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Thank you... those are very reasonable prices. I want to get one in the shape of the cross. Dan was buried so I thought about what to put in the mini urn... I have no hair and I don't want the dirt that covers his case Instead I chose something alive with power, You see last summer we went to this huge cave, and in the back was a grate that covered an ice pit... I knew what was down there, from family lore... a "walk-in geode", as Dan called it when he got down there and saw. We were both amazed by the crystals which grew from the ceiling and the walls. But vandals had smashed the main foyer to get at the precious crystals in unjustifiable excess. We crawled further down the pit until we were in the very bowels of the earth, and there was a... a hole, an underground fissure - Dan climbed up and slipped through it! If you've ever read Stephen King's Desperation, it was sort of like that - except not evil. Dan went in there and that's when he exclaimed through the icey echoing walls, "it's like a walk in geode"! Well, when it came time to get out of the ice pit, I knew I was going to have problems. I had accidently left my crampons back in Seattle, and the prospect of climbing a steep ice wall without them was daunting. It soon became apparent I wasn't strong enough to exert the required force (about 10 pullups) to get out of there. Dan and my boyfriend were the only two souls with me in the bowels of the earth, and they pulled my butt up out of there, with strong arms. I remember watching Dan shimmy up the ice wall with no problem, just before my miserable attempt. Then I got stuck in the grate, haha, I can still hear him nervously laughing. I had to take my harness off and go back under, crossing over to a bigger hole in the grate like monkey-bars style, with only my own shaking arm muscles and sweaty hands to stop me from plunging into the deep sharp darkeness. That, and Dan's hands reassuringly close through the bars. He helped me out and I crawled through icey mud and water, my precious few prizes digging into my pocketflesh painfully. This whole scary episode took hours, it was real hard for them to pull me out coz I was exhausted from trying with all my might to clamber up this slippery wall and falling. I remember bursting out in the sunlight, so shaky from adrenaline... I knew I could have lost my life, but the two men I loved most were there to save me. I sure wish I could have returned the favor. :( Anyway, Dan came out of there with a piece of the walk in geode, ... it's this little... upright crystal city with a rock base... it has many crystal spires and is breathtakingly beautiful. It was down there covered in dirt and mud deep in the earth, and Dan cleaned it and polished it and set it on his mantle. I took it back when he passed. It is very fragile and the pieces, teh crystal spires come off easily. I'm going to put a few shards in my cross urn. I think it is the place he would want to be. Here is a link that might be useful: Dan's friend's took me to the scene of the accident

Happy B-day, Oak!! Yes, please share your interpretation. What came to my mind in this situation, the bulb is not permanently out, just needs fine tuning a bit -- you know how sometimes if you twist it in the socket it might reconnect and shine. I'm hopeful that's the case here, whether it's just a matter of maturing, having a medical issue factored in or both. I think it is hard for many young people who are exposed to so much dysfunction in the media. They may not clearly understand that what's portrayed as typical is really promoting dysfunctional behavior, and so emulate the cable tv types, spin out of control and suffer the consequences with unhappy and unfulfilled lives. I'm sending good thoughts to the daughter so she can want to find a better path. Z's already on it. ;-) Thnx, blf. You made me reread my double post. I always try to edit before submitting but nonetheless make mistakes, and of course now caught "this" when I meant "thus" far. Oh well, nothing like having one's errors highlighted glaringly twice. LOL Don't know if you're so inclined, but instead of just ignoring MIL, maybe you could send good thoughts/pray for her change of heart. She may be running out of time, but even among the very advanced ageds I've witnessed some amazing transformations. Positive energy/prayer for another's well being definitely won't hurt, and might help!

Yeah, I guess I was doing the respecting for my husband, but partially because I m a mom too, and they are kids, with not the best of judgement for their ages, altho 5 years have passed and they should be wising up by now....I actually have not spoken to them since the wedding fiasco, where the 24 yr old wanted dad to pay half costs, he wont call anymore because we didnt pay...Thr 17 year old hasnt been here either since April, but he has a weekend job, and they live about an hour away, but dad calls him weekly and wants to set up a visit...But, he is hinting around for dad to buy him a car.The kid earns money and has a ton of money in the bank(dad does his taxes, so thats a fact)But kids mother told him he has NO money in the bank, and she controls it...So another case of dad the bad guy, wont pay for my brothers wedding, wont buy me a car..Dad works hard, I work, ex has never had a job in her life.Cries, cries cries, to the kids, get money off them..I wonder what will happen when the 17 yr old is emancipated and no money will be coming in to her, she is 54 years old....We cant be responsible for supporting her forever..Sigh..Seems so far away to be rid of her ...Sorry so long of a whine......Advice to keep sanity????