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Colorful Mexican Kitchens Part XX!

Posted by solman (My Page) on
Sat, May 29, 10 at 14:32

DOS EQUIS XX! "stay thirsty my friends"

Well here we are on Planet XX!

Awfully bright here.

Well, you can't say that we don't have anything to say :)

Here is a link that might be useful: Link to Part XIX of this thread.


Follow-Up Postings:

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RE: Colorful Mexican Kitchens Part XX!

Ooops. Missy, I was still reminiscing about falls past. I haven't actually ridden since I was young. They started pushing horses out of the area. You have to drive at least an hour in any direction from where I live to find horse properties any more, and they've even pushed out the "new" equestrian center that was supposed to replace some of the stablage. Not that I've ever been an equestrian. My first encounter with an English saddle was enough!

Sol, they did discontinue the two in ones but have brought them back! Even Amazon has them.

Check eBay and bricks and mortar stores for the Sonoma Green.


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It's usually slow here on Saturdays, but Solly is really doing his homework for the big trip to Grove city. Monday is a holiday here so it will be crowded this weekend.

Flo, the Progressive insurance girl is great. They needed help to counter the Geico Gecko and they nailed it. It takes hours to do the hair and makeup.

The killer wedding shoes were a strappy disco style with wood heels and platforms. I might have been okay with Manolos or Jimmy Choo. The wedding was in Laramie, Wyoming and they had a live band. Still had a good time, but I'm a Texan and love to dance.

If they discontinued some of the Sonoma Green, that would explain the good prices at the outlet. Have they discontinued all of it? They still have quite a selection at the mall store. Most of the colors look good except the lime green at W-S. I like the Heritage flame and the Sonoma green is nice. It's hard to go wrong with all the colors and I would even get lime green and lemon yellow if they had closeout pricing and it was a piece I needed. The price difference is that W-S is a real outlet where they are trying to clear merchandise quickly while LeC is a factory store with discounts set by the company.

The LeC staff is very knowledgeable about the products and if you take a tile to match, they should be able to help. There's not much staff at the W-S outlet, but that also goes into the price difference.


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RE: Colorful Mexican Kitchens Part XX!

Plllog- I searched Amazon and your little skillet 2 in 1 is nowhere to be found.


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Oh, you're right. They did have. Try Sur La Table. They have them in all the new colors. Plus, as I said, the outlet does.

Steff, being sidelined is no fun! I once had to defend cowboy boots to some silly Eastern fashion tyrant columnist who didn't understand regional differences. I can't get away with wearing them to a black tie wedding, but I never met anyone who sprained an ankle in 'em. At least, excepting one who was dangling from a stirrup on a spooked horse.


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Halleluliah!!!

I found the Le Creuset site with cm!!

Now I can speak the language.

SIGH;;;;; you and your toes, and feet and fingers and whatevers.

Here is a link that might be useful: C'mon Over To My Side


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Breakthrough!

Halleluliah!!!

I found the Le Creuset site with cm!!

Now I can speak the language.

SIGH;;;;; you and your toes, and feet and fingers and whatevers.

Here is a link that might be useful: C'mon Over To My Side


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Well

Thanks Plllog. Good news-Le C. Outlet has them still.


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RE: Colorful Mexican Kitchens Part XX!

They had quite a few of the 2 in 1 at Round Rock earlier in the week. I think they were an additional 40% off and should have gotten it then. Didn't realize they were being discontinued and was in a hurry. Maybe those will still be on sale next week when I have a chance to get back there.

Yep, no boots at a real black tie wedding, but I've been to plenty of "Denim and Diamonds" or "Black Tie and Boots" events. Cowboy boots are classic and look especially cool where they are unexpected like on the street in New York. There are a lot of broomstick skirts and western style jewelry being featured in chain stores so the look must be in fashion this summer. It has to be a George Strait concert or something really special for me to wear boots in the summer around here.


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I'm proud of you.

Your list had me pegged for the 4.5 Quart French Oven/High Cass and that's exactly the Euro 20 cm one that's a "staple".

Looks like you don't want me in any of the biggies like the 7 1/4 quart?

Will the 3.5 Brasier be my "steamer" with Bamboo insert? BTW that Bamboo steamer has a lid. Do I still use the lid + Creuset lid? Actually bought but never used the Bamboo one yet. It's 24 cm.

Shopping List so far:

2 -in-1 2 "Qt" like your new fav Dark Green (since it's the cheapest)
4.5 Dutch Oven Red
3.5 Brazier ?? ---steam tool Cobalt Blue

Wok ?

With the top 3 and the Outlet volume rebates $240!!! for 3 pans. I love it! That's the price of one at full pop.


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Steff, I think they've been pretty sparse on the ground for years. For awhile, Sur La Table, at least, had three sizes with the black interiors. Then there were none anywhere. Then the medium and large appeared at the outlet, and at Sur La Table. Earlier this year they had them on the British LC site, but not here. I think it's one of those in and out kinds of things. But Sur La Table has them now in the new colors. If you want one (or more) you can have the outlet send them. I don't know if it's true, but someone said that the outlet sale has free shipping. Last chance!

Interesting about the Summer thing. I think most of my cowboy boots are for Summer wear. :) I've only ever been anywhere in Texas in the Fall so I don't know what your heat is like--I imagine it's much greater than ours. My father's idea of dressy is black cowboy boots and an artist made bolo, but I do think he'll wear dress shoes and a bow tie with his tux. :)

Speaking of boots, I once tried to explain to a Northerner about the kind of boots you walk in vs. the kind of boots you ride in and he looked so blank!!

Oh! Solman, if you want to know the centimeters, it's molded into the bottom. The quarts are on the lids.


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Game Plan

I'm proud of you.

Your list had me pegged for the 4.5 Quart French Oven/High Cass and that's exactly the Euro 20 cm one that's a "staple".

Looks like you don't want me in any of the biggies like the 7 1/4 quart?

Will the 3.5 Brasier be my "steamer" with Bamboo insert? BTW that Bamboo steamer has a lid. Do I still use the lid + Creuset lid? Actually bought but never used the Bamboo one yet. It's 24 cm.

Shopping List so far:

2 -in-1 2 "Qt" like your new fav Dark Green (since it's the cheapest)
4.5 Dutch Oven Red
3.5 Brazier ?? ---steam tool Cobalt Blue

Wok ?

With the top 3 and the Outlet "volume" rebates $240!!! for 3 pans. I love it! That's the price of one at full pop.


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Do you have the rack thingie for your bamboo steamer? the grid it sits on? Think about steaming. What does it do? How does it work? What will happen if you put a solid lid on it? Think physics. You can generate the steam in any pan you can balance the steamer in (with rack) or over.

You can have a 7.25 qt. It's just not a highly useful size for someone who doesn't entertain much. If you're going to make stock you'll want something bigger. But if you think you'll use it, get it.

You might not find the two in one in the dark green, since that's the Williams-Sonoma exclusive color and I don't think they had it. They had the braiser and dutch oven so if you can find one of those at the outlet, get that. The outlet here had the two in one in red (cerise) and flame (flamme). It should be pretty easy to find the dutch oven or braser in cobalt too.

Start at the W-S store, where there's probably less to choose from, and where you can probably make returns easily, and then go the the L-C when you know which on you were able to get in the green.

Some wok notes for you. The bottom is about 5" or less in diameter, and the top is a standard 14". I just boiled a pint of water in it, just for you. Even though the diameter is small, there's plenty of iron in the base because of the transition between flat and curved, but, of course, it doesn't get the double function of the larger ring. On boost it boiled water reasonably quickly, though maybe not as fast as the same amount of water in a wider based pan. The boil pattern was what one expects from a wok, that is, centered over the deepest part (i.e., center few inches). The interesting thing is that the upper sides of the wok didn't get more than slightly warm. I don't want to make the mess of trying it with oil, which is about double the temperature of water for wokking, but I think once the wok itself is hot, it'll be no trouble.

Remember, with enamel you want wood or silicone implements rather than metal which can scratch.


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Well done Professor Plllog! Thank you.

OK got some more great news. Steff I was just in the Le. C Outlet in Round Rock TX... on the phone that is :) But more importantly there is a very charismatic guy, real French Parisian, working there by the name of Christophe. He is obviously also a trained Chef but what a wealth of knowledge and experience. It's like having a Texan Plllog!

Plllog, he knew all my Euro cm and litre sizes inside out. He also explained to me that the "classic" German set that all of them sell in Germany are actually not good sizes. They are chosen only for "marketing" purposes which ultimately forces you to "fill in" with more pots. Makes sense. None of the German sets are with a saucepan! I think it is quite an essential to put it mildly.

This was his essentials line:

2 3/4 saucepan soup, oatmeal, milk, rice for one
3 1/2 quart Brazier Curries, pasta, Trouts
5 1/2 Quart French Oven Boil water, soups, steaming (he wasn't crazy about the 4.5 Quart)

10 inch skillet -brown/sear/eggs/omelette

Price for all above $410

He wasn't high on the 2 in 1 :( (but you've proved otherwise that it is a winner for 1-2) He calls it the "College Student or Camper's pan" LOL!!!

He also favored the 5 1/2 quart because it takes the Stainless Creuset Steamer insert. Pretty good reason I guess. Help Plllog!

I'm pretty excited about the Wok and my love of Oriental would almost make this an essential pot.

Yikes! $$$ Oh well, I guess quality has it's price.

Plllog-Dark Blues, get those Super Dark Blues rolling out. They're only collecting dust in the Whse. anyways.

Now your experiment is actually not that wild. I believe the real Chinese Bamboo steamer baskets are actually meant for Woks, for steaming! They must be since the Chinese only have a Wok for pots. (Not good for the cookware market in Asia).

BTW, rice for 1-2, ie. one cup, could your 2 in 1 2 qt. saucepan handle that?
It would have to. Can't do it in the 3 1/2 Brazier-4.5 Dutch. Maybe this guy's lineup of a 2 3/4 saucepan is too big for the small rice portions?


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Further to above,

In question:

French Oven 4.5 Quart or 51/2 Quart?
(2 in 1) 2 quart saucepan, or 2 1/4 Quart Saucepan


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hot hot news!!

Steff- It finally happened! A 30 inch induction cooktop in North America for under $1,000!!!

Yes. The wave has finally hit North America.

It's about time.

Here is a link that might be useful: Steff's New Induction Cooktop


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What a Sub Culture!

I liked this summary.

I recently purchased the 5 1/2-Qt. as a gift for my mom and she loves it. She has used it several times now and calls me everytime she uses it. I own 4 pieces and use them all the time. I love Le Creuset for a variety of reasons: it's easy to clean, my food taste so much better, I can use the same pot in the oven, stove top and on the table, I love the presentation of colors and they inspire me to cook even more. I tell all my friends about the Le Creuset product and how it's really worth the investment. Now, I don't need to replace my pots every year.

It's the Best
Great heating and controlled cooking qualities! I am developing a collection of Le Creuset and I am finding these products might be more important than having high-end appliances.


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I Can't Believe All The Nice Stories!

Beautiful way of cooking

I just love my new Braiser, I only had for about a month and I use everyother day I made 2 Basa fish in butter & olive oil and Provence herbs and it came out beautiful and I felt like one of those TV cooks from the foodnetwork.and easy clean up and good for a family of 3 to 6.I love the flame color it is a beautiful pot and it make me feel wonderful when using it. I have other Le creuset in other colors but this one is my favorite. If you are thinking about it I suggest you get one. Enjoy & Happy cooking to all

The color makes me happy

This is a second additon to my Azure collection. I made Mexican rice and was pleased with the results. The reason I gave it 4 stars is because of the price ot the product. However, I do love the Le Creuset collection.

Extremely durable! Love this cookware!

In 1978 I made 3 major kitchen purchases, after losing everything to a house fire. One of them was a set of Le Creuset flame colored ( no pun intended) cookware. (The others were a Quisinart food processor and a KitchenAid mixer). I have ABSOLUTELY LOVED cooking and baking with my Le Creuset pots and pans over these 32 years and am delighted that most of the original set is still in use today!!! A few new pieces have been added over the years and the original pots do have a few chips by now which neither affect their performance, nor my satisfaction with them. If you want a high quality product, one you will be absolutely delighted to use for many years, invest in Le Creuset cookware. (By the way, the Quisinart food processor, as well as the KitchenAid mixer are still a mainstay in my kitchen too! Also wonderful investments!)


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Okay, now, remember that Christophe is also trying to sell you more pots. And I agree with him on the two in one... until now! It's a dumb looking pot but I love the skillet part. It's kind of perfect. And they don't have anything else like it. You have to remember that this is a dutch oven company who are trying to make other pots for other uses. For making a sauce the perfect pour sauce pot or 1 qt. saucier is far superior. There is no like for the two's saucepan other than the skillet. But the skillet is dreamy! And, being that I don't have a bunch of dutch ovens, the saucepan suffices for making stuff that doesn't need to be covered. Both my pumpkin and my soup pot have smaller bases and aren't as good on the induction. I suggested it to you because of the skillet and the savings by having the pot thrown in.

Yes, of course, your bamboo steamer goes in a wok! On the crosshatch rack. That's why I did my boiling experiment. But you can use it with any kind of pot. You just have to elevate it above the water. That's what the rack thingie is for.


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Williams-Sonoma Dark Green Update

I had talked to one of the NYC Outlet stores earlier and I believe she had it.

Must confirm since we were talking both about 2 in1 and Green but she may not have made the connection.

I just can't imagine putting that "Kiwi-Lime" in this Mexican Kitchen. I'd also rather not double up on colors.

Plllog-I think your 2 in 1 2 quart is better for small rice portions than the 2 3/4 Qt. Saucepan that the French guy likes. He suggested putting a wine cork in the pour spout to retain steam for rice cooking :(

Do you do good rice in your little 2 Quart?


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Plllog- we must be connected by the 2 in 1, or the French umbilical chord.

Yes Christophe is French and brilliant but we're the new American generation in France. And even after listening to his absolute humiliation of that adorable 2 in 1 cutie, I say College students and campers we will be.

He wanted that beastly Black 10 inch skillet thing for the omelettes and fried eggs but that's big and a Mutha to handle. And no CURVED sides. How can you call it a French skillet without curved sides!


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Curves.

Speaking of curves Plllog, can you fry an egg in that little skillet and roll it over the rim to slide into a plate?

Say yes, please.


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Le Creuset Is Dirt Cheap

After...

Here is a link that might be useful: You See This!


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Detective Solly On The Case

Based on my investigation, IKEA skillets are made by Le Creuset.

Exactly same shape, size, mould, and both Made In France.

And it has rounded edges so it is a REAL French skillet!

Here is a link that might be useful: IKEA-Le Creuset


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The Under Dog!

Not bad for $40.

Here is a link that might be useful: IKEA


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The Le Creuset Mega Outlet Bargain?

Maybe not.

The lowest Outlet price in America with the biggest discounts is just normal everyday price, actually more, in UK.

$140 with exchange rate AND a FREE Steamer :( ($75 in America)

Here is a link that might be useful: Plllog's 5 1/2 Quart Dutch Oven


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Rice is danged easy. Rice for 2 in a 2 quart. Can you make rice for one? Yes, do be sure that they have the DARK green, not kiwi, apple or lemongrass. I've made rice in the little pot with the pour spout. Didn't need no stinkin' cork!

The frying pan is a frying pan!! It's for fried chicken. Or even risotto. Not eggs, and certainly not an omelette. Especially since egg and that texture do not seem a good match.

BTW, made a pancake yesterday with leftover vegetable couscous and eggs. I turned up the little saucier too high and good and stuck (not quite burnt) the bottom. It was delish. After dinner I poured in some water, heated it gently forawhile, then pushed at the residue with a silicone stirrer. It all lifted right up. A quick wash with an agave fiber scrubbie and it was all better. THIS is why we love our smooth enamel.

If you're a good egg frier, yes, you can slide it out, but it's not like on (NASTY) nonstick where it's all slithery. I prefer to use a spatula. When you go to the outlet ask them to fry you an egg so you can see!

What's with the copper. Can't copper on induction. Oh. The price. Absurd. Go to the restaurant supply and get cheap stainless.

Not the same pan at IKEA. Many differences. Don't be fooled. Not exactly same size and shape. Similar isn't exact. It's possible that LC makes it for IKEA. But that doesn't make it necessarily up to their name standards either.


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Please!

Here is a link that might be useful: The Power of...


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NOT a Budgies Best Friend.

LOL!!! on the Nasty Non Stick.

Isn't it eeery how an egg fried on it is shiny and rubbery, unless you use fat.

The finished egg resembles a vinyl stage prop and you the bonus hidden "Dupont garnish".


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The French Oven Debate

Plllog help!

Which French Oven do we get? The 4.5 Quart or your 5.5 Quart?

Must be a reason why you and Christophe were singing the same tune.


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Why do you want that metal steamer when you have a bamboo one? They work the same way. I guess the stainless is easier to clean. Steamed rice is nice too.

But I don't think it matters which size you get between the two. Get whichever one you like better.


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Solly, weren't you trying to avoid stainless? Try the bamboo since you already have it. You will certainly be one of their best informed customers when you get there. I prefer a tight lid on the rice pan, but you can adjust the water/rice ratio to compensate.

See, I told you we have actual French cooking down here. Christophe must have been the guy watching over Jerrett who was assisting me. They both seemed knowledgeable and well prepared for the induction inundation. Maybe they subtly steered me away from the 2 in 1. Austin is a big college town so the pan should be perfect for his market.

Love that induction cooktop, it doesn't have the stainless trim that. I'll have to check it out and see how the heat settings work. I've been watching Avec Eric which is a PBS series with the chef at Le Bernardin in NYC. He uses induction to cook for the show at his apartment and he has to punch the numbers several times to get the one he wants. I like that he has induction when almost everyone else has gas units. My gas cooktop has become a storage space since I got the induction. DH wonders if we should build in a cooktop at all and that's an interesting consideration.

Years ago, I purchased some professional style cookware and the little sauce pan is the worst pan for sauce because of the sharp angle at the bottom. It doesn't work with induction so I am happy to replace it now. This week I picked up a little stainless pan with glass lid at Home Goods for $12.99. It has bulbous sides and looks perfect for stirring.

Are you planning to post from Grove City for advice?


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The French Oven Debate

Plllog help!

Which French Oven do we get? The 4.5 Quart or your 5.5 Quart?

Must be a reason why you and Christophe were singing the same tune.


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Grrrrrrr::: I just lost a posting and somehow sent an older one again.


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Re-constructed Lost Post

Steff-I've considered abandoning the Le. C. project for now. She's right, I won't mention names (a little too often), you need to have the Green piece sorted out first so you know which other colors you can round out the collection with.

So far the Sonoma Green is nowhere to be found in all the W&S Outlets in America except...Vegas!

Yes just talked to a a very nice Mexican girl there and she has:

2 1/2 Quart Saucier
14 inch Oval Baker = $160 in Sonoma Green


But, a certain someone, has me sold on the 2 in 1 as my everyday saucepan and free skillet, so I'm not sure where this piece would fit in. Seems to duplicate the 2 in 1. Mind you the saucier is a cutie as far as curves.

Now something cute. She asked me what my Kitchen looked like and when I told her Yellow Talavera, she let out a little screech of joy! Interestingly her Le. C collection was entirely of different colors; so yes, that's true Mexican. She also was all thumbs down on the Lime-Kiwi-Apple or whatever they call they new Greens.

My goal:

2 in 1
5 1/2 Quart?? Franch Oven
3 1/2 Quart Brazier
WOK again---since Plllog ran off with mine!

SIGH:::: Why does William have to be so difficult?


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My few minutes at the LeC outlet convinced me to wait also. I think you can find those prices with research online and they have the same sale in the fall. I was sure I saw a few pieces of Sonoma Green at the W-S outlet in San Marcos, TX last week. Most of the pieces were that strange yellow/green so maybe if I wait and decide I could live with that color there could be a bargain opportunity. It cooks the same, just the color is odd. It is typical of a Mexican kitchen, or any kitchen where lots of good food is produced daily, that the cookware does not match. Each item acquired and added over time like the kitchen itself.

The size of French Oven you need should depend on what you plan to cook in it. You want to have plenty of room and the larger one is more impressive if you have dinner guests. If you are just cooking for one or two most of the time it could end up being too large.

That wok is a great looking piece and I'll probably put that on my list.


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Yeah Steff-Being a big purchase you want to get it right. I also had reservation about having these boxes piled up in the living room, along with the tile boxes that are also there. Also, there's only a 45 day return policy so if your needs change by the time you do your first cooking, it's tough.

I also need to look at the 4.5 vs 5.5 Qt. in person. But funny the Mexican girl said she like making Caldo with Verduras and also opted for the 5.5. She also cooks for one. But you never know of she has armies coming over on weekends etc.

Since it looks like I'm in the 8 piece category, they always have a serious 30% stacked discount for 7 or more pieces.

Perhaps we will both have some good luck and the Dark Green pieces will show up, in the style we want, by accident one day.

Which reminds me Plllog, before you got your Red 5.5 Quart last week, what pots were you using? Were you living in that little Red saucier and your tall 8 quart stockpot?

LOL!!! I've got the Le. C collection memorized now.

Wait until you see the France site!

profiter de dames

Here is a link that might be useful: Le Creuset France


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Ohhh Plllog.

Sigh;;;;; Don't tell me you forgot the Rose!

I picked that from the Garden this morning.

Here is a link that might be useful: For Your Hairpin


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This is Lodge. Cute. $45 3 Qt.

And Staub.

Everyone has the nice Mexican Green except Le. C ;;;;; SNIFF SNIFF

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Round+2.5+qt.+Cocotte+in+Basil

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The actual iron casting of Le Creuset is superior, however.

You do not seem to have the collection memorized. I've had my five quart oval and 5 quart braser for years. It's the 15 quart goose pot that's new. Staub and Lodge area okay if you can't swing the LC, but better to get the good stuff if you can. But if you can't, an odd piece out just makes your kitchen real, as Steff said.

Have you tried calling a Williams-Sonoma store and having them chase down one of the ones you want?

The wedding was nice, the service was beautiful, the band was excellent but so loud all us fogies left. My hair looked good, and my hairdresser used some kind of miracle spray that goes on like air, smells like air, and holds like cement. I don't know what it is, but it's pretty darned wonderful.

Plenty of inappropriate clothes, but not a cowboy boot in sight. Pity.


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Steff- I haven't seen Plllog this morning. But I think she's pretty hungover. She's was really boozing it up at the reception yesterday. I think it was the Fruit Punch. I told her it wasn't Kool Aid, but she kept saying "no no just hydrating".


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What in the world time does Silly think I get up? No "booze" at the wedding. Chardonnay or Cab. Half a glass. Drunkenness is not amusing. Though I might have a hairspray hangover...


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Plllog- Congrats on the nice day. Sounds like you had fun. Could you expand on the "plenty of inappropriate clothes"?

Yes I am confused about your Red 5 quart. I thought you got that with the Duck and WOK at the Sale. And you photo looked like a round 5 quart not oval.

Opinion needed. Would you agree that the 2 1/4 Saucier is a duplicate of the 2 in 1 ? I want the round for the French oven, not oval right?

Do you like Dune. Steff I think you might like it?

What's your feeling on the WOK color Black? They have Red-Black-Blue.

I'm off to Grove City PA- Le. Cr. within moments!


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Contest

What will Solly get in the Le Cr. store today?

Sizes-colors?

Winner gets something really "interesting".


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LOL, hairspray hangover. Loud bands are a pain.

Dressing inappropriately and doing it well is an art. Cowboy boots don't count if you actually live in cowboy country. One of my favorite blogs is Sartorialist. Fun to check out on occasion.


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No, oval 5 qt. INSIDE duckpot in picture. Round 5 qt. braiser ("low casserole") next to duckpot.

No, the 2.25 saucier is nothing like the Two In One. It's a very nice pot. The bottom is curved on the edges, which is a very good cooking shape, but not necessarily quite as good on induction where amount of contact with the glass has an effect. It has a tight lid. No skillet. You could substitute the saucier and a little skillet, but I don't like the shapes they have except for the lid of the Two In One. You could get a Demeyere skillet.

Yes, you want a round dutch oven, I think. Oval is more for roasts (chicken, potroast, etc.), or lasagna noodles. Round is better for induction and for stews, beans, soups, etc.

Dune is pretty. But it's too beige to compete with saturated color like you have. Being beige. Dune is beige. Very colorful in a dove colored kitchen. Lost in your Talaveras. If that's the only color they have for a piece you need, it's okay, but it's not a treasure to add to your decor.

Any of the wok colors will be fine. Choose your favorite.

Have fun!!!!


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Reaching For The Keys...

So, the 2 1/4 saucier is a good pot? Better than the saucepan of the 2 in 1 ?
The Vegas store has it in Green on hold.

Note: the bottom has changed since yours. Now it is quite flat.


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Not a Misprint

3.5 hours drive!!!

Yikes.


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Inappropriate dress as in not conforming to "black tie optional". First clue--the bridesmaids were wearing kneelength!!! Lots of women were wearing cocktail dresses, even some of the over-50 crowd. Dinner dresses, at the least, if not evening gowns, were called for. One young woman wore a dress that would be inappropriate anywhere. It looked like a sports bra with a silk tablecloth attached at the top in front, and handing loose around the derriere. Some of the men were wearing summer suits, rather than dark suits. A few of the young women looked like they were wearing recycled prom dresses or better bridesmaid's dresses, proving that you can wear them again! (Those were appropriate if they were dinner length.) And at least those weren't black! Women shouldn't wear black (or white) to weddings. It's just as well the gown I was going to wear never arrived. It's sapphire, and the bride's mother wore sapphire.

The mothers and grandmothers looked lovely, as did most of the company. The bride wore candlelight, which is very flattering to her coloring; a very beautiful and flattering gown, with a half-train that bustled on the underside. It was amusing watching her bridesmaids trying to reassemble her right in middle of everything.. The men in the wedding party wore traditional tuxes and looked very elegant. What's really important is that the bride and groom looked really happy.


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Well, with a perfectly flat bottom, why is it any different from ... Oh never mind! If you want a Sonoma green pot, go for it! Maybe you wanted the bigger Two In One anyway, for a bigger skillet. Oh, wait! You have the braiser. You can use that for skillety things. Okay, I think you have your list!

Get driving already! Go conquer!


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So? Big journey, no report?


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Controlled Leaks-Apple Style!

Psssst...

Grove City, PA.

Report coming...


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"Apple style" Does that mean you left one of your purchases in a bar?


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Sorry Polly, swamped!

Will be reporting to LA Headquarters shortly.

BTW. Thanks for the nice analysis of the reception. If only many more were as receptive/sensitive to detail as you.

And I'm still mad at you for not wearing my Wild Rose!


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LOL!! Steff

Not quite like Apple but a very interesting, dare I say exciting, story?

Holy Le Cr. day!!! I think you and Polly will be very proud of me-I hope!

Trying to get to our fun story but just swamped today in the Biz (the new big customer) which is a good thing :)

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Late Breaking News!

From the Le. Creuset Northern Headquarters

Renowned Le Creuset collector, Monsieur Solly of Dordogne received this internet message just moments ago.

Hi,

I bought this 3.5 Quart French Oven in Sonoma Green personally from William Sonoma here in Portland, Oregon, first quality, no damage, no marks, or scratches, never been used. I will forward you an invoice shortly.

The deal is now, as they say, done like Dinner!

TGBT and lucky or what.

Yayyy!

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So far we know Solly got a good deal on the elusive Sonoma Green. That's a good size for smaller meals. We await additional details.

It's always good when the bride and groom are happy and relaxed. There's usually one young lady who could have chosen a more appropriate outfit.


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On The Road

So the trip starts with me ever so relaxed at 4:30 PM until I discover from Mapquest that it's a 3 hr 15 minute drive from me. Mini distress called sent on 15:43 post.

Then I saunter over to the Border and the Customs guy says, in absolute disbelief, you're going to Pennsylvania now, at 6'oclock, to buy pots?

Then it's off on the I90 toward Pittsburg. While driving I wondered if I would even make it. But seems that with them closing at 9:30 should be doable.

The drive started out nice, typical hot summer day 26C, and unlike drives to TO with 4 busy lanes in both directions and countless factories/businesses all the way, this was quite relaxing. Cute hills, the odd river bridge, and literally forests and farms and almost no cars. It was almost lonely. Then the unthinkable happens. At the 1/2 way mark, pouring rain begins. Gulp.

Not giving up on the mission I continue and eventually arrive to Grove City about 8:45 PM and think this is it? It is literally just a little town and how on earth did they choose this for a major Outlet Mall. Somehow the Mapquest is wrong, I get lost a little and eventually ask someone in town for directions. Finally I arrive to an eery, empty wet parking lot. The unthinkable, this place closes at 9 not 9:30. Yikes!

So, I quickly find the Le.C store in hopes to make it and see no one but one girl working there. I'm "greeted" upon arrival and the show begins. I told her that I knew which ones I was aiming for but colors would need some touchy feely.

We laid it all out on the tables and began choosing.

The Braiser was an easy no brainer 3.5 Quart Cobalt. Then came the 4.5- 5.5 Quart Casserole in Red- STUNNING!!!! (no wonder it's their #1 selling color. I opted for the 4.5 Quart despite Christophe (Round Rock) absolutely recommending the 5.5 Quart. Then it was onto Plllog's cutie the 2 in 1. I INSTANTLY loved this thing. The skillet is a prize too. I took Red, reluctantly, as in not liking to double up colors.

All the while I kept peeking at the Dijon that was on the shelf and asked the girl if we could see the 2 1/4 Quart saucier. I pulled out my Yellow tile as recommended ;) and lo and behold it was a dead match to the Talavera. I couldn't believe it. I also couldn't believe how nice White looked. White and Dijon together were hot.

Back to my table, we discussed my Vegas Sonoma Green Saucier and the 2 in 1 and yes this was a duplicate hockey card. The Kiwi Lime was uhumm.

Next, she talked me into a Stockpot and for that I chose Dijon and made this my fun piece. Inexpensive and novel in that people would think oh look the pot matches the Kitchen.

So after all the choosing, I pondered the WOK and without much real thought and feeling spent thought Black! My reasoning was that Oriental and Black go hand in hand (second thoughts- more on that later).

The color missing from all this was Orange "Flamme".

I was so thankful for this girl staying past time and actually we had the whole store to ourselves. No interruptions etc. Great.

Upon leaving, it was still pouring rain and dark but I got a chance to see the Mall which looks like it would be really beautiful by day. Little wood bridges going over natural meadows which they preserved during construction. I'd have to say the outdoor Mall was perhaps the nicest shopping place I've ever been to. Love to see it in the day. Sunny summer day.

The drive back was well...long and late.

As for Le Creuset. All I can say is that it is SO beautiful and just oozes quality. The Flying Saucer WOK is really a piece of design work. No doubt it was a Red Dot Winner.

The fact that I felt I bought the entire store, blame it on you Plllog ever since you started designing my kitchen.

Actually, I was due to spend at lest this amount on German Fissler 18/10 Steel pots so no regrets at all.

Did I say no regrets? There could be some changes to follow. Which means going back to Pennsylvania and maybe spending a weekend. Lots of Lakes near this Mall.

Having Second Thoughts On:

The double up Red 2 in 1 maybe should have been Flamme? I thought Orange Flamme wouldn't go with this Talavera Yellow but seems OK? Help!

The Black WOK, I don't know. After laying out on the tile seems harsh maybe with the Yellow?? Plllog's Cobalt or Red better choices??

Good news as posted above. I somehow fluked a Sonoma Green new 3.5 Quart Casserole today for $100. That instantly eliminates the 2 1/2 saucier in Vegas that I really didn't want other than for color. Thanks Plllog, you were SO right about not wasting $ on the Lodge. With my 35% discount that Brazier was only $100, $50 more than the Lodge and no comparison.

Change the Red 4.5 Quart Casserole to 5.5 Quart Red because of today's new acquisition of the 3.5 Quart Sonoma Green??

Reasoning being that the 3.5 Quart is so close to the 4.5 Quart that maybe you go noticeably bigger for the time that you need to cook for more people or pasta?

The last shot is my Vietnamese Bamboo Noodle Soup bowl in Orange to show how it could look with this Mexican Talavera color scheme.

HELP! we need to solve the color/size woes :(

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This is the Green 3.5 Qt. that I miraculously found today.

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Here is a link that might be useful: On the Road


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In case the above wasn't clear.

Last night I didn't know of the new Green 3.5 Qt. Now that I have bought it, it becomes very similar in size to the 4.5 Quart. Therefore, should one be changing the Red 4.5 Quart to the 5.5 Qt. Red to have an appreciable difference in size when the 3.5 won't cut it? That was the issue/question.

The 8 Qt stockpot os really for the corn on the cobs/big cooking which I have never done!


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Great job! Good that you pulled it off. Those look great with the tile, especially the stockpot. I love the black wok, very masculine and a good thing to mix colors up a bit.

Even though the outlet mall is right on the interstate it is hidden slightly by a hill, so if you miss the sign I could see how you might get lost.

It is a beautiful area that I always love visiting. My husband grew up on a farm just south of Grove City and my MIL still lives there. The wooden bridges at the mall mimic the real wooden bridge that has been preserved at nearby McConnells Mill.

On the 4.5 quart, you really should go up another size so that you have enough difference since you don't have the available storage space for every size.


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Oh, Solly, look how shiny that black wok is! It's lovely!!! Is the blue one Azure? Or is it the light? Is the stock pot the 16 qt.?

I don't think you need the bigger dutch oven. If you need a bigger pot you have the stock pot! You need the green dutch oven. That's essential. And you see what I mean now about the little skillet in the Two In One. Isn't it fab?

I really think you have everything you need to start with. You should be able to cook anything you can think of in those.

It's okay to have two reds! So far you only have colors from the tiles. You can get something Flamme when you decide there's something else you need. The color has been around for something like 50 years, and I doubt it's going anywhere. Maybe you'll want the tagine! It's cast iron on the bottom and stoneware on top. I don't know if that's actually better than all ceramic, but it's unique. (No, I don't have one.)

Congratulations on your victory, and on engineering a private consultation at the store.

P.S., If you'd paid attention to what I was wearing and when I was leaving, you would have given me the right color flower at the right time. I do very much appreciate the pretty picture, but you oughtn't to be twitting me for it when you sent it after I left!


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Thanks Steff!

Yeah I was really amazed how beautiful it all was. That Mall was like in a little nature retreat. Very very tastefully done. And all the country side to and from amazed me.

Such a shame that I only tasted it briefly and drove back in pitch darkness. When I was lost in the actual town Grove City, it was so quaint compared to where I come from.

I really wished I had made a sightseeing journey out of it as opposed to an all out commando operation like I was on. But how was I to know right? My only reference point was the Prime Outlets in Niagara Falls NY, which is just a giant cement parking lot beside an ugly building with toxic chemical and waste plants in the background and lovely smell to prove it (literally waste disposal/burning plants). You know the whole "Buffalo is the armpit of America" thing and it's true!

So you also think the 4.5 Quart is redundant now and should switch to the 5.5Qt for when you, Missy and Plllog come over all at the same time? Our Dolphin needs a little more Winter freshness for a change anyways.

The Stockpot still blows me away. My Yellow Talavera is so unique that I almost fell to the ground when the Creuset Dijon matched it. I wonder if my Lupi in Mexico should call France and get the formula so I can get my poor tiles soon :(

The Orange Flamme 2 in 1? You think it would look OK with the Talavera?

Then every single pot is unique color. LOVE that Green compared to... Kiwi.

BTW the Outlet has 9 inch Black skillets on their own, size up from our 2 in 1 cutie. I was tempted but we've got the 3 1/2 Quart Brazier. What a beautiful pot for the unlucky breaded Trout that lands in there some day :)

I can't wait to make an omelette, like a camper :)

BTW Steff-Christophe is also a professional Caterer in case you ever need one.

Disclaimer: Solly-SOL-solman-solsista and any of it's subsiduaries does not endorse of have any legal connection to the above.


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Thanks Steff!

Yeah I was really amazed how beautiful it all was. That Mall was like in a little nature retreat. Very very tastefully done. And all the country side to and from amazed me.

Such a shame that I only tasted it briefly and drove back in pitch darkness. When I was lost in the actual town Grove City, it was so quaint compared to where I come from.

I really wished I had made a sightseeing journey out of it as opposed to an all out commando operation like I was on. But how was I to know right? My only reference point was the Prime Outlets in Niagara Falls NY, which is just a giant cement parking lot beside an ugly building with toxic chemical and waste plants in the background and lovely smell to prove it (literally waste disposal/burning plants). You know the whole "Buffalo is the armpit of America" thing and it's true!

So you also think the 4.5 Quart is redundant now and should switch to the 5.5Qt for when you, Missy and Plllog come over all at the same time? Our Dolphin needs a little more Winter freshness for a change anyways.

The Stockpot still blows me away. My Yellow Talavera is so unique that I almost fell to the ground when the Creuset Dijon matched it. I wonder if my Lupi in Mexico should call France and get the formula so I can get my poor tiles soon :(

The Orange Flamme 2 in 1? You think it would look OK with the Talavera?

Then every single pot is unique color. LOVE that Green compared to... Kiwi.

BTW the Outlet has 9 inch Black skillets on their own, size up from our 2 in 1 cutie. I was tempted but we've got the 3 1/2 Quart Brazier. What a beautiful pot for the unlucky breaded Trout that lands in there some day :)

I can't wait to make an omelette, like a camper :)

BTW Steff-Christophe is also a professional Caterer in case you ever need one.

Disclaimer: Solly-SOL-solman-solsista and any of it's subsiduaries does not endorse of have any legal connection to the above.


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Thanks Steff!

Yeah I was really amazed how beautiful it all was. That Mall was like in a little nature retreat. Very very tastefully done. And all the country side to and from amazed me.

Such a shame that I only tasted it briefly and drove back in pitch darkness. When I was lost in the actual town Grove City, it was so quaint compared to where I come from.

I really wished I had made a sightseeing journey out of it as opposed to an all out commando operation like I was on. But how was I to know right? My only reference point was the Prime Outlets in Niagara Falls NY, which is just a giant cement parking lot beside an ugly building with toxic chemical and waste plants in the background and lovely smell to prove it (literally waste disposal/burning plants). You know the whole "Buffalo is the armpit of America" thing and it's true!

So you also think the 4.5 Quart is redundant now and should switch to the 5.5Qt for when you, Missy and Plllog come over all at the same time? Our Dolphin needs a little more Winter freshness for a change anyways.

The Stockpot still blows me away. My Yellow Talavera is so unique that I almost fell to the ground when the Creuset Dijon matched it. I wonder if my Lupi in Mexico should call France and get the formula so I can get my poor tiles soon :(

The Orange Flamme 2 in 1? You think it would look OK with the Talavera?

Then every single pot is unique color. LOVE that Green compared to... Kiwi.

BTW the Outlet has 9 inch Black skillets on their own, size up from our 2 in 1 cutie. I was tempted but we've got the 3 1/2 Quart Brazier. What a beautiful pot for the unlucky breaded Trout that lands in there some day :)

I can't wait to make an omelette, like a camper :)

BTW Steff-Christophe is also a professional Caterer in case you ever need one.

Disclaimer: Solly-SOL-solman-solsista and any of it's subsiduaries does not endorse of have any legal connection to the above.


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Plllog the Azure is a Sonoma Exclusive. This was supposedly Cobalt. And the thought crossed me many times while in the store. I wanted and expected Cobalt to be much darker. Strange.

The Yellow stockpot is 8 quart. No great deal $40 with my discount BUT it's $40 everywhere regular price.

Are you serious and actually like the Black WOK! More than say Cobalt Blue? I got worried about it not fitting in. I bought it thinking in context of Oriental but not in context of a Mexican Kitchen. My Japanese Matcha bowl is Black. As are my square sushi plates. Yes it is Gloss Black, officially called "Black Onyx."

Head scratch on the 4.5 vs 5.5.

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Well, I saw a Sonoma Green dutch oven at the outlet here. Whatever color it is, it's pretty. You would have seen if they had other cobalts that were a different color, so I think the sunlight and reflections are doing a number on it.

Some of the items weren't on sale. I thought it looked smaller than mine! I do like your black wok in your kitchen. And for your purposes. I think it fits fine! Why should your wok be conformist? I was going to say I thought it looked like the black onyx, but then I thought, no, they don't make the wok in that. Little did I know! Why would you give up a find like that?

Keep the 4.5. Try cooking before you change your mind again. And drive all that way! Save your gas! I use my 2-2.5 qt. pots the most. I have three! What do you need 5.5 qt. for? If you're doing corn on the cob, big pasta, etc., in the little stockpot, what's the bigger dutch oven for. You don't make roasts, right? You can make beans, or whatever, in the little stockpot.

Remember, I often cook for mobs. You mostly cook for yourself, and want to cook for more discrete parties. Really, you have plenty to be starting with. I think, given that you have a perfectly good 8 qt. steel pot, having the two slightly smaller dutch ovens is useful. If you're cooking up stuff to freeze, or having company, that gives you two decent sized pots. Plus the other two for smaller bits, and the stock pot and wok for larger doings (e.g., steaming).

When you have something you don't have the right pot for is the time to be thinking of adding more.

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So, if I make pasta for 2, can I use the 4.5 quart French Oven? Chilli for 4? I like making that.

I got the stockpot for many corns or who knows? Never had a pot of that size. I've never made a soup or stock in my life.


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Pasta for two? Okay, I'm a cretin, I guess. We have serious ideas about wasting water. You can boil pasta in way too much water like they tell you to, or you can stir occasionally, and just have enough water so it's moving freely and not stuck together. I use a 2 qt. to boil pasta for two. If it's spaghetti or other long stuff, just hold one end and put the other in the boiling water. It'll soften really quickly and you can ease the pasta down slowing, bending it to fit in the pot, without breaking it.

Chili for four? Can a person make that little chili? Yes, you can make chili for 10 in a 4.5 qt., and if that's not enough you have the 8 qt.

You need to make stock. Freeze it. Make stock ice cubes, then put them in a freezer bag. When you're sauteeing toss in a stock cube instead of extra oil.

You can make vegetable stock. Use lots of rich roots: carrots, onions, parsnips, rutabegas, turnips, celery root. Also salty things like celery stalks. You can use peelings too. If you want some additional protein you can add lentils or beans, or even edamame. Those will also thicken and cloud the stock a bit, but it'll have a richer texture as well as being nutritious. You can add any old thing that needs using up, though go easy on the ones that are too particular in their flavors--that is, that don't combine well. Things like broccoli, tomatoes, and leeks are too noticable to use in large quantity, but if something is going soggy, throw it in! And you can throw in fruit things like peppers, squash or even apples, again, in quantities not to dominate.

Use stock instead of water at the base of soups, chili, boiling up rice, all kinds of things! Stock is the basis of good cookery, even more so if it's vegetarian cookery. It's the deblandifier and yummifier.

Just cut the icky ends off, brush in water to loosen dirt, and toss in. You can cut into large chunks if things are huge. Add enough water to cover and boil hard, then reduce to just under a boil for a few hours, stirring once in a while to make sure nothing burns to the bottom. When everything is cooked to death, squishy or falling apart, you're done. Use a sieve to separate the stock from the solids and throw the solids away (there's no goodness left in them--it's just texture left behind). Divide up into containers and ice trays. Freeze.

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Solly, you must have forgotten my post back when you first mentioned Grove City and I told you it's a beautiful place. Give yourself some time when you plan to return and check out one of the lovely Amish villages nearby. Good food and lots of interesting shops. This is where the real Amish live away from the overly developed and commercialized tourist areas around Lancaster. Enjoy a walk at McConnells Mill or Moraine State Park.

Homemade stock is easy and can be the difference between just good and really great tasting meals. All that veggie goodness adds to the nutrition value as well.

I use my plain cast iron skillets more than the enamel because they are easier to clean on the outside. The one I use most belonged to my grandmother and then my mother. It has no name, just a number stamp, but I'm sure it will last as long as I need it to. I'll get the enamel one out and try it on the induction as it should stay cleaner than on the gas cooktop.


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Oh Yeah, now I remember Steff. Silly me, I could've made a real outing of it. I completely forgot.

Funny Plllog's comment on the Cobalt was a little eery because I felt exactly the same way in the store. I was really forcing myself to like it but it wasn't happening. It seemed too light and not Cobalt.

After examining the picture of Plllog's/my Blue WOK to the new Brazier, they don't seem the same. You think my Outlet had a batch of light colored Blues?

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Sol, it's very hard to tell from pictures. IRL, the wok looks a little lighter. I can't say definitively that it's different. Bu the braiser does look like it might be Azure. Does it look purply like an intense sky? It is possible that they had a whole bunch of the Azure. Though it might be that instead of it being a little drip or something that made it a second, there was a whole batch of the cobalt that came out a little off color or something.

If you really don't like it, it might be worth exchanging, but what a sad thing that would be for a basically lovely pot!


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The lighting is so different in both pictures it is hard to tell. I did pull up some Amazon photos to compare and it sure does look like your brazier is closer to azure than cobalt. The cobalt should look very purple close to the base. The brazier looks nice anyway, does it work in your kitchen? That's quite a long trip just to exchange it, so only recommend it if you plan to go anyway.

I'm pretty lucky there are three LeC outlets two hours or less away and W-S happens to be near the closest one just under an hour so I can get in lots of shopping at once. Austin/Round Rock where the French chef Christophe works is probably the most difficult to get to.


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You're right Steff. It just doesn't look like Cobalt at all. I don't really like it. The edge counter tile Blue and the Blue in the Mural Border are so much darker and really look Cobalt. This is like a French Provincial type Blue/Azure.

Hmmm... Beautiful Pittsburgh PA, home of the Steelers!

I'll try to find a Le Creuset dealer locally and compare the Blue. I can't do it at Williams-Sonoma since they're all about Azure mania.


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You might have to find a full line cookware store or try Macy's in Buffalo. I searched but didn't find any bricks and mortar stores with in in TO. The Bay apparently had it in '07 but a search of their current website came up blank.

Pittsburgh is about an hour south of Grove City. There are some pretty parts, Three Rivers area obviously, that you might enjoy seeing. Then you could go a couple more hours south to Falling Water and Kentuck Knob. Might as well make a week out of it and stay at Nemacolin.


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See!! Solly buys a pot and gets a whole vacation plan!


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Thanks Steff for checking for the dealers. LOL!!! At the same time that you posted, I was literally on the phone with The Bay Cookware Dep't asking if they carried Le. C

I got another idea. I just discovered Le Creuset Canada main office is 20 minutes from my house! I can go and check their showroom and get to the bottom of this Cobalt Mystery.

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http://www.nemacolin.com/

Link opened fine for me--it was probably a 'net thing-- but there's the URL for you.

Just now you've found this Le C. place??? Do go look. :)


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An iPad is sold every 3 seconds!

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Thanks Plllog.

OK opens now.

Steff-looks like you want me traveling in style. Nice place!

I went to Lodge accomodations and sure enough I start looking at the bulkhead above the bed with crown moulding. Yuck! After you and Plllog convinced me to rip it off, it's now so obviously a bad choice.Well done Designistas!

Plllog-you're wondering why I've never seen the Le. C? While I don't live in the same city as the office, it's still strange that I never noticed it since the street it's on is well, the second most known in St. Catharines. I am oh so curious where it could possibly be on that street. Or maybe a recent move by the company. Why on earth I don't know when their market is obviously TO.

I'll even take my Brasier with me for actual comparison in same light/room etc. Steff, are you and Plllog gonna come with me? I'll buy lunch, at Harvey's!

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Yes, well The Lodge and The Chateau are a bit over the top in many ways. We stayed in The Lodge and it was quite nice. Check out Fallen Rock, you even get your own concierge who sits around 24 hours just in case you need something.

They don't have many pictures of The Spa, it's a wonderful mix of Asian and Modern that I would love for my new bathroom. No spa treatments for me, but I did work out and swim at the attached fitness center and it was wonderfully relaxing.

Do you think the LeC place has a showroom or is it just a distribution center? It seems odd that LeC would be so hard to find in Canada.


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I called but it was after office hours and they're closed. Yeah Steff, this Le. C is so scarce indeed. Peculiar that The Bay dropped it. Seems like their marketing strategy at Le. Cr. Canada is selling to Independents who sell for full pop $$. They are also told to maintain prices. It's OK but certainly won't bring you any serious volume and larger dealers will not be dictated to and just toss the line out, if otherwise. One thing I've always regretted as an Apple guy. Apple like Miele dictates the price (surprised they get away with it with free enterprise) so you NEVER get a deal on their product. Shame.

Another thing I observed. Seems like the production of this Cast cookware has a high defect ratio. Hence Le Cr. very cleverly has set up their own distribution channel with "Company Outlet stores" to liquidate the defective mdse. Clever indeed. All parties are happy. Le Cr. has zero waste. Consumer is motivated by lower "Outlet" prices. Brand quality/image is not tarnished by sliding off defective mdse.


BTW thanks to you and Steff for the nice Stock recipe. This is a whole new concept for me. I have never cooked with a stock. Correction I think I made a couscous dish once that asked to do so. But how logical, why just add water to rice etc. when you can add flavor.

The Vegas Sonoma Outlet with the nice Mexican girl kept raving about the 5.5 Qt as her "Caldo" pot. But all the while I have "soup" in my mind for Caldo. But caldo is broth. And now I see that all the Mexican cooking also uses broth and why the rice in all restaurants is colored and flavored. I just assumed they added things on the go to the water while preparing the rice/food. Come to think of it, Chinese Hot and Sur soup has has some starter broth.


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Le Creuset is sand cast and enamelled. The seconds at the outlet have very minor defects like a splot of the wrong color in the wrong place, or bump, or something like that. Nothing that affects the actual use. There are a lot of more failed failures, I'm sure, that never see the light of day. There have been factory outlets since there have been factories, but these outlet malls are pretty newfangled. Maybe 20 years? You're right that they're a great secondary distribution channel for Le C., which is otherwise sold at high end places like Bloomingdale's, Sur La Table, and Williams-Sonoma.

Re stock, just make sure what's in it if you (shudder) buy it. Usually, they're a quarter sodium. When you make your own stock, you don't season it other than with the naturally occurring salt in the celery, et al. Salt makes it freeze at a lower temperature, but more importantly, you want to season your particular recipe, not have stock be a substitute for the salt shaker.

This is my mother's paella rice--it's similar in concept to Mexican rice.

Rice to fill bottom of the pan (large iron skillet)uncooked
Brown the rice with a spray of olive oil
Stir, cook on med. till brown (starts to pop like popcorn)
Add broth, tomato juice, or whatever.
plus salt if needed
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Thanks Plllog....Bbut if you keep doing this, how will I ever leave the house and get on an airplane. Did you say The Maldives???

Sheeze;;; First you saddle me with the cast iron pots. Next you'll have me barefoot and pregnant in the Kitchen!


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Customer Contact

Plllog!

Just got a mail from a consumer in Santa Cruz CA wanting to buy our product!

Funny, I still get a tickle anytime I see personal mails roll in from consumers. And considering we DO NOT advertise, it is only through word of mouth that one would know about our product.

My reply: (i couldn't resist) Only get these once a year or so.

You will love your Adventure Towl! Do feel free, anytime, to give us your thoughts. We are very passionate about our products and the Customers who use them. Enjoy!


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HEE!!! You must take pictures when you start showing. We'll sell them to the Inquirer and make a bundle. That'll pay off the chateau in no time.


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Steff-I forgot to ask you but do you have or have seen the 2 in 1 Le. C cutie that we keep talking about?

You really have to hold it, to feel it, in your arms...

Here is a link that might be useful: Have you really?


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Ewwww

Disgusting!

Here is a link that might be useful: Disgusting


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Quick!

Hide it. Put it away so no one can see it.

Here is a link that might be useful: The Ever Clever Japanese


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Well!

Notice some resemblance?

My box says Cobalt. But Cobalt it is NOT.

Here is a link that might be useful: To Azure


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Confirmed?

Yup.

Here is a link that might be useful: The Real Mr. Cobalt


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Cobalt in person doesn't look like that picture. And, as I said, the flaw in the cobalts at the outlet might be that they came out the wrong color, and it's not azure, just not proper cobalt either.

Don't worry about it! If you don't like it sell it, like all those fridges. Or learn to love it. If you stop thinking so hard, you'll just figure out that it's a great pot to cook in.


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I meant that cobalt doesn't look like the one on the Le Creuset site.


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If you want a cobalt to match the tile you could make your next purchase a cobalt to avoid having to return the one you already have.

Interesting the Japanese approach to Apple. They are so reluctant to admit they love the products since they are not a Japanese company yet the lines are longer than New York.

I did see the 2 in 1 at Round Rock and really liked it. My decision is to wait until fall and evaluate my requirements. I already have enough skillets and pans to do everything in the kitchen.


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Steff, there's no need for the Two In One if you have skillet. Solly (who seems to have gone off to Amish country without saying good-bye) likes company in his purchases.


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No I haven't...

No Internet and telephone.

And in a deep funk (very very rare for me) Sigh;;;;;;

Sorry. (HEAD DROOPED LOW)


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So you were without internet or phone for a day and now you're in a funk? Or something else caused this?

Is the Adventure Towl your product? Nice quality with variations for different target markets. It's a spa towel and we thought it was some kind of technology.


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((((Hugs))))

Will tying some sunshine yellow Talavera tiles to your head cheer you up? It's amazing how fun the world can be if you have weird things one your head!

Or pet a bunny!

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News from Q97 FM- Buffalo from "The Most Beautiful City In The World", yes it's really their byline.

Ex-con :) Martha Stewart has a her own line of Cast Iron Cookware at Macy's. Looks well made with beautiful colors. What a Cobalt!

The line ups at Chipotle's are still right out the door!

Yes Steff the North yearns for your Tex Mex. BTW there was a Mexican restaurant right beside the Grove Outlet. I tried going but it was closed by the time I finished.

Plllog-what on earth are you doing? Have the contractors showed up yet? My Strippers are coming on Monday.


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Thanks Steff-Thanks Plllog, you're really sweet. I love the Bunny. Bunnies are cute but that one's REALLY cute. Is it your's Plllog? I know they're quite affectionate.

No Steff, it wasn't the Internet it was the Biz. I got a really vicious, threat email from our biggest client (not the big new order) about late deliveries. I took it personally as heads of any operations likely do.

To make a long story short, our packaging Supplier (China-where else?) produced thousands of pcs. that were defective. In order to not jeopardize our quality reputation or our Clients', I elected not to use the bad stock and had it remanufactured. This delayed any standing PO's. In the meantime, we have made sure that partial orders have been shipping every week since Feb, so as to keep the Retailer always reasonably stocked.

We have supplied our client for almost 20 years with obviously a solid record of quality-service. However in the one instance, where unforeseen events took place, beyond our control, the Customer was quick to chastise and ultimately threaten our position as their Supplier.

Upon reading the mail, I was not only in fury but absolutely shocked. I questioned every aspect of life. Most notably that of being a Businessman. It suddenly occurred to me that relationships are in essence totally valueless. It was like being married to a Woman for 20 years and the first time you had a problem (say NSF bank chq) she was ready to divorce and leave?

While I somehow ended up in the world of business (but wanted to be a Professional Tennis Player), I have never respected the world of business. Where selfish aims, lies, greed, power, jockeying, hidden motives etc. are mainstays. All of which I have always refused to participate in. Ooops I almost forgot one, planned obsolescence :)

24 hours ago, I saw my business life flash before me and quite frankly was about to let it go, for good. I saw the world of business for what it was; insensitive, entirely self-serving and ruthless. I thought about the delivery I made at 1 A.M. to a Customer in TO, 2 weeks ago on a Friday night. I remembered driving one hour to the Fed Ex Depot last week so a desperate customer could have their goods the next day. The girl's email I received just 2 days before, from Santa Cruz CA. She was stunned by a return phone call (at 10PM EST) to her general email inquiry and was full of praise! The force behind our success is Lexus' coin "In Pursuit of Perfection". Our's is "Quality Above All".

In deciding whether I would feel bad packing it in, I asked myself one question. "If you walked onto the court for the Men's Championship at Roland Garros tomorrow morning and played 100% to the best of your ability and still lost, would you feel ashamed?" The answer is NO.

So should the moment be presented, yes, I am willing to walk away knowing that we produced the best quality in the entire world, were leaders in our segment, and provided unheard of levels of service. I have no regrets.

Today I was at one of my idols website's wondering how I will reach that same goal in life, to create a foundation that fosters growth, motivation, and gives hope to the underprivileged.

America's Williams Sisters of Tennis have also done great work in Africa with their foundation and should be applauded for it.

Told ya it wasn't an everyday funk!

P.S. I wouldn't want to be in the Martha Stewart Enamelled Cast Iron Returns/Warranty Dep't., judging by all the reviews on Amazon of all the chipped and cracking pieces of this "Chinese" made Cookware. Run!

Here is a link that might be useful: Roger Federer Foundation


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Good idol. RF, besides being nigh on invincible for so many years is reported to be genuinely nice, considerate, and polite. There must be a killer in there somewhere for him to be that dominant (as opposed to a Todd Martin who had a beautiful game but no killer instinct), but Federer's is very well masked by a civilized decorum.

Not my bunny. I just poked around looking for something that couldn't fail to make you feel a little happier, and found that stinkin' cute li'l bunny!

I'm sorry for your bad day, and sour experience, but there's a lot about commerce that's also friendly, expansive, welcoming, civilizing, etc. Mutual commerce may be the glue that brings peace to the world. You don't go blowing up your best customer!

As you pointed out, you also don't go blowing up your best supplier, which is why you shouldn't take one horrible e-mail so badly to heart. Do you have any more of the blue ones? If you do, perhaps you can send half a dozen to the purchasing department for their own use, with a letter saying that you were very sorry your supply chain problems had negatively impacted them, that you've been diligent in making sure that they had an ongoing supply of first quality product, because their business was too important to you to allow them to be shifted to backorder status, even though you couldn't completely fill their order until more of your best quality product could be made, and that you hope they'll stick with you as you do everything within your power to ensure that they receive the best possible product as quickly as you can get it to them. Meantime, you hope they'll enjoy the blue beauties you've sent for their personal enjoyment (if you have some--if not substitute a fruit basket or something). That they are a special product you aren't currently offering because you can't supply that kind of quality at the initial special run price. That they are a special gift to the people who have been so patient with you.

A little soft soap and a gift can go a long way when someone's stress overwhelms her (the writer probably got chewed out by the powers that be).

You've got to do this if you want the foundation. I'd be happy to have you spend the chateau and Astin Martin money on the foundation, but first you've got to make the money...


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Plllog, wow what a paragraph! Can you get on that plane right now please, I think you'd be better off in this chair rather than doing all your fancy, funky, cooking stuff at the Chateau. I've already got a big apology/diplomat type letter with the usual yes I'm extremely sorry, these are the reasons why we are in this predicament and we are doing our utmost to correct the problem. Draft #3 and needing to press the send button shortly. I was going to wait until Monday morning so that I can follow the email up with phone call. That allows one to both gauge the opponent and fan the fire accordingly.

Gift huh... I can't do flowers, it's a man. He got a bottle of Bollinger at X-Mas. Well I've got an idea for that, believe you me. Got something actually better than the Blues, also 10 times the price mind you. Those are the ones to be used at the Chateau, without doubt.

A couple of weeks ago, a very nice Sales Rep from my new freight company paid us a visit and we got chatting. He said to me that while his job was OK, what he truly desired in life was to to do something that can make a difference, a positive influence in the lives of others. Not just working but working to support a cause. Suddenly my philanthropic ears perked up twitching, and yes, we began storming wildly. He was aware of the incredible quality of our product and instead of so overdone, low quality chocolate bars, cookies, etc, we started talking fund raisers with our product instead. The United Way, Homeless Food banks, Hockey, Baseball, Soccer associations, etc. etc. Disaster Aid releif... We continued for 2 hours with enough ideas to keep us both working until we're 95!

I had shared my eventual Foundation/possible NGO ambitions and incorporating proceeds from individual product sales towards those groups. A little easier said than done and requires time/ travel. Travel?

And it's true Plllog, in the grand scale, business can unite with the world so that it's not all ruthless and self-serving. Body Shop being an example, Fair trade products. This is the tree we are looking to climb.

But after reading your post a third time, it just occurred to me that because our sales are Business to Business not to consumer or end user, as a Manufacturer, we don't have that bond to the marketplace. The Retailer has that role. We get maybe 2-3 consumer emails per year! Always dealer inquiries.

Trust me I will be doing everything in my power/arsenal to get out alive as in we will fly the goods in by Air, at our cost, at 25x the cost of ocean freight!

I look at this as the French Open Championship and like RAFA (actually my real idol, not Federer, I just like Federer -alot) I would never let a single point go and certainly not my French Open Title.

VAMOS!


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Mutual commerce may be the glue that brings peace to the world.

This eloquent little line may due for a trip to The Folder. Adios palabras.


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So you like clay, huh? I actually hated playing tennis, but I was a big time Pete Sampras fan, and remember well the day Federer took out Sampras at Wimbledon using Sampras's own (mental) game against him! I love (watching) grass court tennis, and repine its dip in favor. Ah, tennis. I loved batting balls against the wall, forehand, backhand, forehand, backhand. All the other little drills were fun enough too. Those were all in the shade. But who wants to run around a great big swath of sunny concrete radiating heat up and melting the shoes, just to play pingpong on a grand level? No, no, no!!!! No running around in the sun pour moi. Trail rides (big shady hat, non-reflective dirt trails, green foliage moistening the air, and a good leather saddle and heavy blanket between one and hot horse sides), si! Tennis, non! But then I read Thunderhead and started feeling sorry for the horses...


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I hope your email and concessions on shipping does the trick for your client. It's not at all uncommon in business for clients to fire off threatening emails over such things. We all wish they wouldn't, but they do. You have a good plan for getting things back on track and personal contact really is the best way. I don't know how much contact you had with them regarding the quality and shipping issues, but you can always promise to keep them better informed.

Commerce is good and it's been around forever. It's not just for profit businesses where people behave this way. I have worked on volunteer projects and fund raisers where the problems were far more serious and less acceptable than any I encountered while working for a profit making business.

It's really not possible to live life without a few compromises. No matter how rich or talented, you have to impose discipline and limits somewhere or do what is needed to pay the bills.

From the website it looks like your company has a great approach to business and the quality is there so not only should you keep this customer but you will continue to gain more.


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Thanks Steff! Glad you enjoyed the site. The vicious part of the email that got to me was "To be honest, I can order the product from Asia faster myself. I'll need to find another Supplier if you can't ship faster".

This was very rude if not downright indignant. I could never imagine saying such to my Suppliers no matter how irate I may be. Considering the image of Canadians, I'm stunned that those words came out of one.

Perhaps my philosophy of business, one of enduring partnerships with both your Suppliers and Customers is naive. In Sports, if your teammate loses the ball or the point, do you threaten to dispose of him from the team?

The comment also showed ignorance. To really harness the value of any product and service with success takes time = energy. I spend 100% of my time on this one product, enormous efforts in the sourcing/traveling designing/buying all the individual components that go into making the finished product. Could a Retail Buyer of 50-100 different product categories possibly have the time or initiative? Unlikely. Also, a Retailer has say 50, 000 different items in a store. Can they possibly afford to buy each item directly and risk that kind of cash flow in an industry where margins are already tight?

Funny story about finding a new Supplier. 2 years ago, one of our 2 products was delisted for another Supplier with a much less expensive product. Upon meeting in person, I showed the Buyer technically how poor his "Chinese" item was and asked him if such low quality product, relative to ours, was the image that his company wanted to project let alone the type of quality they subjected their customers to? You know, you are what you sell type of thing.
I left it that and in 2008 received a surprise phone call from the same Buyer that he had made a decision to go exclusively with only our entire product line and would like to add all of our lines.

This is why such language and behavior startled me. Yesterday we were his poster boy, today we are his slum rats? Sometimes I wish that we weren't so passionate about our product/company and then we would enjoy, chill and just float as they do in Latin America with a big smile and... Manana :)


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I think what he meant was that he could find your factory in China and bribe them to sell directly to him.

The fact is that in business as well as in every other part of life, there are darlings and devils, sweethearts and SOB's, and everything in between. I'm sure this guy wasn't thinking about how he might be hurting the feelings of an actual person. He was just being the big tough guy insisting on "my way or the highway".

It's nothing to do with you! Do your best. It's all you can do. Just don't confront him toe to toe. That kind of guy isn't going to back down. Go around him, surprise him, and refuse to engage directly. And if you need to, call him on his bluff. "Sir, I'm so sorry we are no longer meeting your needs. We would be very sorry to lose you as a customer, but we understand if you find a product or source that better meets your needs. If we can ever be of service to you in the future, we will be more than happy to resume our relationship with your company."

Meantime, pet a bunny.


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Plllog- Do I like Clay? Well how can I put this? There is no other surface in all of Tennis that defines, exposes, and demands all of the vital elements of the game of tennis. And on this basis, Roland Garros becomes the definitive quintessential Major of all the Grand Slams. Wimbledon is about tradition and pompous eloquence, US Open about big time/prime time America (especially your Todd Martin), the Australian is about endurance and stamina. The latter three all allow you to be one dimensional and still succeed. Roland Garros, no chance. Long, enduring rallies that require thought and construction of each and every point. And sorry to say, that your Grass King Pistol Pete was nothing but a blank pea shooter in Paris.

And hey Plllog, am I ever impressed that you remembered that historically defining match in tennis history when the then fresh "new" Roger Federer systematically took apart Sampras, the Seven time Wimbledon Champion and ushered in the Changing of The Guard in Men's Tennis for so many years to come.

LOL!! on your hitting against the wall. Actually this was the way Bjorn Borg became so great. Growing up on a farm, he had a giant Barn where he would mindlessly bang away for hours to eventually become the human backboard that he was well known for and the mental rock that made him an "Ice Borg".

Today's young have no idea how easy they have it standing in front of a machine instead of an imposing, mind numbing brick wall.

But Plllog, did you ever take lessons? The game is really eternal and one that you always adore. Personally, I have still never desired, been curious or even contemplated Golf because such intermittent activity would seriously bore me to tears and put me gently to sleep.

Steff? Do you like or have you played? Maybe you're a Golfer?


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Bunny Power!

Meantime, pet a bunny.

((Thunderous Roaring)) LOL!!!

You are a real card Polly. Where do you come up with these? Must be the Sea Breeze. I hope you're on the way to the Airport, you'll be needed indeed Monday morning. I'm sure Conan has a place for you too. But mine's more serious yet temporary.


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Polly-. None of our products are made in China (unfortunately our packaging-yes). And yes, did we ever have a taste of that Apple (bad) many times.

The beauty about doing business with CHINA is it's like going to the Casino. You never never know what you might win...or lose ;) Also, as I learned many times, when you do have a problem-after the sale-good luck with refund or resolution. It's "no problem we will make the next order much better, faster and cheaper."

The greatest story is the world famous German stuffed Toy company-Steiff.

Here is a link that might be useful: Good Bedtime Reading


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Whoops forgot a very key point in the Tennis summary of Majors.

Roland Garros is the only one where sheer power does not guarantee victory.


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Ooops! Sorry. I thought you meant it was all made in China.

Yes, to the tennis lessons. There was a wall with a line on it at net height, and boxes to aim for as well. The wall was between me and the dreaded sun! I like the speed of grass, and, even more, I like the volleying. They never volley at Roland Garros. I like long rallies too, but not so much baselining. Plus, I have a bad memory from a clay paddle tennis court at a beach club.

I haven't watched so much tennis on TV in recent years. Caught a little of the French, but if I'm feeling okay I can't just veg out and watch other people play.

BTW, Sampras also grew up banging the ball against a garage door. But you can't rag on me for pulling for the home town boy!!

BTOW, all three other majors were grass not so long ago. Grass was the court of choice for hundreds of years. I might have stuck with it better if I'd been offered Real Tennis. Played in the shade, on grass, with small raquets and natural strings, with floppy bonnets tied under the chin and long white lawn skirts. Yep. That's my kind of tennis. I played on grass in Mexico in high summer and didn't even mind the sun so much--and the court didn't seem as stupefyingly big...


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Banging might create winners but it's not tennis. Winning majors is about grinding down the opponent not playing a beautiful game. Ref. Todd Martin.


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!!!! RAFA !!!!


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You're surprised? I was actually up early today, but it was over when I turned it on.


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---> Korea and Germany. Our German one- fabric is patented.

Winning majors is about grinding down the opponent not playing a beautiful game

Well said. Are you sure you haven't been talking to Johnny Mac lately?As he said today about Rafa, "he just grinds you down". as poor Soderling found out. His last 2 long matches cost him the final.

Congrats on the Grass Plllog! Sounds like you really like it and lucky you got to play on it. I have never played on a grass court in my lifetime. Very astute of you and true. All the current Majors were Grass. In fact, Flushing meadows when Jimmy Connors won his first US Open in the massacare of Ken Rosewall, was on Grass. I agree with you, hard courts are horrible and Clay & Grass should be the only surfaces permitted. Plus both are natural not some man made, high maintenance, knee destroying thing.

Now ya see why my dream is to play in Monte Carlo?

The club in my town here is 6 Red Clay (nice!) and 6 Hard.

LOL!! on the Real Tennis with bonnet hats, long flowing skirts! You're such a little fashionista/artista. BTW Venus Williams designs her own clothing and Jewellery. Her little Black skirt at Roland Garros this year was... nice!

Say, was Pistol Pete really your hometown hero? Does he still live there with his little Blonde movie star? Yeah I remember he was a CA boy.

You like long rallies huh? Do you remember bygone French Opens where Borg-Vilas played. Yes they had continuous 100+ stroke rallies. It was insane.

Today's victory for Rafa was very special. He waited one long year for this moment to avenge his only loss at Roland Garros,, last year to Soderling. The fire in his eyes was eery. This was a warrior that came to battle and assert his territory. And what a Champion. As Mac said, he played his absolute best match of the tournament, today. That's why Rafa and Federer have shared the last 23 Majors. True Champions rise on Championship Day.

After last year's stunning exit to Soderling, it appeared that the end had come for the Maiorcan. He relinquished his crown by pulling out of Wimbledon, his knees in trouble, the divorce of his parents (he lives at home), and going 11 months without winning a tournament.

Today, Rafa is officially the new World #1.

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You like long Rallies?

You like Grass?

Quick, run to the tube right now!

There's a replay of the epic 2009 Wimbledon Final with Federer's 5th Set victory over Roddick. What a match!


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MacEnroe was listening to me! I've been trying to explain the mental game that is champion quality tennis to the skeptics for many years. Trying to explain why Andre Agassi was never in trouble early in 5 set matches because he do well playing cold, and his deal was running his opponents into the ground then jumping on them. Federer plays a bit of that and a lot more of the Sampras like psych out.

The thing I've been listening to Mac on is that I agree they should go back to wood rackets. Then they'd actually have to play tennis because they couldn't just bang their way around the court. Baseball players use wood bats! It's not unprecedented!

The real game of tennis was the volleying and it wasn't about the server scoring points by heaving unhittable balls into the corners, it was about have long rallies where the person who dropped the ball would lose a point. Oh, halcyon days!


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That's good advice from plllog on working around the client's personality. There are personality types that can't just say they really, really need to get more of a product in stock without resorting to threats. It's more about him than your product.

I have heard those stories about making quality things in China being a problem although I had thought it would have improved in the new China. It's really difficult to convert from turning out cheap goods at a rapid pace to the type of quality Steiff requires.

I did play quite a bit of tennis for fun years ago and followed the tour back in the days of Evert, McEnroe, and Connors. Golf is my game now and I enjoy it very much. We do play some Wii tennis now and then which is a lot of fun and quite competitive.

At the upper levels of any sport the competition is so good it has to be about the mental game to win consistently. It's the same in golf.


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Bah!!! I've just spent the entire day updating my iPhone. Great device. Bad interface. Bit PITA!!! Apple -- :-P


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Ouch! Sorry to hear that Plllog, we better do take out tonight. Steff should be here from the Golf course any second now. But why updating? I don't get it. Transferring data from another phone? I can't see that. You only have one iPhone.

Dazed and confused?

BTW Steve's rehearsing his lines right now fro WWDC tomorrow morning.

We all get to see the real thing-finally!

Will Steff be the winning "predictress"? (sounds good) Will Plllog? My word is that it is exactly the same as the "leaked" iPhone.


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Software, Solly! Software! New version. Can only do it from one of the rear USB's on a clean boot, so first thing, I pull the computer out of the cabinet, and unplug the printer from its USB and plug in the phone. I do a quick e-mail get while downloading the latest iTunes and install that. Then download and install the new iPhone software. That takes a few hours. Then get all the app updates, which take another couple of hours to download. Sync for a scant hour, then manage the apps (organization) and sync again. All day. Was supposed to have kitchen help but he had to take a meeting. Sigh. At least I can feel virtuous with a clean phone. :)


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New iPhone OS 4.0? But Steve is just revealing it to the world tomorrow morning. Did Apple already pull the trigger tonight?

Oh! Yeah I see how you burned the clock on this soap. I guess on a Mac, non mobile OS, it's much easier. I get the notification window from Apple, say OK Download-password- and bingo it goes, rarely more than 2-3 minutes. But mobile OS must be a whole different game, naturally.

BTW. I just pressed the send button. And guess what? Your exact piercing words, with a RAFA tweak, was the closing paragraph (compliment). ((Big Hugs)) and even bigger thank you to you and Steff both for the positive input. Now I'm really not scared to call tomorrow. In fact, I feel assertive and will talk accordingly as in "Let's be grown up and civilized about this and face the unexpected as we do in any aspect of everyday life". S#*@ happens!

"### I'm very sorry that our unforeseen supply chain problems have negatively impacted you. But even though we couldn't completely fill your order, until more of our best quality product could be made, rest assured we've been diligent in making sure that you did have an ongoing supply of first quality product in your DC at all times; because your business is too important to us to allow you to be shifted to backorder status. After all, (company name)'s success is also our priority.

Thank you for your understanding.

P.S. I will be following up this letter by telephone with you on Monday for further clarification."


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No, no, now iPhone OS 3.x.y.z.

Oh, Sol, I'm so glad to be able to help! Do watch the run on sentences though! I do them in chat because that's the way I talk, but I clean them up for business. [big wink]

Your plans for the grown-up phone call sounds excellent!


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Good job on the email. Let us know how it works out. Interesting take on supply chain problems. Subtle message that if he tries to go direct, he's stuck with the supplier issues.

You have some great photos on the website. Spectacular locations and great subjects.


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Polly where are you??

I'm here in the Arrivals at Pearson Int'l Airport in the drop top waiting.

Surely there must be an App for that.


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Umm. It's Monday.

Thanks Steff. And you are oh so sharp to have picked up that subliminal message. Spent 2 hours on the phone last night with my Suppliers in tackling this operation. I repeat, we are praying that our cut fabric arrives tomorrow.

I'm thrilled that you liked the website and our concept. It was entirely designed by Ms. Wonderful and it reflects the reality of a company whose worker's are as passionate about Traveling as the products we create for it.

Steff-Didn't you just say that we need some more Adventure Galleries up there? Yes, I'm dying to leave...after the storm settles :)


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You can tell the boss your need more photos and quote me as objective observer. I noticed many were a more than few years old and attributed that to your business being successful. I thought Ms. Wonderful might be in there somewhere since you mention talking with her often.

Also noticed some adventurers out there making blog posts about the towel which means it works as advertised.


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But...Solly, morning comes a lot later over here and the tickets were issued in local time! It's all June gloomy so I guess this means I can go back to bed...


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Thanks Steff!-Please say it LOUDER to the boss. "Get that rascal outta here so the Adventure Gallery can be updated".

Ok something I forgot to share as part of this equation. My customer is very eco sensitive and hence wanted 20% recycled fabric instead of our standard. We immediately warned him that there is no world demand for this yarn and so the very long lead times will negatively affect delivery. He still insisted and ordered us to shift all future production to recycled. Aside: I discouraged the choice not just for time issues but because I and my Supplier felt it was Greenwashing. 20 % Recycled? who cares? It is 80% not recycled in reality. Frankly, anything less than 100% is really useless for eco bragging rights. My Supplier also discouraged because it costs 25% more. For what? to have 20% of something? There is also a good counter argument against recycled that medical friends of mine have debated. Taking into account all the energy used to create a recycled item, is it really any more Green? I agree, good point.

Anyway, this was another reason we are backordered. I had to tactfully throw that in his face with at verbatim:

"I knew it would cause trouble and disrupt delivery times as we warned against. But to make you happy, as our most valued Customer, I still elected to produce it. As the Coach of our Baseball team, I should have made the decision and known better not to put in a brand new pitcher in the 6th inning of the World Series. I accept full responsibility for my coaching decision. It would have been better to let the new Pitcher break in during the off season. We are now in your PEAK SEASON. It is the World Series. Therefore, please let us go back to the original material so we can put our proven starters back on the mound and still win this thing."

He agreed.

Shockingly, he then admitted that this kind of thing always happens with stuff they make direct in China. China! deep inside I laughed with glee and certainly no surprise.

So why the rude, insulting, threatening, attack?

Sheeze!

P.S. I'm surprised I was so bold in my telephone approach but the original Grizzly Bear like assault seemed to bring it upon me. I just couldn't bear to go into the talk as a sheepish, meek, defeated hound. It's strange even playing Tennis matches, you never quite know what you will do or how you will react until you actually get on the court and the match begins.

P.P.S. After my/Plllog's pinpoint letter yesterday showing compassion, with apology, and reasoning for the woes, it would have been a kind gesture to at least thank the person for bringing light upon the situation. Without such reply, I lost any respect and from this will learn to never do likewise with any of my future business or personal exchanges.


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Treat for Plllog from S&S.

Polly, will you get out from under those sheets please!

I brought you a special Baked Potato from Wendy's, with Sour Cream and Chives!

Steff made you the Chilli-Spicy Texas Style

LOL!!! on hiding under the sheets from the cold. Saturday night weather here was so tumultuous; cold, windy, raining and had all my bedroom windows open. By the time I woke up in the morning for Roland Garros, I was freezing and shivering to the bone. Had it not been for yes, my year round HEAVY White Goosedown Duvet, I would have not made the epic Men's Final.

Plllog, do you think I really should have had a Bunny to pet?


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Sheets??? You meant the laundry? Or the vacuuming? Or the rearranging of kitchen cupboards? Even those of us suffering from the gloom do have work to do!

Oooh! You can have the cream and I'll have the chilitato!

Sol, I think you might be happier with a Labrador Retriever (or decent sized mutt) than a bunny, though it would be easier to clean up after the bunny. You might be happy to have a pet to pet and make lovey eyes at you when bears come roaring and slashing at you. But you do have to have a good sitter when you go adventuring.

I'm still laughing about the guy who special ordered then balked. Amazing. I think you played it just right, man to man with your baseball analogy, but not squaring up for a fight. So...he's threatening to do what he already knows doesn't work because they can't get good stuff from China??? Empty hollow thud.


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So...Why aren't you in Buffalo? (Just kidding...you need a proper Candian one.)


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See anything you've seen before? Still think it wasn't deliberate?


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Ooops. Just read the fine print. When it said available I thought it meant it. I just meant wrist bands. Well, poop! And the OS upgrade doesn't put the good stuff on mine. Sigh.


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Well done, Solly! Congratulations on keeping your customer and getting the agreement to make the product with reasonable expectations.

Thanks for the chili, Texas style has no tomatoes or beans and the meat is cubed instead of ground.

I definitely think that earns a trip to some far off exotic locale like Western PA.

So were you impressed with the rollout of the new iPhone?

Funny that you used a baseball analogy since Canada isn't exactly baseball crazy. Important thing is--it worked!

Interesting debate about recycled materials. We went through that in the design industry and I generally didn't buy into the use of "post consumer polyester" or whatever. I did try to be considerate of my suppliers whenever possible by limiting sample requests and returning them at the end of a project. To me the approach of doing the small, realistic things each day has far more impact than a feel good label.


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For The Little Spoilt One

Oh! so the special Potato didn't give you the goose bumps?

Well maybe this will!

Polly's new toy. Wait a second! that's Solly's new toy. Girls do Dolls don't they?

151753-iphone-4-shot_800


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Girls do computers.

There's one good reason, currently, for post-consumer content: Keeps volume out of landfill. We have a lot of trash and nothing to do with it.

There's a good future reason as well. The more pressure there is to recycle, the more demand there is by people who don't want to throw unreusable stuff out to have it recycled, and the more demand they put on suppliers to make recycled things, the more good stuff people will invent to do with all the junk.

All fabrics used to get recycled by rag pickers. Some ended up in paper. Not sure where it all went. Soda bottles used to be collected, washed and reused. Then came the idea that it cost too much to reuse when we could just throw it out. Bad.

20% is laughable, sure, and sometimes recycling isn't the most efficient usage. But when you look not just at the energy use, but the whole production cycle, including what else to do with the waste, the numbers get fuzzy.

Interesting thing about paper: The fibers start pretty long in good quality paper. In recycling they get shortened. Leads to grocery bags that don't work without being doubled (yes, the cure is reusing canvas, but that's not the point). It also leads to softer paper. I grew up using high quality paper napkins. I couldn't stand the "paper towelish" bumpy ones, like Zee. (Cloth isn't a great choice in a drought prone area, and just means diverting the icky messes to other disposables.) The 7th G. recycled, bumpy little napkins are great! They're much softer. And for actually wiping hands and mouth on, rather than draping one's lap with, one or two is perfect for a meal, whereas I often feel like I have to reuse the better ones which aren't used up enough to throw away.


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Well Steff, now that put a smile on Cinderella's face.

I guess the Potato just didn't have the WOW factor that this hunk of lust has.

Do I like it? I fainted when I saw Steve chattering about it's virtues. With all the Android hype, looks like Jobs really went for the jugular on this 4.0 He had to in order to distance himself and push the goal posts further. What a screen! The design is really sleek. It looks like an instrument! A finely chiseled thing.

It looks slimmer than the leaked phones. But the leak was no dummy shell at all. So I'm still at my original theory. It really did get in the wrong hands. He was testing it as they do every new device. What do guys think? Staged leak or true accident. If staged, it certainly kept us up at night waiting and not daring to go buy something else.

And yes, I pressed the "Reserve Now" button so Plllog won't tease me with my $29 Nokia Prepaid Card toy. BTW I never did unlock it and never had a phone since 5 finger Charlie crashed my party.

Polly-I'm so happy for you. At&T has a $19 upgrade deal for you.

Steff- Would you?


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Should say though, that I agree with Steff 100% about everyone doing the little things daily having a greater overall effect.


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Steff- I wanted to say that the phone call did play on my nerves. All day I was walking through the motions, remembering Plllog's "you don't want to rumble with this Bear" so I was thinking taming. But not sucking taming knowing that he'll bite again and make you bleed.

First I said I'd do it in the morning. Then I pushed it to after lunch. Then it was after dinner. I felt the pressure and went for a 20 minute walk, came back and drank a laced 3 bag pot of Tazo "Calm" and went straight to the phone ready to take him on. It's strange because although I drank the Tazo-Calm, I was still pretty revved up.

There was even a brash cocky sentence that I spewed forth. "Based on your Email it seems you questioned our ability to be able to supply your orders. Perhaps you should know that in 2009, our factory actually shipped 4.5 million towels worldwide and can be seen at every major Retailer in Europe. Truth. More Europe however. My Supplier has very few customers in N. America since the market here is all about cheap$$/low quality=CHINA=WalMart. Europe wants quality so CHINA has no chance against us there.


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Interesting debate about recycled materials. We went through that in the design industry and I generally didn't buy into the use of "post consumer polyester" or whatever. I did try to be considerate of my suppliers whenever possible by limiting sample requests and returning them at the end of a project. To me the approach of doing the small, realistic things each day has far more impact than a feel good label.

Amen!!

Thanks Steff. So eloquently put.

I'm so glad you agree. I stood my ground and voiced your same opinion to this Buyer as stated above. It is Greenwashing. Done strictly for the sake of a label. It's still 80% not recycled or "evil". So why bother.

I also remember that our local Supermarkets stopped taking the plastic shopping bags for recycling some time back. I inquired with the Store Manager and the convertor stopped picking up for $$ reasons and the business wasn't worth it. In other words, the money spent in breakdown and revenue from converting obviously didn't pay off.

P.S. Last night when I was on the phone with my factory pushing them to order more recycled material, my rep said "Shouldn't we wait until we get this recycled fabric next week and at least make sure it is good quality and has the same feel and touch as our standard top quality fabric? " Now that's dedication and care. I was impressed. But I said NO, just order it anyways. I've got an angry Bear climbing up my tree.

So if you push too much in life, sometimes people will just give up and "give the people what they want" good or bad.


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Staged. Or accident they hoped would never surface. Staged, more likely.

Oh, cool, Sol! I hadn't seen about the AT&T deal. That's $199, though. Couldn't figure what the $19 one was. But it's still cool. I thought I'd have to wait until my 2 year date. The article I found said AT&T want their high paying (i.e., all iPhone) customers to have early upgrades to the best equipment. Who knew they'd do something smart? As in give the people what they want and keep 'em loyal? Good move, Ma Bell!

I love the folders, nearly limitless number of apps, and the multitasking. Not sure I like the new shape. I'll have to see it in person. Not so hand friendly.

Guess I'll really have to look into this. My brother has a touch. I wonder if he'd be interested in taking over my old phone.


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ROTFL!!! Solly, that was a crosspost. I had no idea you were using the same words as a negative at the very same moment. Trs droll!


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May I Add

Oh-as in great minds think alike ;)

BTW-for the record, Steff is the reigning Cross-Posting Queen. Last week she had me howling!


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"20% is laughable, sure, and sometimes recycling isn't the most efficient usage."

Oh great, now you speak out! Where were you in April when I had this exact tussle with my Buyer?

Oooooh how I'd love to pay you $$$ to write a letter to my Buyer and repeat the exact words above. Polly? Lifetime laundress? you're getting the Horses already. How about 2 Grass courts? One permanently has a Prince hydraulic Ball machine to make you into the next Jankovic, and the other reserved for pro sets and company.

Steff-will you need to tune up your Golf game while at the Chateau? That could be a big project... and lots of grass seed!


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Plllog, remember when you wouldn't let me get the Pad?

I guess you were right weren't you? This beauty is wayyy better for Travel and frankly looks more fun and is more versatile.

See Steff, I am thinking along your lines. Now if only that Big Meanie Boss of mine would let me go, I could shoot another Gallery for the website, stay in touch with the Office (proving that I am a true Company man!) and answer my emails.

Solution: Buy loyal worker new iPhone 4.0 and force him to get on jet airplane and go shoot a proper Gallery. What a disgrace, it hasn't been updated for years!

;;;;;; Tisk Tisk


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Hm... I don't know. Are the insides of Jet Planes gallery worthy? Wouldn't it be better to take a seat and go somewhere interesting before you start shooting? Just saying...


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Reminiscing

Steff- I just looked at the clock and about this time last week, I was on the way home, driving back from your lovely Grove City PA, with my Le Creuset heist.

The rain really put a damper on the ride but I was just psyched from the whole mission-accomplished.

Yes Plllog- your call was dead on. I was at W. Sonoma on Saturday and looked at Flamme, and no, did not feel any Flamme. Glad to have doubled up on "the cutie". You'll laugh, but all the other Le. C's are in their respective boxes except that one on the plywood counter. I just look at it on occasion and smile. A pot with a hat. The balance is so incredible. The handle length to pot ratio. Serious ergonomics.

Say, can I get the the larger 2 in 1!

Steff-Did you say your family needed some prime Canadian Maple Syrup delivered to Grove City?


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