A2007 OFFICIAL ROSE LIST SUPPLEMENT, FEBRUARY 2008 Not An Official ARS Publication Rose lists are published last day of each month. 1) Approved ARS Exhibition Name 2) IRAR / Rose Registrations. 3) Color Classification. 4) Year Introduction / Registered. 5) Modern Roses 12 (MR 12). Changes to 2007 Official List / MR 12, 2008 Handbook 6) MR 12+ Changes & Additions to printing of Modern Roses 12 (*) Approved name change in September 2002. () Roses in commerce in North America (@) All-America Rose Selection “AARS” (#) Award of excellence “AoE” (VF) Roses that are Very Fragrant (**) Dowager Queen in ARS 2007 Official List Roses in Italics, not eligible for Dowager Queen By Ronald Schwerdt 2-29-2008 **********MODERN ROSES********** HYBRID TEAS: (HT) Aallegra HT, or, 1964 Abbaye de Valsaintes HT, dp MR 12+ Accidentally HT, ob MR 12+ Adabiepoint HT, rb MR 12+ Alecia Carol HT, 8-3-06--10/2006, mp, 2006 Alhambra HT, rb MR 12+ Alma June Seville HT, 1-23-06, mp, 2006 Always Favourite HT, 2-16-07, or, 2007 Amazing HT, w, MR 12+ Amazing Grace 07 3-21-07, 4/2007, mr, 2007 Amy Elizabeth HT, ob, 11-19-07 Angels HT, ab, 11-19-07 Annie HT, 11-1-06--1/2007, ob, 2006 Apricot Candy HT, ab, MR 12+ April Moore HT, 6-15-07, w, 2007 April In Paris HT, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Arelia Weddle HT Arielle HT, mp, 2001 MR 12+ Artic Circle HT, w, 12-9-07 Artica HT, w, MR 12+ Artistic Licence HT, rb, 5-20-07※6/2007 Asatsuyu HT, ab, MR 12+ Atlantic Charter HT, 1942 Ashlin Rose HT, dp, 10-8-07, 1-2008 Aurora-Hime HT, or, MR 12+ Autumn Spice HT, 3/2006, ob, 2006 Bea Wallace HT, 2-14-07, 4/2007, dr, 2007 Belle Epoque HT, pb, MR 12+ Better Half HT, pb, MR 12+ Betty O HT, 4-30-06, pb, 2006 Bianca Candy HT, lp, MR 12+ Big Red HT, mr, MR 12+ Bill Heath HT, 6-21-07※6/2007, w, 2007 Blackout HT, r, 12-9-07 Blushing Akito HT, lp MR 12+ Blushing Yuyi HT, 7-2-06--10/2006, rb, 2006 Bob & Linda HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, pb, 2006 Brigitte HT, ob MR 12+ Buffy (restop) HT, mp Burgundy Popwell HT, 5-4-06, w, 2006 Byakuya HT, lp, MR 12+ Canadian Sunset HT, >>>>>Spirit Of Ocean City Castello HT, rb, 1985, MR 12+ Catherine Laborde HT, yb, MR 12+ Catherine Graham 3-5-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Charlene HT, mr MR 12+ Chikugo HT, pb MR 12+ Christine** HT, ab Christine Todd Whitmann HT, lp, MR 12+ Cinderella HT, mp, 2006 Clarice Weston Flower Maker 1-8-07, 4/2007, lp, Classic Woman HT, w, 12-23-07 Claude’s Cracker HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, 2006 Clear Moon HT, 2-15-07, 4/2007, my, 2007 Clifford HT, ly, 11-19-07, MR 12+ Community Banquet HT, 6-15-07, lp, 2007 Conga HT, my, 2005 Comtessa HT, lp MR 12+ Coral Prophyta** HT, op Cosima HT, ob MR 12+>>>>>Arielle, mp, 2001 Crazy One HT, rb MR 12+ Cream Prophyta** HT, w Crème de la Crème HT, ly MR 12+ Crown Princess Mary HT, 8-11-06--10/2006, w Cup Of Joy HT, 1-31-06, mp, 2006 Cute HT, ob MR 12+ Damaris HT, ab, MR 12+ Dan Rafter HT, m, 2007, 10-2-07 MR 12+, 1-2008 Dani** HT, or Dark Velvet HT, dr, MR 12+ Dawning Moment HT, ab MR 12+ Desperado HT, rb MR 12+ Debora Reilly HT, m, 8-17-07, 10/2007 Dina Gee HT, 1-23-06--2/2006, rb, 2006 Dream Come True HT, 12-5-05, ly, 2005 Eileen Bee HT, 6-15-07, lp, 2007 Eileen’s Rose HT, 6-1-06--7/2006, op, 2006 Eleganza HT, lp, 2006 Elizabeth Marie HT, rb, 5-20-07--6/2007 Elizabeth Park Centennial 2-15-07, 4/2007, pb Elle HT, 2005, ab, 2005 @ Eloise HT, op MR 12+ Emina HT, 7-2-06, rb>>>10/2006>>>(S) Ensemble HT, rb MR 12+ Epressions HT, pb, 2006 Eternal Flame HT, my MR 12+ Ethel Sanday HT, yb, 1954 MR 12+ Eve Harkness HT, mr, 1946 Expression HT, ob, 2006 F. Lilac HT, m, MR 12+ F. White HT, w MR 12+ Fairy Ambiance HT, yb MR 12+ Falla HT, or MR 12+ Falling In Love 10-1-06--11/2006, pb, 2007 Fernand Point HT>>>Fernant Point * Fire Storm HT, yb MR 12+ Flare HT, mr MR 12+ Floating Candle HT, ob, 2006 Foster’s Ruby Glow HT, pb, 12-`17-07 Fragrant Plum HT, m, 1990>>>>>>>>>>(Gr) Friend Sonia HT, pb, MR 12+ Fujimai HT, m, 8-11-06--10/2006, MR 12+ Furisode HT, mp, MR 12+ Georgie Bee HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, rb, 2006 Gloria Ellen HT, pb, 12-17-07 Goldrush HT, dy, MR 12+ Golden Fairy Tale HT, my, 2005 Granny Beryl HT, my, 12-9-07 Green Tea HT, w, MR 12+ Guarding Angel HT, ab Hatsukari HT, 3-15-05--7/2005, pb, 2005 Helen Teresa HT, mp, 12-9-07 Help for Children HT, mr, 11-19-07>>>F, 1-2008 Here’s Charlie HT, 8-11-06--10/2006, pb, 2006 Hey Paula HT, 3-5-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Honesty HT, w, 2005 Howard and Sara HT, mr, 12-17-07 Irene Dean HT, 2-14-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Iris HT, 8-11-06--10/2006, op, 2006 Isabella Rossellini HT, dr, 2006 It’s Lovely Mary HT, pb, 10-2-07, 1-2008 James Power HT, ab, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Janice Kellog HT, dr, 2006 Johnny B Good HT, mp, 10-2-07, 1-2008 Johnny Becnel HT>>>>>(F), ob,. 2006 MR 12+ Joyce Ruston HT, 12-9-07 Kilbreda Centenary 3-21-07, 4/2007, mr, 2007 Just Peachy HT, 11-20-06--1/2007, pb, 2006 Ken Bruck HT, mr, 1997 Kuperkoiginin 8-10-06--11/2006, dy, 1996 Lady Teton HT, mp Legends JT, mr, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Leah June HT, pb, 5-20-07※6/2007 LeAnn Rimes, Cl HT, 2-15-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Lisa Michelle 6-13-06--7/2006, ab, 2005 Louise Hay HT, ab, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Lovejoy HT, w, 1-17-08 Margarete Fuchs HT, m, 2006 Marquesa del Vadillo HT>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marquesa de Vadillo * Marlene HT, lp, 10-2-07, 1-2008 Mary Hankins HT, ob, 12-10-07 Matilda HT, mr, 2004,>>>>>>(my), MR 12+ Martha Rice HT, dp Mary C HT, 10-31-05, pb, 2006 Miri HT, pb, 8-17-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ Miss B. Wright HT, mp, 12-17-07 Miss Brenda HT, 5-10-06, m, 2006 Miss Kitty HT, 3-21-07, 4/2007, w, 2007 Mme Elisa de Vilmorin** HT, mr, 1864 Montyjax HT, dr, 12-9-07 Moon Over Miami HT, w, 12-10-07 Mrs Talat Rivi HT, ob, 12-17-07 Myrna Courage HT, 3-21-07, 4/2007, dr, 2007 Naga Belle HT, 8-3-06, 10/2006, dp, 2006 O. L. Weeks HT, dr, 2006 Oracleon Ht, ab, MR 12+ Orchard’s Pride HT, 6/2006, pb, 2006 Oriental Staer HT, 9-27-06--11/2006, op, 2006 Pacific Beauty HT, 8.6, pb, 1962 Peachy Pink 8-21-06--11/2006, pb, 2006 VF Pink Killarney HT, mp Pink Lovejoy HT, lp, 12-23-07 Pink Promise HT, 7-27-07, pb, 10/2007 Pink Promises HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, dp, 2006 PinkTraviata HT, dp, 2006 Pope John Paul II 3-21-07, 4/2007, w, 2007 Prudence Elizabeth HT, w, 5-20-07, 6/2007 Querido Padre HT, ly, 12-17-07 Rainbows Heavenly Scent HT, ab, 12-10-07 Randy Scott HT, w, 12-17-07 Red Tropicana HT, or, 2006 Renate HT, op, 2005 Rosario Algorta HT, 8-11-06--10/2006, ly, 2006 Rose Gold HT, op, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Ruffles & Flourishes HT, mp, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Sara Penrose HT, 11/2005, yb, 2005 September Dawn Ht, 6-15-07, dy, 2007 Sharon Marie HT, 11-1-06--1/2007, rb, 2006 Sheer Magic HT, 3-21-07, 4/2007, ob, 2007 Sheila HT, my Smooth Delight HT, 5-20-06--6/2006, op, Smooth Queen HT, 6/2006, yb, 2006 Smooth Snowflake HT, 6/2006, w, 2006 Snuffy HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, op, 2006 Society Belle HT, pb, 1-17-08 Sophisticated Lady HT, 6-1-06, ab, 2006 Soul Mate HT, 1-23-06--3/2006, pb, 2006 Souv du President Carnot>>>Souvenir du President Carnot * Spangled Red HT, rb, 12-23-07 Speelwark HT, 9-27-06, 11/2006, yb, 1997 Spellbound HT, 3-21-07, 4/2007, op, 2006 Spice Trail HT, 11-1-06--1/2007, pb, 2006 VF Ssuella HT, dy, 2002>>>Suela * St. Ignatius HT, my, 2001 Sudhanshu HT, 9-27-06, 11/2006, lp, 2005 Summer Love HT, my, 8-26-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ Susan Barry HT, rb, 12-10-07 Susan Osborn HT, r, 12-9-07 Sweet Freedom HT, w, 2006 Tahiti HT, ab MR 12+ Tahitian Sunset HT, 3-21-07--4/2007, ab, @ Tassie Carraline HT, mr, 5-20-07, 6/2007 Tassie Melanine HT, lp, 5-20-07, 6/2007 Tblbeta HT, 3-5-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 The Belfast Operatic Company HT, dr, 11-19-07 The Belle Canadese HT, 3/200, lp, 2006 The Linda Smith Rose HT, w, 12-17-07 Thinking Of You HT, mr, 2001 Trump Card HT, 2-18-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Twilight Tryst 11-14-06--1/2007, m, 2006 VF Unlit Snow HT, mp Valerie HT, ly, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Variegata di Barni HT, yb, MR 12+ Welcome Home 3-21-07, 4/2007, ly, 2007 Wenche HT, 12-17-06--1/2007, w, 2006 Westminster 50th Anniv mp, 5-16-07※6/2007 Zena HT, 12-11-06--1/2007, lp, 2006 VF GRANDIFLORAS: (Gr) Arolaqueli Gr, m, 1986 Aztec Gold Gr, dy, 2006 Bride Of Colmar Gr, mr, 2004 Carla Ann Gr, 11-1-06--1/2007, yb, 2006 Catalina Gr, 3-21-07, 4/2007, ab, 2007 Centennial Gr, ab, 2006 Crystal River Gr, 8-11-06--9/2006, ly, 2006 Dream Come True 9-27-06--11/2006, yb, 2008 Fragrant Plum Gr, m, 1990, 6/2007 Golden Opportunity Gr, dy, 1996>>>(F) Kiss Me Gr, mp, 2006 Lizzie’s Fame HT, mp, 10-2-07, 1-008 Martha Allen Gr, ab, 2005 Phyllis Diller Gr, 9-17-06, dy, 2006 Rock & Roll Gr, rb, 8-17-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ Sonia Supreme** Gr, ab Stephen Rulo Gr, r, 12-11-07 Sweet Osmanthus Gr, 11-1-06--1/2007, ab, 2006 Thinking Of You Gr, mr, 2001 Vera Lynn Gr, my Xu GuiHua Gr FLORIBUNDAS: (F) A True Gentleman F, mp, 11-19-07 Aanna Jane F, 11-1-06, 1/2007, or, 2006 Alderley F, mp, MR 12+ Alex Brackstone F, 1-23-06--3/2006, dy, 2006 Amy Donelan F, 11-1-06, 1/2007, m, 2006 VF Angel’s Angel F, 8-10-06--9/2006, or, 2006 Angie Heatwole F, MR 12>>>>>>Min Fl, 3-2008 Anitra Louisa F, 3/2006, rb, 2006 Arcadia Sunrise F, or, 2001 Aaron Dean F, ly, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Baby Ria F, op, 12-9-07 Beatrice Jennings F, 3/2006, op, 2006 Bella Christina F, 12-17-06, 1/21007, rb, 2006 Bella Diana F, pb, 1-17-08 Black Cherry F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, dr, 2006 Blue For You F, 5-12-06--6/2006, m, 2008 Bobbie B. F, pb, 12-10-07 Bolivar F, 10-1-06, 11/2006, pb, 2007 Bonnie Rosalie F, 5-4-06, w, 2006 Bordure Rose F>>>>>>>>>>Strawberry Ice Bossa Nova F, mp, 1992,>>>9/2004>>>(Pol) Bridal White F, w, 1970>>>>>Tricia Brenda’s Cosmic Dancer F, mp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Camaieux ** F, rb Cantario F, mr, MR 12+ Carol Amling, Climbing ** Cl F, mp Castello HT, rb, 1995, MR 12+ Catherine and Thomas F, ob, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Cecil Beaton F, rb, 1973 Charlotte’s Rose F, 6/2006, ab, 2006 Choir of Angels F, yb Cinco de Mayo F, r, 8-17-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ Cinnamon Twist 3-21-07, 4/2007, ob, 2006 Clara Eileen F, 1-23-06--3/2006, ob, 2006 Coachman F, mr, 1996 Colby School F, 9-26-06--11/2006, lp, 2005 Collegiate 110 ** F, op Comet Tail ** F, m Condoleezz F, 6-13-06--7/2006, pb, 2006 Coral galaxy** F, op Coral Sunrise F, ab Cristina Vidal** F, my Cupido F, dr, MR 12+ Daddy’s Girls F, ab, 2006 Dancing Team** F, ab Darin F, 8-10-06--9/2006, dr, 2006 David Fleming F, mr, 12-9-07 Debbie Trinder F, my, 11-19-07 Deford Bailey F, mr, 1-17-08 Derbyshire Dawn F, lp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Diana Holman F, 5-21-07--6/2006, m, 2006 Disguise F, rb, 2006 Doris Stanbridge F, my, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Dusty Pink Follies F, mp MR 12+ Eeanor Annelise F, pb Emely Vigorosa F, dp, 2006 Emilia Rose Burke F, dp, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Emile Debroise F, yb, MR 12+ Emma Wallace O’Flaherty F, lp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Evening Mist F, m, 10-15-07 MR 12+, 1-2008 VF Evie F, ly, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Fab At Fifty F, 6/2006, dp, 2006 Filomena F, 2-9-07, 4/2007, dy, 2007 Fire Eyes F, w Flemington F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, dp, 2007 Forever Amber Cl. Cl F, ob, MR 12+ Francis Jammes F, ab, MR 12+ Frankly Scarlet F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, mr, 2008 Fredensged tmispark Hiroshima F, dy MR 12+ Garland’s Gold F, 11-1-06--1/2007, ab, 2006 Gemma Louise F, mp, `1-`17-08 Genevie Orsi F, lp, MR 12+ Georges Denjean F, yb>>>>>(ob), 2006 Gladys Quine 12-1-05, ob, 2005>>>(Min Fl) Glenda Marie F, 20 petals, F>>>>>>>>>with shrimp pink petal edges Golden Iceberg F, 5-20-06, yb, 2006 Golden Flush F, dy MR 12+ Golden Opportunity F, dy, 1996 Guardian Angel F, ab MR 12+ Hannah Gordon F, 20 ※25, petals F>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with strong pink edges Hayley Scott F, dp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Heather Lenkin F, ab, 12-21-07 Heaven On Earth F, ab, 2001 Help for Children F, mr, 11-19-07>>>F, 1-2008 Hilda’s Beauty F, op, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Home & Garden F, 8-11-06---11/2006, lp, 2001 Innocencia F, 9-27-06--11/2006, w, 2003 Irene F, 4-27-06--6/2006, ly, 2006 Iris May F, mp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 VF Janet’s Passion F, dp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 John Macmillan Pearson F, mr, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Johnny Becnel F, ob, 2004, 11-2-07 MR 12+ Julia Child F, 3-17-06, my, 2004 @ Julio Iglesias F, w, 12-23-07 Just Brilliant F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, yb, 2007 Katie Prior F, w, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Katy Mae F, w, 2002 Knirps F, 9-27-06--11/2006, dp, 1997 Lapcol F, yb, MR 12+ Laura Bush F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, or, 2007 Le Masquerade en Villefrance F, 2-23-06 Leah Alison F, ob, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Light Of Day F, 3/2006, my, 2006 Louis L. Hay F, ob, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Lovestruck F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Magic Moments F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Mardi Gras F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2008 Maria Kent F, ob, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Mariatheresia F, mp, 2004 Matilda Jones F, 1-8-07, ab, 2007 Mama Terese F, pb, 12-17-07 McCarthy Rose S, mr, 11-19-07 Minuette F, rb, 1969>>>Laminuette Minx F, ob, 1959>>>>Mink>>>>>>2007 OL Miss Newell F, 5-4-06, m, 2006 Monnie F, lp Moondance F, 3-21-07, 4/2007, w, 2006 @ Mum’s Blessing HT, w, 12-1`7-07 My Beautiful English Rose F, 12-10-07 My Everything F, 6/2006, or, 2006 My Gail F, 1-23-06--3/2006, ly, 2006 Nicole 30-35 petals, F>>>>>>>>with soft pink petal edges October Moon F, 3/2006, ab, 2006 Olive F, mr, 1982>>>>>(S) 2007 OL Pamela F, lp, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Patricia Mary F, mr, 12-10-07 Pays d’Ange F, w MR 12+ Peachy Cheeks F, 10-1-06, ob, 2006 Plume d’Iroise F, mr, MR 12+ Rachael Fox F, 3/2006, mr, 2006 Rainbow Sorbet F, yb, 2006 @ Rainy F, 8-11-06, 10/2006, mr, 2006 Raspberry Ice F, pb, 1989>>>(Min Fl) Red Carefree Delight F, rb, MR 12+ Red Leonardo Da Vinci F, dr---2004 Roar! F, dy, 1-27-08 Ron’s Love F, dr, 12-9-07 Rose Marie Gorst F, dp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Rustington Rose F, ob, 11-19-07 Samantha F, dp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Sarah Hartas F, or, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Saxy Bob F, op, 2000 Scent To Remember 6-13-05--9/2005, ab, 2006 Shadow Ninja F, or, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Shockwave F, my, 8-17-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ Sisters At Heart F, ab, 2006 Sixteen Candles F, lp, 2006 Soft Morning F, 1-31-06--6/2006, ab, 2006 Ssiena Vigorosa F, op, 1997 Steve Chase F, 6/2006, ob, 2006 Strawberry Ice F, pb, 1986 Summer Flurries F, w, 2002 SunQueen F, 11-13-05--5/2006, yb, 2006 Sweet Response >>>The Optimist Sweet San Carlos F, 6-13-06--7/200, m, 2006 Tassie Diana F, lp, 12-21-07 Tassie Laua-Maree F, dp, 5-20-07 Tassie Miss Carolyn F, mp, 12-10-07 Tassie Mme Mariah F, w, 5-20-0-7※6/2007 The Balvenie Rose F, dr, 11-19-07, 1-2008 The Daldry Rose F, 11-14-06--1/200, rb, 2006 The English Lady F---17/25, ab, 2005 The Freda Perry F, lp, 11-16-07, 1-2008 The Prestbury Rose F, ab, 11-19-07, 1-2008 The Sandyland’s Rose F, yb, 12-17-07 Tricia F, w, 1970>>>>>>>>>2007 OL Triyabell Trust F, or, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Tye Dye F, >>>5-21-06 >>>(Min Fl) Valerie Ann F, 1-23-06--3/2006, dy, 2006 Vince Butterworth F, 5-4-06, rb, 2006 Wedding Cake F, 6-15-07, w, 2007 Wendy F, lp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 White Walko F, 8.7, dr, 1957 Winter Haven F, 8-10-06--9/2006, lp, 2006 MINIATURES: (Min) Able Min, 11-20-06--1/2007, yb, 2006 Amor Hit Min, dr, >>>>>2007 Ange Divin Min, op, 1994>>>(Min Fl) MR 12+ Austin Jace Min, 2-28-06--5/2006, m, 2006 Baby Fifty-Fifty Min, ob, MR 12+ Baby Jane Clare Min, mp, 11-14-07 Big Apricot Min, ab, 2006 , (HT) MR 12+ Billy Fury Min, 1-23-06--3/2006, lp, 2006 Biola Centennial Min, rb, 12-11-07 Black Heart Min, 6-13-06--7/2006, dr, 2006 Bonfire Min, 8-11-06--10/2006, rb, 2006 # Burgess pink ** Min, mp Burgess red ** Min, mr Burgess Yellow ** Min, my Caramel Kisses Min, 3-21-07, 4/2007, m, 2008 Caroline Nicholos Min, 2-23-06--5/2006, m, Casino Mama HT, mp, 10-2-07 MR 12+, 1-2008 Changing My Habits 6-13-06--7/2006, r, 2006 Chelsea Brittlyn 12-17-06--1/2007, mp, 2006 Cherry Rose** Min, dp Chili Clementine Min, rb MR 12+ Chinaberry** Min, yb Coffee Bean Min, 10-1-06--11/2006, r, 2008 Damara Min, 6-27-06--9/2006, mr, 2006 Danara Min, 6-13-06--7/2006, rb, 2006 Darla Min, lp, 8-26-07, 2007 David D. Berstein, CL Min, 4-20-06--6/2006, mr Daylight’s Glow Min, 7-5-06--10/2006, my Dr Michael Noble 9-27-06--11/2006, ob, 2007 Dukata Min, 6-27-06--9/2006, ob, 2006 Emma Grace Min. ob, 12-10-07 Eveka Min, 7-2-06--10/2006, pb, 2006 Florance Daley Min, lp, 11-19-07, 1-2008 George’s Pride Min, ob, 5-20-07, 6/2007 Gift of Time Min, w, MR 12+ Gloria des Lawranceanas ** Min, dr, 1837 Glowing With Pride Min, 7-2-06--10/2006, ob Gold Star Min, yb, MR 12+ Golden Horizon Min, 7/2006, my, 2006 Icelantic Angel Min, w, 8-17-07, 10/2007 Happy Thoughts Min, 4-10-06--6/2006, ob Haru-No-Umi Min, pb, 12-9-07 Heartland Flame Min, ob, 10-8-07 MR 12+, 1-2008 Heidi-ho Min, 8-10-06--10/2006, ab, 2006 Hope And Joy 6-15-07, ob, 2007 John Boy Min, 11-20-06--1/2007, yb, 2006 Josh Alonso Min, 9-26-06--11/2006, op, 2007 Joy Min, pb, 5-20-07, 6/2007 Joy In The Morning Min, 10/2006, ab, 2006 Karmini Minimo Min, mr Klassy Lady 8-10-06--10/2006, pb, 2006 Lavender Pixie Min, m, 11-14-07 Lemon Up Min, 6-13-06--7/2006, yb, 2006 Little Pete Min, or, 2006 Love And Peace Min, 6-15-07, rb, 2007 Mardarin Min, 8-10-06--11/2006, lp, 1987 Marie Renfroe Min, ab, 12-10-07 Marita Lindner Min, 10-1-06--11/2006, lp, 2006 Memphis Bell Min, rb, 12-21-07 Mini Wings Min, rb, 1985, 1-18-08 Miss Ruth Min, mp, 1959 Molly Min, 8-2-06--10/2006, mp, 2006 Morning Call Min, w, 12-17-07 Mother Lode 11-1-06--1/2007, yb, 2006 My Hometown Min, rb, 12-10-07 Noon Sunshine Min, 10/2006, ly, 2006 Olympic Gold Min,>>>>>>>Min Fl, 3-2008 Orange Classic Min, ob, 2006 Orange You Happy Min, 7/2006, m, 2006 Orange-Cherry Up Min, 7/2006, or, 2006 Ox Min, 7.0 (7.2), rb, 1986 Pink Patio Min, lp, 4-25-07 Pearl Sanford Min, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Pennies From Heaven, Cl, 11/2006, r, 2007 Peppermint Parfait Min, rb, 11-14-07 Petite Perle d’Or Min, 1-22-07, 4/2007, ab, 2006 Phoenix Rising Min, ob, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Pink Joey Min, 6.2, 1953 Pink ’n’ Pretty 1-22-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Pink Twist Min, 6-15-07, pb, 2007 Purple Passion Min, m R.C. Min, w Red Hot Friendship Min, rb, 2001 Robert Snowden Min, yb, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Rose Country Min, lp>>>>>>>>>>>>2007 Rosemarin Min, pb---1965 Saluda Min, 10-2-06--11/2006, ob, 2007 # Sheena Louise Min, dr, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Sleeping Beauty Min, pb, 2005>>>(Min Fl) Smoked Salmon Min, 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Snowman Min, w Soulmate Min, 1-22-07, w, 2007 Spring Fling 10-1-06--11/2006, mr, 2006 Starlight Parade Min, w>>>>>>>>>>>2007 Sydney Mary Min, or, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Tiddly Winks Min, 10-1-06--11/2006, yb, 2008 Tiko Tiko Min, rb, 2001 Top Priority Min, lp Vital Parade Min, my, 2002 Warm & Fuzzy Min, mr, 5-20-07※6/2007 White Chariot Min, w, 2005 Willing Min, 11-20-06--1/2007, yb, 2007 Zwergkonig 78 Min, dr>>>>>>>>>(Min Fl) MINI-FLORA: (Min Fl) Abby’s Angel 1-8-07, 4/2007, dy, 2007 Ablaze Min Fl, ob, 12-9-07 Alan Sandy Min Fl, 8-11-06, 2006 Amor Hit Min Fl, 2003>>>>>(Min) 2007 Ange Divin Min Fl, op, 1994 MR 12+ Angie Heatwole Min Fl, w, 12-30-07 Bonfire Min Fl, >>>11-1-06, (Min) Breid Min Fl, rb, 10-8-07 MR 12+ Bud Meyers Min Fl, 8-21-06, ob, 2006 Captain Scarlet Cl Min Fl, mr, 2”, 9/16 MR 12 Carolyn’s Passion Min Fl, my, 1-23-06 Chatsworth Min Fl, dp, 1998>>>(S), 2007 OL Conundrum Min Fl, yb, 2001-8/2002 Copper Star Min Fl, ob, 4/8, 2007 Edisto Min Fl, 1-22-07, 5-20-07, 2007 Ellie Johnson Min Fl, my, 10-8-07 Fantasi Min Fl, ex, w, 50, 1.5-2.75”, 1996 MR 12 First Choice Min Fl, w, 12-10-07 Florence Daley Min, lp, 11-19-07 Fluffy Cloud Min Fl, w, 4-29-07 MR 12 Gianlauro Min Fl, 1978 MR 12 Gladys Quine Min Fl, 3/2006, ob, 2005 Golden Jewel Min Fl, dy, 1959 Grace Sharington Min Fl, mp, 5-20-07, 2007 Hazel McCallion Min Fl, pb, 1-27-08 High Ambition 8-21-06--11/2006, ab, 2006 Hot To Trot Min Fl, 8-21-06, or, 2006 Ingrid’s Hawaiian Magic Min Fl, 1-17-08 Ingrid’s Sister Elisabeth M/F, pb, 8-3-06, Joyful Min Fl. pb, 12-10-07 Kieran’s Rose Min Fl, 1-1-06, yb, 2006 Kim Peters Min Fl, 2-23-06--5/2006, mp L’ je Min Fl, mr, 12-17-07 Lady Jennifer Green Min Fl, 2-23-06, dr Leading Lady Min Fl, 8-11-06, w, 2006 # Lilac Festival Min Fl, m, 12-9-07 Louise Emma Min Fl, op, 10-8-07 MR 12+ Loyal Vassal 1-8-07, 4/2007, ob, 2007 Majorette Min Fl, mr, 1987, MR 12 Mariam Ismailjee 9-27-06---11/2006-2007 Marian Finnucane Min Fl, dr, 10-8-07 Mary’s Pleasure-the Marywoods Rose>>>>>> Min Fl, >>>>>>>>>>>>>5-10-06, dp, 2006 Mee Maw Min Fl, 9-14-06, pb, 2006 Melinda Alonso Min Fl, ab, 10-8-07 MR 12+ Memphis Cajun Min Fl, 4-30-06, m, 2006 Memphis Music Min Fl, 5/2006, rb, 2006 Michel Mander Min Fl, pb, 10-15-07 MR 12+ Minnelli Min Fl, ab, 40/50, 2.5”, 2003 MR 12 Moonlit Min Fl, w, 12-10-07 Mr JCB Min Fl, 4-2-06,>>>>>>>(Shrub) Mr Lenard Min Fl, 1-8-06, 4/2007, mp, 2007 Mrs Mavis Watson Min Fl, 3/2006, ly, 2007 My Inspiration M/F, 1-8-07, 4/2007, w, 2007 Nature’s Wonder 1-8-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Nolpeg Min Fl, 7-14-04--8/2004, m, 2004 Nolsue Min Fl, 11-18-04--9/2005, pb, 2005 Olympic Gold Min Fl, ly, 1983 Phoenix Rising Min, ob, 11-19-07 Penny Girl Min Fl, ab, 12-10-07 Picture Perfect 1-8-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Pink Patio M/F>>>>>Min, lp, 4-25-07 Power Point M/F, mp, 12-9-07, # MR 12+ Ready Min Fl, 1-20-06, yb, 2007 Regina Lee’s Sister Min Fl, temporary AEN Ricky Hendrik M/F, dr,>>>> Ricky Hendricky Ricky Hendricky Min Fl, dr, 1-1-08, MR 12+ Rio Rita Min Fl, 3/2003--3/2006, dy, 2006 Robert Snowden Min, yb, 11-19-07 Rose Country M/F, lp>>>>>>>(Min) 2007 Shameless Min Fl, rb, 12-23-07 Shenandoah Min Fl, 8-2-06, dr, 2006 Shirynne Cowan M/F, 10-2-07, 1-2008 Show Stopper M/F, ab, 12-30-07 # Showstopper M/F, 12-9-07>>>>>Show Stopper Sleeping Beauty l-10-31-05--6/2006, pb Southern Sunrise Min Fl, ob, 1999 MR 12 Starlight Parade M/F, w, >>>>>>(Min) 2007 Summer Night Min Fl, yb, 2005 MR 12 Sunglow Min Fl, my, 12-10-07 Sydney Mary Min, or, 11-19-07 The Creakers Rose 2-23-06--5/2006, 2006 The Guthrie Rose 8-21-06--11/2006, 2006 To Mummy M/F>>>>>>>Blossom Blanket (S) Trifling Min Fl, rb, 2006 Tye-Dye Min Fl, 5-21-06, rb, 2006 Unbridled Min Fl, yb, 11-14-07 Valentine’s Day 9/2004, 7-2-06, dr, 2004 Vera Roberta Carver 1-23-06--3/2006, 2007 Vice Versa Min Fl, 11-20-06--1-2007, rb, 2007 Wind Rhythm Min Fl, ob, 2001 Winter Night Reg. Rejected>>>Conundrum, Min Fl Yellow Nugget Mega Brite dy, 40/50, 2.5” MR 12 POLYANTHA: (Pol) Alfalfa Pol, m, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Bossa Nova Pol, mp, 1992, 9-2004 Cotton Candy Pol, lp, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Fluffy Cloud Pol, 2-15-07, 4-29-07>>>>>Min Fl Lilac Joseph Guy Pol, m, MR 12+ Lippay Jr’s ? Pol, dr, MR 12+ Little White Star Pol, 2-18-07, 4/2007, w, 2004 Marshmallow Pol, w, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Pink Sweetie Pol, 2-18-07, 4/2007, lp, 2004 Spanky Pol, mp, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Wing-Ding Pol, 10-18-06, 11/2006, mr, 2007 CLASSIC SHRUBS: HYBRID MUSKS (HMsk) De Tous Mois ** HMsk, w---Frencesca HMsk, ab, 1922 Spanish Musk Rose ** HMsk, w, HYBRID KORDESII (HKor) Cape Diamond HKor, mp, 8-26-07, 10/2007 HYBRID RUGOSA: (HRg) Carmina HRg, mr Caroyal ** HRg, mr Dark Foxi HRg, m, MR 12+ Lavender White Rugosa HRg, m, 2002 Pacific Pearls HRg, lp, 12-10-07 Parnassine** HRg, m, 1825 Purple Springs HRg, 2-13-06, m, 2006 HYBRID WICHURANA (HWich) Lonesome Dove HWich, 10/2006, w, 2006 VF MODERN SHRUB: (S) Ancelin** S, dp, 1829 Anna De Boleyn** S, lp, 1829 Annie S, ly, 1998>>>Annie East Apricot Multirosa S, ab, MR 12+ Astronomia S, lp, MR 12+ Atocha Gold S, 8-11-06, 9/2006, my, 2006 Baby Luke S, 1-23-06--3/2006, pb, 2006 Beginnings S, pb, 2006 Belle Blanca S, w>>>>>>>>(HG) MR 12+ Belle Rosine** S, dp, 1820 Biarritz S, yb, MR 12+ Blossom Blanket S, rb, 2007 Bishop’s Castle 11-14-06--1/2007, mp, 2006 Camille Rose S, 12-1-06, 1/2007, mp, 2006 Candia Meillandecor S, mr, MR 12+ Cantario S, mr, MR 12+ Caramella S, 8-29-06, 11/2006, my, 2001 Castello S, rb, 1985, >>>>>(HT) MR 12+ Catherine Guelda S, 11-1-06--1/2007, m, 2006 Cesar S, 1995>>>(LCl) Charma S, mr MR 12+ Cicely Phippen Marks S, lp, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Cinderella S, 8-29-06--11/2006, lp, 2003 Citrus Splash S, 3-21-07, 4/2007, ob, 2007 Cole’s Settlement S, w, 1-23-06, 2006 Coral Drift S, op, MR 12+ Crimson Meidiland S, mr, 12-23-07 Darcey Bussell S, 11-14-06--1/2007, rb, 2006 Dieter Meer S, m, MR 12+ Dolly’s Forever Rose S, rb, 2-23-06, 2006 Domaine De St Jean de Beauregard S, mp, 2006 Doris Read S, ab, 10-2-07 MR 12+, 1-2008 Eckart Witzigmann S, mp MR 12+ Elizabeth of Goshen S, m, 11-19-07, 1-2008 Emina S, 7-2-06--10/2006, rb, 2006 Enigma Variation S, mp---2006 Esmae Lilly S, ly, 11-19-02, 1-2008 Evelyn May S, 5-20-06--6/2006, op, 2006 Exuberance S, mr, 2006 Fair Meidiland S, mp, 12-23-07 Faith S, m, 2002 Fakir’s Delight S, 6-13-06, 7/2006, w, 2006 Festival des Jardins de Chaumont S, ab MR 12+ Festive Jewel S, 5-20-06--6/2006, pb, 2005 Fiesta S, pb, MR 12+ Footloose S, dp, 1998>>>>>>2007 OL Fun Jwan Lo** S, w, 1910 Fur Elise S, 5-10-06, pb, 2007 Ganges Mist S, 5-18-05--7/2005, w, 2005 Gardener’s Joy S, 9-26-06, 11/2006, ab, 2005 Garry Moore S, mr, 10-2-07, 1-2008 Gentle Hermione 11-14-06--1/2007, 2006 Georges Denjean S, ob, >>>>(F), yb MR 12+ Gina’s Rose 6-1-06--7/2006, rb, 2006 VF Glee S, mr, 12-9-07 Golden Fanfare S, 1-22-07, 4/2007, my, 2005 Goldhaube S, dy, MR 12+ Good ‘n’ Plenty 3-21-07, 4/2007, pb, 2007 Great Wall S, dp, 2005 Grosse Mohnkopfs Rose** S, dp, Hardii** S, yb, 1834 Henry Bierbauer S, pb, 2006 Hubar 2003-1 S, mp MR 12+ Hurdalsrosen** S, mp, 1860 Ida Red S, 8-11-06--9/2006, mr, 2006 Inclanation S, dr, 2006, 12-21-07 Instigation S, dr, 2006 Island Dancer S, pb, 2006 Ivor’s Rose S, 5-20-06, 6/2006, rb, 2005 Ivory Warrior S, 6-1-06, 9/2006, w, 2006 J. P. Connell S, my, MR 12+ Jaune Bicolor** S, yb, 1633 Joan Beatles S, 5-20-06--6/2006, dr, 2005 Joe Grey (WILjoeg) S, 2/2003, m, 2003 Josi S, 6-15-07, ly, 2007 Kitty’s Rose S, 5-20-06--6/2006, lp, 2004 La Bitta S, dy, 2005 Lady Emma Hamilton 11-14-06--1/2007, or, 2006 VF Lady Of Megginch 11-14-06--1/2007, dp, VF Lana Jane S, mp, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Landmark S, 1-23-06--3/2006, pb, 2006 Lichfield Angel S, 11-14-06--1/2007, w, 2006 Loreto Gold S, 3-21-07, 4/2007, yb, 2007 Lovely Child S, 5/2006, ab, 2006 Loving Care S, mr, 11-16-07, 1-2008 Lowel Allen S, op, 2005 Margaret Jean S, 9/2006, pb, 2006 Mariee S, 2-15-07, 4//2007, ab, 2008 Marilyn O’Connor S, mr, 12-11-07 Mirato S, dp, 1998>>>>Footloose>>>>2007 OL Miss Bloomsalot S, 9/2006, op, 2006 Miss Lillian S, 1-23-06※3/2006, pb, 2006 Mr JCB S, my, 4-2-06>>>>>>>2007 Nativity S, ab, 2006 Nelson’s Pride S, 9-26-06--11/2006, w, 2006 Olive S, mr, 1982>>>>>>>>>>2007 OL Orange Cluster S, ob, 2006 Our Beth S, 9-26-06, 11/2006, lp, 2006 Out Of The Night 6-13-06--7/2006, w, 2006 Paddy ‘n’ Elizabeth S, 10/2006, ob, 2006 Paint The Town S, mr, 2005 Palm Springs S, 6-1-06--9/2006, mr, 2006 Palmengarten Frankfurt 11/2006, dp, 1988 Paul Cottingham S, 5/2006, dy, 2006 Persian Flame S, 6-15-07, rb, 2007 Persian Peach S, 6-15-07, yb, 2007 Pink Bianca S, mp, 2002 Pink Delight S, mp, 1999 Pink Double Knockout S, mp, 8-26-07, 10/2007 Pink Perlude S, 2-13-06--7/2005, mp, 2005 Pinnatifide ** S, mp, Plum Frost S, 3-21-07, 4/2007, m, 2007 Poise S, lp, 2006 Pourpre Ancien ** S, m, 1829 Premier Essai** S, w, 1866 Rainbow Knockout S, mp, 2006 @ Raspberry Bouquet 12-1-06--1/2007, 2006 VF Red Popcorn S, dp, 2005 Riches S, m Roisin Ruddle S, ob, 2004>>>Ron Ruddle * Rose Atieno S, or, 11-14-07, 1-2008 Rosy Vision S, 1-26-06--3/2006, mp, 2006 Rustler’s Dream S, 8-11-06--9/2006, lp, 2006 Scarlet Velvet S, mr, 2006 Schulenfest S, 8-11-06--9/2006, ly, 2006 Sherlock Holmes S, ab, 2006 Simon Estes S, 6-1-06--7/2006, mp, 2006 Sister Elizabeth 11-14-06--1/2007, mp, 2006 Snowcone S, 3-21-07, 4/2007, w, 2006 Spring Fever S, lp, MR 1`2+ Stint S, or, 2006 Strawberry Hill 11-14-06--1/2007, lp, 2006 VF Striata** S, rb, Summer Song S, 11-14-06, ob, 2006 Summer Sunrise S, 6/2006, lp, 2006 SunQueen S, yb, 3/2006>>>(F)>>>5/2006 Sunny Knock Out S, ly, 8-17-07, 10/2007 Sweet Meidiland S, lp, 2003 Tea Clipper S, 11-14-06, 1/2007, ab, 2006 Teeny Bopper S, rb, 8-26-07, 10/2007 The Abbottsford Rose (WILjoeg)>>>Joe Grey The Imposter S, pb, 8-26-07, 10/2007 MR 12+ The Shepherdess 11-14-06, 1/2007, ab, 2006 Turneps** S, dp, Vic’s Refrain S, w, 1-27-08 Watercolors S, 10-1-06, 11/2006, yb, 2007 White Popcorn S, 17/25, w, 2005 Wild Edric S, 11-14-06, 1/2007, dp, 2006 Wild Thing S, 3-21-07, 4/2007, dp, 2007 Windermere S, 11-14-06, 1/2007, w, 2006 LG. FLOWERED CLIMBERS: (LCl) Aloha LCl, 1-17-08 Amber Cloud LCl, 2-28-06, 5/2006, dy, 2006 Apricot LCl, ab, 2006 Bellavista LCl, lp MR 12+ Blaze Of Glory LCl, ob, 2004 Blue Lady LCl, m, MR 12+ Brise Parfum LCl, lp, MR 12+ Brite Eyes LCl, pb, 2006 Candy Land LCl, 10-1-06, 11/2007, pb, 2007 Cesar LCl, yb, 1993 Cheers LCl, pb, 2001 Clarence House LCl, 6/2006, w, 2006 Conch Shell LCl, 11-1-06--1/2007, pb, 2006 Crimson Sky LCl, mr, MR 12+ Destiny’s Dream 11-1-06, 1/2007, my, 2006 Full Moon Rising LCl, ly, 12-23-07 Gainesville Garnet 8-29-06, 11/2006, dr, 2006 Harlekin LCl, 9-26-06--11/2006, w, 1986 Ivory Castle LCl, w, 5-20-07※6/2007 Jacob’s Robe LCl, 10-1-06--11/2006, yb, 2008 Laguna LCl, 8-29-06, 11/2006, dp, 2004 Lonesome Dove HWich, 8-11-06, w, 2006 Lori LCl, 2-9-07, or, 2007 Lunar Mist LCl, ly, 12-23-07 Morning Magic LCl, lp, 8-17-07, 10/2007, MR 12+ Mount Eden LCl, mp, 12-17-07 New Hampshire Statehouse LCl, op, 2001 Paul Jerabek LCl, 1-22-06, 4/2007, pb, 2006 Rachael’s Smile LCl, 2-16-07, 4/2007, or, 2001 Rambling Rosie LCl, mr, 12-11-07 Salita LCl, 9-26-06--11/2006, or, 1987 Serape LCl, mr Sir John Mills LCl, 5-20-06--2/2006, mp, 2006 Sir Paul Smith 9-26-06--11/2006, ab, 2006 Sombreuil LCl, 11/2006, 1850 Sunset Beauty LCl, 11-1-06--1/2007, op, 2006 Sunshine Girl LCl, lp The Physician LCl, 2-15-07, 4/2007, lp, 2007 Winner’s Circle LCl, dr, 8-17-07, 10/2007 MNR 12+ Zorba LCl, ab, 2005 HYBRID MUSK (HMsk) Eponine** HMsk, w, Jeri Jennings---HMsk, 1-8-07, 4/2007, yb, 2007 Lupe’s Buttons HMsk, 11-1-06, 1/2007, w, 2006 Rivers Musk** HMsk, mp, Spanish Musk Rose** HMsk, w, HYBRID GIGANTEA (HG) Alister’s Gift HG, 12-1-06, 1/2007, lp, 2003 Amber Cloud HG, 2005 Bella Blanca HG, w MR 12+9 Belle Portugaise HG, lp, 1903 MR 12 Cooper’s Burmese HG, 1927 Double Cream HG, 1-8-07, 4/2007, w, 2007 Evergreen Gene HG, 11-1-06, ly, 2006 Flammetta HG, 1922 La Follette HG, mp, 1910 MR 12+ Lusitania HG, 1905 Monteariso HG, 1920 Senteur Amic HG, mr, 1924 MR 12+ HYBRID KORDESIL (HKor) Bengt M. Schalin HKor>>>>(HEg) dp************Old Garden Roses********** BOURBON & CL. BOURBON: (B &Cl B Adrienne de Cardoville** B, lp, 1864 MR 12+ Capitaine Sissolet B, mp, Pink Confection B, 4/2007, mp, 2006 HYBRID CHINA & CL HYBRID (HCh & Cl HCh) Capitaine Sissolet HCh, mp, >>(B) MR 12+ HYBRID EGLANTERIA (HEg) Bengt M. Schalin HEg, dp, 1956, MR 12+ HYBRID GALLICA: (HGal) Agathe Fatime** mp, >Agathe Fatim * The French Strumpet HGal, 10-1-06, dp, 2006 HYBRID MUSK (HMsk) Isabella Sprunt Single Seedling HMsk, lp, MR 12+ NOIISTTE (N) Lemon Zen N, 9-14-06--10/2006, ly, 2006 VF Sarasota Spice N, 11-1-06, 1/2007, w, 2006 VF HYBRID PERPETUAL (HP) Amelia Louise** HP, mp, 1844 Comet** HP, m, 1845 Du Roi a Fleur** HP, 1819 Hybrid SETIGERA HSet) Anna Maria** HSet, dp, 1843>>>Anne Maria * HYBRID SPINOSISSIMA (HSpn) Single Red HSpn, rb, MR 12+ TEA & CLIMBING TEA: (T & CL T) Alexandra T, op, MR 12+ Belle Portugaise Cl T, lp, 1903>>(HG) MR 12+ Clothilde Soupert T, mp, 1883 * Comelie Koch** T, w, 1855 Garnet Crest T, 12-01-06, 1/2007, pb, 2006 Krishna’s Peach T, 11-1-06, 1/2007, ab, 2006 La Follette Cl T, mp, 1910>>>>>(HG) MR 12+ Mlle de Sombreuil T>>> Mme de Sombreuil Mme de Sombreuil Cl T, w, >>>>>>>>(LCl) Sombreuil Cl T, w, 11/2006>>>>>>>>(LCl) Senateur Amic CL T, mr>>>>(HG) MR 12+ Won Fang Yon T, or, 12-23-07 MISCELLANEOUS OGR (Misc. OGR) Allard Misc OGR, dy, MR 12+ D’Orsay rose** Misc OGR, dp, 1850 Mannington Mauve Rambler 6-15-07, m R. Collina** Misc OGR, mp, 1788 R. Turbinata** Misc OGR, m, 1629 MOSS & Cl M Fara Shim Bo M, 2-9-07, 4/2007, m, 2007

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Image by: Rubby Mazus reptans This thread was posted by runktrun on the New England Gardening Forum, and has been added to the FAQ because of the valuable information contributed by many forum members. ====================================================================== Covering the Ground Posted by runktrun z7a MA (My Page) on Tue, Sep 20, 11 at 18:03 I don't know if it is because of my hunch back, shy persona, or lack of coordination but I am one of those folks who at a comfortable daydreaming stride always have my head slightly hung with my eyes to the ground. If I am distracted and not really paying attention to my surroundings I would at a later date be far more able to describe what I saw on the ground than hanging from a wall or tree. This is why I find it odd that I have for the most part shied away from groundcovers. In the two garden areas that I have used groundcovers I am head over heels with the effect and function (lack of weeding). I am presently in the process (I know bad timing) of reconstructing a couple of different areas and would love to get some groundcovers planted as well. My latest obsession is Asarum and I am wondering what your experiences have been with any type of Asarum or if you have any experience good or bad with ground covers that you might share. ____________________________________________________________________________ Follow-Up Postings: Posted by molie z6 CT (My Page) on Tue, Sep 20, 11 at 19:27 I was given some clumps of Asarum europeaeum two springs ago. I planted it in a shaded area along the chimney and it's thriving. It's a tough plant that does not require special care but it's slow growing so I consider it more of an accent plant in my garden. One groundcover I have that really surprised me was Veronica Waterperry Blue. I bought a few small plants about five years ago and planted them in part sun area in front of a large rock. The blue flowers put on quite a show in the spring, covering the whole plant, and then bloomed sporadically in the summer. What I also like about this plant is the fact that the leaves change color in the cooler fall weather, kind of purple/red/green. Last summer I moved some into two other areas. One cluster was put in a very sunny spot in my long garden. These have taken off as well and now creep over the stepping stones. The other clumps were put along the foundation at the front of our house, which gets just morning light and even less behind my Cornus Kousa 'Wolf Eyes.' The long and the short of it is that wherever I've put Waterperry, it has thrived. Molie ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by nhbabs z4b-5a NH (My Page) on Tue, Sep 20, 11 at 21:02 I love the added texture and ease of care of a great groundcover. Like Molie, I find Asarum europeaeum to be a slow spreader, though it's lovely. Mine is in mostly shade. I haven't tried growing Asarum canadense which is the only other one that would be fully hardy here; the rest would be borderline at best. A. canadense has much less shiny, slightly larger leaves, but is also a charming plant that I have seen growing wild in the midwest. I do think that if I lived in a warmer zone, I would be growing some of the varieties that have variegated leaves; I think that they are stunning. I have both Veronica Waterperry Blue and V. Georgia Blue and have found them to be good groundcovers as well, spreading, but not pushy. Cranberries make a great groundcover in ordinary garden soil and provide a shiny, fine texture along with the tiny pink early summer flowers and huge berries that last until spring. In my experience all of them are happy in full sun to about 2/3 shade. ________________________________________________________________________ Posted by mayalena 6 - MetroWest Boston (My Page) on Wed, Sep 21, 11 at 6:05 Hi Katy. I am in a tiarella phase. I love the shape and color of the foliage and the wonderful early summerish bloom. I want masses of it everywhere. I have several cultivars. The ones with the prettiest red-streaked, cut foliage are clumpers, so maybe not really groundcovers. The plainer green ones, 'wherryi', spread by runners. There must be a combo of prettier foliage and spreading, but I haven't done the research. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by diggingthedirt CapeCod Zone7ish (My Page) on Wed, Sep 21, 11 at 12:13 I have a half dozen varieties of asarum - some of the variegated ones are actually not asarum, but its close relatives - I've lost track of what's what. It takes a few years to get established but spreads nicely after that, at least here in zone 7. I find A. europeaeum popping up all over, not too far from the clumps I've planted. Marie has the mother of all A. europeaeum plants, with unusually big leaves. She gave me a clump a few years ago, and its leaves are definitely bigger than my other "straight" A. e. plants. I have a lot of dianthus, and especially like the silver foliage of cottage pinks. The others (green-leaved varieties) tend to pop up in pavement, but for some reason this doesn't bother me much. For sunny spots, I also love the compact thymes - I collect those and some do really nicely. The bigger ones tend to be obnoxious here - lots of self-sowing and climbing up the trunks of perennials nearby, so I'm trying to root them out everywhere except in the lawn. I used to use a lot of tunica (which now has the unlovely moniker Petrorhagia saxifraga) but it isn't as reliable a self-seeder as I thought, and it seems to be hard to find. Lovely light, bright green, feathery foliage and tiny baby's breath flowers - no idea why it isn't more popular. Maybe it doesn't classify as a ground cover -it's more of a very short perennial, since it dies back in winter? ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by pixie_lou 5 (My Page) on Wed, Sep 21, 11 at 13:08 Not traditional ground covers, but I'm using a few varieties of mint as ground covers in some of my gardens. Peppermint and Lemon Balm in particular. They look nice, they smell nice, and as an added bonus, I harvest the leaves for tea. In my front white garden, I planted a bunch of carpet of snow alyssum this year - with the hopes that it will self sow for next year. It has self sown in other (unwanted) places in my garden - so hopefully this year it will self sow in an area that I want it! The only traditional ground cover I have is Vinca Minor. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by carl18 z6 NJ (My Page) on Wed, Sep 21, 11 at 13:27 Does your obsession with Asarum suggest you are only looking for shade groundcovers? I once admired a splendid bed of Asarum in someones' garden, only to learn it had taken over a decade to look that way, which promptly discouraged me from replicating such a look in my own garden. For sheer ease of creating - and an excellent flush of Spring bloom - it's hard to beat Vinca minor. . .and I even have success with it in full sun. Gallium odoratum creates a wonderful carpet in several spots here, but sometimes can look "tatty" at the end of summer (like this year) and does not, of course, stay evergreen - but it certainly surges back in the Spring and spreads easily if the soil is amenable. Contrary to popular opinion, my bed of Aegopodium thriving under an old silver maple is a joy, easily rejuvenated in August with a quick mowing and it bounces back until frost; the flowers are beautiful and substantial, and it's infamous "running" habit is just something you have to be aware of and prevent. On one open slope in shade with occasional shrubs, I have found a bed of Euonymus has worked well, and it is easily pruned back at any time if it overruns it's space - NOT a good groundcover in which to sprinkle perrennials, which will not prevail. Tried Lamium many times, but with zero success; Lamiastrum, on the other hand, has taken off and created a lovely bed. While I very much like the look and bloom of Ajuga, it seems not to be happy here, so only a small patch remains. In the sun, my two happiest experiences have been with Iberis - those 
brilliant white mats in Spring are breathtaking, and most of the minor 
bulbs can be planted underneath it - and Sedum 'Angelina', startling chartreuse carpets that take on reddish tones over the winter. Finally, these past two seasons I've helped a friend in Philadelphia create 
a full-blown bed, not just a border, of Liriope, mostly the green-leaved 
varieties, but with a few variegated plants randomly mixed in; for added 
contrast, there is one Carex "Bowles Golden", and several Hemerocallis 
"Happy Days". . .the effect is quite lush and handsome, especially with all 
the Liriope now in bloom, but the downside is having to cut EVERYTHING 
back in the Spring. . .just another gardening trade-off! Carl ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by wendyb 5A/MA (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 0:11 My European ginger took a few years to get going and now it is filling in fast and has a nice effect. Its in full moist shade. It's nice, but doesn't get me going. Galax urceolata has fizzled. I liked it better than Asarum, but it didn't like me as much. Nearby is Mukdenia 'Crimson Fans'. It also took several years to get going, but worth the wait. There is another cultivar I recently read about whose name escapes me but it sounded interesting. A nice evergreen groundcover is Paxistma Canbyi. Tiny cute dark foliage. Spreads at a reasonable pace. part-shade. Ditto Veronica Waterperry. Love love love Geranium macrorrhizum 'Variegata'. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by Rubby none (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 9:06 I am a Mass. Certified Horticulturist and worked at a nursery in Southern Mass for many, many years. One of the key crops of the nursery was alpine groundcovers. "Steppables" was our main marketing tool. A couple of my favorites were Ajuga "Chocolate Chip" (Dwarf Bugleweed), Gypsophila cerastoides (Crawling Baby's Breath, Isotoma fluviatilis (Blue Star Creeper), Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides (Variegated Pennywort) and we can't forget the beautiful blue flowers of Ceratostigma plumbaginoides (Blue Plumbago). I love good spreading tight foliage with the added bonus of long lasting beautiful flowers. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by Rubby 6 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 9:12 But I did forget the best of all. Mazus reptans "Purple". Just look at it....... ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by debra_boston Zone 5 - Boston (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 11:09 Lovely thread, Runktrun! Enjoying it immensely. Looked up a bunch of the plants mentioned and I can see that I will be purchasing (or asking for them at swaps) in the very near future. I think, as I begin to see how physical limitations will severely curtail my gardening activities in the future, some of these plants will delight me in that I can count on them year after year with little to no maintenance. I especially love that they can be used, for the most part, with bulbs, so that when Spring finally arrives, as we agonizingly wait for it, we will be treated to a riot of color and aroma from these first blooms of the spring. Here in Zone 5 Massachusetts, at the end of winter, you are dying to see anything green, including grass! A ground cover which reliably blooms and surrounds bulbs would be a joy, as the only thing currently surrounding my spring bulbs is brown dead leaves, or last year's mulch! LOL Rubby that photo of Mazus Reptans purple is gorgeous. You are an "enabler!" Thanks for posting. Don't let me stop you. As the British say, Carry On! Debra ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by Rubby 6 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 16:15 Debra, the nursery I worked at was called Quansett Nurseries. Located in South Dartmouth, MA. If you visit this link, ……… , it will take you to their grouncover page. (Note that I took all of the pictures during the many years I was there. Quansett supplies many of the Garden Centers throughout New England. You could special request them through your garden center and they will order them from Quansett for you. Here is a link that might be useful: Quansett Nurseries Groundcovers ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by silvergirl426 (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 19:20 I too have common asarum European. I have it in clumps, all in different shade places, all divisions from a plant originally given as a gift from WFF. As everyone else has said, it does not spread fast, but the foliage is so rounded and rich -- my library has a huge clump more or less in the sun, so go figure. I am loving the phlox subulata -- now that they have developed some more tepid, accomodating colors. I tuck it everywhere, as it blooms so early in spring when we are just dying for color and blooms. I shy away from that brilliant magenta -- I heard that patches of it can be identified from the satellites of Google Earth! 
lucia ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by diggingthedirt CapeCod Zone7ish (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 19:37 Funny you should mention sedum, Carl - after I posted I was outside admiring a bed full of low varieties of this plant. No idea what varieties I've got, but it's a very adaptable plant - the area where I have the low growing ones doesn't get much sun at all. The bed is at the base of a stone wall, and is a bit of a hodge-podge, but all sedum; no weeding needed! I also like variegated Liriope - it's especially nice planted near Bergenia (love the common name, which is pigsqueak) because of the contrast between the foliage of the two (pigsqueak has fat, slightly fleshy, rounded, reddish leaves, and the Liriope is at the other extreme for texture, shape,, and color). Lucia - I haven't planted Phlox subulata for the reason you mentioned. In my part of the state, there are a lot of people who have big patches of this plant, and nothing else (besides lawn) in their yards. In some neighborhoods, at a certain time of year, it's positively blinding. It hadn't occurred to me that it could also be available in less glaring colors - maybe I'll give it a try. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by ginny12 z5 MA (My Page) on Thu, Sep 22, 11 at 19:40 Groundcovers are wonderful but as always, it's the principle of right plant, right place. I tried and failed with European ginger for many years--soil was too moisture-retentive and chilly in winter. And those "steppables", a commercial term, are great in hot sunny areas but most do not do well elsewhere. As with most things in gardening, we need to study our growing conditions before falling in love with a plant. Like others here, I am looking towards lower maintenance so groundcovers have a renewed appeal for me. I have a spread of silver-leaf pachysandra that is truly striking (and slow-growing) and zero care except for pulling out the occasional all-green leaf. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by wendyb 5A/MA (My Page) on Fri, Sep 23, 11 at 8:02 Ginny, do you mean the native pachysandra procumbens? I have that too and I love it. It is barely semi-evergreen here. THis year I didn't bother cutting back the old declining foliage and it was unattractive for a short bit, but I got over it while the new filled in. The spring blooms are very delicate. That's interesting about Euro Ginger and moisture. Mine is in a very moist area and does nicely ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by leslie6ri (My Page) on Fri, Sep 23, 11 at 11:04 I agree with the recommendations for the creeping Veronicas. I have 'Georgia Blue' and 'Waterperry Blue', and will try 'Blue Reflection' next Spring. Both Georgia and Waterperry look good even when not it bloom. So far, I'm happy with Ajuga 'Chocolate Chip'. I also like some Lamium for a shady spot. They can be aggressive, I guess, but do brighten up a dark corner and will grow in difficult sites. I bought one called 'Anne Greenway' from Home Depot that looked great, --much better than it does it photos. I killed it, sigh. Hard to believe, but I did. (I really want to blame Home Depot, but...) And Gautheria procumbens is a nice native. It needs acidic soil, but I've got two that are doing well. Little white bell flowers and red fruit. Not showy, but it is a New Englander. I have some Phlox stolonifera --'Bruce's White' and 'Sherwood Purple' that may be nice. They were lost in deep shade and I finally got around to moving them. They may be lovely, but I won't really know until next year... Great thread. Lots to consider for my garden. Asarum, Tiarella, creeping thymes, Dianthus (fragrant ones!)... I have no idea about tunica; will look it up. Blue plumbago! Love those blue flowers. Mazus reptans (beautiful photo!). ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by Rubby 6 (My Page) on Fri, Sep 23, 11 at 16:01 I try my best to stay away from Home Depot. Although they have color and their prices are cheap, all they do is strangle the "true" garden centers and the people that actually care about your garden. It's a dying breed and Home Depot is kicking them while they are down..... ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by ginny12 z5 MA (My Page) on Fri, Sep 23, 11 at 18:16 The silver-edge pachysandra is the evergreen Japanese Pachysandra terminalis, Wendy. Beautiful year round. This cultivar has a white edge--very striking with variegated hostas, Japanese Solomon's seal etc. Very slow-growing compared to the all-green variety. Must say I love "regular" pachysandra too, especially in large curving swathes. I know a lot of people turn their noses up at it and I don't know why. Especially in an area full of tree roots, it's a wonderful textural effect and horticultural solution. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by molie z6 CT (My Page) on Fri, Sep 23, 11 at 22:33 Thanks all! I've been writing down many plants to remind myself next spring. Mazus reptans was always one of my mother's favorites that I had forgotten to include the last few years. Your photo is a great reminder, Rubby! You also mentioned Isotoma 'Blue Star Creeper.' I planted that this summer and it's really taken off and is still filling out with tiny blue flowers. And yes, Iberis is such a warm strinking white in the spring! I was encouraged to read about Gautheria procubens, a plant my husband has always admired. I should find a spot for that and then be patient, it seems. No one mentioned Houttuynia. I've always thought the colors and form striking but have been afraid to plant it because I've heard it goes wild. Is that true? This spring I moved my variegated Lirope into more sun and they are fantastic. I've never had so many tall blooms as this year. At a local garden center (I also prefer those to the big box stores though I certainly have bought things at Home Depot, etc.) I did find a very strange, tiny little creeper called Leptinella 'Platt's Black.' You hardly notice it at first because the leaves are brown like the dirt but with a bright green at the tips. It spreads along and forms a dense mat, like a moss crossed with a fern, and has crept between the stones leading to the garden shed. Molie ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by runktrun z7a MA (My Page) on Sat, Sep 24, 11 at 9:44 I was so excited by the responses yesterday regardless of a good steady rainfall I ran off to one nursery and picked up Veronica prostrate 'Aztec Gold' and Veronica spicata 'Blue Carpet'. The tag describes V 'Aztec Gold' as A Terra Nova introduction, displaying sunproof brilliant gold foliage that spreads into congested mats. Coupled with Bavarian blue flowers in late spring. It makes a masterful combination. I am back out today on the prowl for ground covers so I quickly made a list of suggested plants to bring along with me. If I missed adding any suggested plants to the list it was unintentional so please feel free to make any corrections. Thanks kt 1. Veronica Waterperry Blue, Georgia Blue and Blue Reflection 
2. Asarum europeaum 
3. Asarum canadense 
4. Veronica Georgia Blue 
5. Cranberries 
6. Tiarella 
7. Variegated Asarums 
8. Dianthus � cottage pinks 
9. Thyme 
10. Tunica (Petrorhagia saxifrage) 
11. Vinca minor 
12. Gallium odoratum 
13. Aegopodium 
14. Lamiastrum 
15. Lamium 
16. Iberis 
17. Sedum 'Angelina' 
18. Liriope 
19. Galax urceolata 
20. Mukdenia 'Crimson Fans' 
21. Paxistma Canbyi 
22. Geranium macrorrhizum 'Variegata' 
23. Ajuga 'Chocolate Chip' 
24. Gypsophila cerastoides 
25. Isotoma fluviatilis 
26. Hydrocotyle sibthorpiodes 
27. Ceratostigma plumbaginoides 
28. Mazus reptans �Purple� 
29. Carpet of snow alyssum 
30. phlox subulata 
31. Bergenia (love the common name, which is pigsqueak) 
32. Lamium'Anne Greenway' 
33. Gautheria procumbens 
34. Pachysandra terminalis 
35. "regular" pachysandra 
36. Leptinella 'Platt's Black.' ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by wendyb 5A/MA (My Page) on Sat, Sep 24, 11 at 10:18 Good luck with V. 'Aztec Gold'. I hope its improved over my V. 'Goldwell'. I'm still waiting for the spreading mat or any blooms. I've tried 2 locations. That's a good list to carry around. Thanks for publishing that. I wish we could rate them 1-5 and show an aggregate User Rating and then sort by User Rating. Hmmm, that would be a good exercise for my website development training. Could also use a column for sun/shade/pt-sh too. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by molie z6 CT (My Page) on Sat, Sep 24, 11 at 18:36 I copied and saved the list and was going to add my own notes next to the names. Wendy, you have a great idea about rating the plants as to opinions, sun vs. shade, flowers and growth habits or even the zones in which they are grown. Website development is way beyond me! I also thought of one new groundcover I forgot to add to my list. It's Thymus 'Highland Cream' which has cream-edged foliage. It flowers pink, stays low, and grows slowly. I have it between paving stones. Molie ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by diggerdee z6 CT (My Page) on Sun, Sep 25, 11 at 20:24 I love groundcovers! I think I have tried almost every one I have ever come across, lol. That's quite a list there - everything from ground-creepers to taller ones. I have not, however, tried asarum because it is rather pricey and spreads so slowly. I've tried lamium and just have no luck with it. Love it, but it sadly does not love me. I also killed off Anne Greenaway... three times. The one that held on the longest was White Nancy, which looked wonderful in spring under blue hostas, but it is fading fast. I even killed off ajugas, except for a plain ol' variety I got at a swap. I love it in the hosta bed its in, and keep an eye on it when it wants to escape. Speaking of escaping, I am also loving Golden Creeping Jenny. I have it in a small (about 4' x 2') bed surrounded by a sidewalk, a brick patio, and a driveway. Figured it was safe to try there! I also have the Georgia Blue Veronica. I got some at a swap and wasn't aware it was a groundcover. But it is lovely in spring, and spreads nicely without being overly aggressive. I am planning on moving it out of its bed and putting it in place of the blue creeping phlox that I've supplemented for ten years and am finally giving up on. Did I mention I tried phlox?... maybe I should get a few tips from the folks at the local Wendy's. They have an amazingly beautiful swath of it. Sedums - wonderful! I've got kamschaticum planted on a slope, put there by mistake when I thought I was buying and adding to my Westeinphaler (sp??) Gold. So I have half WG and half kam. I like both, and will just separate and add to each. Wonderful foliage, takes abuse, needs no care, nice carpet, pretty flowers, nice winter interest. What more can you ask for? I also love chrysogonum. I have Pierre, which really forms a nice mat with cheerful yellow flowers in spring. Tried gaultheria procumbens several times and just can't get it to grow - too expensive to keep trying. Also a big fan of sweet woodruff, iberis, and yes, pachysandra. I don't know why so many people dismiss pachysandra. It really does have a beautiful leaf, is so low maintenance and easy, grows in lots of situations, and stays evergreen. What's not to like? I guess it's dismissed because its so common, but I have to put in a vote for it. There are one or two on that list I have not tried... yet... Dee ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by nhbabs z4b-5a NH (My Page) on Sun, Sep 25, 11 at 21:22 I hate to tell you, Katy, but most Veronicas that I have grown are messy plants, ranging from pretty to stunning when in bloom and a liability when not. Veronica prostrata and Veronica spicata are both species I have grown and though I still have one of them (can't remember which off the top of my head) I am considering shovel pruning it. The gorgeous blue for 2 weeks doesn't make up for the tangled sprawl the rest of the year. V. peduncularis includes both Waterperry Blue and Georgia Blue, and I like this species. As mentioned above, it looks nice even when not in bloom. It coexists well with others while spreading well and has very nice flowers that cover the plant in midspring. The texture is much less coarse than any other Veronica I have grown. Astilbe chinensis pumila is a great ground cover for shade since it grows densely enough that there is no problem with weeds invading, but it only spreads slowly. It has typical astilbe leaves, but a bit smaller with quite short stems. Mine is about 4 inches tall except when it blooms (August & September) with slightly mauvy pink blooms. I have it in a bed with hosta and it fills in where the hostas don't completely block out light. One more groundcover for shade that I love is a native, partridge berry, Mitchella repens. It has tiny round dark green leaves with whitish veins, white flowers in spring, and bright red berries that are larger than the leaves and frequently last all winter. It likes shade and spreads, but is never obnoxious; very neat and totally ground-hugging. Wendy - if you can put a groundcover survey on the web, that would be great! I'd fill out my views of the ones that I have grown. You might want to add a column for hardiness since there are several of these that I probably can't grow. Having a good combination of opinions would be such a great source of available info. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by molie z6 CT (My Page) on Mon, Sep 26, 11 at 18:33 I second the suggestion to put my views of groundcovers on the web especially as they relate to hardiness. ____________________________________________________________________________ Posted by claire z6b Coastal MA (My Page) on Tue, Sep 27, 11 at 17:30 All sorts of wonderful groundcovers mentioned here. I'd just like to put in a plug for the various ornamental strawberries and the native Virginia strawberry (Fragaria virginiana). Pretty little flowers and even some fruit if the critters don't get there first. A very informal groundcover that spreads happily but is easily controlled. Claire ____________________________________________________________________________

Thanks to ChrisMD on the MidAtlantic Gardening forum for saving this great thread mentioning a range of lesser-known plants for fall color. * Posted by david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 8:39 I love fall in the garden, the asters, grasses, goldenrods, boltonias, anemones...all at peak. But along with all these common fall plants there are a couple of treasures, "unsung heroes" that more people should grow. The first is Caryopteris divaricata. Though related to the common shrubby caryopteris, this is a true herbaceous plant. It looks like a large salvia, maing a 4' mass of foliage all season which stands up straight and holds its place in the garden. Then in the fall, it makes a cloud of these way-cool orchid like flowers. The boss of stamens at the top makes an arch over the flowers, which are much showier than the standard shrubby caryopteris, at least individually. The plant needs to be planted where you can enjoy the flowers up close. The second plant I just love and rarely see is Chelone lyonii 'Hot Lips'. The turtleheads are all wonderful garden plants, they possess a great quiet beauty and toughness. I also grow C. obliqua which is very nice. But 'Hot lips' has such great foliage, almost a blackish green. Even in this hot dry year, the plant has the presence of a fine shrub throughout the garden season with its pristine dark foliage. And it has been blooming for weeks now. So do you have an "unsung hero" for the fall garden? * Posted by: tewk21 z6 NJ on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 9:21 At this time of year I really relish my cimifuga stand. I have a couple of varieties in a bunch and the profusion of bottlebrushes above the dense black green foliage is striking. * Posted by: gardenbug Canada zone 5 on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 9:52 I am enjoying cimicifugas, anemones (white, pink and bright pink), keringeshoma palmata, many grasses, ferns, cyclamen, "naked ladies" also known as colchicums, gaura in pink and white, pink turtlehead, hydrangea Kiushu and that wonderful dark purple ironweed (vernonia). The berries on the Jack in the Pulpits are amazing this year. I am not happy with my weeping caryopteris and need to check out yours David. I wonder if it is hardy up here in USDA 4? Do you have a picture? * Posted by: Marieluise Zone 4-4b on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 10:27 I have both Caryopteris Longwood Blue and one other (can't think of name now but has lime green leaves) and they are both blooming. The best ever this year. My Russian Sage has been going strong and so have my two butterfly bushes. My Kirengsoma unforunately although it has lots of blooms, they are turning brown and falling off. The drought I guess and we did not water very much this year. Pink turtlehead, guara, plumbago and the cone flowers. Plus Chocolate Boneset has flower heads and my Sweet Autumn Clematis might bloom before Christmas! * Posted by: NancyD 5/6 Rochester, NY on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 10:49 Thanks for sharing. I'm always looking for more fall plants. I have the chelone, but never heard of that caryopteris variety. The one I recommend is not a perennial, but a lovely shrub called Lespedeza or common name, bush clover. Abundant, small pea-like flowers in shades of white, pink or purple. Much needed this time of year. If you have the space I highly recommend it. Not extremely cold tolerant, but does fine for me. * Posted by: Dicentra SE PA z6B on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 11:09 I absolutely LOVE my caryopteris sub-shrubs! I have the 'Blue Mist' variety and they get better with each passing year. My panicum grass 'Dalla Blues' is starting to send out plumes and it's quite striking with the blue-tinted blades. Gaura is a newbie one for me and I love the pinkish 'butterflies' which seem to float right at the stem tips. My yellow butterfly bushes ususally bloom well into November here...I don't think I could garden without them...lol. And a plug for trees...Kousa Dogwood is splended with those long-lasting flowers and now red fruits...very appealing (although messy). * Posted by: Teri2 6/7 TN on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 11:35 I thought Lespedeza was considered invasive via seed dispersion. Correct me if I'm wrong; that's just lodged in my memory somehow. My unsung fall hero is the annual vine, Cardiospermum (Love in a Puff). Mine is just now covering itself with teeny, tiny white flowers which will morph into large, papery, tan puffs. I have mine on a trellis against the wall but I've also had fun with volunteers climbing over shrubs that would otherwise be boring by this time. * Posted by: wanda Z9 CA on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 11:46 My garden is full of Salvias going into bloom this time of year. Lots of blue , purple, red and some yellow & white. Thunbergia greggori is also putting on a show. The Anemones are starting to open. A real show stopper is the Ruellia brittonia which is going gangbusters with non-stop purple flowers. I also have a new to me plant that I got this spring, Spiranthes, which is starting to open. Trachelium is another neat fall bloomer and Aster frikartii. * Posted by: yogagal 5-Northern IL on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 11:52 The native woodland aster, Aster divaricatus, is totally underused in the fall shade garden. It spreads slowly as a groundcover, the leaves always look clean and are never ratty, and in the fall it's covered with a ton of white flowers on dark, wirey, stems about 12" above the foliage. Good mix with ferns or heuchera. * Posted by: maine_gardener Z4 Me on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 13:01 I have to add one more for the fall it does prefer partly shade . Toad Lilys. Mine are just starting to open. * Posted by: gardenbug Canada zone 5 on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 13:13 The turtleheads are so neat and not bothered a bit by insects. I also love verbena bonariensis at this time with the grasses and Russian Sage too. A few clematis are still adding color to the garden as well. * Posted by: Kevin_5 z5 on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 13:30 I have Phlox 'David' in full fragrant bloom now--not sure if that is its normal bloom time or if planting small plants in spring caused it to be delayed. Either way, a nice plant. I second Kirengeshoma, just opening here. Not to forget trees, as Franklinia and Heptacodium are blooming like mad with superior fragrance. * Posted by: buxusareyou z6 NC on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 16:11 Hey David, How 'bout the pungent scent of the foliage of Caryopteris divaricata? Brush against it and, phew... what is it remniscent of? A real conversation piece! Lovely species. * Posted by: Taba z5b MO on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 16:15 Great thread. Lots of good ideas. I'm so tired of mums and asters at all the garden centers. I love fall-blooming bulbs - not sure how little-known they are. Last year I planted an assortment of fall-blooming crocus and colchium and they were gorgeous. Some very late blooms. They aren't up yet here but I saw lots of them yesterday at a local public garden. Not sure if I should be concerned about mine or not! Time will tell. * Posted by: Chelone z6 so. Maine on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 16:43 Hear, hear! for Chelone. Don't miss out on Chelone obliqua and Chelone glabra. I prefer both to the more commonly available lyonii. This is a plant that has rather "gone out of favor" over the years as showier plants have arrived on the scene. It is wonderful in combination with Dicentra spectabilis, Hostas, FERNS, and (I'm told) Aconitums. I have no disease troubles and only an occasional nibble on its leaves. Chelone glabra is a native wildflower in my region of the country and it is truly breathtaking at nearly 4'H in a moist area! I adore Cimicifugas, Kirengeshoma palmata, and Dictamnus. Another overlooked plant is Hibiscus. OUTSTANDING! * Posted by: blazingstar z8GA on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 19:29 Your Caryopteris looks alot like my Blue Butterflies (Clerodenrum ugandese). I think like Barry Glick, that somebody must have missnamed it. My bush has square stems, the leaves are bigger than yours though, but I just went out and crushed a leaf, and it stinks too. I bought it this spring and it has been blooming ever since, no signs of it letting up either. As far as I have been told, it will come back from the roots here in zone 8. Bumblebees go crazy over it, but they have to climb over the flower to the back somehow, to get the nectar. They might be the only ones that can get to it. Very interesting, check it out. * Posted by: Kevin_5 z5 on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 20:02 The Franklinia has been through one winter, with a low of 18 below. No damage from the winter. It leafed out then got whacked by a 24 degree freeze in late May, which caused tips to die back, but it releafed and is covered in flower buds/flowers. So far, a tough tree! * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 20:44 Hey blazingstar - you're right!!! the flowers of Caryopteris divaricata do look a LOT like Clereodendrum ugandense. Same exact flower form, I always had the sense that I had seen this one before. It's uncanny, they must be adapted to the same pollinator - a bumblebee hunchback perhaps. * Posted by: NotEnoughRoses 7b/NTX on Fri, Sep 13, 02 at 22:13 Tagetes lucida (Mexican Mint Marigold) and Compositae Tagetes lemmonii (Copper Canyon Daisy) are my two favorites. Malvaviscus drummondii (Turk's Cap) blooms straight through from summer til first frost. Salvia greggii (another that blooms all season to the first frost) Reblooming irises... Cassia lindheimeri (Velvet leaf senna) Grasses - Muhlenbergia capillaris and Muhlenbergia filipes (natives) and Pennisetum alopecuroides 'Moudry' (new favorite from last fall - highlight of October garden tour). Shrubs - Encore azaleas started blooming last week. If this year is anything like last, they will bloom off and on through spring. Camellias... Roses here are incredible in the fall - almost as good as the spring flush. I grow 100+ roses - mostly antiques - Duchesse de Brabant is one of the best for fall bloom. Also love Belinda's Dream. Not uncommon to have a few roses still going at Christmas time. (Maggie, a 'found' rose, and Anna de Diesbach were both blooming last 12-25.) ~ Suzie * Posted by: Taryn S Ontario Z6B on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 0:16 David, what an informative thread. I have a question about your Chelone pic; is the photo true to the actual colour of the plant? I'm asking because it looks awfully much like my pink Chelone, but I wouldn't describe the leaves on mine as blackish green. Deep, deep green, and resistant to almost anything, with regular watering. This plant was here when we bought the home in April of '98, and is now a scrumptious 4'X4' mound, and has been blooming for several weeks now. I have spread it about to a couple of other locations as well. I thought it was C. obliqua, but whatever it is, I adore it! My newly found favourite fall-blooming perennial is Patrinia scabiosifolia, or 'Golden Lace'. I grew this from seed in the winter of 2001, and am thrilled with the delicate, airy heads of lemon yellow blooms. I will put Verbena bonariensis with it next season, will be a knockout fall combo. Thanks for a great read... * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 7:46 The picture of chelone 'Hot lips' is absolutely true to color except the flowers look more washed out in the picture. In 'real life' the flowers are more of a rich rose pink. The foliage IS that rich blackish gray green, even richer than shown in the photo. That's why I say it had a strong presence in the garden through the summer as a foliage plant. A really good garden selection. * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 19:31 A valuable thread. After a long hot summer everyone loves fall and this season has some of the best performers. I also love caryopteris and patrinia and chelone and cimicifuga. Asters and mums of course are better known. (David I lost my Franklinia here in zone 9--it toppled during the fall typhoon season and never recovered.) The sedums are well known but my absolute favorite is a ground cover, s. pluricaule, which starts blooming for me in early September and will go on for many weeks. It is hardy to zone 3. * Posted by: penney5 6 on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 19:48 My favorite plant in fall: Eupatorium coelestinum aka mistflower(why doesn't everyone grow this?) What else is blooming right now here(zone5/6) Rudbeckia triloba Salvia azurea Anemones Datura innoxia Malvia moschata Buddleias China aster (annual) And still to flower: Boltonia asteroides Toad lilies Hardy pink chrysanthemum * Posted by: Geranium Z5/MA on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 21:52 Ah - someone has finaly mentioned Boltonia. The wispy pink variety has been bloming for several weeks, but the white B. 'Snowbank' is just coming out. I have it planted among ornamental grasses and also at the back of a long border with New England Asters and Sedums. One of the last things to bloom for me is Aster tartaricus, often as late as early November. For the front of the garden, I love the Alliums - especially A. senescens glaucum (the Curly Chive) and A. thunbergii 'Ozawa', an October bloomer. The former is in full bloom now and will go on for weeks. * Posted by: gardenbug Canada zone 5 on Sat, Sep 14, 02 at 22:50 I forgot to mention corydalis. I have 'lutea', the longest blooming plant on earth I firmly believe. I also have the lavender flowered form blooming still. Both nice in different areas. * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 4:48 Chelone, I'm glad you mentioned acontium. I was just in the garden today--finally a break in the heat--and noticed my acontiums don't even have buds, that's how late they bloom for me. There are spring-flowering species too, so check first. For you blue lovers, aconitum is outstanding. * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 11:21 Well, how 'bout a few more. No one has mentioned cyclamen hederifolium, it is one of the joys of the fall garden, just emerging now. And leadwort, ceratostigma plumbaginoides, is now coming into full bloom. One of the few plants which actually excels in dry shade, and rose red fall color next month adds to the show Last for now is perhaps my favorite (well, OK, one of my favorites) plant of fall, the fabulous soft yellow daisy helianthus 'Lemon Queen'. Tough and easily grown, 7' tall in lean soil with no staking, though some of mine do flop down (so you can appreciate the soft color of the flowers. Blooms a solid 6 weeks, now at peak . * Posted by: Storygardener 5/6 central oh on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 11:35 These ideas are GREAT. Don't forget eupatorium rogosa chocolate - with it's dark foliage and pretty white flowers! * Posted by: chouchou z5b ONT on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 14:38 I'm in love with my agastache rupestris right now. I like everything about this plant; foliage, flowers and scent. My "Pamina" anemone is beautiful too and it is such a well-behaved anemone - stays where I put it. "Alma Potschke" aster is just beginning its very vivid display, in spite of the relentless drought it has had to endure this season. * Posted by: ChrisMD 7 on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 15:47 I am very interested in Heleniums. 3 to 6 foot plants topped with clusters of quarter sized flowers in yellows, golds and reds. As with so many other native American plants, it seems that most of the cultivars have been bred in Europe and are not available yet here in the US. * Posted by: Bejoy PNW8 on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 16:03 WOW! Great ideas here for fall flowering plants. Never heard of many of them. Guess I will go hunting. I have Coreopsis , Rudbekia, Allium, Roses, Butterfly bushes, Blackberry Lilies, Hardy Aster, Violas and Pansies, Geraniums, Stell D' Oro and some foxglove still blooming. My Kaffir lily is in bud so will be blooming soon too. These are commonly grown ones..but I love their blooms. * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 17:12 I'm right there with Chris, I LOVE heleniums too. Mine are just going by now, didn't get any great pics this year, but love the rust/orange ones. I am also with chouchou. My favorite jap anemone is Pamina too, and I love the way Agastache rupestris just finds its own spot. This one just seeded here, it's not 'supposed' to be there, but makes a nice contrast with the tight form of Buxus 'Graham Blandy' And being a geranium nut, I have to show a geranium which I believe will be a great fall plant (and summer too), that being the new geranium 'Rozanne'. It has the wonderful marbled foliage and long late bloom of 'Buxton's Variety, its parent, without being quite so fussy. The flowers are getting more blue as the weather cools. * Posted by: Yondertree Oregon coast on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 21:56 My favorite salvia, S. darcyi, is at its peak now, a cheery tall red that simply clicks all the colors of the garden together around it. It reconciles the Rudbekia and the Penstamon with the Japanese Anemone, amazing. The foliage has a lovely lemony fragrance when you brush against it. It made it through last winter, but I will save a few cuttings this year to be sure to have it again. * Posted by: gardenbug Canada zone 5 on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 23:17 Now David, I did mention cyclamen way back at the start. I love them so much...grew them from seed. I agree with all of Chouchou's choices too. My blue lobelias are blooming nicely now also and look nice near the pink turtlehead. The cardinal flowers are also still blooming away in another area. * Posted by: Taryn S Ontario Z6B on Sun, Sep 15, 02 at 23:25 Yes, Cyclamen hederifolium is wonderful when it's happily placed. Likes my dry shade. I've got 'Cyclamen-leaved Violet' (Viola koreana 'Syletta') going like gangbusters in the greenhouse, which I hope will give me the wonderful silver-embossed foliage for more of the season than the cyclamen does. * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Mon, Sep 16, 02 at 7:20 Taba, I like the fall-blooming bulbs too but if you like a tidy garden, watch out. The foliage from colchicums, for example, stays nice and green all winter, then begins to yellow in spring. And it takes its sweet time too. Sterbergia is my favorite since the foliage, which is bright green and strappy all winter, disappears without a whole lot of fuss in spring. If you plant them now they will bloom in a couple of weeks. * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Mon, Sep 16, 02 at 9:19 Once you get over the inaccurate catalog description, Heteropappus 'Blue Knoll' is an attractive aster-like annual/?perennial (it should have been named 'Pale Lavender Knoll'). I also like Patrinia scabiosifolia, a great late summer and fall perennial which also has some purplish foliage color as the weather cools. And Panicum 'Dallas Blues' is in full flower here. Hoping for good foliage color later in the season. * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Mon, Sep 16, 02 at 9:39 Hey Andy, Sterbergia is lovely! Never heard of it. Do you know anything about hardiness? And how about it getting eaten by mice/voles? I plant lots of crocus in my garden including the autumn forms, but they don't last since I suspect they get eaten. I like colchicums too but I am not a fan of the foliage as you rightly point out. You need to plant them near the front of a border to see them, and the foliage is so ugly in late spring. * Posted by: Dicentra SE PA z6B on Mon, Sep 16, 02 at 10:29 Forgot to mention...Fall Crocus! Found the beauties blooming away now in the garden :) * Posted by: sbeuerlein on Mon, Sep 16, 02 at 11:25 Solidago rugosum "Fireworks" is a really terrific cultivar, just starting its show. Anemone x japonica "Bressingham Glow" is a very nice plant. Callicarpa berries are just turning now too, very nice. * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 10:46 One other Caryopteris that should be grown more is C. incana, which has blue and white-flowered varieties. It's rated hardy only to zone 7, but can be raised from seed to flower by early September of the same year. Great fall bloomer, probably would be a knockout planted with Patrinia. * Posted by: buxusareyou z6 NC on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 11:06 David - Sternbergia is probably a tad tender (Zone 6 - my guess) for you. But you should give it a go, nevertheless. The late William Hunt who gardened and wrote about gardening for years in Chapel Hill, NC had thousands of these flowering in the fall. It was quite a sight! * Posted by: spec4lover z7 VA on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 11:27 For years, ajania was incorrectly classified as a chrysanthemum. I think the leaves are much more interesting, though. It will bloom here in October. A link to blooms is given below. Today, my cannas are providing a lot of color in the yard, as are the reblooming daylilies and the crape myrtles. The caryopteris are almost finished, sadly, but the buddleia keep on going due to deadheading. Lavenders are in varying stages of bloom in my yard, with the Musteads in full or slightly past full bloom and the Provence and other larger ones still in bud. Chaste trees can also provide some color at this time of year, if they are cut back after the first bloom. (I had both the blue and white blooming at this time last year, but am saving the seed this year, so...no blooms.) My hydrangea paniculatas, especially the Tardiva, are providing some color to the yard, too. And as others have said, the lovely toadlilies or Tricyrtis have yet to bloom--that's another for October. * Posted by: Teri2 6/7 TN on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 15:11 David - I never know how many of my spring crocus will return either so I don't plan on any. I just replant every year. Same with Sternbergia in the fall. They're a little pricier so I can't plant too many but I do put a dozen or so in an easily visible spot. For me, they provide the thrill of fresh, new growth at a time when the rest of the garden is beautiful but bittersweet. * Posted by: Taba z5b MO on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 16:10 My Colchicum Rose and Giant are finally shooting up. The foliage is a bit untidy and yellow in spring, but I like the bit of green in winter. I haven't tried Sternbergia and it's a bit too late for this fall so maybe next year. It does look really lovely. Lots of great ideas in this thread. I'll add it to the FAQ so it doesn't disappear off GW. So who has a great picture of an unusual fall-blooming plant? (Something you took yourself and would like to donate for the FAQ.) * Posted by: ladybug6a 6a ontario on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 22:52 You all forgot Solidago (Golden rod). I just love the yellow with the commen Aster. * Posted by: Taryn S Ontario Z6B on Fri, Sep 27, 02 at 23:11 LOL Ladybug! The post was about 'little known' fall bloomers. I would say that many of us know the common Asters and Golden Rod, though there are some nice cultivars out there. Many who suffer with allergies know the latter a bit too well! P.S. Tricyrtis hirta 'Miyazaki' is in bud, I'm soo excited! (first year from seed!) * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Sat, Sep 28, 02 at 2:56 So glad this thread resurfaced, cause I love this season. Eric, we have c. incana all over--they reseeded last year--and as you said they will bloom the first year. Yours are lovely. Spec4, I had no idea ajania wasn't a chrysanthemum! Anyway, as you say, the foliage is a whole lot nicer. I'm love gentiana scabra, a really late bloomer. My first bloom opened yesterdday. True blue--nice for a rock garden, cause they're small. * Posted by: Taryn S Ontario Z6B on Sun, Sep 29, 02 at 23:19 Andy, that is so pretty! If you manage to get some seed from them, I'd be very interested... * Posted by: Bob_R z6 Ontario on Mon, Sep 30, 02 at 0:56 Great thread David! I'd like to add Begonia grandis, which is at its peak. And I'd like to single out a tricyrtis which is unlike others in habit and flower - macranthopsis is trailing and has yellow flowers, a few of which are just starting to open (this is a new plant for me and I'm seeing it bloom for the first time). Bob * Posted by: Marg504 z5PA on Tue, Oct 1, 02 at 6:38 How long will it take to get the word out that "golden rod" is not responsible for fall allergies. It is the pollen of "ragweed" that is to be blamed for all that misery. Golden Rod justly deserves a place in our fall gardens * Posted by: spec4lover z7 VA on Tue, Oct 1, 02 at 10:04 My toad lilies are beginning to bloom!!! The speckled ones (I haven't looked up their names and the book is at home) are simply lovely and loaded with buds. The white ones didn't do as well this year. I read today that they should be watered when climate is in drought. I had them mulched and didn't water. It really looks like the speckled blooms didn't miss a beat, but perhaps that's why the poor showing on the white ones. It's a pretty little flower... Recent rains have made some of the reblooming daylilies shoot up new scapes. Radiant Ruffles and Siloam David Kirchhoff and So Excited are some of the prettiest ones!!! * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Tue, Oct 1, 02 at 19:44 Spec4 and Taryn, glad you like this gentian. Taryn, this thread said little known, not easy to grow, LOL They are so difficult, they are often considered annual, but I got mine to survive and flower after three tries ;-) Last night Japan was hit by Typhoon 21 (no names, just numbers!) and I'll go outside later to check to see if anything is left of my garden. Any seeds that might develop have you name on them. BTW, toadlily has a muuuuch nicer name over here--it is called (Japanese) nightingale (hototogisu). * Posted by: Brody 7/8 snst4 WA on Fri, Oct 4, 02 at 8:09 I'll second the Begonia grandis, and Cyclamen hederifolium, too. Schizostylus coccinea and its varieties are also great for fall, even into winter if the weather is mild. But my favorite is Nerine bowdenii, which should be blooming in about a week in my garden. Lots of hardy geraniums are still going strong, and Crocosmia 'Emily McKenzie is too. Great ideas, everyone! * Posted by: Dicentra SE PA z6B on Fri, Oct 4, 02 at 9:29 Marg, I agree! I love Goldenrod and have it planted towards the back of a native plantings area. It's showy and tough, especially in a garden setting. * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Sat, Oct 12, 02 at 10:05 Hi all, I have been gone 2 weeks but I am happy to see more contributions to this thread! I agree with Andy that fall is a wonderful time in the garden. One of the first things we all have to do on returning from a trip, of course, is to see how the garden is *doing* and what we have missed (even if it is pitch black outside, right? LOL). One of my treats on return is to see this little known treasure, Salvia koymae, in full bloom now. I expected it to bloom earlier but it is certainly welcome in October. This started as just a single plant this spring, now covering a 3' circle. I hope it will not be too agressive a spreader, because it certainly has won my heart. * Posted by: Taryn S Ontario Z6B on Sun, Oct 13, 02 at 4:41 Tricyrtis hirta 'Miazaki' is stunning, first year from seed! As is Begonia grandis. Patrinia scabiosifolia is remarkable too (in its second year). The bees and wasps seem really taken with it, drunk on it almost, LOL! I moved 3 plants from my trailer park (which we are leaving) to my front garden, and couldn't get most of the bugs off them. They were quite happy to stay on the blooms enroute, and are still glued to them now! I didn't cut them back before digging, and they are still blooming their fool heads off, with a bit of staking for support while they settle into their new homes. * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Sun, Oct 13, 02 at 21:04 David, how frustrating to learn about a Japanese native from someone in Michigan, lol! I LOVE it. Too bad I don't have any shade to put it it. I did some research and in Japanese it's called Nagano (place name, remember the winter Olympics?) autumn paulownia! And Taryn, I've already got seeds of patrinia germinating for next year. (Only had one this year.) A great addition to any fall garden! * Posted by: girlgroupgirl 7b on Sun, Oct 13, 02 at 21:16 This year I planted a Forsythia Sage (will bloom next year), the shorter version of tartarian aster and a climbing aster which is absolutely the most beautiful lavendar color! It took me a few years to figure out what would give me the most continuous and latest blooms. The trick is to make sure they well placed (not to close to others, not too far away as to be just islands in a bed of green or dirt). I also purchased a plant listed as Kunata (sp?) but it is a creeping mat forming plant with small pink ball heads. Pretty, blooming now but would be super invasive if not where it was planted. I like the Caryopteris/clerondenrum. I think I am going to add this to my want list! * Posted by: krista_marie 5 on Sun, Oct 13, 02 at 22:15 My Wonder of Staffa aster has been blooming into November for the last three years along with my Iceberg rose. I couldn't be happier. My mums, plumbago, agastache, caryopteris, and salvia are all blooming their heads off. That will probably end with the frost tonight. * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Sun, Oct 20, 02 at 0:02 Reading some of the comments about asters, I get the feeling that people are overlooking these plants based on their familiarity with roadside asters, and instead plunking down money for potted mums which are hit-or-miss when it comes to hardiness. Aster oblongifolius (forms of which are sometimes sold as 'Raydon's Favorite' or 'Fanny's Aster') is one highly adaptable species that thrives from zone 5 on down to the Gulf Coast. A. tataricus and A. elliottii (a tall Florida native with pink flowers, good for hot climates) are other species worth investigating. And I've seen few mums that could match 'Prof. von Kippenburg's performance in my garden this year: * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Sun, Oct 20, 02 at 7:38 I'll just put in a sideline to asters, after Erics comments. There are many good asters, and as he said one of the most gardenworthy is A. oblongifolius. 'Raydon's favorite' is a great plant, has a very nice tight 'shrub-like' appearance in bloom, and fairly late bloom. I have grown some other cultivars of this species too. One slight problem I have had up here is that they seem a bit marginal in hardiness, I have lost them some years. My favorite asters, which would qualify as little known since I have rarely seen them in gardens (and maybe never heard anyone else talk about them in the forums) are cultivars of the species A. laevis. My absolute favorite is a tall (4-5') variety with rich lavendar flowers and dark purple red stems call 'Calliope'. It is a great garden plant throughout the season beacause of its dark stems, which make a wondeful light-dark color echo with the plant in bloom. The other fabulous cultivar of A. laevis worth growing is 'Bluebird', also a shrubby mass of rich lavendar in bloom, not bothered by so many of the problems which plague the more common New England asters. Finally, I will put in a plug for the native Aster ericoides, the heath aster. These plants make clouds of white to pale pink or lavendar blooms, are ideal in poor soils, but will also do well in average garden soil. I rarely if ever see them in gardens but they are good plants. Heronswood used to carry quite a few named cultivars. * Posted by: zrusilla z5 Chi,IL on Mon, Oct 21, 02 at 16:52 Heath aster grows wild all over the neighborhood around my office. I recently dug up a sample from a vacant lot and plunked it in my parkway garden. I also did the same for butter-and-eggs (toadflax.) * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Mon, Oct 21, 02 at 18:07 A few more, strutting their stuff as October draws to a close: Agastache rupestris 'Apache Sunset' - fine billowing blue-green foliage scented of anise or liquorice (individual nose interpretations vary) and tubular orange-red to apricot flowers. I didn't think much of this plant when it started blooming in early summer in its first season from seed, but it's gotten more floriferous and dense since then. Very nice. I had forgotten ever planting it, but a renegade deep purple Aconitum has come into flower. And Helianthus 'First Light' has been impressive in its initial season, the yellow flowers especially effective glowing in the light of late afternoon and early evening. And it doesn't do too badly in early morning either. * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Mon, Oct 21, 02 at 19:10 And, perhaps last but not least.......no one has mentioned (where are you Beverly/Storybook Gardener??)....(drum roll).....Ligularia tusselaginea aureomaculata (don't ya' just love that name!!!!!). I learned of this plant on this forum last winter, bought one from Plant Delights. Well my plant has thrived, except for a few slug holes, and when I got back home a week ago it was just covered with flower stalks. The flowers aren't quite open, though I can see the yellow inflorescences just beginning to show. It has been unusually cold here the past few weeks, but I am still hoping that this will fully open. If so, it is clearly going to be a November bloomer. I am hopeful, and Beverly and others reported success in overwintering this in Michigan and Ohio, despite the zone 7 rating. I will post a picture when (if) it fully opens out. * Posted by: Tomato_Girl z5St.Louis on Tue, Oct 22, 02 at 15:13 How can I get some Calliope Astor? I saw a really tall blue aster at the Missouri Botanical Garden and it was next to the FABULOUS goldenrod 'Fireworks'. What a pair! * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Tue, Oct 22, 02 at 17:34 A tall aster which is easy to find (relatively) is A. tataricus. It gets 5-6'. Tolerates part shade too. Somewhat invasive, not for a 'polite' border. I got my aster 'Calliope' from Heronswood years ago, not sure they still offer it. Well worth seeking out. Other tall asters to look for are 'Treasurer' and 'Climax'. Do a search, I'm not sure of sources. Canyon Creek Nursery in California used to be a good source for some of these asters but I do not think they offer them any more. * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Tue, Oct 22, 02 at 20:46 I recently saw the ligularia David mentioned in a wooded section of a display garden in North Carolina. Very nice under oaks. The flowers are OK, but strictly secondary to the foliage. This plant and plain ol' L. tussilaginea are acceptable hosta substitutes in places too far south for hostas to flourish. * Posted by: judyefd 6ma/4vt on Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 10:49 I want to put in a pitch for Mongolian Aster - Asteromoea mongolica. It has adorable white buttons (that start out with a lavender hue) with yellow centers. They've been non-stop blooming for me since mid-July - and I pinched them back twice to keep the height to a little over 2 feet. Still looking good - even with this morning's snow! * Posted by: gardenbug Canada zone 5 on Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 11:21 My aster, The Prince, is a beautiful thing today in the garden with its darkest of leaves and multitudes of tiny white pink-centered blooms. I caution those who think that goldenrods are common. The many hybrids are very deserving of investigation. The "solidaster" is also a beauty- a compact hybrid cross between Aster and Solidago. * Posted by: Lisa_H 7 OK on Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 13:31 I didn't see anyone mention it, but I really enjoy my perennial ageratum Eupatorium coelestinum this time of year. It is a beautiful misty blue color and really adds some color to fall bouquets. However, put this in a place you don't mind it roaming, it is rather invasive. I have it in a partially sunny location (more sun than shade). * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 16:50 Eupatorium coelestinum generally runs about a foot and a half tall max, sometimes a bit more. It does spread, but is shallow rooted and easy to yank if it strays where you don't want it. * Posted by: sbeuerlein on Wed, Oct 23, 02 at 21:25 I have an Agastache called "Apricot Sunrise," which I've enjoyed this year. Still in bloom. Started in July or August. Solidago rugosum "Fireworks" somebody mentioned has become one of my favorite perennials. Something to look forward to each year. Spectacular. * Posted by: Andy_Japan z9 on Thu, Oct 24, 02 at 3:56 I just found this one: Ainsliaea cordifolia. Blooms in October. It's a compositae, and hardy to zone 4! Terra Nova is the only place it's available. But they're only wholesale. Maybe if you contacted them they could tell you what nurseries/garden centers they sold them to--or maybe it's just for the coming 2003 season. And maybe if you bought enough (GB, you have plenty of space!) you could get them wholesale. * Posted by: Bonitoad 7b B.C. on Sat, Oct 26, 02 at 5:03 You all had me very concerned about what was blooming in your gardens... until I looked at the dates you posted on.....wheeee. We've only had cool weather for a few days now and plants , such as hostas, have just turned yellow. I'm enjoying all my fall blooming tricyrtis, pulsatillas are at it again, and the stately ( 7-8' ) Leycesteria formosa is at it's best right now... What an interesting thread this is... I've been busy writing down names on my wish list.... thanks every-one.. * Posted by: Bouquet z8 Dallas on Tue, Oct 29, 02 at 16:41 When I first planted the perennial Blue Mist Flower, I was disappointed with the weird lavender color that seemed to clash with its own green leaves. This year I have a Paul Neyron rose surrounded by Victoria Salvias with Blue Mist flower along one side mixed in with the salvias and a pale yellow lantana called Lemon Drops in between. The purple of the salvia seems to tone down the lavender and help it blend better with the other colors. I know you're not supposed to plant things so close to roses but I really like the way this looks. For me, it makes a nice filler and is shallow rooted and easy to thin out where you don't need it. I have it in full sun. I tried a Caryopteris once but it didn't make it. Our summers are brutal. I'm still a novice and tend to fall for plants the nurseries sell ? a lot that are inappropriate for this area. * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Wed, Oct 30, 02 at 9:56 In addition to E. coelestinum, there's another member of the genus that would be useful in your area. E. greggii is native to Texas and parts of the Southwest, blooming in spring and fall and attracting butterflies. It grows to about 18 inches and is rated hardy to zone 7. I also grew a shrubby Mexican Eupatorium (E. viburnioides) in the Houston area (it's been offered by Yucca Do nursery). This one is somewhat succulent and has white flowers which appear very late in the season (late November when I grew it). * Posted by: Bouquet z8 Dallas on Wed, Oct 30, 02 at 12:07 Thanks for the additional suggestions re eupatoriums -- Do you know if that Euphorbia polychroma 'Midas' in David's garden would grow in my area? I'm always looking for fall color in foliage (red, orange, burgundy)-- like Nandina, but not Nandina. I know something like that would really set off what I have blooming right now for next year: Salvia gregii in all colors (red, fushia, apricot, orange, pale yellow and white), Mexican Mint Marigold, Salvia Leucantha, Radiation lantana, yellow butterfly bush, Russian Sage, and Mutabilis. (The plants we can grow here sound so unsophisticated compared to your plants further north...) but I can't complain about the beautiful color right now. I'm not ready to commit to the permanence of shrubs in this garden since I'm still experimenting with the position of the plants. I did find that an earlier comment about planting 2 fall blooming things for every one planted before June has really helped me in my selection of plants lately. Thank you to whoever that was! * Posted by: david_5311 Z 5b/6a SE Mich on Wed, Oct 30, 02 at 13:20 Hi Bouquet, that comment was one that I read years ago and often quoted (here and elsewhere) from Christopher Lloyd, the great British gardener, and I have found it useful for years in planning long-season herbaceous plantings. I suspect that you can grow Euphorbia polychroma, but I can't guarantee that it would turn color for you. Some gardeners in mild climates suggested that it did not turn color without significant cold. But of course, there is an easy way to find out (try it and see, then let us know...) I have to laugh about your comment about not wanting to use shrubs because you are still playing 'musical plants' and making changes. I can tell you that doesn't stop me! I spent the weekend moving shrubs around, doing exactly what we do with perennials. It really isn't a problem as long as you don't wait too long, (try it and see...). And I would much rather move a 2 year old viburnum than a 10 year old Miscanthus sinensis 'Silberfeder' any day! :o) * Posted by: Eric_OH 6a on Wed, Oct 30, 02 at 14:20 There are good fall accent plants for the Dallas area that would be marginally hardy further north. A few that come to mind are grasses in the genus Muhlenbergia (M. lindheimeri is a gorgeous blue-green grass with excellent flowers (there was a fine specimen at the Antique Rose Emporium the last time I was there) and M. capillaris lights up meadows with its hazy pink plumes in fall. Pennisetum setaceum rubrum will last deep into fall for you. You mentioned Mexican mint marigold, and another Tagetes (T. lemmonii) is a shower of late-season gold with a plus of citrusy foliage. Firebush (Hamelia patens) is probably not going to be reliably hardy for you, but grown as an annual will thrive on the hot summers and give you red-tinted foliage as the weather cools. * Posted by: Bouquet z8 Dallas on Wed, Oct 30, 02 at 14:45 I have a T. lemmonii planted last spring as a 4" pot. It is now 2'x5' and planted in the wrong place since I was unaware it would get so huge. It has not bloomed yet and we have a cold front coming this weekend -- hope I don't lose the blooms. The firebush I have considered before. Maybe I'll try it next year to accent one of the tagetes. Thanks for the excellent suggestions.