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Ditra membrane worth the money?

pinstripe
12 years ago

Hello. My contractor quoted me an additional $1100 to use Ditra membrane under the 400 sq ft of porcelain tile he will lay over the cement floor in our walk-out basement. He says it is a good product, but optional. I've seen it on TV and read a bit about it (which makes me want it, of course) but I'm concerned about the cost. Our existing cement floor is level so far as I can tell.

What do you think, is Ditra worth the money? Does your answer change if we install slate rather than porcelain?

Many thanks!

Comments (12)

  • Floortech
    12 years ago

    Does your area freeze in winter and how old is the home? Yes it is a good product.

  • davidro1
    12 years ago

    you don't need to spend that much money.

    any membrane is better than no membrane.

    level-ness is not the subject here; your mentioning it means to me that you have a long learning curve still to go. If you have no time, spend your money and hope your contractor is competent and capable of making the right decisions for you.

  • pinstripe
    Original Author
    12 years ago

    The house and floor are from 1980. We usually get a winter low in the 20s.

    I understood that Ditra is intended to address flex and shifting in the surface underneath the tile. Do cement basement floors flex much? What other issues would the product address / should I be looking at?

  • Floortech
    12 years ago

    You probably do not need it. If it is a basement and there is no movement in the cement, you are more than likely good to go without. open basements, etc that get freezing that crawls under neath the cement causing some minor lifting or flexing and the ditra can do wonders to prevent tile issues.

  • davidro1
    12 years ago

    for membranes, see the following companies' web sites.
    Noble
    Custom Building Products

    Post again after reading up.

  • floorguy
    12 years ago

    If the concrete is cracked now, it may still be moving. and no anti-fracture membrane is going to stop the tile from cracking.

    Over concrete, Schluter Ditra is really overkill.

    There are other products that will work just as well and not as costly.

    You can use Schluter Kerdi, over concrete

    NAC has some stuff too...
    http://www.nacproducts.com/ECB.htm

    Here is a good link for you.
    http://www.tileusa.com/antifracture_mfg.htm

  • sippindoc
    9 years ago

    Ditra is available for ~$1.50/sf from Home Depot; your contractor should be able to get a better rate on that. It should not require much more labor than installing hardibacker on a job that small. I would say your contractor is fluffing their bid.


  • millworkman
    9 years ago

    Ditra may have cost more FOUR years ago..........

  • PRO
    Carpet One Columbia
    9 years ago

    In my opinion, If the cracks are less than 1/8" and no evidence of vertical movement, I would specify a crack isolation mortar (various manufacturers make it). This would not require extra labor to install and no extra time, other than the usual curing times. Instead of spending $125 on mortar, you would spend $250 - $400. Ditra is worth the money if you needed crack isolation, waterproofing, and to meet a certain height requirement to transition other flooring materials. Your contractor is right to recommend something for crack isolation on concrete and there are many good options available and some have been mentioned all ready by others.

  • PRO
    By Any Design Ltd.
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    What do you think, is Ditra worth the money?

    It's a good product but there is much better preforming options with less thin-set restrictions. Why not prepare the floors with Ardex 8+9? The cost is lower and Ardex 8+9 is also rated as a crack isolation membrane where Ditra is not. Ardex 8+9 is waterproof as well without all the banding work Ditra requires.

    ARDEX 8+9: Concrete sub floor

    This is the first coat of Ardex 8+9 over a concrete sunroom floor here in Vancouver. Crack isolation membranes should measure three times the length of the tile. Most crack isolation membranes are between 3'-6'. Since this room will get a 3' wide tile I needed one huge sheet. This is where the cementious memebrane from Ardex excels.

    I also like that there is no voids under the membrane for little silver fish bugs to crawl around in and make homes. I find silver fish a problem in many Vancouver high rise condo's and try and stop them from making new homes on my projects.


    Does your answer change if we install slate rather than porcelain?

    All the more reason to use Ardex or NobleSeal CIS. Both those tile choices will want to see a modified thin-set used.

  • PRO
    Mint tile Minneapolis
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Nice work John,

    How did you prep that slab prior to the 8+9...?

    Before any membrane goes over a slab , in addition to cracks the installer should also be looking for moisture content in the slab and understand if it has a vapor barrier below .
    (in addition to and Unlike Johns Above grade example )

    We do use ditra on occasion but not for any serious crack isolation and never slab below or slab on grade. For cured slabs 30-40 days old min. We prefer true crack isolation membranes and the best thinsets for these applications like a submersible flexible highly modified thinset.