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Posted by mrsgomez
Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 22:14
|We're starting to get settled into our 100 year old Victorian home. Picking interior paint colors is daunting! The dining room has been a particular challenge because I'm trying to choose a wall color that coordinates with a bright blue oriental rug. |
Beige would be the easy choice, but I think I'd prefer some color since the adjoining living room will be neutral. I'm also looking for a wall color that will give a more relaxed or modern feel to our traditional furnishings (which are an accumulation of old family furniture).
I've made several trips to Sherwin Williams and have painted sample colors all over my house, yet I'm still not in love with anything. I'm hoping you all can help!
Here is a photo of the rug in our old house. I'll post pictures of the new dining room shortly.
|Here is a pic of the dining room:|
|And another pic -- the rug in question is heaped on the floor. Lots of colors going on... the room used to be red, and I've tried several different colors to no avail.|
|And one more... a close up of the rug to show the colors. |
|I might pick up the camel color from the Greek Key border? |
Pretty house! Love the greenery in view and all the light.
|A light, fresh yellow? This picture pulls yellow from the carpet, but this blue/yellow combo would work with your rug, too. You don't have to limit your wall colors to what's in your rug.|
This post was edited by peony4 on Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 23:20
|I like the light bluish grayish color of the splashy waves and the little dots. |
It would not be over powering and a nice neutral.
|Gold or a soft yellow like Peony's. Gold is great with blue.|
|I would avoid mauve and camel, the former because it is dated and the latter as it looks very close to the color of the window casings and floor---which look great with the floor, btw! In this case you might try a pretty off white with reddish undertones that pick up the camel brown, and I would coordinate the white with whatever colors and hues you are using in surrounding rooms. I don't often recommend shades of white, but your Chinese rug is so distinctive I think it needs a neutral background that provides no competition.|
|i would try a med or med-deep gold ...|
|That light aqua/blue, or I also see grey in that rug.|
|I like the green-grey/celadon color of the scales and tail of the dragon. |
If the floors were darker I think the camel would be nice, but they might be too close in value.
Since the house is Victorian, I think the mauve would be perfect. I don't think you have to be concerned about current trends in a historical house as much (although mauve has been popping up for a few years in interior magazines again). But in any case, I think you could go with something that fits the age of the house, and that trumps trends.
|Gold would also enhance the Chinese nature of the rug. It's also a good color for a dining room, warm and enveloping, so good for creating a great environment for conversation. |
I usually agree with nosoccermom and think she has really great iras and vision, but in this case, I think anything blue would overwhelm the room with blue.
Here is a link that might be useful: BM-Admiral Blue 2065-10
|What do you house the DR for? Formal evening dinners? Homework? Daily dinners? |
What about something like this (from the dragon tail?):
|My initial thought was the same as pal's. Check out these colors, maybe (unless you're committed to Sherwin Williams).|
Here is a link that might be useful: Quiet Moments, Beach Glass?
|I agree with pal about the dragon's tail...if you want to go deep, you could go with something like this SW maxi teal. |
or if you want to be a little softer, maybe something like this SW mountain stream
|Wow, you all are geniuses! I thought I had considered every color under the sun but most of these didn't occur to me. I agree that yellow, camel, (the right) mauve, or midnight blue could be gorgeous. In the end, though, I think the turquoise/teal suggestions from nosoccermom and Annie Deighnaugh are exactly what I've been looking for but couldn't pinpoint. And I love, love, love celadon as mentioned by palimpsest. |
The Maxi Teal suggestion above is great but it might be a bit too bold for every day. Any other suggestions in a similar vein?
Our dining room will be used *maybe* twice a year for formal gatherings. Most days we'll use it to drink coffee, eat dinner, lounge, and push toy cars around with our toddler. Still, you can see into the dining room when you walk into the front door, so I don't want it to be too garish.
Would a color like SW Drizzle work?
I need to make a new list of colors so I can try another round of paint samples :)
|In a separate window, pull up SW Drizzle and put it next to a window with the pic of your rug in it. That will help a lot. |
I did so, and I have to say, I don't think they work at all together and that going that route will make your DR look too Technicolor/Disney/Eastery. Just MO, which you are welcome to ignore.
The rug is so bright and present, I think you need something softer to offset it. And blueâ€¦My favorite color for rooms is blue, by an large (esp. bedrooms), but with that rug, going blue is too saturated for the room, IMO. If you were to go the bold color route, I'd actually leave repaint it the red that was there.
|I agree with Tibbrix, that you need something softer for the room. The rug is lovely, but it's quite a saturated blue. I love color, but I think all that blue will end up being over the top.|
|How much floor space does the rug take up? And how much wall space is there? I.e. what's the fourth wall? Is that where the LR is? |
Well, we certainly don't want Disney. So, how about Celadon? It's a yummy color.
|I would use the blue rug in the living room with cream, white or taupe walls and use a version of either the dark blue or teal on the walls in the dining room with a neutral rug. You need to create some balance as the rooms are open to one another, aren't they?|
|I would stay with a softer color for the walls. Maybe even an ivory or antique white, but if you want some color maybe a soft gold that isn't quite as bold as the camel in the rug. Use the celadon and bright blue for accents in the room or upholstery on your chairs.|
|So many great suggestions. I wonder if Fun2BHere nailed it and I should put the rug in the living room with neutral walls and call it a day? I thought it might be a tight squeeze since the rug is 8'10' and the living room area is only a few feet larger than that. Plus that bright rug would be the first thing you see when you walk in the house. Maybe a picture would give a better idea of what I mean. Oh, and this pic is before we added the french doors off the rear dining room wall (as part of a major repair).|
|I think although a "white" or some sort would work, an actual color will integrate the rug into the room it's in better. It doesn't have to be a strong color, but an obvious tint of something from the rug.|
|I just did my master bedroom in SW Jersey Cream and I think it would look lovely with your rug and furniture. I'd stay with something light and bright with the dark rug and furniture. That would set them off, I think. It looks beige in some lights, and cream in others.|
Here is a link that might be useful: SW 6379 Jersey Cream
|Thanks, all! So far the best colors I've tried are SW Krypton and Sea Salt... still not totally convinced though, as they feel a bit boring. Perhaps there is too much gray in those colors? I think I've been starting at samples too long and should just make a decision and move on. After all, it's only paint :)|
|This is what I'd do if it were my rug and DR. I'd paint the walls in Benjamin Moore's Midsummer Night, which would make that gorgeous wood trim and the rug REALLY pop and look sophisticated and gorgeous. It would make the windows look like paintings (trust me, it really does). Light from a chandelier would create a wonderful mood at night in there with that color on the walls. |
I'd then hang paintings on the two walls that face each other, using gold leaf frames.
And in the windows, I'd put wood-slat blinds, satined the color of your French doors.
Don't be daunted by the Midsummer Night. it is a VERY sophisticated color and look, and it would look absolutely stunning there.
|Thanks, all! So far the best colors I've tried are SW Krypton and Sea Salt... still not totally convinced though, as they feel a bit boring. Perhaps there is too much gray in those colors? I think I've been starting at samples too long and should just make a decision and move on. After all, it's only paint :)|
|The rug is the DIVA of the room, unless you want to intense on everything: |
I would pick draperies and chair cover first, because it's harder to get that than paint colors.
Something in a camel-cream geometric? Cream-pale teal from the dragon's tail? Cream or camel with a deeper shade of that mauve/raspberry from the border?
My instinct is that a creamy raspberry on the walls might do nicely - deeper than the color in the rug by a bit. If it's a mauve, go a bit clearer and deeper.
Someone said "dated", but it goes with the rug.
|Some inspiration photos from Pinterest .... just for ideas and discussions .... |
My thought was that a rich Admiral blue from BM could work in this room because the wall space is so broken up by windows and lovely trim .....
But simple fresh white work well too -- and mimics the color of the trim -- and creates a more visually cohesive background ......
Also consider using blue (in whichever shade you might choose) in the main living area too -- maybe a large modern glass bowl on the coffee table?
Here is a link that might be useful: Pinterest -- Dark Blue dining rooms
|Here is a pic of the BM Midsummer night framing windows and with a stark blue like your rug. GOOOOORGEOUS!|
|i think you need to be careful that the walls don't look 'pastel' with that rug... i think colors that have just a hint of color have the potential to not look right/elegant unless you really have the right furniture, etc to make it 'work'... |
and the blue greens are sometimes tricky and end up looking too much like hospital scrubs even if the color is beautiful on the chip...
|The problem with the Celadon color I posted above is that it may look like tooth paste. |
I probably would either go an off white or go bold. You have plenty of windows and white trim and it would offset the more traditional vibe of the rug.
|I am not feeling the teal, celadon or lighter blue on the walls with the rug blue... |
What about going bright white or light sliver on walls and getting curtains and other accessories in the same bright blue color to match the rug.
Or go the opposite and paint the walls the same bright blue and use white curtains and other white/ bright accessories to tone it down.
|Okayâ€¦Morticia, ask yourself this question: How do I want myself and my guests to FEEL when they're in this room? |
THAT will help you pick the correct color, tone, depth, etc.
Don't focus so much on whether you LIKE a color or not, because with paint, you can be very surprised by how much you do NOT like a color you LOVE in a room, and vice versa - how much you LOVE what a color you didn't particularly care for or consider does for a room. That is the evil of paint; it plays with your mind.
This post was edited by Tibbrix on Tue, Jul 22, 14 at 11:19
|I completely agree that the colors I'm drawn too look too pastel and, well, awful in this room. Better to use them as accents or for bedroom colors. |
What an interesting suggestion to go really dark! I do love the pic with BM Midsummer Night and hadn't thought of a dark color like this, which can hold its own against the bright blue rug without adding visual chaos. It's way outside my comfort zone but totally worth a shot. I like that it brings a more modern feel to the room.
I happened to have a similar color on hand (SW Sealskin) and painted a large sample, then photoshopped the rest of it in this image.
Total change of direction! I'm going to let it sink in again and hope that my husband doesn't veto it outright. But it's great to try going down a completely different path. I'm also curious to try a dark blue.
I've heard a lot of suggestions for mauve and agree that it could look good here. But when I bought this house it was filled with mauve -- walls, trim, railings, etc... and I hated it, and am on a mission to eradicate mauve from this house once and for all.
I'm not usually so obsessive about paint colors but, yes, this rug is a diva and hard to work around. It has a lot of sentimental value since it belonged to my husband's grandmother, and when he was a little boy he asked her if he could have it someday. It has a dramatic presence - - just like she did -- and I want to find a way to do it justice.
Thanks again for all the great suggestions!
|Now tell me that chocolate brown isn't GAWGESS! |
You need a new light fixture, though. :-(
|The chocolate brown will do that rug justice because it will really make it stand out as a feature of the room, and it will help the blue in the rug look gorgeous. |
and here is your new chandelier! Honey sleeves. I know for a fact this looks fantastic in front of the chocolate brown walls. Put it on a dimmer switch.
|Oh gosh, is this going to be like the time I went to fix a leaky faucet and ended up needing a new kitchen to go with it? |
|Morticia, now you tell Gomez to cough it up! |
Victorian houses are so beautiful. Run with it.
Btw, since you already have a chandy there, you can hang it yourself, no need for an electrician, so all you have to pay for is the chandy, and it's worth it. The one you have there now is gothic and dreary looking, IMO - too heavy.
Re: Your comfort zone: I thought of the chocolate brown because your bay window/DR area is A LOT like my broker's and her husband's in their house. She asked me to come over and give her an opinion on paint color for that area (which then opens up to a large kitchen).
He is a homebuilder who builds VERY high-end la-di-da homes for gazillionaires on Cape Cod.
she and been thinking about a neutral, beigeâ€¦snore, snore, snore.
But the second I walked in there, I saw the chocolate brown on those walls, framing their windows, which face a golf course - so lots of bright green and blue sky - and doors. I told her to brace herself because it was SO different than what she was picturing, I thought she'd balk.
Her husband walked in, and she told him about the chocolate brown idea. He nodded. They had it done over the next couple of weeks, and wellâ€¦you should see it. It is absolutely stunning. I mean STUNNING. They LOVE it and told me everyone was commenting on it and how amazing it looks. I started even getting calls from a few of their friends asking if I'd be willing to look at their places, based on how gorgeous that brown looks in their kitchen (and these are all the creme de la creme hoity-toities, unlike me).
they have a chandy like the one I posted above ,and it looks amazing against the backdrop of the chocolate brown, and the honey sleeves really stand out against it.
So beautiful. It's such a great color. It does make a room look more contemporary but still warm, which is unusual for contemporary, which is usually colder and more austere.
This post was edited by Tibbrix on Tue, Jul 22, 14 at 12:52
|I know I'm being obsessive here, but this is my favorite pic of BM Midsummer night and what it can do for a room.|
Here is a link that might be useful: Midsummer Night
|The dark wall color for dining room... I'd have to say |
YES. I have that and it's wonderfully moody in the evenings. We eat dinner in there every night and I also get compliments on the "feeling" when we have guests. Now, one friend doesn't like it as much because she's anti-dark walls. I hung several pieces of art, a pretty chandelier, and love it. Mine is also a deep, dark blue that's almost black. It's a low light room that started out with a light color and it looked dreary.
|Tibbrix, dare I ask where one might purchase that chandelier?|
|That particular one, turns out (pure coincidence, I swear) is from aceiron.com, which happens to be where I got mine. I honestly didn't realize it when I picked it for a pic as an example of what I think would look great in your DR. |
Clayton Bryant makes these by hand, they are true wrought iron chandeliers, and they are gorgeous. He's in Maine. His stuff is really amazing. Link to his site is below.
However, that style of chandelier is quite common and shouldn't be hard to find elsewhere. I would say, though, that if you can avoid it, don't get the knockoffs; get the real wrought iron chandy. It really does make a difference. And you can always get the sleeves from Clayton. He has beeswax sleeves, honey, whiteâ€¦He makes authentic chandeliers.
He will also help you with sizing and height to hang.
My chandy is from him, and if/when I decide to replace it, I'll get another from him.
Here is a link that might be useful: aceiron chandeliers/ Clayton Bryant
This post was edited by Tibbrix on Tue, Jul 22, 14 at 16:29
|Also, be sure to click on his Facebook page on his site. Wonderful pics of the chandeliers he's made and where they've gone (look at the pic of the pub with all of those chanties on the ceiling! He made all of them!). |
there's one on there i"m trying to find for you which I LOVE. It came out after I ordered mine, but if I'd seen that one, I would have gotten it instead of the one I got. I'll post the pic if I find it.
|Found it! Not sure if you'd need a six arm or an eight arm, but I LOVE the curls at the top of this one and think they'd be great in a Victorian house. I love this chandy. It's custom, so certainly pricier. Don't know the price, though.|
|Thanks, I appreciate the chandelier info! |
Aaaaand my darling husband just unilaterally vetoed dark paint colors, especially brown. Yay.
|How about revisiting the idea of a camel? If you opt for a a shade that's a bit paler than the floor you'd avoid the problem of having walls that are almost-but-not-quite the same as the floor. Something like the shade that the Greek key border strip looks like in the photo of the living room in your old house could be nice.|
|While the chandy that tibbrix posted is very nice, whenever I see the bare arched arms like that and candles, I think colonial, not victorian... |
When I think victorian chandy, I think of the gas lamp look with some curly cues.
|Yep, definitely going to revisit camel, mauve, yellow, and any other color besides those pastel blues and greens. |
Don't laugh, I'm not 100% sure what color camel is. Can you provide an example paint color?
I'm going to get more samples, this time only colors that are outside of my hospital-scrub-toothpaste-colored comfort zone. And let my husband's veto of dark colors be damned. I'm thinking:
SW Jersey Cream
SW Truly Taupe
BM Midsummer Night
BM Admiral Blue
Any others I should add to the list?
As far as chandeliers go, I just can't do ornate. Even though the house is Victorian, it's more shingle style/farmhouse than Queen Anne. Overall I'd like to go for a more Cape Cod summer house feel. I'm just not quite sure how to get there! Or maybe it just won't work with the things I have and I should embrace traditional instead (boring).
Thanks for putting up with me. As silly as it is, I feel overwhelmed with whipping the interior of this house into shape and should maybe just hire a designer to help.
|Oh, helloooooo? Cape Codder here! |
I have to say, you'd be hard pressed to find a rug like that on Cape Cod as it is WAY off the Cape Cod style chartâ€¦.like China v. US on a world map off the chart! However, that is the focal point, so let's see if we can get you to Cape Cod on the magic Chinese carpet!
Cape Cod colors are obviously blue (sea); beige (sand); yellow (sun). (FYI: that kitchen of my broker's with the BM Midsummer Night is on Cape Cod. And the wrought iron chandeliers are staples on CC).
To make that are (don't say LOOK ,say FEEL) more Cape Cod, this is what I would suggest:
In this case, stay away from blue for the walls. that rug is SO blue, and not only will blue walls actually detract from your diva rug, but that room will be sickeningly blue, just too much, IMO. Go with either the soft yellow in Peony's pic at the top of the thread, OR a sand color (snore) OR the Midsummer Night presented by moi and get a divorce; there IS a chance you'll like the Midsummer Night brown better than DH, you know!
Nextâ€¦well, not next. Do this first, actually: paint the French Doors white (I think you should anyway to match the wood trim elsewhere);
Get white cordless wood slat blinds for the windows;
Reupholster the chair seats, maybe using that yellow of Peony's;
Get the chandy from Clayton;
Paint the DR chairs either a strong blue, a la the rug, or black to sit well with the table base;
Put a vase with blue hydrangeas on the table;
Some framed posters, or paintings, of seascapes;
Voila! Cape Cod with a little Shanghai diva thrown in!
|Go dark! Go dark!! I love it. I am all about boldness though, so take that for what it is worth. Your rug is gorgeous and will be the center stage in a dark room. Love it!|
|And at some point, put some crown moulding up there! Crown moulding makes ALL the difference in a room.|
|Or, maybe I'm just going about this all wrong and it's like saying I want to go MCM when neither the house nor my furnishings are the right style. Sigh. |
Yes, the rug is as anti-Cape Cod as can be! And so is most of our furniture, so maybe it's time for me to find a new vision for the house.
I'll try to make a case for going dark. Anything besides the light blue that my husband insists is the only right color. Or I'll just give up and live with random paint swatches on my walls forever! Yeesh. But great suggestions for trying to achieve the feel I'm going for. Thanks so much!
|First of all, stop using the word "dark". "Dark" does not reflect at all what the Midsummer Night does to a room. It does not darken a room. It makes a room/rug/windows, etc. actually stand out. |
When you have little wall area due to windows, doors and paintings, that is an opportunity to use a very saturated, below 50% LRV color on a wall. Your husband is freaking out likely because he's imagining a cave, which IS the case when such colors are used on large wall area. That is, in fact, the thing about those kinds of colors: they are either disastrous or absolutely stunning, no in between. In your case, it would be stunning. Your rendition using the Seal Skin is in fact exactly what it would look like.
Use words like "rich" instead. You can see from the photo of my favorite MSN pic that that room is NOT in fact dark. It is light and airy and wonderful. But at night, with correct lighting, it is warm and rich and elegant. Your windows become paintings; the gorgeous wood trim of a Victorian is showcased, as it should be; and of course, your rug would really stand out.
I'd say go bold; live with it for a while, and you can always repaint. But my guess is you won't. OR, you can play it safe. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzâ€¦lol.
NO BLUE. and I LOVE blue walls, but not with that rug. It wold be like living in an Easter egg.
|And if you do get a chandy from Clayton/Ace Iron, I'd get the antique gold sleeves rather than the honey. Oo la la, gorgeous.|
|Camel is the color of ... a camel. : ) Sort of golden? Just try to match the border color. |
I can see your rug in a Cape Cod house, easy. IMHO Cape Cod is also very traditional, and your rug is traditional.
|Captain Bangs Hallet House, Cape Cod |
"The parlors are arranged as if the captain was just returning from his voyage to China, likely 16 to 18 months duration. His gifts of silk fabric, toys, porcelain, lacquered pieces and tea are on display ...."
Maybe BM Golden Tan? It's more yellow, but I think would work with the rug.
|oh, btw, i reccommended Camel with the rug, but that was before I knew you wanted a Cape Cod feel. |
I might go toward grey for Cape Cod. I think of Cape Cod as sort of a washed out colonial
|Gold and blue are a great combination - see my first post here, which suggested gold - but you will forfeit the Cape Cod feel, so keep that in mind.|
|Camel color |
Sorry...I couldn't resist.
Used to LOVE a camel coat when I was a young girl....
now I'm more into caramel. Yum!
|Gray, huh? Well that's one of the few colors my husband will agree to, so I may have to go down that (rather unexciting) path. |
Thanks for the camel examples... funny how I had always thought of camel as a fancy name for tan, but now I see the nuance.
Nosoccermom, that's so interesting about Cape Cod captains' journeys to China, I hadn't thought of that. This rug was purchased (I believe) in China, and we have several Chinese landscape paintings, plus lots of porcelain and other items. I could go totally over the top on this room and make it into a sort of captain's showcase... but, uh, should probably practice some restraint :)
|I love blue and white China. |
Honestly, I would go with a more modern color to counteract the traditional furniture. Maybe revisit Maxi Teal or a slightly more muted shade of it.
Or what about BM Palladian Blue?
|I think the rug and accessories should 'do the talking ' and keep,the walls neutral. Blue and white pottery would be stunning! I just went thru this with DD who moved into a new home and unlike myself, loves color! I tried explaining you don't want everything competing, and the eyes need 'a place to rest', so keep the walls in the public spaces a neutral color. Surprisingly, she listened to me ! The walls are a deep warm tan, and she 's using red and eggplant for accessories. Originally she wanted gold walls, but I told her to visualize McDonald's. She did colors in the bedrooms!|
This post was edited by mrsgomez on Wed, Jul 23, 14 at 16:06
|Well, how about you put that rug down and take a picture when the room is reasonably lit with day light. Then upload it on the BM or SW web site and play around with various paint colors. |
You basically have a traditional rug and traditional furniture, but you'd like a less traditional/formal vibe. So, you'd probably need to go with a less traditional wall color. I'd also get a less traditional light fixture.
A direction other than bold/dramatic:
Neutral paint and new seat covers, and wall treatment that has some blue with it, and blue and white accessories.
Or put the rug in the living room and get a more casual rug for the DR.
Check out the link below to Phoebe Howard's Blue Beach House
Here is a link that might be useful: Blue beach house
This post was edited by nosoccermom on Wed, Jul 23, 14 at 17:10
|Just came across these Coastal Blues, see link below. |
For example, BM Gossamer Blue
Here is a link that might be useful: coastal blues
|Nosoccermom has given you some great choices, and I agree re:keeping the walls a neutral color. Sure makes everything *pop*!|
|A silver color on the walls (from the top of the stylized waves on the area rug) .... and silver accents around the whole room .....|
Here is a link that might be useful: BM -- Silver Lining 2119-60
|.... and a modern but still classic chandelier .....|
Here is a link that might be useful: Bellacor -- possible chandelier
|Oh, I like teacats's silver idea.|
|I would love to see a slightly glossy finish to the silvery walls -- with the new chandelier -- and fresh fabric on the chair seats ..... |
This same paint color might work well in the living room too .... with silver-and-glass table lamps?
Here's a Pinterest pin board with inspiration photos of silver dining rooms -- just for ideas and discussions ....
Here is a link that might be useful: Pinterest -- silver dining room
|Here's a really interesting color chenille fabric (modern tone but textured solid) that would work with the tones in the rug -- and with the silver walls and accent pieces ....|
Here is a link that might be useful: Fabricguru -- possible dining chair fabric
|nosoccermom, love the coastal blues! SO much better than those bland blues I kept picking out. And brilliant suggestion to actually, ahem, put down the carpet to see what it would look like in the room. I've been photoshopping to my heart's content ever since! The Maxi Teal is pretty fabulous, and I still think the dark brown is cool, too. In the end a lighter shade of teal might be a good compromise.|
|Neutral, I like it in theory, but... yawn. |
And yes, the chair fabric has got to go!
|The neutral only seems boring because the room hasn't been accessorized. None of the colors seem "right" yet.|
|Just for fun and comparison ..... try a photoshopped version with this blue -- but imagine it with a slight sheen to add a modern edge ..... |
.... plus the modern silver chandelier .......
Here is a link that might be useful: BM -- Blue 2066-10
|Don't think the blues/teals work at all and in fact clash with the rug. |
Of course I love the chocolate brown and think it makes the rug look beautiful.
Can you photoshop in teacats's silver? Also, can you photoshop in, on the silver and the midsummer night, white on the French doors?
And, try a lighter yellow, more like the yellow in Peony's early post.
This post was edited by Tibbrix on Thu, Jul 24, 14 at 16:53
|Blue with the modern chandelier... kinda nice! Accessories do make all the difference. |
Yellow... pretty, but not for me.
The doors have to stay brown -- they match the pocket doors to the living room and the swinging door to the kitchen. I'm open to any other changes though!
|Try a compromise -- a softer, greyed teal -- along the lines of those swirls and dots in the edge of the rug or into what I and someone above are thinking is a dragon's tail. |
Was the wall below the window painted a darker grey in the first photos? I thought that was a possibility. I like the lighter grey above, but you could go a little -- or maybe not so little, deeper too.
Also, did you try the navy blue? I kept imagining navy walls with a champagne gold ceiling yesterday -- about the color the edge of your rug appears in these last photos. And then a pale beige, maybe a paler with a bit of beige or blue on the chair seats. With all those windows, you really might want to at least look at fabrics or materials for WTs before committing to a paint color. Fabrics can be harder to match to paint that the other way around. And it will look different when you get something on the windows, art on the walls, etc.
If you go cocoa or navy, I would definitely want glass or crystal in the chandelier. The wrought iron works with the lighter colors, but I'm not sure if the white or beige candles would be enough to brighten it up for mew against the darker colors on the walls.
I feel what you are going through. I have taken all the pink out of two houses. This one even had the DR walls painted a mauve rose on top of all the floral and paisley wallpapers. All the other walls had a light mauve wall paint (previous house was similar but with a little more lavender in the color) The master had rose carpet and my son's bathroom had 3 different rose tiles an 2 shades of rose grout. Once you've done that, it's very hard to think of living with the color again. But at least it didn't have pink laminate and tile in the kitchen like one house we saw. I have two boys, but if they someday give me granddaughters, I will pick my pink things very carefully. ;)
|lascatx, I think a silver chandy would look nice against the chocolate, but I just wanted to say that, I have friends who have the Midsummer Night on walls just like this - dining area with large windows, and they have the wrought iron chandy with the antique gold sleeves, and it's gorgeous against the brown. It's counter-intuitive, because it does seem like it'd get lost amongst the brown walls, but it doesn't.|
|Here's a round mirror for the wall next to the doors -- AND it has a Greek Key detail that matches the one in the area rug ......|
Here is a link that might be useful: Bellacor - silver greek key mirror
|Not feeling the yellow -- and I have a lot of yellow in my house. |
I like the chocolate and the lighter blue/aqua. The first teal isn't really the maxi teal is it? The MT seems greener.
The neutral would probably look nice with different seat covers and drapes, etc.
The darker blue looks too purple on my screen. How about this:
And can you photoshop gray? I also wonder if a very dark blue would work.
|mrsgomez, I know I'm responding late in the thread - like this is SO yesterday :) ..... |
I painted my family room SW Sealskin last year. I LOVE it - it completely transformed the room. But just so other posters know, it's definitely not a chocolate brown, it's a dark charcoal grey. My black wood stove almost fades into the background now! It is dramatic but neutral and did I say I love it?
|Midsummer Night LRV = 6.93 |
SW Sealskin = 6
Teacats's blue is 5.08, which is surprising that it has a lower LRV than both chocolate browns.
Midsummer Night and Sealskin are pretty close, but the Midsummer Night does have more chocolate brown in it, and yet I know that it is a very dark dark brown, so the Sealskin really must be closing in on black.
|Maybe this artwork next to the door?|
Here is a link that might be useful: Bellacor -- possible artwork
|Another artwork ..... many of the colors in the area rug|
Here is a link that might be useful: Bellacor -- another one
|I like the mirror teacats found. That's fun. |
Definitely not yellow, and that blue isn't right either. I think that if a blue is going to work, you need to go deep. Is the border of the rug actually darker than the center or is that the way the light is falling on it?
But going back to the grey/brown ideas, take a look at the colors on this blog page --
Here is a link that might be useful: Best 6 Dark Paint Colors
|It's true, the Sealskin paint is almost charcoal gray. I'm using it on the (formerly mauve) staircase railings but it's a gorgeous wall color in the right room. Alas, one that my husband won't even consider. Or any shade of dark brown for that matter. |
These are his two top choices. I hate the camel-brown, don't mind the navy, although it seems extremely formal to me.
So we're at an impasse. Although I'm not sure he gets a say anymore.... A few days ago I painted a bedroom wall green (it was a hideous salmon color) and he has yet to notice, despite being in the room several times and looking right at the wall. Men!
Maybe I'll just paint the dining room chocolate brown and hope he doesn't notice :)
|You know, I've painted my son's room Gray Owl from stark white and he didn't notice for about three days. |
Don't like the camel, either. I do like the navy, especially if you add some lighter curtains, blue and white pottery, mirror, art work.
Is this kind of color out:
What about this chandelier?
It seems suspiciously inexpensive at Overstock but has very good reviews.
Here is a link that might be useful: navy dining rooms
|I'm sorry, but I have to say I don't like the navy (or the camel). The rug color is more a royal blue, i.e.: a warm blue and the navy is a whole other blue, and IMO, they clash. I also, again, think it is just too much saturation of blue. |
Like NSM's chandy and think it would look great in your dining alcove.
I do think you should paint those French doors the same color as the trim, regardless of what color you paint the walls.
If you go with the chocolate brown, consider painting the chairs silver. If you go with a light color, I'd paint them black. The silver will compliment the glass top, and the black will go with the base.
Btw, it is sounding to me like you have made up your mind and that you really want to do it in the Midsummer Night. It's not a lot of wall area, so you're not investing a whole lot in paint here. You can paint it in the color you want, get it all set up with the new chandy, painted chairs, artwork, live with it for a month (or some agreed-upon time limit) and if your husband (or you, for that matter) still really doesn't like it, you can always repaint it.
|I'm glad you agree that my husband's preferred colors are no good :) |
I don't really have my mind made up. At this point the only two colors I can get excited about are some shade of green/blue/turquoise/teal (definitely not off the table, nosoccermom!) and dark brown. Honestly I do prefer some color.
One reason I'm hemming and hawing is that we planned to get the room professionally painted, so we don't want to have to re-do. Maybe I'll scrap that plan and just paint it myself, then I won't feel so bad if I want to re-do it later. Maybe I'll do half teal, half brown and see what wins :)
|You'll notice the colors that have been posted from Houzz or otherwise from Internet show *other* spaces with very different features than what you have--and certainly different flooring and rug colors (with the exception being NSM's gray wall photo above). |
Disregard, for a moment, the color of your rug, and consider its tone, which is dark and dramatic. A balanced room will have light, medium and dark tones. Just like a room with white walls, light flooring, and neutral furniture, can be too bland, as a former discussion noted, a room with dark walls, dark flooring, and dark furniture can be bland, too. You already have the latter 2 in your space.
Your best bet is to keep plugging colors, as you have been doing, into *your* space, but experiment with lighter colors, too, that don't compete with your rug, which, as someone so rightly put it, is the "diva" of the room.
|To be honest, I have a blue bias, but I do like the darkest blue the best. I gives a backdrop and a reason for the blue in the rug without fighting it or making all the colors too bold. Pull a lighter color from the rug (I'd go gold or a soft aqua) for the chair seats. White or pale, pale gold for the curtains. |
I think it is possible you can find a light or dark grey or possibly a brown, and I think there maybe a champagne gold or pale peach/apricot that might work on the walls if it didn't go too pink for you but I like the dark blue the best -- but maybe not that exact shade.
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