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| Just a backstory: we have a home that was built in 1900. However, in 1986, we put on an addition.
We have a furnace and AC system that is about 7-8 years old. But, our house just has always seemed cold. I wouldn't necessarily say drafty, but cold. It is a one story, with an attic and a crawl space. There was no insulation in the old part of the attic, and some batting insulation in the new part. We knew there was some batting insulation in the walls of the new part, and assumed the old part to be hollow. So, we called an insulation company. They came out, went up in the attic to look around, used some fancy contraption to measure heat, and agreed the older part was likely hollow. They quoted us a price, and we hired them. So, they arrived, and drilled some holes from the outside around the house. Come to find out, there WAS cellulose in the walls on the old part. So, they pulled out the batting in the new part, and injected some spray foam. The did nothing with the old part's outer walls. I really would have preferred to have something done with the old part. But, according to them, there was already insulation in there, so they didn't need to do anything. So, they went up in the attic and did some cellulose blown in over the entire attic. We do not remember ever having insulation put in, and my husband has lived here his whole life, and I have lived here 35 years. So, the insulation that is currently there is very, very old. So, I cannot imagine it is very effective. They suggested that we may want to think about insulating the foundation. We have thought about it, but for now, we are waiting to see how much of a credit we will get since they did not have to insulate the whole house. Well, according to the thermostat and an indoor thermometer we have, it is 70 inside our house, with nothing on (45 outside)However, at 70, it is still very cold. we have to layer on sweats, use blankets, etc. It is just very cold. The walls are cool to the touch. I just don't know what to do at this point? |
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| How old are your windows? Are they tight and do they have double panes of glass? The windows are a big source of leakage. This may be part of the problem. Have you tried raising the thermostat to 72 degrees? There may be some temperature vairations in your house. You may have to raise the thermostat a degree or two to compentstate for this. |
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| When you said 'walls are cool to the touch', that is not good. need to buy a temperature gun (around $50) and go around the house, check all walls, ceiling, floor and find the cold spots, so that you know where to add the insulation. |
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- Posted by energy_rater_la (My Page) on Sat, Oct 6, 12 at 16:34
| It is a one story, with an attic and a crawl space. prior to insulation air sealing should be done. since you can't air seal now in the attic..because can you explain this a little more clearly? any insulation in the floors? conventional insulation doesnt work in open crawlspaces. old insulation still retains its R-value unless it in my house..it was the air leakage of the house that if you invest in a blower door test..it will show you mention nothing about your hvac system. more info will help us to help you. btw..40 degrees! brrrr its sunny & 80 degrees best of luck. |
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| melynn- Yours is a somewhat puzzling story, but let me ask this - if you're outside on a mild day (not in the sun) and it's 70 degrees, are you very cold? Could it be a humidity problem inside (cold and damp?)? Had it been raining outside when you felt so cold? Energy, not everyone agrees spray foam is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Some say they perceive and are sensitive to off-gassing, who knows? Petrochemical foam anywhere within a structure presents a great danger in the case of fire. In my mild weather and uber eco-conscious region, spray foam isn't used frequently (to my knowledge) and doesn't have a strongly favorable reputation. I'm sure regional and climate differences offer other answers. |
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- Posted by energy_rater_la (My Page) on Sat, Oct 6, 12 at 19:09
| I've never said foam was the greatest thing since sliced bread. if you read my posts the only places I recommend foam is roofline when ducts & equipment is in attic and floors over crawlspaces. in op's case..if the foam offgassed..which foam may not be a common install in your it has long been my pov that foam is a cover granted this is based on my years in the have a good weekend. |
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| I read your comment as a quasi recommendation - I work in this industry, and here's what I'm going to do with my house. A couple of years ago, I decided to upgrade my attic insulation. I had out the area's largest insulation contractor for a bid. I asked if they did spray foam, the answer was "Yes but I don't recommend it". I asked why, he said "In this area it's not a good investment, too expensive and the payback period is too long. We do it mostly for buildings looking for one green designation or another". I thought I was clear that my comment was based on what I know about my area - isn't that where most comments come from, yours included? This was based on discussions with people I know (including builders) and my discussion with this insulation contractor. I don't question your expertise, nor the applicability of foam in areas with extreme weather. Maybe OP lives in Minnesota, or maybe in San Diego, only know that wherever she is, she'd like to be warmer. |
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- Posted by rayinpenn (RayMills@ThePrudentGardener.com) on Wed, Oct 10, 12 at 5:48
| If the house is 70 and you feel cold lets stick to the basics. 1) Get a home energy audit (blower test) and then caulk / insulate were necessary. I'll bet you use less energy ($) this year and are more comfortable. 2) if your windows are old and drafty you may need to think about replacing them. I've done replacement windows and have been as snug as a bug in a rug. Mine are triple pane. 3) I had several inches of insulation blown into my attic. The house is very comfortable. My kitchen wasn't properly insulated and was freezing in the winter. I insullated and put a yotul gas stove back there in the attached den. It was so effective I bought another for the front of the house. They heat the entire house and the heat is in the room with you. Its running now and it's really toasty. |
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- Posted by Jumpilotmdm (My Page) on Tue, Oct 16, 12 at 20:59
| I'm puzzled. My house thermostat is set at 61. I'd be in trouble if 70 felt cold. Interior humidity might be the only explanation? |
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