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Oh darn! My stone steps are clashing with my siding!

Posted by OntarioMom (My Page) on
Fri, Aug 15, 14 at 23:05

Hi everyone,

I am starting to hate the exterior of our house and feel sick about the colours we painstakingly chose. We recently had our natural stone steps installed in front of our house that is being re-built. While I like the steps, they are beige with a green undertone and the siding has more of a pinky undertone (pinky beige). What is happening, is the steps make the siding, and even mortar, take on a much more pronounced pink undertone. To top it off, our house faces north which means this side of the house does not get direct light and the extra shadows don't show the siding colour in its best light.

Here is what I was thinking as possible ways to solve this issue.

a)Repaint the front/north side only. Luckily this has the smallest amount of siding on it compared to other sides. I would seek to get a very, very, very near match to the original siding colour but with less red in it. I hope/rationalize that each side of the house presents the colours of the siding differently anyway. We would use this same north colour to paint the garage which is more of a green beige as well (this was the original Garaga colour).

b)Find a way to stain the steps? Not sure if this is possible.

c)Choose LED lights of a warm temperature (lower K) to shine on the siding and a cooler LED to shine on the steps in hopes that the late afternoon dusk when the problem is the worst the lighting would help. The good news is we already roughed in for two coach lights and 2 pot lights in the recessed entry area.

Below you will find pictures of the problem area. I took them late this afternoon. I don't think they show the clash of undertones as much as they do in real life, but if you look at the picture of one piece of siding on the steps you might better see what I am talking about. I also show a south side of the house (excuse the paper curtains, lack of landscaping and other construction mess).

Please let me know what you think of my possible solutions or any others you can think of to make the exterior colours work better. Thanks!!

Carol

Full front of house. There will be glass railings on the over garage deck area that are not yet installed (they will be a grey to match the window trim).

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Zoom in to biggest problem colour clash

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PIece of pinky beige siding on the green beige steps. Here you can most clearly see the clash. Although in real life it is worst than in the photo.

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Now the south side of the house where the siding never bothers me as the pink undertone is much more subtle.

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RE: Oh darn! My stone steps are clashing with my siding!

On my screen, I don't see an issue at all. I don't know if I'd bother doing anything when it's only an issue at certain times of the day, and you have plenty of other things to do on the house.

But I would definitely NOT stain the steps. They are a natural product, I would embrace them as such. Painting would probably be my second choice (after simply leaving it alone.)


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RE: Oh darn! My stone steps are clashing with my siding!

Thanks amberm for your reassurance that it looks okay in the photos. You are so right that we have tons to do on this house, and should not be hung up on the clash. However, the problem is not just at certain times of day -- I would say I can see the clash at all times of day. Of course, the north side/front that I look at the most is the only problem side. We would not bother to fix the problem to at least next spring when more important house building is behind us (like insulation before winter hits). I would just like to know a solution was available so I can stop feeling sad every time I arrive home and see the house (of course grass will help too).

As per staining the steps, I could also consider sealing them as that might make the colour change a bit. On the other hand, I think they might be more slippery and we do have a snowy climate.

Carol


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RE: Oh darn! My stone steps are clashing with my siding!

Steps are green, siding is red (pink). Technically, it's a red/green complimentary colors situation. The most dramatic of color relationships with the green enhancing the red and vice versa.

The solution is to add another color(s) to round out the complimentary relationship which would lessen the drama of the extreme contrast.

Problem is you don't have place or way to add more color. Except for landscaping and that's going to be seasonal so it won't be a permanent effect.

If you're going to paint one side of the house, why not bit the bullet, do it right and just paint the whole thing in a color that you feel works better with the steps.

The steps are fabulous, btw. Totally worthy of driving the color scheme for the whole exterior.


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I also don't see a problem on the screen, but can tell it's bothering you. Actually, I think of the natural stone and the colors in it as being similar to the earth and garden and not part of the "decor" of the house siding and its colors - the stone is next to the brick in all the photos and coordinates well with it and the mortar (and the ground)!

I think you will be able to minimize any dissonance you see in those beautiful stairs by choosing your landscape wisely. Not all plants are seasonal, you can get color and texture year round and the steps will fade into the background, will be part of the "ground" not part of the house.


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Not all plants are seasonal, you can get color and texture year round and the steps will fade into the background, will be part of the "ground" not part of the house.

I know nothing about plants. But if that is possible, wonder if that wouldn't be worth a try before repainting.


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I don't see a problem at all. I would live with it, things change with a little weathering. Plantings or pots with plants could be added to add more colors.
I think the stone steps are a beautiful natural element.


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I'm not seeing a problem either. Both colors are so neutral that they look fine to me.

Have you washed off the steps? They look dusty. I know when we were having landscaping done, our crushed stone looked really pink, not brown, until they got washed down...then the color became a lot truer and better.

If you have a sample of the stone, you might try using a sealer on it too which will change the depth of color. Perhaps the colors are too close, and if the stone had a little more contrast with the siding wouldn't bother you so much.

Stone with and without sealer.


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Love the steps!

I can see a pinkish undertone on the siding and wonder if you trimmed up the tree a little if that might help. You say the front is what bothers you the most and maybe shedding more natural light onto the siding would help.

I agree with others about letting it sit for a while. Know if in a few months you just can't stand it, you can always paint over it. If you do decide to paint, maybe do it all in the same color as the garage door.


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Do NOT stain the stone.

The stars of the front of your house are the gorgeous doors - rarely do we see that style of front door anymore, which is a shame because they are so beautiful, and the new steps.

The siding is a taupe, hence the red in it.

I'd do everything I could to highlight the doors. They get kind of lost in the facade now.

I'd put a large pendant lantern up there; take the curtains in the transom window down so that light shows through the transom window at night, and I'd put brass kick plates at the bottom of the doors and change the hardware to brass.

If it can be painted, I'd paint the trim of the windows and eaves black and the siding I'd paint a milk chocolate brown.


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Just throwing this out there. :) Going by your first photo, I'm not so sure the clash appears to be so much with the siding but with the garage door color? And that would be an easy fix. It may just be how the colors appear in the photo.


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As two different materials, they are never really going to "match" even if the surface color is identical. The surface texture is different, one is on a primarily horizontal surface and one is primarily vertical so the way light hits them is different, and the siding has color on the surface or a single flat color throughout and the stone isn't really a single color, its a bunch of particles that are viewed as an overall color from a distance. Plus the stone is going to change color a bit.

I don't really see much of problem on my monitor but my expectation would not be that they should be identical anyway. And it's not just that I am male and can't see color nuances, I score pretty high on those sorts of tests.

I think you are over thinking it.


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i would let both the stone and the paint age a year or two.. before i come to any conclusions ...

i am sure you have enough things to worry about at this time ...

ken


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I agree with funcolors -- the way to distract your eye from any "clash" is to ADD colors.

In this case, I think the solution might be a paved walkway leading up to your steps. That is, a walkway made of pavers.

You can get pavers in all different shapes and colors. If you choose all the different colors you already have, and incorporate all those colors into a walkway, the mix will visually integrate any disparity, and make it seem like you have chosen all the colors on purpose.

This post was edited by mclarke on Sat, Aug 16, 14 at 9:49


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I can only see it on the picture of the painted board of the siding lying on the steps but not with the actual siding.

However, before repainting the front, I'd just let it weather for a while, see what it looks like with the path finished, some landscaping, including maybe a big planter, and also making the door stand out more.


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Another one to say, looks pretty good to me.

I know when we reno'd our kitchen, things seemed a little off at the stage where just the "hard" elements were installed. It wasn't until the hardware, lights, canisters, chunky butcher blocks, blinds, etc. went in that all the major elements really started to mesh together.

Like others have said, I would wait before doing anything drastic. And while I said above that it looks pretty good, I actually think it looks amazing. Those doors are stunning and I adore the brick (brick is my personal preference over the currently ubiquitous stone).

Keep us posted on what you decide to do.


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Wow, so many responses. Thanks for your input everyone. Here are some general responses as many of your ideas overlap to some degree. At the bottom I have listed my remaining questions (so you can skip down to the bottom if you don't wish to read this long post).

a)I agree the photos do not show the clash as much as looking at the house in real life

b)Painting all four sides of the house is out of the question due to that being huge dollars (it won't be fully painted for at least 10 years until it needs it). The other 3 sides of the house look great and I love the way the siding and brick look on these sides. My only thought on painting the front side was to slightly pull back on the red but keep a very similar colour intensity. It would have to be very carefully done so the corners did not look off. Kind of risky for sure, but maybe worth experimenting with.

c)Landscaping may really help as mentioned by many of you. We can't get much colour year round as we are in a snowy climate, but evergreens are certainly an option (maybe the green in evergreens will make the situation worse).

d)The stones are clean -- they were well scrubbed. Also we haven't even been using them as with the railings not yet installed we have the front door board up from the inside (railings will be a grey that matches the window trim grey.

e)The idea of sealing the stone is worth working through. We have to exchange the bottom step as it is damaged so when we go back to the stone yard, I will see if we can get a scrap piece to try sealing to see if that makes the situation better or maybe worse (it could bring the greens of the stone out even more). I have to debate the pros of richer shiny look of sealed steps with the increase of slipperiness which is an important consideration in Canada where we live.

f)As per weathering and colour changing, the siding was installed over a year ago, and the stone steps were on our site for a year too, but just got installed in June. So both have had some time to weather -- not sure how much more colour changing time will bring.

g)Trimming the tree is a good idea. It is north facing so there is only indirect light on that side of the house anyway. When the leaves fall off the tree, I will have a better gage as to the difference the tree is making.

h) I don't think DH would go for painting the gutter/soffits etc. Black might have been an intriguing colour. I can't say I have ever seen black gutters around here. Painting them at some point (not in the near future) could be explored. The same applies to the window trim. We have tons of windows on all four sides of the house. Many of them are very high up on a slopped property that requires full scaffolding to reach (we needed scaffolding to install siding and would need it to paint any of the sides except the front side.

i)Glad you like the door, Tibbrix. It is fiberglass with real mahogany trim. It now looks redder since the steps were installed. The paper curtain over the transom is just temporary -- to conceal the completely unfinished state of our interior. Once we are done the paper curtain over the transom will be gone. I like the idea of the brass kick plate and door handle. Probably would not be added right away though as DH would rightly rationalize that the new door hardware on it is new. Wish we had thought of a contrasting door handle finish when we chose the door hardware (so hard to get everything right).

j)The garage door is no doubt also contributing to the problem. Maybe as suggested by evenshade, painting the garage might really help (hope it won't make it worse). The garage door is currently a beige with green undertones like the steps. I can lay some siding boards against the garage to see if painting it to match the siding makes a big difference. The only thing is it was only when the steps were added that the over rosiness of the siding was noticed. When we had siding, garage and brick installed the siding did not look rosy as it does now.

k)Paving stones may make a big difference (except when covered in snow). We have all of our old pavers that we saved as our house prior to addition had lots of beautiful pavers, paths, circular landing. The pavers have aged to a pink colour with some grey pavers too. We will use some of these original pavers as they are on part of the driveway. I am not sure what colour to go for with any new pavers. We could change to grey pavers for the landing in front of the steps and leading to the side man door, and just patch up the pavers needed to repair the driveway.

i)Thanks for your reassurance that is looks good. Maybe when it is all done it will look good to me. Good analogy about part done kitchen not look great until all done.

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Remaining questions:

What is the best colour to go for for the pavers? What colours should we not go for in pavers that might make the problem worse

What about my light bulb temperature idea?

Is it really so unheard of to paint the north side ever so slightly different (a wee bit less red) than the other sides. I just wish we could find a colour that would make the siding look the same as it does on the south, east and west sides (see original picture of south side in opening post).

What colour should we choose for the outside coach lights?

Any suggestions on what colours would be best to counter balance the clash?

Here is a picture that shows, via Photoshop what the house will look like with the grey deck and hand railings. The steps were Photo Shopped in as well as the picture was done prior to step install. The shade of steps in Photo Shop photo is not the green beige they ended up being.

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Thanks for reading all this and helping me problem solve.

Carol

This post was edited by OntarioMom on Sat, Aug 16, 14 at 12:32


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RE: Oh darn! My stone steps are clashing with my siding!

Your latest pic really makes me agree with the poster(s) who said it's the garage that is throwing things off. Is there a reason it is was painted a different colour than the siding? That would seem to be the easiest fix, rather than painting the siding.


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Regarding the pavers:

Certainly you could repurpose some that you already have.

But here is my thinking....

Your house has a lot of straight lines. So you should design a curved walkway.

Use all the colors you already have -- the color of your brick, your siding, your door, your roof... with an equal mix of darks and lights -- with a lighter border leading to the steps. The border should be one single color... approximately the same color as the steps. This will please the eye and lead the visitor to the steps.

Again, integrate all the tones you already have... from dark to light.

I also agree that the garage door is a massive block of color that overbalances the visual impact of your house.

What if you painted it to break up the mass a bit?

You could paint the raised trim a slightly darker, or lighter beige.

This is more of a contrast than you might want, but it gives you the idea...


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@daisychain.

The garage door was never painted. The beige you see was the original colour from Garaga the garage door maker. It just happened to be very close to the siding. The garage door people don't want you to paint the doors, and I think it voids the warranty. However, before our addition, we had a single door garage that we painted black. Given it was north facing, it never faded. So I see no problem in colour matching the siding, and painting the garage door that colour. Unless increasing the amount of pink on the garage will further exaggerate the clashing issue.

@mclarke:

Thanks for your ideas on the landscaping. You make some great points. I have uploaded a picture of our house before renos and during renos that shows the pavers we have available. I like the idea you propose of a circular path or landing like we had before. If we start with new pavers we will have to lift all the pavers off the existing driveway and of course re-buy pavers. I don't mind changing colours for the path and landing, but not sure how this will look. Lots to puzzle through.

I had never thought to use two colours on the garage. I am not sure about the contrast and don't want to draw anymore attention to the garage. What do others think about using two colours on the garage? I might need to play with that getting DH to do some photo shop work.

Here are the pavers we have

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Here is what our house looked prior to demo/addition. Our old hard landscaping was nice. You can just see the circular landing in front of the old concrete steps. We have completely re-cladded the house after the addition was built so disregard the old brick as our present house has new brick.

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Any more thoughts guys?

Carol


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mclarke,

I wanted to thank you again for your detailed thoughts on the paver stones. I will try to match up the pavers with my brick, siding, door, window trim etc with a band like you suggested of a solid colour similar to the steps.

Carol


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The steps are fine, the siding is fine.
Don't even worry one more minite about it, it looks fine.
On to the next project....


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I do realize this is a first world problem, butterfly4U and they do look adequate together. But in real life the steps and siding do not look terrific together and we were hoping for terrific after all the expense and careful choosing. I just couldn't capture the clash with the camera for GW posters to see.

Carol


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I'm looking on an ipad and see no pink or green, just shades of gray and grayish beige with brick. Do agree with using all the shades in your paver design, and using as much curve as possible when laying out the paths.


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A factory finish on a garage door is ideal but it's rare that the finish will out last the actual door.

Garage door manufacturers have color specifications to follow that involve LRV. If you choose a paint color that is within the specified LRV range, you should not have any worries about voiding warranties. Step outside of their specs, and then it is true any warranty is voided.

You should check.

You have several options to start adding more of the same colors from the palette you have going on.

Shore up the color on that garage door - that's a relatively easy and inexpensive job.

And I definitely like the idea of the multi-colored pavers - another relatively easy job that will help pull the whole thing together.

I think your solution is going to be about being consistent with the siding color and the step color and repeating both colors as often as you can.

I have a saying about using desaturated colors like in your siding and your steps. If you wouldn't use those colors, red and green, together in their full saturated state, then you shouldn't use them together desaturated.

But here's the exception (nothing about color is set in stone) some people DO choose to use fully saturated red and green on exteriors.

So, that might be another angle to look to for additional ideas and solutions - take a look at full-on red and green exteriors for clues about how the curb appeal comes together.


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FYI, sealing the stone will not change the texture or make it more slippery as it sinks into the stone. It will help prevent staining, and change the stone to look like it does when it's wet all the time.


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Carol -

I like your driveway pavers! They work well with your current colors. How close is the driveway paver color to your new step color? Looks pretty close on my monitor. I think you should leave your driveway as is, and then use SOME of the extra pavers in your new walkway. Maybe you could use the driveway pavers as your walkway border. That will help link your driveway to your steps.

Looks like you're going to need at least one step-up in your walkway, because the elevation changes. Any thoughts about that?

You wrote: I had never thought to use two colours on the garage. I am not sure about the contrast and don't want to draw anymore attention to the garage.

One of the reasons the garage demands so much attention NOW is because it is such a large area of one color. If you break the color up a little, it will be less massive. It will blend in more. You don't need much of a color contrast....

Here's a photo of a house. Imagine the garage door all one color... It would demand much more attention because it would be such a large mass of color. By breaking up the colors, the designers have integrated the large door into the overall visual impact of the house.


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In terms of landscape, a couple of low dark green yews would help drive the steps back toward neutral as would using your dark green trim color on the deck. But this might drive your siding pinker and you may end up with a pinky and greeny house, which I like (love brick + sage). I think your trim looks much greener and less neutral than your steps.

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I think everything looks very nice together and really am not seeing too much of a pink tone. Great before and after! I do agree that painting your garage door could be a positive change. It would look nice painted either the color of the siding or the darker door.


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Thanks everyone for your great ideas. You have given me lots to think about.

I am going to see how well our current pavers match with the siding, steps, bricks etc. I will shop for some new pavers and see what kind of plan I can come up with using some old and new.

I am going to try to find an exact match for the siding colour. I will paint the garage door the same colour as the siding.

I am going to photo shop your ideas such as a two toned garage door, different colours for the railing. DH is the only one who has a wee bit of Photo Shop skills and he is doing rough-in plumbing at this point. Perhaps he will have time tonight to do some mock ups for me that I can post.

I don't think the sealer on the steps are going to improve things. Yesterday, it was raining and it struck me that wet the steps looked worse with the siding. I will double check with hosing them down.

Not sure if the grey trim is contributing to the problem. The flashing, soffits, gutters, etc is likely green grey, but wood trim around windows might be a different grey (I will check the undertones of this). Don't think we will be able to paint the wood window trim at this point (too extensive of a job due to needing scaffolds).

Does anyone have any thoughts regarding the light fixture colours?

Carol


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Here are a few more photos. The first one shows the siding and steps together.

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The next one shows the garage door with some siding boards placed against it to help show what having a garage door painted the same colour as siding will look like.

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The last one shows some of the old pavers I have available together with a piece of siding, steps, brick, door trim and window trim. The colours range in the pink/red hues and grey hues. We don't have anything that relates much to the door, except the door gives off a red hue as it is stained a browny red. Also, I don't think any of the pavers look that awesome with the steps.

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Any more thoughts after seeing these images? I will post Photo Shop pictures hopefully late tonight. I appreciate your help.

Carol


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I think that they don't really clash that badly. Think about if the steps were just basic concrete. The color wouldn't necessarily go with most of the houses where people just have concrete steps/walkways. No one ever says - wow the siding doesn't go with the concrete! It's a neutral a non noticeable part of most houses.

I think you are much more aware of the steps than anyone else would ever be. That said, if they really bother you - I'd replace the steps. That seems to be the least amount of effort than repainting the whole house.

I actually like the pavers with your steps and door and trim. Not matchy matchy which is boring, but coordinated enough to look well together. I'd paint the garage door to match the house, plant some evergreen bushes around the walkway and then see if you even notice it. A few pots on the steps filled with annuals in summer and evergreens in winter and the steps will fade into the background and never be noticed.

I think the house will be amazing when it's all done. The gray railings will be so cool. Love the remodel, and what you've done!


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Hi caroleoh,

Thanks for your encouragement. Together with the others on this post that are saying it is not that bad, I am starting to feel better about it. Replacing the steps would be a huge cost. The steps and particularly the large landing step were both expensive to buy, costly to ship to our site and costly to install. It could be cheaper to paint the siding. I am not sure which would cost more.

Glad you like the pavers and thanks for your landscaping ideas. Good to know you like the idea of grey for the railing -- we did photo shop different railing ideas a few months ago and a grey that was the same as the window trim looked best.

Carol


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If you plant hostas in your front yard, their beauty will distract from the issue that is bothering you!

Cheers!

Don B.


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Ok well I have to agree with Don on that one. ;)


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Thanks Don and Robotropolis. Of course, here in Canada the growing season is short. Perhaps plantings will solve the issue for 5 months of the year.

Carol


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mclarke and others,

I got DH to use Photo Shop to add dark grey contrasting colour to the garage. Not sure, what do you all think?

Carol

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This post was edited by OntarioMom on Sun, Aug 17, 14 at 23:00


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Mclarke,

In terms of the path you are imagining, if I use the old pavers to repair the driveway, and then use some for the border of the path, what colours should I look for for the interior of the path? Or could I use the colours I have for the interior of the path, and just buy a solid colour for the exterior border of the path (then what solid colour)? I also have some pavers that form circles as we used to have 3 large circles for the landing in front of the steps.

I will attempt to get DH to re-photo shop the grey lines on the garage door tomorrow with a non shadowy picture (photo was taken too late this afternoon).

Any thoughts on the finish/colour for the coach light fixtures?

Carol


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OOOOOH!

I absolutely LOVE the photoshopped garage door! Suddenly all the geometry of your house comes together! The rectangles of the garage door echo the rectangles of the window trim, the railings above the garage, even the bump-out-bay to the right. Do you see it? And the colors -- YES! It all comes together!

Okay, give me a moment to calm down, lol...

(Don and Robot, it's nice to see you visiting from the hosta forum! Every house looks better with hosta, lol...)

Carol, thanks for posting the photo of the pavers with the siding and the brick, door trim, window trim, etc. I think you have already done a remarkable job bringing all these colors into cohesion. It is going to be beautiful.

Adding colors to the paver design? Yes, I would add some from the darker end of your spectrum -- including the door color -- and some of the true brick color... so that you have, in your walkway, a mix of ALL your colors. I think it will bring everything together.

Remember, when you're walking, your eyes are always absorbing the ground where your feet are traveling. As you approach your door, your eye will be seeing a lovely mix of all the colors of your exterior.

I think your house is beautiful, and the choices you have made so far are tremendous. You just need a little finishing touch to bring it all together... then you need to step back to the street, let your eyes go out of focus, and let it all wash over you.

I think you'll be thrilled by the finished picture.


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mclarke,

Thanks ever so much for your great ideas and encouragement. I like the garage door with the two tones, but DH is not 100% convinced. We are going to re-do the Photo Shop with a fresh shadow free picture and re-post. Thanks for the clarification on the pavers. I will look for rich red (brick colour) and deep brown/red (door colour) to add to my collection. I was thinking about using a more solid grey paver for the pathway border with the multi-coloured interior. Hope that fits your vision.

All:

I hope you will chime in and let me know what you think of the mclarke's brainwave of the two toned garage. We have posted an image on Sunday at 21:01. Please give me your votes on this creative idea.

Carol


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I was not convinced, or even tempted by the thought of a two tone garage door, but I think it looks fabulous! mclarke is right that it really brings everything together. The colors, the geometry and balance are wonderful now!


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Thanks olychick for your vote. I was surprised how much I like it too. Visualizing is hard for me. Here is an updated picture without the late day shadows.

What do others think about the two colour tones on the garage door as shown below?

What colour finish should I be looking for for the coach lights?

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Are the panels on the garage door the same color as the siding? I know it's photoshop, so assume some variation will show. It doesn't look the same, but if it were, I'd really like it.


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Hi olychick,

I agree. I wish DH knew how to make the taupe panels on the garage door the same as the siding with his method of Photo Shop. He says he doesn't know how to do that. So, the garage door is still the original Garaga taupe colour. We plan to paint it to exactly match the siding with the elevated portions grey to match the window trim and railing.

Carol


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Hm, I'm not crazy about the two-tone garage door. Makes the garage and the door a very prominent feature. And it emphasizes all the straight lines.


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Hi Nosoccermom...

I agree that there are a lot of straight lines... but Carol plans on creating a curved walkway with circular landing pads, which will add a bit of balance.

Carol, are you a windowbox person? I wonder how that lower window on the right would look with a windowbox...

I have no suggestions about the coachlights. There are other people here with much more expertise in that area.


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Thanks for your vote, nosoccermom. Any more votes on the two-toned garage?

mclarke, I think that lower right window will have bushes under it. I kind of imagine there would not be tons of room for a window box, nor sun in that location due to that mature birch tree. I had thought of having pots of flowers on the deck which would be seen through the clear deck material.

Carol


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I like the 2-tone garage. I'd be tempted to make both the colors a slight bit darker.


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Thanks andee for your input. The colour of the main body of the garage will be darker -- it will be the colour of the siding (we just didn't know how to change the colour in the Photo Shop picture). Do you mean to go darker than the siding for the garage and darker than the grey in the window trim?

Carol


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I didn't catch the part where the garage door is a different color than the siding. Since the siding and trim are well-coordinated, then hopefully the 2-tone garage will be too. In Photoshop, isn't there a little eye-dropper tool that you can touch onto an existing color to "pick-up" that color and then use it in your palette to color in another space?


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Hi andee,

Actually DH is using Corel Draw paint functions to add details to an existing house picture. He isn't actually using Photo Shop. I just used that term as sort of a generic term for altering a photo. I wish we knew how to use Photo Shop proper with all of its tools.

I was curious if anyone had an opinion on re-painting just the front of the siding with an ever so slightly different taupe with a wee bit less red in it. (as close a match as possible but say one drop less red -- I would need to experiment lots). Has anyone even heard of tweaking the shade of a house from one side of the house to another?

Carol


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I think almost every program has the same little eyedropper. You can even do it in Microsoft Paint.


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Everyone: I think the biggest issue we are having is the garage door as mentioned by more than one of you!!! Once DH used Corel Paint to colour the garage door the same as the siding all looked so much better to me! Maybe now that there is more siding colour (siding plus the garage area) it over powers the step colours more. I did not realize the impact the off colour garage door was having. Can't wait to paint it for real.

Now I need you to vote on whether you like the garage with one colour of two.

Option A (note the garage trim has been roughly drawn in)

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Option B (two tones)

 photo garagedoordarkwtrim_zpsf4b0e792.jpg

Please vote on these two options.

Also, does anyone have an opinion on lighting fixture colours.

P.S. @andee -- thanks to your tip DH was able to change the colour of the garage with the Corel Paint program.


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I like the two tone garage door. It helps to blend the door into the house design rather than stand out on its own.


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Would you photo shop the garage in all the darker color, also?


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@mnwsgal: Thanks for your vote and rationale

lizbeth-gardener: Can you explain further what you are suggesting. Currently option A shows the garage door Corel Painted in with the same colour as the siding. Are you suggesting the garage should have a darker colour than the siding?

Carol


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I just wanted to see the whole garage door in the darker color shown on the option B where the panels of the garage door are the siding color with the trim boards a darker color. Not saying it will be better-just wanted to see it painted that way before I vote.


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Thanks lizbeth. I think this is what you wanted to see. Let's call it option C

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Thanks for doing that-option C is too dark for me. When I look at the house with the one color garage door (option A), I see the house as a whole. When I look at the house with the two colors (option B), my eye goes to the garage door and then I see the house. The two tone also makes all the squares/straight lines more prominent. I like the one color better-the same as the siding-Option A JMO

edited to add all of the option letters for clarity.

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I like option 1 or 2...I know that's not too helpful, but they both look great. I don't think you could go wrong.

And I really think as you get used to the steps you won't think of them as clashing as much as you did at first. The house is so beautiful, that I just think they are not showing up to others as they do to you.


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The garage door should be the same color as the body of the house. Whether you choose to use the house trim color to bump out the details is up to you.

Black for fixtures. At this point I'd focus on repeating the same colors whenever, where ever possible. Black fixtures because the last thing you need is to introduce another "color" in the mix. I'd anchor what you do have going on with black details.


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Now that the garage is painted the same as the siding, it makes all the difference. And I can even see better now why you do not like the pink/green clash. But somehow the massive amount of garage color reduces the clash's magnitude. The darker color on the garage brings more clash (to me).

I vote for A. And if it is too much, you can always put in the second color later without a lot more hassle.


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@ lizbeth-gardener: Thanks for your vote and for explaining why you voted the way you did.

@olychick: Thanks for the reassurance that the house will look good no matter which way we paint the garage.

@funcolors: Thanks for your advice. So, when you say black for the light fixtures, do you mean true black or oil rubbed bronze black. The door handle was oil rubbed bronze, but it looks black.

@andee: Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the house. I was surprised how much of a difference painting the garage door the same as the siding colour made too. You are right we could start with painting the garage the siding colour and then deciding if we want to do the trim the grey.

Any more votes on the garage or thoughts on the light fixtures?

Carol


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Use the door handle as a guide for other finishes.

Don't add any more colors than what you already have and repeat the ones you do have.


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ditto what funcolors says about finishes.


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Thanks daisychain01. Do you have an opinion on the two options for garage door?


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I really didn't think I'd like the door outlined, but it does have some appeal.

Is painting the siding now out completely? If you do paint the siding, I'd paint it to match the colour the garage door is now. I can't justify suggesting to do it, but only if you were doing it anyways.


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daisychain,

Thanks for your opinion on the garage door. Painting all the siding on all four sides of the house would be cost prohibitive (there is tons of siding on the other elevations unlike the front side). We will not paint the whole house for 10 years when it needs it anyway and then we can tweak the colour.

The only painting I was considering now, was to paint the north side of the house a very, very similar shade with a touch less red. The east, west and south sides of the house look great. It is only the front/north side that looks pinkish.

Carol


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Ontariomom, I just painted the wood siding on our cottage and realized as I was painting it, that the north side was painted a different shade than the rest. It has been at least 10 years since it was last painted and I never noticed. It was only when I held up paint samples to try to determine what colour I wanted to paint it that I noticed. So, I'm guessing if you did go that route, it would not be noticeable. However, I do like the solution of painting the garage rather than the siding.


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daisychain01,

That is very interesting -- thanks so much for sharing. What general colour was your cottage anyway?. Do you think in your case just one side faded more than the other. I wondered how noticeable it would be to have a slightly different colour on the north end, because every orientation hits the light differently anyway.

No matter what we will paint the garage as I do think after playing with the house on the computer and adding the darker colour in Corel Paint the garage is certainly contributing to the issue.

So sounds like we will paint the garage, landscape (hard and plantings), re-evaluate and then see if we want to try a slightly different colour on the north side only.

Thanks!

Carol


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