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Posted by rizzo0904 (My Page) on Thu, May 17, 07 at 16:02
| Anyone have experience with Weil-McLain furnaces with tankless hot water heaters? |
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| yep they work great there the choice at 2 of the supply houses i go to......... use the ultra if your going with gas or oil. i hope your doing radiant floor and have an outside t-stat to control the water temperature..................... george |
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| Furnaces heat air and boilers heat water. Weil McLain does not make a furnace. To the homeowner that may sound trivial but it makes a world of difference to an HVAC contractor. |
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| Weil-McLain owns Williamson-Thermoflo, and they've rebadged some models as Weil-McLain furnaces. Most of my customers have oil fired boilers, and many of them call their boilers furnaces. Other than manufactured homes, I'm shocked when they actually have a scorched air system. Funny when you hear things like our furnace is leaking, our furnace is frozen or our furnace needs antifreeze. |
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| Maybe its a trade thing about the correct terminology marcus2007 but over the years though I've heard of some newbies who were coming into their own with warm air but still pretty light duty with hot water or steam. So a new customer calls and asks to have his furnace checked and they send this poor kid out. Maybe he tries, maybe he gets lucky, or maybe as he's leaving the call he's saying "gee, I wonder where all those fire engines are going"!!! |
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| I've seen dozens of service people that don't have much experience with boilers, steamers, powerventers, control strategies, radiant and oil fired equipment. Some techs I've met that moved from other areas are used to working on gas fired forced warm air systems, so it's culture shock when they work in areas with mostly oil fired hydronic systems. |
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| You don't say where you hail from but here in the northeast you have to be well versed in nat. and LP gas as well as oil. Some of those old burner techs just DO NOT feel comfortable around gas,,, they're saying "go gas, go boom" which is a lot of crapola! I say "go gas, throw away your soot vac" :-) Besides, the bottom line is there really isn't much difference between the three fuels. They all have to be in a vapor state in order to burn. One does it in the ground, one does it in the tank and one does it at the nozzle. Simple enough to understand after you worked around them for awhile. |
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| I'm from Upstate New York. Most techs service natural gas, oil & LP. Natural gas in the city areas is serviced by a mixture of plumbers, heating techs, and a variety of general contractors. We have a lot of oil & propane fuel/sales/service/installation outfits that service the rural areas... Everything from mobile home furnaces to fireplaces, gas stoves, pellet stoves, System 2000, Buderus & Veissmann mod/con wall hung boilers. Some outfits these days seem to be more interested in selling fuel, service contracts and installing new equipment than doing service. Some people don't service what they sell. Licensing and enforcement of codes is almost nonexistent in many areas of the state. Anyone with a truck and enough knowledge to be dangerous to themselves and their customers is doing general contracting, plumbing, heating and electrical work. |
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| Weil-Mclain is a well known boiler. the other is Burnham. I had to choose between the two brands. I went with Burnham because my plumber had installed and done more work with them and Burnham is made locally in Lancaster, PA. This is my first house with hot water heat, I like it better than forced air and electric baseboard. its more even and warm. I like how the rads stay warm and heat gently heat the room after the boiler is off. Most other people call the boiler a furnace around here as well. |
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