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Anyone ( at all!) Still Like A Tile Countertop?
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martinca (
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Sat, Aug 18, 12 at 2:08
I do. It has a cottagy appeal, i think. With granite in the kitchen and marble in the MB, I am seriously considering old fas hioned , glossy porcelain/ ceramic tile for granddaughter"s bathroom. New floor is creama marfil . It gets light use, so grout cleaning isn"t a concern. Easy to install with no awful trudging out to stone yards, along with expensive of fabricating. Along with cream colored, polished marble floor, there will be cream beadboard to add a vintage feel.
Pretty sure it will be tile, but can you suggest another option? Mostly, I am curious if anyone else still likes tile in any application?
Marti |
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| I do and I have several saved in my inspiration pics, one with beadboard and a nautical feel to the bath. But then again I have never had one. I just think dust collector when I think of all those grout lines, would love to hear from those who have them. |
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| We installed one in the master bath about 25 years ago and I am not fond of it. We had to replace several tiles when DH dropped something and chipped 2 tiles right in the middle of the counter. There are also chips in the tiles on the front edge of the counter that happened when the top drawer was shut with something sticking up that hit the tile edge. The grout has held up beautifully though and the tiles are easy to wipe clean too. I'd never do another tile counter because there are other materials that I prefer but my advice would be to use a stronger tile, perhaps a granite tile and I'm sure you could find one that mimics 'old fashioned, glossy porcelain". |
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Love mine. In our kitchen remodel, I could have selected any counter material. I chose 12x12 porcelain commercial grade floor tiles in an alabaster color for our main counters. Our island is Boos Hard Rock Maple butcher block. My house is from 1931, and I wanted very durable materials,but also wanted it to match the age of the home. Really like the tile, as you can put hot pans on it, and nothing stains it. We have not had any issues. Our finish is not a shiny one, and the tiles are large so there is not a lot of grout. It was also flexible in the bump out on our range and sink. 
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| Both my bath and kitchen have tile. Have had it for years because of my rustic part which always finds it's way a bit into decor. The kitchen is 12 X 12s. A wood floor. I like having the raised edged tiles for trim to keep water drips from happening. And also have a wood counter area for other uses. Have never had a chipping problem, but it can be an issue. For grout, the new mix is great and stain/water proof. You can also have smaller seams using this. I didn't put in a tile back splash due to feeling it may be too much. A matte tile works best, the shiny requires too much maintenance to even keep water spots from showing. And tiles with a lot of lot of texture are harder to keep clean. I know a lot of people here do not like tile on counter tops. It can echo an era once out. Upkeep, grout color, etc. Really depends upon the feeling wanted around you. |
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| I have 4" ceramic tile in two counterop locations. One is in my lake cottage kitchen - it is about 80 years old and it is pretty close to original condition with few cosmetic upgrades. Tile was a great choice for us for a variety of reasons including cost, ease of install and durability. We put it in almost 20 years ago and the light grey grout does not show dirt or stains despite a lot of reckless use. The other location is in my kids bathroom put in by the PO just after WWII. The grout is white but like the other bath with the same tile job in the house it still looks like the day it was installed, even the showers. I wish I could meet whoever did the install since it has to be one of the best tile jobs in history. The baths themselves are classic postwar bathrooms (colored fixtures and all) so a tile countertop fits perfectly in the decor. A lot of people do not like tile countertops but if you scroll down the page in the link it shows one in the bathroom. The designer comments that several houses on Portland Street of Dreams tour had them. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Pratt and Larson tile countertop
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| All my experiences with tile and grout have been bad. It's unavoidable in the bathroom, but if I had any other choice for any other room in the house, I would not use tile and grout. |
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| Oh Yes! For vintage style, what could be more appropriate...or adorable? I just saw a pic of a kitchen counter last week (wish I could remember where!) that was white tile with the edge tile in black. It was super cute. While I agree with Dedtired that grout can be high maintenance, if the countertop area is not massive, I think it could be an option that's not too crazy-making. You can seal the grout, or use epoxy grout, which is the most durable & stain resistant, (but has more of a learning curve at installation time!). You can also use grout lines that are 1/8" instead of the old 1/4" or wider lines of the past. I remember Kswl saying on another thread that her First choice for a countertop (if she got another house, I think) would be tile! |
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| I love tiles, there are so many beautiful ones available. I am considering using it for my kitchen counters with a soapstone island. Has anyone tired using the dark grouts? |
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| I have never seen one that I liked. I think it looks like someone was trying to save money, cheaping out, which I understand, but I prefer one smooth surface. I also don't like the grout lines. If I was looking at a house to purchase that had tile tops in the bath or kitchen, unless I was absolutely certain we were going to rip it out I would be turned off and not buy. I think it's passe, 80's-like. I'm not usually this brutal in a post, but that's how strongly I feel about it. My friend recently put in a gorgeous kitchen but ruined it with a tile top counter. Ugh! She did it to save money and it shows. She'd have been better off (in MY opinion) to go with a nice laminate counter. |
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| Julie, that counter looks great! I'd love to see pics of your ktichen. How did htey do the rounded edge on the corner tile? One of my favourite kitchens on gardenweb had granite tiles with a wood edge that they did themselves. My friend has a beautiful white glossy tile countertop in one of her bathrooms, but the heavy edge tile keeps falling off. Otherwise it is wonderful. |
A Tile Countertop?
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Same boat, you must be rather young to see ceramic tile as dated 80,'s style. Which causes me to ponder: what other bathroom counter materials were common 1940"s through the 70's?....besides Formica. Oh, I know! There were few vanities so no counters...right ? Julie.. Very innovative...nice! Technicolor, you gave me pause re matte vs. shiny. Think I'd like the matte better, especially those with a hand made look. Would I lose the vintage feel with matte, though? Stinky? Anyone? |
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| I love the look of tile countertops, plllog has a great tile counter in her kitchen. My only concern is grout. I have a hard time getting the grout on my bathroom floor tiles clean. I think (hope?) it would be less of an issue on a countertop, I will consider tile for the countertop in my kids' bathroom. I'd be nervous of a kitchen prep area application though, unless I had a magic solution for cleaning the grout. If anyone does have any magic solutions, please let me know. The grout cleaner I have isn't that great. |
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| In my lakehouse I found the perfect small bureau for the 125 year old bathroom with wood floors, claw foot tub and very old sink with single valve faucets. We tiled the top of the bureau and installed a sink and faucets. That was ten years ago. I have had hundreds of guests and it holds up amazingly. I do seal it once a year. I love the charm of it, no glossy granite could ever work in that room. My daughter has hand made tiles that I did for her, she wouldn't part with them. Go for it. |
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| Martinca--I have seen beautiful matte tiles that have a wonderful rustic look. Not sure about vintage--if you did the colors right--black/white/red turquoise I think it would work. Tile snobs need to look beyond the 80's beige and at the gorgeous art tiles and subtle colors available. |
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| It isn't just cleaning grout in kitchen tiles that is a problem, but not having a perfectly flat surface for food prep and writing, balancing hot pots and food processors, etc. I had to tolerate a kitchen with tile for a couple years and hated it. I love tile in the right place, and am even very good at setting it, but not on kitchen surfaces. Completely impractical, imho. |
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Martin Matte is available in many colors and designs. My take is a matte wouldn't change the feel you are after. Adding a nice trim would keep a vintage look. Take a look at some stores to get a feeling for what you like. Make sure whatever tile it is comes with available trim. Some do not and some have a wide variety of possibilities. Mine does have some texture, but not enough to pose a cleaning problem. The acrylic grout is great for cleaning, easy and doesn't take on stains or water. It sets up a bit faster, you need to sponge off sooner than the norm. You still need to clean, but is whatever you would clean the tile with. Yes to sealing all. |
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| Still have the basic white tile countertops and backsplash in my kitchen (and we added a tile floor years ago) Yes. There ARE times when I would love another type of countertop -- but we have not got the cash at this point ... AND the tiles (and backsplash) always remind me of old old shops back in Scotland ... I find the counters EASY to keep clean. Spray with bleach. Wipe. Thats it. |
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| I HATE our tile countertops. They were built in 1980 and fortunately just white but the tile is bumpy/textured and between the texture and the wide grout lines it is impossible to just wipe crumbs off (we have to use the hand vac) and it's never really clean. I can't get the grout to look clean at all (PO was not very diligent about keeping it clean). |
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I have on e section of my kitchen, near the cook top and the counter top grill in tile....no chipping issues and the grout cleans up very well with chlorox. I love the look.....and I told myself that if I ever planned another kitchen I would go to the tile store first and plan around the tile....so many beautiful tiles!! Yes, cheap light weight tile chips....but better denser tile does not. I have hand made porcelain tiles in the hall bath tub surround and next to the toilet....I love it!! |
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| Marti, I think matte tiles would work just fine! |
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| Here's are some tile counter pics from Houzz. The second and the sixth pics down feature a cute, cottagey feeling bathroom with tile counter. (It is glossy, though!) |
Here is a link that might be useful: So creamy, so dreamy
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| No, the same way i dont like outhouses, life without electricity, mechanical typewriters for writing letters, horse carriages for commuting to work... you get my drift. |
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| Daisychain, Since it's porcelain, it's the same all the way through. The installer had to fabricate the pieces next to the stovetop. Most of the edges, and the main sink use the 12 x 3 bullnose pieces. For the stovetop pieces (in the earlier post) I believe he wet-cut it from a 12 x 12, and then somehow smoothed it to match the bullnose profile on the other tiles. In this picture, you can also see how the face piece is a cut out a bit smaller next to the sink to fit in the dishwasher under the counter. BTW, we did our kitchen about 10 years ago, so it has held up very well. 
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Pharaoh, now that's funny . Stinky, in the houzz pics, in the 3rd group down , the one on the right is exactly what I'd imagined..lovely. Thank you ! Julie, nice styling.! And I know linda is right about quality tile vs. not so much. I've had both and they do look and wear differently. |
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Pharaoh, now that's funny . Stinky, in the houzz pics, in the 3rd group down , the one on the right is exactly what I'd imagined..lovely. Thank you ! Julie, nice styling.! And I know linda is right about quality tile vs. not so much. I've had both and they do look and wear differently. |
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| I don't know about tile that looks cottagey, but tile countertops, backsplashes and floors are being installed in our area--PNW--in brand new 1/2 mil dollar plus homes. The base tiles often have contemporary stripes, are linen textured, or other unique Moroccan or geometric shapes. Many of the ones in bathrooms or kitchens I'm seeing are large 24 inch sq or 12x24 and grout lines are narrow and the grout used is stainproof according to the tile installers. The tile edges are honed so that you can even have an undermount sink. They're completely level, so not sure what kind of unlevel tile others have had in the past--either very textured tile or poor installation I would guess. The ones I've seen look beautiful, and I think they're a viable option lower priced option. However, I would probably not put a very small light colored tile with light grout in a frequently used bathroom just because that's too great a risk of being hard to keep clean...but that's just my take. |
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| I love ceramic tile; it's my favorite material for counters,etc. No other material - none - has the variety of color and design that tile has. And I strenuously disagree that tile looks cheap and "make-do"; ours certainly does not. We have 16-17 running feet of pale 4"X4" terra-cotta colored tile, with bull-nose edges and an undermount sink, and with an Italian listello, in our kitchen, and have gotten many compliments on it, not that we installed it to impress anyone; we did so because we loved it. This was in 1995 and I didn't know anything about grout then, and the crew put down a grout that closely matches it in color. Over the years the grout darkened and showed some stains and I couldn't find anything to clean it. Was thinking of having it professionally cleaned. Then a few months ago I read on the Kitchen Table forum about Mr. Clean Magic Eraser, ordered it, and the only thing to say is OMG, it works! The grout and countertops look like new. When I finished cleaning I had our tile-guy (who is working on our bathroom reno) seal it. If the seal starts to wear off, I'll just get out the Magic Eraser and work it again and do another reseal. It's a brief bit of work for a look that is, in my eyes, so pretty and versatile. Our tile is in between matte and high gloss and does have one or two tiny chips, but that's of no consequence. IMO you should install what you love because it will make you happy. Just know going in about how to maintain any surface you choose. Perhaps Lynn in New Mexico will post pictures of her various tile counters - some in the most beautiful Mexican designs! |
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| Marti, yes, it was the the 3rd, not the 2nd pic, and the 6th one that I thought you'd like. Very high-end looking rooms that have a charming simplicity at the same time! I think the tile is the element that brings personality, texture and character to the mix. Houzz has a LOT more tile photos you may want to check out too. Fun to see the myriad possibilities for layouts, types of tile, and colors! |
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| I seriously considered tiled countertops, because they do add charm to a cottage style home! I would not shy way from using them at all! |
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| Sochi -- yes! YES! I recently found the magic bullet for tile grout, even the oldest nastiest tile grout: a high-temperature steamer. Seriously, we're about to put our house on the market and were despairing over the mudroom floor, an older tile job with things like wood stain, paint, & decades of mud and grime ground into it. The steamer made it look BRAND NEW. With nothing but steam, no chemicals at all. No kidding. I had to call my guy at work just to marvel over it. Of course, it's a big upfront investment at something like $1300 (!!), but I got mine refurbished for half off on eBay (the seller still has some listed if anyone is interested) and it has turned out to be one of the best purchases I've ever made on the home cleaning front. It's got a million nozzles for every conceivable use, including tiny wire and nylon brushes that are perfect for grout. I don't know about the cheaper brands/models of steamer (they may be just as good?), but this German Karcher DE4002 is just awesome, literally. I've become an insane cleaning-frenzied Hausfrau with the thing -- something of a miracle if you know me. And very timely, since the sellers of our new house had a huge dog plus apparently held regular picnics with no napkins on every floor in the place... (not my floor, a marketing picture showing some of the tools:)
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Here is a link that might be useful: Karcher DE4002 steamer
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| Sorry, I keep writing acrylic grout and Stinky is right. It is epoxy grout. Resale? Yup, could be a problem. The photos shown on Houzz were definitely installed by professionals and are beautiful. It would be interesting to know why the high end kitchens chose tile shown. I know there are more who dislike it than do. Definitely a personal choice and decor wise I probably color outside of the lines a bit. I do love all the solid tops too and so many options/ideas here. |
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| Might do tile for the new master bathroom counter as it will be a modern moroccan look (getting ready to order moroccan tiles). Solid surface is possible, as well. Not really sure what will look right. Alternately, waterproof plaster or even concrete, perhaps, since we plan on casting the tub in place. Regardless, it sorta depends on the look. |
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| Martinca, if you like the look and understand the problems of tile, go for it! For me three years of living with tile in Europe was enough! I had ceramic/stone tiles on every surface in every room that had water. Nine feet of tiling on 10' bathroom walls, as well as tile on kitchen, bathrooms, and maid's room floors. Since we rented I scrubbed every grout line (they *really* needed it initially) and regularly cleaned them so have more than done my share of cleaning tile grout lines. I realize there are sealers but I still think that grout lines may be a good place for bacteria to grow and IMO the majority of people likely don't clean them well enough or often enough from what I read on the net. Teacats has the best cleaning solution altho I dislike using bleach regularly. I love the look of art tiles (Moroccan, Spanish, Mexican) altho it's such a unique look it would be a resale challenge. |
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| I really like the rustic, small, mexican tile countertops. I'd love to have them in my kitchen as they would look so good with my southwest decor. I can't find anyone who does this kind of work. |
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I love them but my husband doesn't. One of my favorite kitchens is the old one on Two and a Half Men. Don't care for the remodeling they did. I only watched the show for its set. |
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| I had tile coutertops in a rental and a tile topped kitchen table. Hated them so much that I'm now afraid to use tile as flooring. They were always dirty looking no matter how hard I scrubbed. |
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| My experience is with grout on bathroom flooring. Many years ago I had Porcelanosa (sp?) white tiles with a beigy creamy color installed with beigy epoxy grout. Years later when the house was sold people repeatedly thought the floor was brand new. There was not a single mark or stain on the tile or grout, and I never cleaned the grout more than washing the floor. At the time I paid a premium for all the materials and installation, but it was well worth it! I would consider tile counters given the way a FLOOR held up, but only with epoxy or similar!!! |
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| I used to live in an old house with 3x3 dark greyish blue tiles and I loved the looked. I never had a problem with scratching or cracking. The grout wasn't too bad to maintain as it was dark. I love having a smooth surface now for baking and cooking with messy ingredients. I would go with tiles if I had two different surfaces in the kitchen. I wouldn't want tile counters for my prep space though. |
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| I love tile everywhere except on a counter. Bumpita, bumpita, bumpita, ick. |
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| I'd never do it in the kitchen, but in a bathroom the counter is just to keep water off the cabinetry. There isn't much of a mess. |
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