I really do not know whether this is at all the same problem you are having, so I'll describe for you my rose problem, what I've learned and how I am responding. An unnamed rugosa inherited with my house has suffered yearly with yellow chlorosis (yellow with green veining) followed by scorching of leaves and then entire branches. One possiblity is that there is an iron deficiency; the other possibility is that it is a different deficiency such as magnesium. I tried to correct for iron deficiency. If that doesn't work, I'll runs a soil test to shee what's going on. I have found information indicating that only chelated iron with EDDHA in it does any good for soils above 7.5 PH and that it is directly due to the alkaline soils we have that causes the chlorosis. If you are on clay as I am west of Mpls, the clay will keep the soil alkaline as it continues to break down. I severly pruned my rose, pruning out ANY evidence of damage, an then added a fertilizer with EDDHA iron chelate around the rose. So far it looks good with plenty of new growth. Hopefully that is all that will be required. Some site suggest spraying. Rugosas do not like being sprayed, I found out the hard way! Another site suggested Old antique roses (I have one-Rugosa rugosa alba) that is probably the strongest, heaviest blooming rose in my harshly exposed MN garden. I hope this is all that is required - for both of us!!! Good luck,

Well, I used what I found in the house. White paper bags with some sparkly silver ribbon at the top. It was working wonderfully, so I didn't feel the need to change anything. My first mango fell on Saturday. It felt a little soft, so I was excited at the thought of my first Nam Doc Mai. Then Sunday came along and we got a freak storm. It has been extremely dry so I was glad for the rain, but then the winds, like hurricane force winds, and hail the size of golf balls started falling from the sky. A friend of mine took video because we have never seen hail that big in Fort Lauderdale (west). Well, after the storm I went out for yard inspection, lost branches of trees, some trees fell over, and I had 9 mangoes on the ground under my tree. I brought them all in, and my daughter-in-law from Equador was thrilled to see green mangoes. She sliced one up in a bowl and salted it and looked like she was in heaven. She said they sell them on the street like that in Equador. I gave her some to take home and I'm glad someone is enjoying them. I still have a few here, with fingers crossed, to hopefully ripen. I still had 6 left on the tree, but the critters got one yesterday. All my protection blew off in the storm too. Terri

I must be developing alzheimers at an alarmingly early age my friend as I'd all but forgotten about this venture. -Cole

I just posted on another thread, but had to throw my 2 cents in ... I'm also delighted with my Bluestar. Some of the concerns I had turned out to be completely unfounded, and while I had a few start-up issues (as with just about everything!), Bluestar and Eurostoves addressed them promptly and professionally. In my experience, the weird issues raised on these Bluestar threads (ovens not sealing, doors flopping open, doors too hot) are completely bogus. Cleaning the top is a challenge ... one needs to not be too compulsive about that. But wow does it cook great!!! A few things in addition to the great burners ... I had read about long preheat times on the oven: I have the 48" and the small oven preheats in just a few minutes, the large in only a few more. I've never had ovens preheat so fast (my Bluestar was a replacement for a Viking). I consider myself an accomplished cook and baker, but my baking has improved dramatically with this oven (I've never had a gas oven before and was very concerned about how it would work for baking), my griddle is fabulous and, while it does need some time to have the temp even out across the surface, it preheats much faster than contributors to these threads would lead one to believe. I just turn it on before I start prepping the food to cook and it's perfectly heated in time to cook. I did tons of research before purchasing and was scared to buy something so costly sight unseen, but what a great purchase! Matt at Bluestar ... if you read these threads thanks for all your help! You're doing a superb job.