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monthly mortgage payment??

rosalynd
18 years ago

Hi all,

Not too be nosey.....what are the average people in average homes paying for mortgages? Is that price including your property tax/hazard ins? It seems to me that the sky high cost of housing is really driving people to go "house poor" and while they are "making it" now it is a matter of time before it catches up to them. I live in MA and the prices here are through the roof, they are stabilizing now but still much higher than they should be, IMO.

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  • qdognj
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    present home 2800 per month, including property tax (10k per year)
    Next month moving to new home,4400 per month, inlcuding property tax(13k per year)

    present home have 75% equity
    new home 50%+-
    amazing the differences in home prices and property taxes across this wonderful country :)

  • peacensunshine
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I'm so glad to hear it qdog!!

    I was feeling insane for my 2800!!

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    17 years ago
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    17 years ago
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  • jasper_60103
    17 years ago
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  • celticmoon
    17 years ago
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    Wild, huh?

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    -*and* after 10 years payments, you still owe 95.7% of the original amount!

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  • chad741
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Well it sounds to me like some people here just get a little jealous of other people that can afford more than they can. All most people are saying is how much there payment is, but not how much they make, so if someone is making $200,000 a year, they can obviously afford quite a bit bigger mortgage than someone making only $50,000 a year.

  • chelone
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Maybe not, though. $200k puts one in vastly different category than does $50k. And nowhere in your statement have you mentioned "other" debt. Someone with a fat income may be mired in lots of "other" debt, making the solvent one with 50k better able to "afford" their mortgage.

    I harbor no envy for people who earn more money than I do. We have everything we need and we live comfortably; my take on THEIR payments? if they're comfortable with them, then why would I care a fig how much they pay?

    ;)

  • celticmoon
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    ...Well it sounds to me like some people here just get a little jealous of other people that can afford more than they can.

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    People are different. Makes things interesting is all.

  • msjam2
    17 years ago
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  • jakabedy
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • rockyn
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • cathie54
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Sorry for such long post! (I don't know how to be short! I should write books! haha!)

    This is a very long & informative thread. Sorry I cannot address anyone in peticular.

    I am one of those who financed 100% mortgage.

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    Never know from day to day if the owner is selling house and once sold you have 30 days notice to move.

    Knowing that ANY day you can receive a rent incease notice in your mail.

    The last rental (which we rented for eight years) was the worst out of 30 years of renting - but then that's a long story.

    We were paying $800.00/month for a tiny one bedroom house, and I KNEW the rent was going to increase again - because we had plumbing problem - one and only toilet backed up.

    Hubby tried to fix - ran the snake, etc. We called Plumbers out (at our expense). They tried. This kept going on for a few months.

    (It was so bad that I either had to place a certain bucket btwn pot rim and seat to go potty, OR, I even had to go WAY out back of our deep lot by a tree! It was bad!)

    Finally Landlord had it fixed correctly, but called to tell us that he "HAD TO SPEND $2000.00" to fix it!

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    I could not believe landlord relayed this info to us! I KNEW a rent increase was in the making! - AGAIN! (He didn't even offer to re-imburse us for the $$$ WE put out! - I know, but that's another story also!)

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  • archerfamily
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Pipersville_Carol
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    $ 1043 principle and interest for 15 year/5% fixed rate (no escrow)
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  • mfbenson
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • markbarbieri
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I pay close to $1,000 a month just for property taxes.

  • weed30 St. Louis
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • dgmarie
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • momtokai
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • cooperyang
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    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • western_pa_luann
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  • piedmont
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The thing with mortgage payments is, most everyone struggles at first and has to make sacrifices in their lives but it doesn't go up. If you can survive the first 10 years, you're sitting pretty afterward. If I'd bought a house 10 years ago, my payments would be around $400-$500/month and I'd had to make sacrifices in my life back then to be able to afford that. Today, and still be paying probably $500/month is a joke! Who can't afford $500/month?

    I purchased my house a couple years ago at a time I was paying $625 in rent and had to pay for my mortage, taxes, insurance of $1100/month. That was hard. Today, it's around $1150/month and had I still been renting I'd have to pay $850 but my income has increased. Ask your parents how much their mortgage payment is. My parents mortgage payment was $35/month a fews years ago. My brother who purchased a house 8 years ago, his mortgage, taxes, and insurance is $700/month. So, everyone struggles at first, but the sooner you start the better.

    One important item is, how easily it will be to improve the houses efficiency and that it is as small as you can live comfortably. If there's a 50's ranch for $200k and a victorian that's 3-4x the size for the same price, go for the ranch. You will never be able to get ahead with the victorian. Think how much it'll cost to heat 1,300 sq ft ranch with normal sized ceilings, probably $3k/year then how much it'll cost to heat 3 floor victorian with a lot more leaks and oversized rooms. Then, how much it'll cost you to replace all the normal sized windows in a ranch with high efficiency ones, vs how much in a victorian to replace 4x more oversized windows. Unless victorians are your style of living and your life there's a reason they sell so cheap. Live in as small a house as you can and as big a property. It'll save you in price, save in heating, save in taxes, save in improvements, and let you have money left over to either make it exactly how you like, take trips, or save for retirement.

  • momtokai
    17 years ago
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    My first mortgage/ins/tax for the primary residence is $3000.00 on a 15 year term.
    My home equity loan on the property is $850. I usually pay $1000 to $2000 extra each month on the home equity. I am trying to pay it off as quickly as possible, since it is ARM.

    My house value is about $800k to $900k. The median house in the area is around $450k to 500k. The average house, I would estimate around $600k to $700k.

    We are a two income family because we both have really great careers/professions that we love and are well compensated. We also have extremely flexible part time situation. We are both happier working, and the kids are very well taken care of. We work mostly because of our work satisfaction not because we have to.

  • celticmoon
    17 years ago
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    Piedmont, I so agree with what you say about housing choices. I went from a big Victorian with 58 windows to a ranch with 10!! Not only way fewer to replace, but fewer to wash, and they don't need storm windows taken on and off.

    I'll take using a step stool over hanging out a third story window any day.

  • lisad71
    17 years ago
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    We live in a 3/2/2 in a gated community in Palm Beach County, FL. Our pymt is about $1545/mo and this includes property taxes which make up about a third of it. We have a 30 yr fixed at 5.5%

  • sid_79
    17 years ago
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    My mortgage + tax + insurance is about $1600 for a 1790 square foot house with a nice 1+ acre in-town lot (I live in Maine). I'm young (26), and the payment is a little tight right now (especially since we are also doing work on the house to update it a little). I make about 75-80k (my salary plus about 10-15k in consulting), my wife doesn't make much - about 20k, but she is working on getting a second undergraduate degree with more employment potential in our area. I am able to put 10% of my salary into my retirement play (my employeer is also putting 10%). I am due for an approximately 4% salary adjustment in October, and my boss is discussing a promotion that should include a better raise after than - so things will get better

  • eroush
    17 years ago
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    Here in zip 20906, Montgomery County, Maryland the cheapest single family house in the multiple listing service is $345,000 - it's a 2 bedroom on a tenth of an acre. That's an estimated mortgage payment of $1700+/month! If you get lucky you could find a (small) townhouse for $200,000. Luckily for me we bought our house 7 years ago, so our mortgage is only $950/ month. Insurance is another $150/ month, property taxes are $2400/yr.
    I am lucky, bought a while ago, am able to stay home w/my kids on hubby's salary. However, my cop brother and his school teacher wife don't have that option, since they only bought a couple of years ago...

  • raelyn
    17 years ago
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    This is for Western pa luann (or who ever else has suggestions) how did you pay your mtg off? About how long did it take you? And is it hurting you with your taxes? I so desperately want to pay our mortgage off, we have only been in it for 1 yr 3mos, and about 4mos ago I switched to bi-weekly and I can only afford paying $20 extra principle a month on top of the bi-weekly for right now. The mtg is 356K so the bi-weekly will only take maybe 5yrs off the 30yr mtg, any other suggestions?

  • steve_o
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    It's hard to answer that, raelyn. There are lots of ways to shorten a mortgage. If you can jigger your budget around to find another $20 each month, choosing to do without something non-essential so that that money can go to the mortgage, that's another five years or so off. If you really want to pay off the mortgage as fast as possible, you could consider a second job. If you didn't provide a down payment of 20% or more, you probably were forced to pay for mortgage insurance; when you reach 20% equity in your home, you may be able to have the mortgage lender drop that insurance premium (and then you can apply that money to the principle as well).

    Without knowing your budget or your financial position, though, there isn't much concrete advice we can offer you.

  • raelyn
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Do you really think an additional $20 a month will shave off 5yrs from my large balance? I don't pay MIP, our appraisal is $540K so we have alot of equity. But I did do something recently, I have consolidated our automobile, and I paid it off and a credit card(the only one we had) and I will be paying $800 a month to pay it off in about 30-35ms. I was thinking when its paid off (not telling my husband right away) cause he will find ways to spend it, but I was thinking I could try( for a few mos if I can) pay the $800 extra principle on our mtg, but anything can happen from now until then and really that is just dreaming. I am on a very tight budget so that I CAN pay extra anyway I can to pay things off, crazy but I would rather pay more on my bills and try to skimp on food at the grocery store. But Steve I will look into the diff of $20 or so that you mentioned, I might be getting a raise soon, so that might be a possibility. And luann if your out there, I would still like to hear from you! Thanks!

  • dadoes
    17 years ago
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    Create yourself an amortization table in Excel or whatever spreadsheet or personal financial software is available. Spreadsheet is easiest for playing with the figures to see what is the effect.

    I've been paying an extra $700 each month since day 1, which has now been 18 months. If I can keep it up, I should be paid off in about 6 years total instead of 15. Or I could do a lump-sum payoff at some point, which is what I did on my first house.

    I've never considered mortgage interest deduction to be a key point. It's a deduction against taxable income, not against tax due, so there's never a 100% benefit.

  • qdognj
    17 years ago
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    Before prepaying your mortgage, you need to calculate your after tax rate of the mortgage,based on your tax bracket..if you have a 5% mortgage,it is likely your after tax rate is lower then that, and you possibly could earn more by placing that additional sum of $$ in a savings/cd/money market account as rates are 4-5%

  • steve_o
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    raelyn, I misread your note; it is the 13th payment you make each year (as a result of biweekly payments) that makes the biggest difference. With your mortgage, another $20 against principle will only get you six fewer mortgage payments over the years. I thought you were chopping five years off with just the $20 a month. I'm sorry .... If you can free up that $800 a month, realize it will take four months of those payments to roughly equal one extra mortgage payment.

  • harriethomeowner
    17 years ago
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    Raelyn, it doesn't seem worth it IMO for you to pay any extra on your mortgage unless you have a specific reason to do so, especially because you say money is tight. Credit cards and other high-interest loans, yes, but your mortgage is probably the least expensive money you can borrow. The extra $20 will not make that much difference.

    I felt the same way when I bought my first house and realized that if I doubled my P&I payments, I could pay it off in 5 years! A month or so of that was quite enough.

  • allboyz
    17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Houses are very expensive in our area. Our new mortgage will be about 2,100 a month. We paid off all of our other bills when we sold our other home.

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