This has discussion has a lot of great information. I'm not sure if everyone's questions have been answered but we have a very in depth article on our site regarding the difference between the Delta 17 and 17T series trim kits. It gets pretty heavy into the details. Others above have given a pretty good explanations in this discussion but I think some aspects may still be a little unclear. Here's a summary of the differences detailed in our article. 1) Water pressure: 17 Series cartridges operate using pressure balancing techniques as opposed to actually sensing temperature. This means that water pressure from a 17 Series trim will be less than a 17T Series. 2) Temperature limit stop: If you live in an area where seasonal temperature differences are greater, you may have to adjust the temperature limit stop in your 17 series shower periodically. You will never need to do this with a 17T series. 3) Accuracy: 17T keeps the temperature in a tighter range. If you adjust the temperature handle more often the 17T will give you more predictable results with less fiddling around required to get exactly the temperature you want. 4) Shower systems with multiple spray outlets: In the case of a shower system you will require more water pressure and a 17T will be better. You will also get better pressure from a standard showerhead with a 17T. These are some of the reasons the price is higher. For more info check out our article: https://faucetlist.com/blogs/buying-guides/delta-thermostatic-shower-faucet-trim-kit-cartridges-monitor-17-series-vs-17t-series-tempassure read the guide

Hi, I don't disagree about the surcharge - but I don't want to have to pay it! Our bill is largely "delivery" as well as is our natural gas bill and I have the heat pumping. And we were one of the 10,000 Toronto residents who were selected for the smart meter trial program so while other people were burning every light in their homes and using every appliance at normal rates we were charged the variable rates. I don't think anyone should have had to pay the smart meter rates until everyone did. Same with the garbage bins - once again we were the first to receive them in Toronto - so were restricted as to what we could put out - whereas people on the other side of Yonge St. were putting out half of their house contents it often seemed (and no, we don't put out that much - but still). Then of course both of us have been called for jury duty - last time for me it was for a 4 month first degree murder trial. I know a lot of people who have never been called - and others who have gotten out of it for the most stupid of reasons. So I figure with just the two of us we are paying our share. Then there is the couple with hardly any health issues that can be treated who must pay for everyone elses' 12 prescriptions (the average - no kidding). Funny you should mention electricity though. You may have heard on the news just the other night that it is expect that hydro bills will go up 33% over the next 2 - 3 years. Apparently people are going to be allowed to purchase energy efficient windows and pay for them via their hydro bills - they sure had better be paying for ALL of their own windows - and what happens if they sell? More money for the real estate lawyer for sure. A disaster waiting to happen, I can see it now. I don't know what I am going to do next election - I am somewhat of an independent although there is one party I will absolutely never vote for - and the one I would have voted for has a leader that will cost them the election. Then of course there will be the Toronto elections - particularly for the mayor. I do have a candidate in mind unless he/she is endorsed by our ward Councillor and then it will be back to the drawing board. Re groceries I can't believe how much cheaper dairy is in the U.S. and meat. I read on this forum how much (little) people are paying for dairy and meat and I can't believe it. Of course, the dog gets only the best....And I did buy a $50 million Lotto max ticket for this week - I do not expect to win. Great that they tracked that woman down who won and had lost her ticket. It is a very good thing that she paid via her credit card and was the only person who had a cc purchase of $16 that day. I would be really ticked off to have 6 numbers but not the bonus for the 7th and only receive $115,000. But someone has to win, so why not me (or my dog, who might share). Should I win tomorrow night it will be a very long weekend waiting for 9:00 a.m. Mon. morning. I would have our banker come and take the deposit at the lotto office. A woman who won $12 million several years ago did exactly that. She told her bank that if they wanted the money to come and get it. They made the right decision. Oh, to be in that position.

Hi, Thanks for asking. Not much has changed, things have escalated a bit more at times. Different triggers, same story. SS continues getting deposits made directly into his bank account several times a month from DH in addition to his wages, but no helping with bills or house or cleaning. He does however go on long fishing/shopping trips and has one of his two girlfriends spend the night here (in the room with him & GS) 3+ nights a week. DH asked me why I had such a bug up my **s about it. I feel it is inappropriate on so many levels. I believe DH enables SS to continue living a life making poor decisions that have effects not only on him but his child and everyone around him. BUT, that is not my cross to carry and I cannot make him stop. Anyway, I am actively looking for a place, with a short term lease 6 months for this reason, I really don't know if our relationship is salvedgable any longer and if it isn't I will not stay in this geographical area. Dh knows I am moving out asap, seems to be ok with it though he did say that the money I spend on rent could be used to fix up our rehab house. I said "Yes, that is true, it could." And continue with my plans. Work has all but stopped on the house as DH is back into his workaholic thing and that is that. No real surpises. I love him, I do but honestly there is no room for me in this marriage. I expect I will end up signing the house over and walking. I don't expect things to get nasty, or least as long as I do everything in my power to not say anything that may remotely make SS uncomfortable in anyway- like "could you do your dishes?" or "I'll need to use my washer and dryer tonight, can you make sure it's availabe?" you know stuff like that. Then things will be ok. I was very ill with flu all week and must say DH was very good about stopping at store for me and getting my medications filled, popsicles, water and the like almost daily. He is a very good caretaker. Too bad there just isn't any way to make our marriage a priority that comes first. But I'm just tired of it all now and have no energy left to fight for it anymore. I think the parting will be peaceful, painful in some ways as I am already so lonely and alone much of the time and grieving the time spent waiting for "someday". Sometimes someday just doesn't happen. It's not a realistic hope anymore and I have to let it go for my own health and peace of mind. ~Cat

Summary as I got it: Moving to country cottage; mortgage 10 years to go 85 sq.ft. in an "L" shape layout, going to a J shape layout. Walls 10 ft high. Have black granite sink. Have black tile countertop tiles "on-hand" Staying with white appliances in a small kitchen. Have white dishwasher. Have white fridge, two years old. -- Goals ordered sequentially 1st: New heat in floor. Concrete slab. Sheet Membrane over slab, to help heat retention (more in tiles, less into concrete). Pipes/Cables, thinset, porcelain PEI 5 quality. Frugal, sensible, high quality, lower cost of operation with a membrane between concrete and cables. Any membrane. 2nd: White microwave range hood - $150 Lagan (Ikea) http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90152027 3rd: White under counter convection oven - $200 Mumsig from Ikea. http://www.ikea.com/us/en/search/?query=mumsig This price appears to be an error. $200 is too low. Ikea's double oven costs $1500. Using Ikea's internet shopping you may be able to order for this price. I just clicked on "Add to shopping list" and it proceeded. For comparison, Ikea.ca has these at $899 Canadian and their dollar is at 95 cents. see for yourself: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70110496 $200 in US http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/70110496 $900 in Canada http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60110492 $200 in US http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/products/60110492 $900 in Canada 4th: Built-in induction cook top ($1700) -- OR -- Free standing induction stove/convection oven ($2700) w/warming drawer -- OR -- Portable induction cooktop ($170) Budget permitting -- 5th: Sell tiles and get Ikea VÄRDE Countertop -- $200 -- OR -- Install tiles (thinset, grout, sponges etc.) -- $200 --- the above is how I would proceed. Your taste will vary. hth David p.s. floor membrane http://www.noblecompany.com/ http://www.noblecompany.com/Products/SheetMembranes/tabid/58/Default.aspx http://www.custombuildingproducts.com http://www.custombuildingproducts.com/ProductCatalog/SurfacePrep/WaterproofingAntiFractureMembranes/?user=pro〈=en There are many other manufacturers of membranes.