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Target - Scanning Driver's License

Posted by xminion (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 15, 08 at 13:53

Hello,

DH (who is old enough to remember skate keys), purchased a 6-pack at Target yesterday. The clerk asked for his driver's license, - DH complied.

Next, the clerk picks up the scanner and scans the back of his driver's license!!

Me to clerk: What did you do that for?

Clerk: Now we have his age.......

Me: Why does Target need his age? You can see by looking at his gray hair and his license that he is of drinking age.

Clerk: Sorry if I offended you, this is the policy here...blah, blah, blah.

I am furious! Does anyone know what kind of info is stored in the license these days? A letter to the CEO is going out forthwith


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The same thing happened at a grocery store when buying wine. I'm not sure what it is all about. While I think an over the hill person like me having to show their DL is silly - having it scanned or the number input into the system is something else. That is not necessary.

I'm getting a little tired of having to show a DL when I use a credit card.

I'm not sure what it is all about.


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Showing your drivers license when using a credit card should let you know that the clerk actually cares WHO is using your credit card. It is for your protection.
There are people that actually sign their cards, "please ask for ID", to prevent unauthorized users...
I don't agree with Target scanning a Drivers license for proof of age...


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Costco did this when I went to renew my membership. The clerk asked to see my license and then scanned it WITHOUT asking my permission. Really made me angry. I don't buy alcohol at Costco and they do NOT have the right to 'steal' my personal info without my permission. I got a magnet and rubbed it across the strip so nobody will be able to 'capture' this info without my permission.

Police officers have a right to this info. Sleazy business's who want this info for 'marketing purposes' don't.

How much information are you giving businesses when they scan your license?

12:23 PM CDT on Wednesday, July 16, 2008

WHAS.com

Watch the story

Tell Us: Does the swiping technology alarm you?

(WHAS11) - How much do you know about the businesses you go to? Odds are, you probably don’t know much, but they may know a lot about you.
Watch this story

It’s all because of new technology that allows bars, restaurants, casinos and other entertainment venues to collect your personal information without your knowledge.

WHAS11’s Melanie Kahn was at Fourth Street Live on Thursday night, showing us how businesses are doing this.

It’s called “swiping.”

And it’s all made possible with id scanners. Some that are even small enough to hold in your hand. Many are able to read everything on your driver’s license. Some businesses in Louisville have started using this type of technology recently.

So we found out just how these scanners work and how much information you could be giving to these places without knowing it.

Thousands of people pass through Fourth Street Live every week. On most nights, security guards at the street’s entrance do a visual check of someone’s driver’s license to verify age, but on most Friday and Saturday nights, the method changes.

On these nights, security guards use hand-held scanners.

Melanie Kahn asked the public, “Do you know what information they scanned?” One Fourth Street Live customer said, “I’m sure it’s date of birth, or probably date of birth, heck, I don’t know.”

How about everything that’s on the front of your driver’s license… name, address, birth date, height, weight, hair color, eye color, gender, picture, and in some cases, your signature! It all comes off a strip, called a 2d barcode, on the back of your license. And it only takes one quick swipe to read everything contained in that barcode.

Marc Rotenberg, Executive Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center says, “Of course it’s a privacy problem, because it’s not supposed to be generally available to people.” It’s an issue Rotenberg has been fighting for years.

Rotenberg says, “What’s beginning to happen is that the bars are actually taking the license from the person, swiping them through a card reader then, collecting the information that’s on the card; that shouldn’t happen.”

But the businesses that use and sell this technology disagree. They all highlight the benefits of security, accuracy, speed, and in some cases, the ability to catch criminals who have stolen someone’s identity.

Although officials at Fourth Street Live didn’t want to speak to us on-camera about their scanners, they did email us this statement, “The information captured by the scanner is used internally to evaluate the effectiveness of our marketing efforts.” Which means, they are storing the information they are scanning.

But Fourth Street Live isn’t the only place using this type of technology. Thornton’s Gas Station also uses id scanners when people buy cigarettes, alcohol, or any other age restricted items. But they only use the scanners to verify age.

Tony Harris, Thornton’s Vice-President of Operations says, “In our case, it’s simple speed of service, so we’re not storing any information about the consumer.”

So how do customers feel about all this?

Beth Dougins, another Fourth Street Live customer says, “They’re just doing their job.”

According to the Driver’s Privacy Protection Act, it is perfectly legal for bars to scan, extract and store information from people’s licenses; Just as long as the business doesn’t sell any of that information.

Marc Rotenberg says, “The more information others have about you, the easier it is for them to impersonate you and so one of the things we say from a privacy perspective is that’s it better to limit who has access to this personal information.”

Both Fourth Street Live and Thornton’s say that a customer does have the right to ask not to have their id scanned. In those cases the security guard or sales associate will do a visual check to verify age.

A link that might be useful:

www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/071608k
vuescammers-eh.5f8d6b95.html


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While I think scanning a driver's license is a bit overboard when asked for proof of age, I can understand it. The cashier can either 1) write down the birthdate listed on your DL or 2) scan the DL and get the info. Corporate types probably like 2) because there are fewer errors involved. But one way or the other, the store will get that info because they are required to ask for age. Scanning documents the store asked and got age information.


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Thanks for the head's up about Costco, dreamgarden, and the link. DH and I were completely taken by surprise by the Target clerk.

I am wondering if a piece of tape across the magnetic strip will "deactivate" the strip without ruining it.....


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xminion-"I am wondering if a piece of tape across the magnetic strip will "deactivate" the strip without ruining it....."

I don't know, but be careful to keep magnets away from any other cards you have if you go to the bother of trying to deactivate the one on the license. I accidently deactivated my ATM card once doing this!

Two more tips.

1) Make sure the magnetic strips from your cards don't touch each other. Turn them so they all face the same direction.

2) There is a bar code on the front of your license. Some business's (that don't have a skimmer) like to use a handheld scanner to 'capture' the info on this bar code. I got around this by cutting out the bar code from a Lean Cuisine dinner and taping this over the one on the license. I don't know what comes up on their scanner, but it ISN'T going to be my personal info for their marketing efforts....!

I also don't appreciate being asked for my zip code, phone no., etc in front of other strangers/customers. Thats why I use cash whenever possible. If the cashier is pushy, I give them a fake number or tell them to use their own. Sometimes its fun to give them their own zip code/telephone number or make one up. I don't get paid when they sell my info, so they shouldn't be able to profit from the sale of legit info without the consumer's consent.


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I live in an urban area that is 90 percent plus minority and it is pretty much a given that you present a state id or DL to the clerk to verify who you are because of alot scamming by illegal immigrants and other dishonest people. This is to combat CC & Debit card fraud, check bouncing etc.

But scanning an ID in - there is something very insidious about that. If clerk said that was policy I would refuse to comply and if that was a problem go elsewhere. Now, this is not a problem for me since there are so many choices for shopping. Where I see this as a problem is folks who live in rural areas and have only limited shopping options like Walmart or Target and this sort of policy becomes standard.

PS - Dreamgarden I really like your idea of placing a barcode over your DL to fool them. Just remember to peel it off if you get stopped by an officer - lol.


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I'm no law officer but I believe defacing your DL is illegal so I'm not sure I would go that far.

I don't know where you live but different states have different policies when it comes to buying alcohol. I mean there are more restriction than just age. In my old state in order to purchase alcohol at a bar you had to have a state issued ID and $5 in cash otherwise you were considered a vagrant and it was illegal to sell alcohol to a vagrant (?). In some states you have to do more than just look old enough. I've seen them take driver's licenses from people entering bars and restaurants when the person looked too young. By keeping the DL at the front desk they were assured that you wouldn't hide it when the police came in looking for underage drinkers. All the doorman had to do was say - "this is the license they presented to enter, it shows that they are old enough." So Target may have a policy that is in place to protect the store in case they ever get busted for selling beer to minors. Offering a fake state ID is a major crime, as is selling alcohol to minors. Everyone is just trying to protect themselves from lawsuits.


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when a store asks me for my personal info i just say NO!. i don't want anymore junk mail. they never argue with me.

thanks for the heads up on scanning the cards, i would not like that.


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Yes, I suppose showing an ID with a credit card would help to make sure they have the correct ID. I had in mind the time I was using a card that is in my name, husband was carrying it, and I didn't have my purse. They would not accept his DL as ID. I finally told them I wouldn't walk to my car in the heat to get my DL if they gave me the item I was buying. they decided that it would be OK.

I don't think it is a matter of caring - it is just a policy of some stores. It isn't standard practice and I'm thinking if it were really that good a tool, all stores would use it. Wal Mart has never asked for DL, only zip code.


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I find it outrageous! I Was in Target tonight, but didn't buy booze. Thanks for the warning. I also absolutely refuse to give out my phone #, name, address, etc. to store clerks in public. I simply say, I don't give that out. The only store which is the worse and creates a scene is Chico's. I always pay cash and they refuse to put my order through, have to call the manager, state that the register won't make the sale unless they put in a phone # and last name. I simply wait for the manager to come, put her key in the stupid machine and ring up my order. It holds up the line, and I tell them I am paying cash and its no one's business what my name is. Horrible policy and the clerks are worse. They do the same thing when you return something. I also refuse.

What amazes me is how people line up like puppets giving out their private information in public. I stand on line as they spell out their last names, give their phone #'s, zip codes. I could be standing there jotting it all down. But the majority of people just do it as a normal part of paying for something.

Try saying no...


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Wal Mart has never asked for DL, only zip code.

After 5 years of paying by check at Wal Mart, I had to show my DL - fine, but then the clerk asked for my phone #. I refused and of course, it caused a hullabaloo. One of the managers told me to give them "just any" phone number, which I did - rediculous, right? I was told it was the BANK'S policy to ask for phone number. That policy was soon dropped.

Deja vu - I think I posted about this scenario 'way back when.

Scanning is completely out of the question!!!!


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If it's a bar code that they're scanning, running a magnet over it isn't going to stop them from being able to read it. Bar code scanners read a printed pattern.

Heck, if you print a coupon off of the web it can be scanned, and you know that's printed on ordinary paper. Ditto the bar code on a can of soup or a box of cereal at the grocery store. There's nothing for a magnet to hit.


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There's still a lot of driver's license fraud out there. And not just by teenagers anymore. Remember how some of the Sept. 11 terrorists got their ID cards to get on the planes? They scammed Virginia's DMV.

I think that if Target is scanning booze customers, it's a lawsuit preventative. If they asked for the IDs only of people who look like teenagers, they would be sued for age discrimination, for targeting people on the basis of what they look like (like airport security people who have been accused of pulling aside people who look like they're from the Middle East or are wearing headclothes and burkas.)

Actually, if you think you have any privacy left in this world anymore, you are wrong. Government officials and businesses have had your number for many years--we're just now starting to find out just WHAT they know. They know what library books you take out, which DVDs you rent at Blockbuster, how many cans of infant formula you buy a month (there's a huge black market for those, you know).

What we should be upset about, IMHO, is the security weakness of some of these computer systems that are out there. That huge break-in on the Marshalls/TJMaxx/Homegoods/whatever else that company owns was horrendous; I know it screwed up my credit-card account, and I had to get a new account number.

(PS: When I'm paying for something by cash--I don't buy beer or alcohol, tho--I never give out personal information. The clerk usually looks at me like I'm his/her mother who just gave a good scolding--altho I'm polite when I do it, and I'm only in my mid-40s! KMart, I think, asks for Zip codes or phone numbers, clearly just for marketing purposes. I make up the numbers on the spot.)


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I never let a clerk or anyone else (except for a cop) hold my DL. If I am asked for it I hold it up by the edges so they can see the whole thing and there would be no way they could scan it before I knew what was happening.

I also don't give out my phone number. When asked I simply say, "No thank you" If they press I just keep saying "No thank you" with a smile. I'm always stunned that people are so willing to give away their personal information.


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it might be ilegal to ask for extra id when using a credit card. double check with the card company not the bank.

scanning a drivers license for your age means they are compiling information about you for telemarketing purposes. none of this has anything to do with verifying who you are.

everyone is insured and they don't care about id theft because all the companies involved carry insurance but not for your protection only for theirs which is why no one cares to stop you from sufferring.

if they really want to verify you they will take fingerprints.

it is about companies making more money.


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sovra-"If it's a bar code that they're scanning, running a magnet over it isn't going to stop them from being able to read it. Bar code scanners read a printed pattern."

Yeah, and the bar code scanner that reads my bar code will see what Lean Cuisine dinner I enjoyed the other night. If the police need to read the magnetic strip then they can enter the information manually since the strip no longer 'works'. They can even have my fingerprints while they are at it! After all, they are a government agency. I feel that bar help, cashiers and other similarly employed individuals should not be allowed to have access to information as personal as the following:

Name
Address
Second Address
Date of Birth
Height
Weight
Sex
Eye Color
Hair Color
Organ Donor Info
Medical Indicators
Electronic Image of Your Signature
Your Electronic Photo Image (KY)
Digital Fingerprints (DC, GA, HI)
Facial Recognition Template (TN)

A journalist tried to interview the CEO of two companies that make the scanning devices/software. When the CEO saw the following questions, he refused to answer them:

How do your machines verify driver's licenses?
Who owns the driver's license database?
What information is accessed? What information is recorded?
Where is your datacenter located?
Is there any evidence that suggests that the introduction of license scanners has reduced underage drinking?

WHY he didn't want to answer these questions? He wants to make money selling OTHER people's personal info? Well I think someone should scan HIS driver's license and see what he has to hide...

Links that might be useful:

About Driver's License Data Encoding Techniques and Driver's License Swiping:
www.we-swipe.us/research.html#info

Leaving Your Identity at the Bar
www.miller-mccune.com/article/leaving-your-identity-at-the-bar


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A friend of mine banks of Bank of America, where the teller gave away $12000 of her money to a woman with a fake id. Be glad the guy scanned the license.


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This is similar to scanning an ID. I was resently going to purchase a 12 pack, the clerk asked for my ID and I complied. She then placed my license on the counter, grabbed her half full notepad and began writing down my personal information. Being smart I snatched my ID, returned the beer and went on my way. Many people would think she was going to sell my DLN, or SS number over the black market. This is possible, but i'm pretty sure this is a way for police to make money by catching, or revoking anyone on proabtion who is not allowed to purchase alcohol.(not fair to average civillian) I am not sure if this is legal but who's right when police are involved. I am going to place an identity theft report but i'm sure they are aware of the situation. My point being never give anyone more information than they need unless you really just dont care!


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To gitananoel: I doubt it's illegal to ask for additional information for credit-card purchases, but I did read once that it probably violates the merchant's contract with the crdit-card company. The general rule is that if you present a credit card that is not on the stolen list, and you sign the receipt, and your signature matches the one that was already on the back of the credit card, that should be enough.

The reason that retailers who sell alcohol scan driver's licenses is probably that someone, somewhere, is willing to pay them for the information they obtain thereby. These people are called "consolidators," and they are in the business of buying all the information they can about business transactions so that they can build up files on people, which they can then sell to anyone willing to pay for them.

Scanning a driver's license provides particularly valuable information, because it offers a verifiable way to tie a credit-card number to a name and street address--information that I do not think banks are eager to divulge about their customers. So now now only does Target know exactly who you are every time you use your credit card, but anyone else who wants to pay for the information also knows what brand of liquor you like, how much you're willing to pay for it, and so on.


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The main purpose for scanning a license or ID is to verify it is not a fake ID. Many states require this, especially for liquor purveyors caught selling to minors. No need to be paranoid. The information found on most peoples' licenses is readily available elsewhere. If you still have your SS# for a license number, though, you should obtain an alternate number right away.
If you disable the magnetic strip or barcode, your ID is invalid and could be refused.
An unsigned credit card, or one marked "ask for ID" is not valid and should be rejected. The card must already be signed when presented. Some places will compare the signature to the one on your ID. This protects the credit provider and the merchant - not the consumer as someone stated - as consumers are not liable for fraudulent charges.


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I always carry a passport with me and use that for ID instead of a drivers' license. Also, if I suddenly find myself in a foreign country, I can get back more easily.


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>>So now now only does Target know exactly who you are every time you use your credit card, but anyone else who wants to pay for the information also knows what brand of liquor you like, how much you're willing to pay for it, and so on.>>

Any frequent shopping program, every credit card company, and even local charities and hospitals, has access to an amazing amount of data on you. Even Google or Yahoo has records of where you shop, what you look at on the Net, that can be analyzed to actually ID you personally - this has been proven several times in recent years.

It's why, if you want your children or grandchildren to be employed, suggest they go into statistical data analysis. Math combined with information technology is where the growth in the tech industry is happening.


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Whenever I am asked for ID or last four digits of cr card number, I just hold the card in my hand while I show it to the cashier. That way they can see what they want to see, but I have the control over the card. They sometimes get confused as to why I dont just hand it to them, in which case I can explain that "you just need to see the information, you dont need to take it".

DH gets carded at alcohol stores - and I am not. He looks older and mature than I am, and they card him whether or not I am with him. But he gets very upset when they try to enter the DOB and license number into their computer - that's where he draws the line.

Another thing I had the other day - customer service person wanted to take my address, email and whole lot of other information BEFORE she even started to ask me what the problem with my printer was. I said, "ma'am, if you need to ship some part to me, I will give you my address, but at this point you dont even know what my problem is and what the resolution will be. Why do you need my address now? My home address has no affect on whether the printer works properly or not." She had to give up.


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Scanning the driver's license proves that the clerk asked for ID for every purchase of alcohol. Having worked in a convenience store, I can tell you that state authorities get mighty testy about selling booze to minors. They are apt to fine the store, and the employee, and likely the employee will be fired. (My predecessor resigned)

It would be age discrimination to ask for "everyone who looks under 30" so just scan an id for every alcohol purchase.

This is going to be especially prevalent at stores that employ young-ish, inexperienced people, likely holding their first jobs. (I remember when everyone over 30 was "old".)

I was at the hospital for a biopsy, and was weighed before getting on the table. I asked why, since my weight had nothing to do with this condition. Nurse said,"the table is sensitive and not suitable for anyone over 250 pounds, so we have to weigh every single patient." I'm not even close, BTW, at 5'5" and a tad over half the maximum. But to avoid discrimination complaints, every single patient is weighed. A computer printout sign in the operating room reminded the staff to weigh every patient.

discrimination = bad.


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Original poster - trying to see if you are still having same issue with Target or any other store.
I was at Target a week ago, used credit card, never was asked for any additional information or documents.

Went to Food Lion, they had wine on sale, - I bought three bottles of wine and some food items, -- never asked for ID. I am 5'3" and even friends and co-workers cannot guess my age -- I never answer when they ask


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Jollrd,

Yes - Super Target still scans a DL for booze purchases. However, they are not instructing their teen-age 'managers' on the reason why. They all have the line "it's store policy." When I find myself in the unfortunate position of purchasing booze there, I just immediately ask to speak to a supervisor who overrides the register somehow.

In contrast, why doesn't my local chain grocery store ask me for a DL? Are they not bound by the same laws that prohibits sales to minors? ANYBODY KNOW?


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There is absolutely no reason to scan a driver's license when purchasing restricted items. If the company trusts their cashiers so little, that they need to scan my license to verify my age, I will take my business elsewhere. There is *no* need for it at all. I refuse to do it when I go to stores.

Note that it is against the cardholder's agreement for cashiers/stores to ask for your ID when using your card, and it is also against the cardholder's agreement to put "SEE ID" on the back of your card..technically speaking, the card is only valid if it is signed.

It gets old when people keep asking for an ID with a credit card purchase. It's a hassle. And also note that most credit card fraud is not done at that point of purchase but through the internet, phishing scams, etc.


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Isn't it silly, when you think about it, that you can go into a restaurant with a group and pay $200/person for a fine meal, and sign the credit receipt without having to show any ID - but for a $20 purchase at the drugstore, it's required to show the driver's license? More than just unnecessary and contradicting the merchant/credit card company agreement, it's ridiculous as well, LOL.


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Scanning for the booze, I would understand, strongly disagree, but I bought alli, the weight loss medicine. Is there anybody else that this happen to and why would they do that.


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Because alli can be very dangerous and they don't want minors getting it.


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I work for target...all I know is the cashiers have no control over the scanning of ids...I cashier every so often and can tell you that most cashiers probably have no idea why why an id may need to be swiped..its not every transaction but every once in a while the thing will just prompt us to ask for id and we have to swipe it to complete the transaction...same thing for alcohol purchases...the register will prompt us to enter a date of birth...it'd not the cashiers fault their just following direction..its the company s policy...


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Question: if you pay with cash, do you still swipe the ID card?

I'm paying cash and never buying booze at Target!


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Hi gang,

OP here. The experiment at Target went thusly today....

The six pack of beer gets rung up by the clerk. Before proceeding any further the clerk says:

Clerk: I need your driver's license.

Me: I don't have it. You can see what my age is roughly and it's over 21.

Clerk: I'll have to get the supervisor.

Me: Okay

Supervisor: I need your ID.

Me: No

Supervisor: Yes

Me: No

Supervisor: It's a policy that we don't budge on here (!)

Me: Keep the beer then.

In the past, the supervisor has overided the computer when it asks for driver's license information.

You guys will be kept informed as to what (if anything) the CEO has to say about his store policy.


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Not giving them any id is certainly not the same as not allowing them to scan your id. What you've done is a different experiment. It is well within their rights to refuse to sell alcohol to someone who won't produce id, regardless of their apparent age.

As to credit cards, it is true that putting 'See ID' is a violation of your agreement. I sign the card and write 'see id' next to my signature. They check my id about 1/4 of the time.

See below for an amusing tale of just how far you can go with signatures that bare no resemblance to your credit card.

Here is a link that might be useful: Credit Card Signature Prank


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Re: Target and scanning DLs, I say another reason to NOT shop at Target..


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You RISK losing your identity if you shop at Target because of this, just like Sony recently lost so much of their sensitive customer data after they stored it. Do NOT shop at Target if you want to protect your information from identity thieves!


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I do understand the issue about minors buying alcohol. We should be so stringent about mentally ill people who petition to get their guns back (recent NYTimes article), ironically.

If you don't want your credit card or DL scanned by a hand-held or remote device, get an RFID blocker. They come in card cases and wallets, as well as passport holders. They're inexpensive and they work. Oh yeah, and I bought them at amazon.com where I never have to show ID for anything, LOL.


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I asked at one the stores where I shop and they said if a driver's license is scanned it is only for the date of birth, that is the only info they are allowed to pick up. I would never allow my credit card to be scanned unless I was making a purchase. That used to be against the law. You only need one form of ID.


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I totally agree with MacT and its why I've been refusing to let anyone scan my DL which you are allowed to do! Just insist! Read this which I posted somewhere else just to help out:

"Hi, I just found your post because I just got home from Target and figured for once I'd google and see if anyone else had this problem. I'm posting this just to tell you a few things you can do. I periodically jump into target to do my shopping because its right next to my house. On the occasion I do that and grab a bottle of wine they always ask for my license, The first time over a year ago, she took it and swiped, I asked her right away, why cant you just look at it and see I'm WAY old enough?? She couldnt answer. Well as an experiment I went back the next week and did the same thing, only this time when she asked for my license, I said you can look at it but you may not swipe it. She said I have to, I said NO you dont. All you need to do is verify my age, and in over 20 years that used to be done with your eyes,m NOT a computer scanner. She called over the manager, and to my surprise, the manager keyed something in, and she politely gave me back my license. THere was some sort of note the pc generated on my receipt. Apparently you CAN refuse to let them scan, just insist. You need not put your items back on the shelf. I just did it again today, and of course there are people behind who sigh, because I am stubborn about not letting htem HARVEST my information off scanning my id. But I assured them, one day you'll thank me:) SO, let them check your id, and dont let them scan it. Make them call someone over.

This happens alot more than you think, thats why they have a special code they punch in. Its an infringement of privacy and not necessary.
Have a great weekend!
Niki"


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