Home Equity Loan/2nd Mortgage???
MaryAnn_AL
19 years ago
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Combining first mortgage with home equity loan
Comments (5)Your situation is special because it sounds as if you're going to be paying off whatever loan(s) you have soon, when you sell the house. So, looking at your overall costs, the fees and expenses associated with a loan may be more significant in the overall cost of the money than the interest rate. So, whatever option you choose, be very careful to inquire about fees. Your payment will be lower if you combine all your debt into a new first mortgage, and your interest rate on a new first mortgage will also be lower than on a second. The issue of taking out savings versus borrowing to do these repairs is somewhat personal and somewhat hard numbers. Obviously if you're getting a better return on your investments than you'll pay in interest on borrowed money, leave your savings alone and borrow. Most people are in more of a gray area, with investments that pay about the same, or a little less, than they'll pay out for borrowed money. In this case I would still lean toward suggesting that you borrow rather than deplete savings. There is a lot of freedom and flexibility to having cash available when/if you really need it. One other question I would ask is, are you sure you need to spend this kind of money to ready your home for sale? If you have not done so, I'd suggest checking with a realtor. Sometimes you spend money to renovate, and then the buyer wants something different and rips it all out to do something else. It might make more sense to discount the price of the home and let the buyer make his/her own upgrades. That would save you a lot of hassle and possibly result in netting more money in your pocket on the home....See MoreMortgage and Home Equity on a new house
Comments (4)Are we getting the horse a bit back of the cart, here, possibly? Have you bought your house yet? I assume not, in that you don't have mortgage set up, it appears. I'm not familiar with the housing situation generally, and certainly not with what's going on in your area, but the housing situation in many parts of the U.S. is in a real mess. Many bought several years ago, with small equity, and paying something like 1.5% interest directly at the time, but the actual amount being charged was much higher, say, 6% ...with the extra being added to the principal owing! The contract specifying that the rates were to be renegotiated after a certain number of years. When the amount that the mortgagees actually needed to pay became apparent on renegotiation ... the people couldn't pay it. So the house went on the market. Along with thousands of others in the same boat. Those (what many of us would call "spurious") mortgages were peddled over wide areas. Including to a Canadian bank in which I've held shares for 41 years, during which time share price advanced from $4.20 to about $106. and change, last May. Unfortunately, it seems that my bank had also backed an insurance company that had underwritten many of those lousy mortgages. As you know, North American stock markets are down a substantial amount during the last few months - but nothing like more than 40%! You can understand my feeling that I'd more or less like to use those guys who dreamed up that shady way of doing business as targets at a shooting range? The speed at which the Fed began freeing up money when this problem surfaced a while ago, and has moved on it again since, including today, in concert with the Canadian central bank, and some European ones the same, leads me to think that there's a lot more trouble yet to appear in the housing crisis in the U.S. Remember the Savings and Loan crisis of something like 30 years ago? Some are opining that this may turn out to be worse. If I were you, and it's at all convenient, I think that I'd be sitting on my money for a while. By the time house prices get down about as low as they may be about to go ... ... perhaps you'll have had the opportunity to have saved most of that $30,000. shortage, especially if you go into fairly heavy-duty savings mode in the meantime ... ... in which case - perhaps your problem may well have disappeared. Maybe more than disappeared ... for possibly the house you want may have had its price dropped by that $30,000. ... possibly more? And you may well have more than the "extra" $30,000. on hand ... ... Hey! maybe you can have enough extra down payment to be able to avoid mortgage insurance! The loss in value of that stock of mine since last May is about half of the amount that you're short. But I've held it for 41 years, so I guess I'm more or less too much attached to it to sell it now (and this is not the time to sell it, in any case - might be time to buy more). Just some food for thought. My daughter's wanting to buy housing in the Phoenix area. I've been suggesting to her for months that she keep her money in her jeans for a while. She made an offer last year, there was $5,000. difference, with neither stubbornly willing to spring for the diff. Within a few months, after she returned to her former location in Toronto ... ... she told me that a re-valuation of the premises had come in ... ... at $20,000. lower. Now she's back in Scottsdale, keeping her eye on the situation. Maybe even both eyes, on occasion? Sitting on her money ... still (I hope). I hope that you're having a great old week, at your "house" - (wherever that may be, at the moment!). ole joyful P.S. I'm not as upset as it sounds - when dealing with much of business in general, and the stock market, in particular, if one were to sweat the small stuff (or take a short-term view) ... ... one would have one's fingernails chewed down to bleeding, a good share of the time. Closing on age 80, very thankful to be enjoying good health, with only a small portion of needed health care payable directly, and fairly sure that I have sufficient assets to carry me through the remaining days of life ... ... with some residue for charities and offspring ... ... I'm a happy man! o j P.P.S. For many families, buying their home is the largest contract that they ever make. I strongly suggest that you make it your business to investigate the current housing crisis in the U.S. thoroughly, up, down and sideways, during the coming months, including prospects in your area. There may be a hurricane approaching. o j...See Morehome equity loan or take from portfolio?
Comments (4)Hi Len VT, If you've been holding your stocks for an extended period, you'll likely have a substantial capital gain built up and if you liquidate investments you'll have capital gain tax to pay, which will mean that you'll have to liquidate a larger amount of pre-tax asset value in order to have the after-tax amount needed for your renovation. Not only that, you'll have to pay commission to sell them and, after the house loan is paid off, commission again to re-purchase, supposing that you'd choose to buy the same stocks later. Not only that, I think that the markets are down now, so I'd rather not liquidate some of my stock market-based assets, these days, lacking serious need. In fact, I've been buying more, recently, and expect to buy more, later, as I expect an advance in the markets, though I think that it may be later than jkom51 thinks. I hear some folks telling of set-up costs related to a home equity line of credit, which is understandable, as a lender wants to be sure that the property is as claimed, is properly evaluated, lacks large loans against it now, etc. I have used stock certificates and mutual fund certificates as collateral for a line of credit, and had no set-up fees to pay. If you were to use stocks or mutual funds, you might qualify for a lower interest rate, in that liquidation would be much easier, in case of default. Also, I've allowed my line to sit unused for substantial periods, and there have been no inactivity fees, either. In fact, in that you have much larger assets than you'd need to liquidate to fund your upgrade, you might choose to take out a larger loan and make some increased equity investments currently. I understand that the interest rate on your home improvement loan would be deductible, but not being a resident of your country I'm not sure. If it is not, you'd want to keep the two loans separate, as the line of credit for further equity investment would be deductible in your area, I'm almost positive. While interest rates currently are low, I expect to see them rise, for when one considers the bad odour internationally that has developed in recent months over the U.S. sub-prime mortgage debacle, and the huge U.S. gov't. debt, much of it held abroad, it could well be that, in the light of the deficits developed recently, largely due to the Iraq war, it may be necessary for the U.S. gov't. to offer higher rates to foreign holders in order to entice them to make further loans, before long. Good wishes as you consider your options further - I hope that you are happy with your choices, later. ole joyful...See MoreWhat to do inherited second home w/ mortgage and equity loan?
Comments (11)I don't think you need to do anything right now. If the house sells at a satisfactory price, then both the first mortgage and the equity loan balance will be paid off at the closing, and the balance (minus agent's commission, if your using one) will go to you. You definitely should NOT pay off the loan with your savings. That cash provides you with financial flexbility that you will lose if you pay off the loan. A recent widow should hang on to her cash reserves until life settles down and her financial situation becomes more certain. If the equity loan is a HELOC with a floating interest rate and the house doesn't sell by the end of the summer season, you probably should do a refinance and combine both loans into one so that you don't have to worry about the possibility of rising interest rates inflating the size of the HELOC payments....See Morejoyfulguy
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