it's possibly the oldest known plucking technique, actually... even older than waxing, and that dates back 4000 years that I know of... there is indeed a 'cat's cradle' technique- there's also a version where the thread is knotted around the hair shaft, and pulled out. I think it's one of those techniques that you're either born into the learning of as a child- or you're never going to pick it up. I'll stick with me tweezers, though... haven't met anyone who can do my brows better than I can.

Based on the comments on this and other boards, I skipped the women's rogaine and went straight to the men's. Actually I bought the Kirkland brand at Costco. I only used it 1 - 2 times a week. It took a long time to see results, but then the results lasted for a long time after I stopped using it. That's logical if you consider the growth pattern of hair. I have just started using it again. My biggest problem is remembering it. I might get the new foam variety which isn't supposed to show so that if I forget to apply it before showering, I can do so after. My hair has lots of body so it doesn't appear to be as thin as it really is, but my part keeps getting wider. Most of my hair loss is at the crown and that is the pattern that is supposed to respond well to rogaine

I am about to try Natural Progesterone for years getting progressively worse and worse i have had facial hair coming in which i will tweeze almost daily . it also grows as what men call a happy trail from my belly button to my pubic hair line and stray hairs in my aureoles.. i have not seen if this is related to low levels of Progesterone or not but intend on looking this up as well. it started about the same time as the facial hair in my mid 20's and by 30 it was more than 5 hairs now it is over 50 they grow over my lip on my chin and my neck. very annoying and embarrassing. i also have not been able to conceive..I have never had a child and did when i was 17 now 36 had a miss carriage have not had a pregnancy scare since.even during long term relationships with more than once weekly sexual relations. I also had a promiscuous ex husband who cheated on me and i though that the std he brought me home that was misdiagnosed for years as a yeast infection and badder infection was the cause of my infertility..lately i have been getting emotional , depressed and tire easily i attributed this to my new as of 6 mo ago night job. but I noticed a few menstrual cycles ago that i was having an irregular cycle i have always had a 2 1/2 to 4 day long period every 29 days to the letter.. very short.. and i have tried to figure out when i ovulate but have had no luck.. recently i have been having irregular cycles. and staining ..and pressure like menstrual bloating. especially over the last 2 yrs i have also noticed i am aging more rapidly my face is not a taught at it used to be the skin under my chin and on my neck seem to have lost some of it's elasticity and i have put on weight not a lot but a good 15 to 20 lbs.my sex drive also has gone way down..from where it used to be.. i can go months with out thinking about sex and don't feel like being touched it actually annoys me .after reading some of this book.. what your doctor may not tell you about premenopause by John R. Lee MD I am beginning to think that all my troubles are one in the same..I also have a sugar craving that sometimes is insatiable.. I have found all of these signs in Natural Progesterone web sites and this wonderful book I intend on doing something about this when i get my next pay check .. and get some wild yam cream Natural Progesterone I will post a fallow up if this page is still here as to if it worked.. I also intend on eating less sugar caffeine and non free range meats. I have almost cut out red meat all together as of now and have begun eating locally grown produce more regularly.. you will find this info also on myspace.. in hopes that it will help others who might be experiencing the same...good luck to all .. quantumdreamer Here is a link that might be useful: my myspace.

Hi - I don't know if HRT causes facial hair, but I do know that menopause can. I've lost it where I want it and gained it where I don't. So I guess it's called FEmale pattern baldness. As we age, our bodies produce more androgens (male-like) properties which may cause an increase in hair growth on our chin and upper cheeks. Just what I want - to shave as often as my husband - NOT! Increased testosterone and decreased progesterone. How much change can our bodies go through? Soy Isoflavones seem to help me. Over 40 million women in the US have unwanted facial hair. I think if we can get our hormones balanced we should be okay. Bobbi