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Hardwood floor buckling?

Posted by CLJP (My Page) on
Wed, Jul 3, 13 at 12:26

I'm not sure if buckling is the right term or not!

Our house was built last summer, from about May til October, so I'm not 100% sure when the flooring would have been installed. The flooring (in the spots that were not damaged from water leaks in our bathroom and kitchen from the dishwasher... but that's another story) was fine throughout the winter, but in about April this year I noticed that in one spot, the floor seemed to be buckling; it looks like the flooring is lifting where two boards meet.

We mentioned it to our builder at the time; and we have mentioned it to the flooring companies service manager when he came to assess the other damage to our floor from the water leaks. Since then, the lifting of the flooring has gotten a lot worse; it's not at every single joint, but there isn't more than 6-8 boards between each spot that is lifting.

The builder says nothing, while the service manager didn't want to admit it was a problem, but said we would maybe look at it later in the summer when the humidity has dropped a bit.

I have read on this forum, and other sites about similar problems. My biggest concern is that the lifting will damage the actual boards; I have noticed in one or two spots that there are little cracks near the edge of some boards. My first thought is that the lifting has caused extra stress on the boards from us walking on it, couches sitting on it, etc.

What kind of damage does lifting like this do to the boards?
Is it really acceptable to have a clients hardwood floor lift like this every summer?

We live in Alberta, Canada; so generally people here have humidifiers (which we do), not dehumidifiers. I know lots of people who have gapping throughout the winter, but ours was tight in the winter, and now buckling in the summer. I have heard people say that seasonal gapping is a much better problem than buckling. The humidity HAS been very high here for the last 5 weeks or so; but I don't think it was high in March/April/May when the problem started.

I guess what I want to know is if we need to be pushing our flooring companies service manager to help us out, because at the moment they sound pretty reluctant. It's heartbreaking to spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a home only to have the flooring look like... uh not very good.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

There's no way to accurately tell what's wrong with your floor without knowing what the moisture levels are. Ideally you should have it tested using a meter with insulated pins that will tell you the moisture level in the top and bottom of each board. The subfloor should also be tested and a thermo hygrometer will give you a reading on the relative humidity in the air.
You're probably referring to cupping where each board takes on a concave shape with the edges being higher than the center. This is generally cause by there being higher moisture in the bottom of the board than in the top.
Buckling is what happens when the entire floor grows and the pressure raises the floor in a section to it looks like a pup tent or a hump.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

In addition to the above, can you tell us what type of hardwood (i.e. solid, engineered) and what type of installation method (i.e. nailed, glued or floated) and what substrate (i.e. suspended wood, suspended concrete, concrete on grade).


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

From your description, I think I was right with buckling. The boards still seem to be flat (each board isn't cupped), but they are lifting like a pup tent/hump. Every couple boards, there is a hump.

The flooring is 3 1/4 inch solid maple. It's nailed.
The flooring is on my main floor, and we have a basement below it; I am going to say it would be suspended wood (engineered joists/beams with 3/4 inch OSB).

I don't know about the moisture; when we had the service manager and he set something on the floor and just said that the humidity in our house was way too high (didn't mention a number). Should we have him back out to test it as you mentioned above?

Attached is a photo of the flooring; as you can see, there is a peak/hump/whatever in the middle of the picture, and the boards on the right and left sides are lower than in the middle.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

I would get him back out as you really need to get the issue resolved not just for the flooring but if you have an ongoing moisture problem you don't want to get mold.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

Another question: Is you floor installed parallel to the floor joists or perpendicular to them?

That is not serious tenting, but the fact that it appears every few boards may mean that the flooring was skip nailed or installed parallel with the joists.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

It's perpendicular to the joists.

When the first hump appeared, I was convinced it was from a joist, but then it started happening all over so I wasn't sure. It's pretty inconsistent; there will be a stretch of about 8 boards with no tenting, then one, another couple boards, a tent, more boards, two tents in a row, etc.

I agree that from what I have seen in pictures, it doesn't look horrible; I am a bit shocked that it's a problem though in our home considering the climate we live in; nobody here has issues with too much humidity, it's the opposite, considering we spend 1/2 our winters in -30 degrees Celsius. We all have humidifiers installed in our homes to keep our floors from gapping too bad in the winter!

I talked with the builders site assistant today, and asked if he has seen this in any of the other houses in the neighborhood that were completed around the same time as ours, or since; and he said he hasn't.

Will this kind of tenting damage the actual floor boards? Is the integrity of the finish and wood destroyed from the extra stress on the boards when they are tented and then walked on all day?

This post was edited by CLJP on Fri, Jul 5, 13 at 2:11


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

I thought hardwood had to be installed on plywood & not OSB.


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RE: Hardwood floor buckling?

It sure does sound like your floor was skip nailed. A professional, or even yourself, with spherical rare earth magnets would be able to determine the nailing schedule that was used. Your description of the pattern of tenting indicates that skip nailing may be the root cause.


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