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Cost for glazing site built cabinets

carsonheim
9 years ago

I am in the midst of a new home build. Our cabinets are fully custom, built in site. The quote to add glazing to the cabinets after painting is an additional 1200 dollars. Is this a reasonable price? Our kitchen is appx 13x16. Thx!

Comments (21)

  • millworkman
    9 years ago

    Glazing as in glass? If glass, how many cabinets? Approximate size? What type or pattern glass?

  • Mrs_Nyefnyef
    9 years ago

    Do you really need your cabinets glazed? There is a view that glazed cabinets is a dated look. If you love the look then that viewpoint doesn't matter. Regardless, if glazing the finish isn't done really well, it can cross the line from looking charmingly antiqued to shabby and/or fake. Have you seen glazed cabinets from your cabinetmaker on other jobs? If not, you should, before you spend this extra money.

  • carsonheim
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Live oak- wow. I thought it was a lot. Just to be clear this upcharge is on top of the cost for the painting,

  • avntgardnr
    9 years ago

    I just checked our quote, unfortunately I don't have a separate quote for hand glazing (we paid per square foot for a custom built cabinet) but it is a very involved process.
    Our builder used one person to apply the glaze, so it would look uniform on all of the cabinets.
    I think it was at least an additional $35 per ft foot...which in our kitchen would have been around $2800.
    I would definitely see his samples and look at other kitchens he has done with glazing.

  • GreenDesigns
    9 years ago

    Such a low price coupled with site built cabinets means that you are not really dealing with a cabinet maker or cabinet finisher.

  • Fori
    9 years ago

    Just curious: are they actually built on site or just built in large chunks instead of modular?

    I don't think you'll miss the glazing if you skip it.

  • carsonheim
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    green -- the cabinet maker is not the one doing the glazing -- the painter is. And believe me, the site built cabinets are NOT low priced -- oh how I wish they were!

    fori -- cabinets are custom built right in our home. I wanted the cabinets to be slightly different from the rest of trim in the house (BM Navajo White) and thought a really subtle glazing would do that and bring out the details of our doors and such.

    here's a photo. Maybe just choose another color for the cabs that's a tad richer? The walls will be BM putnam ivory at 50% (This sample doesn't show the 50% intensity)

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  • sahmmy_gw
    9 years ago

    Very pretty cabinets! Your kitchen is going to be gorgeous, and I can't wait to see your final Reveal post. Love the base drawers and the cabinetry over the cooktop area. $1200 for glazing that amount of cabinets with that amount of panelling sounds super low. And, re glazing - I can only tell you that my sister had her site-built cabinets glazed on site. Her kitchen was expensive, with Subzero/Wolf appliances, elaborate millwork, corbels, cabinets up to a 10' ceiling. She loves the kitchen, but regrets the glazing. She notices (even if other people don't) how the glaze is too heavy in spots, and she jokes that--according to her--the glazing makes her kitchen look like "ye olde kitchen" when it's obvious her home was built about 20 years ago. Idk if the skill of her cabinet finisher/glazer was the problem, or if just glazing in general in certain homes doesn't work. As others have said, you should see kitchens that your painter/finisher has glazed, and make sure you like the look and/or how he does it.

    P.S. Can you please provide info on the backsplash that you have pictured? Are there raised panels there? What is the space next to the cooktop? Will that be a spice holder? Sorry for my ignorance!

    This post was edited by Sahmmy on Thu, Jan 29, 15 at 8:33

  • ajc71
    9 years ago

    "Such a low price coupled with site built cabinets means that you are not really dealing with a cabinet maker or cabinet finisher."

    Sure looks like a competent cabinet maker to me....is the painter someone the cabinetmaker or GC recommended? If so I would not hesitate to use them, quality of the work that these people are producing speaks for itself....

  • carsonheim
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Sahmmy -- the backsplash is wooden panels, reflecting the theme seen throughout the house. I loved how this looked and wanted something similar

    [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Doylestown Kitchen & Bath Designers Superior Woodcraft, Inc.

    That little black hole you see next to the cooktop area is a passthru into our pantry. When I'm gathering up ingredients I can just shove everything through the hole onto my counter

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    [Contemporary Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/contemporary-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2103) by Atlanta General Contractors David Favero

    ajc -- the painter is not recommended by the cabinetmaker. He was referred to me by a friend and has excellent reviews on Angies List.

    Now I'm leaning toward not doing the glazing. Here is the inspiration photo for my kitchen, and as you can see, the cabinets are a very warm creamy color and don't look to be glazed, but still have good definition on the details:

    [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Chatham Architects & Building Designers Siemasko + Verbridge

  • ajc71
    9 years ago

    Funny that your inspiration pic is from S+V, just finishing up a project with them.....one of the best architect/interior design firms in the area (in my opinion)

    Seeing as this is a picture of a Downsview kitchen I would not be surprised at all if there was a subtle glaze...they are well known for the high quality finishes and hand applied glazes

    Glazing means different things to different people....some people have the impression that glazing is applied to create strong highlights and that for sure can look dated/cheap

    Downsview and other high end brands offer a hand painted/applied glass that is very subtle and looks fantastic when done properly....should very slightly highlight moldings, and when done properly the glaze is applied to run in the same direction as the stiles and rails of the doors...not easy and takes a very steady hand

  • avntgardnr
    9 years ago

    I have no other input but wanted to say....I'm excited to see the finished product. It's beautiful so far and I love your inspiration photos! The color in that first pic is lovely...I almost think glazing something like that would be a shame (we have a glazed stained cabinet so I'm not opposed).

  • carsonheim
    Original Author
    9 years ago

    Taking this in a slightly different direction, but hoping to get some input here.

    All along, I had been wanting white marble counters in the kitchen. However, I'm wondering if the white would make the whole kitchen too pale? I do have medium brown wood floors, so that will add a little more richness. I used the Benjamin Moore Color visualizing tool to (very poorly) color my kitchen with the paint colors I plan to use. Navajo White, Putnam Ivory (although I was planning to do it 50% saturation -- this shows full saturation) and Palladian Blue ceiling.

    Should I go with a black or brown granite on counters rather than the white marble? What sayeth the forum???

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  • szruns
    9 years ago

    I love the blue ceiling!

    That's all. Just had to say I love the blue ceiling!! :)

    You're going to have a great kitchen!

  • cookncarpenter
    9 years ago

    Love your site built cabs, old school like me;)
    I'm seeing soapstone as the perfect compliment/contrast, but might be a bit too informal for your look?...chris

  • _sophiewheeler
    9 years ago

    The cabinet maker evidently has a clue about woodworking, but if that isn't followed up with an expert finisher, it's all for naught. It's very surprising that he wouldn't have a partner to do the finish work. Or wouldn't give you a recommendation. It's like turning loose a custom coach built Italian car over to Maaco to finish in your driveway.

    You do NOT want a ''painter'' here. They make the worst cabinet finishers. You want a furniture finisher. Someone who understands wood. And someone who won't use paint! I'll say that again. Someone who won't head off to their local Duron outlet and grab 5 gallons of the cheapet paint in the ''matched'' color to what you ask for.

    A good cabinet finisher will use a high solids catalyzed lacquer for opaque finishes. Only. And he will present you several color sample from which to pick. You don't match traditional paint coatings to a paint system that doesn't even use the same pigments or tints.

    And you don't have a painter glop on lacquer with a brush either. He has to have the right HVLP spray rig and cleanup chemicals. Anfd the right setting to shoot. A building site is never the right setting for fine finishing to be done. Too much trash, dust, bugs, and interference from other trades needing access. The site has to be heated, but no air currents swirling around, and no one walking through it. Good luck accomplishing that in the middle of a build! But, it HAS to happen if you want a quality finish.

  • ajc71
    9 years ago

    hollysprings:

    While I find myself agreeing with most of your posts, I have to disagree with this one...

    There are certainly some "painters" that are just that painters and I would agree they should not be touching higher end cabinetry

    BUT

    There are also many professional painters that can produce beautiful finishes on-site....by hand not sprayed, again this is not for the average painter and for sure you are not going to find this person on craigslist

    I have done many kitchens from well known manufactures that supply cabinets either shop primed or even totally raw and have their painters paint on-site....and the finishes are absolutely stunning, in some cases you just can not beat a hand applied finish

  • GreenDesigns
    9 years ago

    OK, after seeing the pictures, the cabinet maker IS a cabinet maker. But, I'll agree with Holly about the finishing making or breaking the result. While you can occasionally find painters who are also good cabinet finishers, it's the exception, NOT the rule. The cabinet maker should already know the folks that can produce the right quality finish. The OP should NOT be having to scour trades review sites and Craigslist for someone to do the job. That speaks to a scarcity of qualified individuals to do the level of job that needs to be done here. You may have to go outside the geographical area for someone to do what needs to be done here. And you DO need to cordon off the room to keep debris infiltration to a minimum. That's going to PO the GC probably if he's your typical time is money guy. It's not a quick and easy process to get a good finish.

  • ardcp
    9 years ago

    hollysprings - just so you know, i was watching hgtv's show fixer upper (in waco tx) and they showed the raw cabinets being sprayed in the house. all i could think was, that is not going to be a good finish! haha you all have taught us well!
    those cabinets are gorgeous so i would be very scared to have them sprayed in place and glazed to boot?! seems iffy:(

  • PRO
    Joseph Corlett, LLC
    9 years ago

    I'm sure there are explosion-proof lights overhead and proper ventilation on this job site.

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