! Job well done.

  • 3katz4me
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I love your new kitchen. There is something (or probably a few things) refreshingly "unique" about it and I love things that don't look just like all the rest. It's also nice to see a kitchen remodel of a very challenging space vs. one that is more of matter of filling a large to enormous rectangular room with over the top appliances and cabinetry. I'm not usually a big fan of white appliances but I really like the look in your kitchen - along with the cabinets and clean, fresh looking non-granite counters. It all looks great!!

  • mama2c
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I love your over-the-sink solution. I have a sink on an interior wall, and have been trying to figure out what to do with that. I love the idea of extending the crown across the sink space and have the lighting come from there.

  • bbstx
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Bravo/Brava! Job well done!

  • sunfeather
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Looks wonderful. Do you like your faucet?

  • karena_2009
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I just love hearing stories such as yours. It just goes to show that so much can be done in a small space, yet you managed the compromises beautifully. Thank you so much for sharing your experiences. I can tell that you really thought about all the details thoroughly.

    The kitchen looks fabulous and I love the lighting. It looks warm and inviting. I'm sure you are going to enjoy it for a long time. I hope I can get as good results when I'm finished with my kitchen project; then I'd be happy :-).

  • vicnsb
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Your outcome is fantastic, congratulations!
    I think its great that you detail so much of your work and thought
    process...it really is a help to others.
    vic

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you to those interested, once again, for your kind comments.

    rrs626: The faucet works great for us. It took a bit to get used to the 'backhand' grip required with this unit since the head is smaller than other pullouts we have had or seen.

    The details are everything. Just today I added a small sheet of plastic material to the underside of the countertop at the dishwasher so that 10 years from now the plywood substrate under the Corian is not warped and deteriorating from the moisture that condenses when opening the dishwasher door.

    (Just checking - the small images come in pairs side by side. On a friend's computer using IE there was only one.
    I know that IE has a lot of rendering bugs and I use Firefox so it looks fine to me. Any comments? There are tricks one can use to make IE work right but I did not include any in the post.)

  • caryscott
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It looks fantastic. I alway thought Thomasville was considered a "semi-custom" line while American Woodmark is the "stock" product at HD (along with Mill's Pride). Maybe it is just in Canada where Thomasville is only available as a frameless product. The lines sort of blur together at the box stores sometimes.

  • davidro1
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Good work on the range hood. I see a 3" x 14" opening in the wall before rebuilding. I see a glass pullout that seems to be sloped a little.

    Can you tell us more about the glass? Did you get it as parts from another hood? Does it activate the blower or anything? Is there a light behind it?

    -david

  • plllog
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Big success, indeed! I especially love the view over the sink! Very clever way to deal with that corner.

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    David - the opening is 2-1/2 x 10 which is sized to match the 6" duct used for the horizontal runs below. The hood is 3" high at the back tapering to 2" high just behind the glass. The glass is simply a 1/4" tempered panel adhered to a flange at the hood frame with silicone. It does not pull out. The body of the hood is 15" deep as are the cabinets and the glass adds another 3" to the overall capture depth. We engineered the hood so that the airflow is concentrated at the perimeter making the hood 'appear' larger than it is to rising steam or hot air for more effective capture than with canopy style hoods.

  • twinkletoesmomma
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow! What a difference!

    Can you tell me more about using filler parts instead of a cabinet for the oven installation?
    Thanks!

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Twinkle - Thank you for your comment.

    First, the cabinets on either side of the oven need to be securely installed. Then, build a base from 2x4 and plywood that the oven will sit on. Develop the height to locate the oven properly. We moved our oven up as high as possible without conflicting with the cooktop. Locate the base to match the toe space of the adjacent cabinets. Shim the base level and secure it to the floor.

    Next, you will need three pieces of filler that match the cabinetry, each secured in place with pocket screws. (There are other ways to make this work depending on your joinery capabilities.) The pieces at the side are equal width and the piece across the top depends on the geometry of your oven. The piece spanning across should also provide some structural strength to support the counter. We added a plywood plate below this section of counter as well. The back of the counter across this area is supported by a cleat secured to the wall.

    Finally, the toe board is a single piece that spans across the bank of cabinets. It may be necessary to fabricate a matching toe board to span this unit if this is not the case for yours.

    This oven secures to the side rails with a couple of screws. There is a generous airspace at the front edge for ventilation, but this oven has its own internal cooling fan so we have not needed to provide any more.

  • quietlife3
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wow - your kitchen looks really great. Congratulations on a job well done! I also have a question for you...do you mind sharing the approximate cost of your cabinets? Do you happen to remember the price per linear foot? We are most likely going to be using stock cabinetry since we are on a budget and yours are just gorgeous. We would love to have hickory cabinets. Thank you.

  • mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Really beautiful! Great use of materials and space. Congrats!

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Quietlife - total for the three locations was $13K (installation an additional $4K). That works out to $411 per foot, $537 installed). Counters were $5.5K (installed) for 77 sf with 18 ft of coved backsplash and an undermount sink. We chose to have the cabinets installed to save $950 in sales tax and avoid a learning curve on the cove molding.

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Woops - forgot about the peninsula. The cabinet footage cost is $336 materials and $439 installed.

  • starpooh
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi arbordomus ~

    Wow! How did I miss your finished kitchen? (Well you tricked me... I search for the word "finished" but you used "completed" instead. I gotta remember that one... )

    Anyhow may I archive your kitchen in the Finished Kitchens Blog? There are lots of folks specifically looking for small kitchens.
    If so please submit the FKB Category Checklist to give your permission.
    Thank you!

    Here is a link that might be useful: FKB Category Checklist

  • Maria410
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I love your kitchen and your choices -- love the hickory!! Also love how open the kitchen now feels and is I am sure!! I see you like white appliances too!! We love them and just bought an American Range in white to match the existing refrigerator and dishwasher.

  • buddyrose
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    very, very lovely. I love the wood grain in your cabinets and those ORB pendants and the hardware and... well ... everything. ;-)

  • User
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    you did a great job customizing the kitchen to meet your needs--i especially adore the idea of a hands-free sink (i wish i could have one retrofitted). have fun enjoying your kitchen!

  • candibarr
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Wonderful! I'm very impressed by your custom hood. How did you handle the grease trap? Do you have access to the in-line fan for possible replacement?

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thank you to all the kind comments as this message finds new life. Four months on everything is working great and there is nothing that I would like to change.

    candibarr - We had filters custom fabricated from filtersolution.com. I am going to get new ones that fit in the dishwasher. The fan is between the joist below suspended from a metal sling that provides noise isolation and is fully accessible.

  • ponotte
    15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I love your thought process, and that the result is gorgeous makes it that much better!

  • jdougjo
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    How do you like the Brewmatic? Can you share any details on how you plumbed and wired it?

    I'm specifically interested in where you brought the 1/4" water supply out. Does it come out from behind the fridge? Or through the backsplash? Or down from the cabinet?

    Did you put an electrical outlet right behind? Or, do you run the cord behind the fridge?

    Thanks

  • arbordomus
    Original Author
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The Brewmatic is great! It connects to a receptacle behind it in the backsplash wall and is fed by a 1/4" line that runs in the wall and pokes out behind the unit as well. I ran the water line in a piece of 3/8" flexible electrical conduit that extends to the basement where I have the water filter. This provides protection to the water line as well as providing the means to replace it if needed in the future. I simply grouted around the water line as it comes through the tile and that seems to be working well. Extra cord and water line are coiled and tied and tucked up behind the unit.