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What makes women look 'good' when they're 'older'

Posted by gibby3000 (My Page) on
Wed, Apr 25, 12 at 15:09

At the airport today I saw an "older" woman who looked really good. No idea how old she was but she was definitely aging gracefully as they say and I was thinking about what it was about her. She had gray hair, obviously aging skin that was natural, not plastic. She was thin, had a nice haircut, some makeup but light, and a nice tasteful understated outfit. I was thinking it would be nice to look that good as I get older. I don't think I'm going to have good looking gray hair though.


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It does help to have been beautiful when younger.

But, sad to say, thin done well goes a long way towards looking good.


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I think it's a positive aura or happy vibes as I like to call them. I also feel that low exposure to the sun and living smoke free helps too. So far I've been lukki with gray hair, I'm 53 and only have a small patch that looks like a blond streak; the rest of my hair is still the natural color I was born with.


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I would say she has confidence (no need for cockiness or diva-ness), accepts her age and doesn't desperately try to look like a twenty-something with hair, makeup, and clothes (but hasn't given up either!) and is reasonably fit.


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A quietly self-assured confidence.

A pleasant countenance. Nothing ages a face more than a perpetual scowl.

Evidence that she "keeps herself" well ... A simple but stylish haircut, meticulously applied makeup, manicured nails (not talons and not necessarily polished - just cared for).

Clothes that fit well and flatter her body.

A fit, toned physique. She doesn't have to look like a buff athlete, but I do think a well-toned body says that she is active and interested in healthy pursuits. That said, I think that older women often look better with just a little more weight on them than they may have carried in their younger years. Older women who are too thin tend to look tired and haggard.

Interesting topic, especially since I turn 50 this year and have been pondering thoughts of aging gracefully.


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First, I think we have to define "older." Fifty is not "older" from my perspective! I'm chuckling in my harumphing, jen.

I think whatever makes a woman attractive when she is young usually carries over while she ages. It is never attractive, no matter what age she is, imho, to see a tattooed, pierced, obviously dyed-haired, micro miniskirted woman in a tight top with long garish claws and tons of makeup. But the woman herself must think she looks good, or why would she do all that to herself?

Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, that is for sure!


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Every idea listed here makes perfect sense to me!

I agree with Sunny about the weight issue. Too thin is aging! Demi Moore (my age) has become WAY too thin in a misguided effort to look young. Sunken cheeks just aren't youthful looking, Demi!

As others have stated or implied, the degree to which one is trying to look young or young-er usually results in actually looking older, generally speaking. Trying hard to be something we're not just backfires miserably. Owning our age (we all have to grow up sometime!)and making an effort to look and feel our personal, unique best is a winner!

Lukki's point about having and presenting positive energy can't be overestimated! Energy is everything! We're either sending out negative vibes or positive vibes, and guess what comes right back at us...whatever vibe we're putting out there! Stopping the "Stinkin' Thinkin'" helps us to feel better, look better, and BE better.


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To quote Sherrmann - "fifty is not older." I would love to be fifty again and know what I know now.

Speaking strictly physically:

Bandbox clean and neat.

A great haircut and, if the gray isn't good, then some color.

Nothing clingy if you're fluffy.

Flattering colors. Soft turquoise and aqua look pretty on almost everyone. Certain blues and grays and mauves are not good.

Less makeup. A touch of blush, pink/coral lipstick, and groomed eyebrows that are enhanced, if necessary.

Big glamorous sunglasses.

Pearls. Especially pearl drop earrings!


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Too thin is, of course, aging, but too fat is the norm and why someone who gets it right is unusual.
And I'm talking about the people around us daily, not celebrities!
It's sad, but I'll probably never have good looking nails do to constant gardening.

But it's the whole package that catches our eye typically. I've been studying older women for a decade now trying to pinpoint the clues.


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I didn't see anyone mention posture, and I think that's KEY for an older woman -- younger ones, too.

And nothing beats a pleasant expression and if possible, a twinkle in the eye.


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I agree with much of the above, and when I see a woman like gibby has described I often think, "Yes, that's how I want to do it when I'm that age!" My role models in my own family -- well, my grandmother wore a housecoat almost 24/7, and my mother didn't live to be old (she died at 55) but she was never really stylish. Think double-knit polyester pant suits. For casual, elastic-waist jeans and a Cape Cod sweatshirt.

I like older women who have a sense of "cool" about them. We live in an urban area with a lot of colleges, so I see a lot of older college-professor types who have good haircuts (usually a pixie type cut or a bob), no perms or rollers!, subtle makeup, and interesting/artsy jewelry. Black slacks or jeans with a black turtleneck, maybe? or Eileen Fisher style clothing?

I have already noticed that when someone takes a picture of me when I'm not smiling, I look older than I do when I'm smiling. I'm not a smiley person in general -- I am happy, I just forget to smile! But I'm working on it, if only in the interest of aging gracefully!


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I have never bought beauty books in my life, but at the Christmas sales I picked up a copy of a book called "Grown-up glamour: how to age fabulously-by the women who got it right" by Caroline Cox.

It's full of little tips from which concealer to use to which restaurant to eat in when in Madrid. Much of what has been mentioned above is also in the book (posture, nails, sunscreen and just say no to botox)


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Sweeby, I was just going to mention posture. So very important.

People just look better when they stand up straight. I think I notice this because my posture is awful..

ML


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Well groomed, healthy, stylishly dressed, self assured. When I see such women at airports etc. they always seem to look poised and well rested in contrast with the women rushing about, hair disheveled, bags over filled, looking stressed and tired.

I have always noticed and admired the cool, stylish women but I am sadly not one of them!


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Intersting topic. I certainly can't disagree with anything said so far!
I think that as we age (I am approaching, yikes, 58) we need to pay closer attention to grooming. I hardly wore make up through my thirties and forties. Fifty was the turning point. I had to start coloring my hair, and I do see a difference when i don't wear makeup. (Not lots, just enough to cover dark circles and to add some color.)
Trying not to be sloppy and wearing stylish clothing that fits is more important.
I have noticed that as I have aged, my lips turn down at the corners. I think this is why you do look better and younger when you smile. Everything lifts up!


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Not trying too hard to look too young.


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Many great suggestions above - smiling, posture, well groomed everything - create a polished image regardless of age but are particularly important to the older woman, IMO.

I also think the adage 'less is more' applies as we age. It's the rare 'older' woman who can get away with piles of makeup, lots of chunky jewelry, big fashion statements or big hair. There are exceptions, of course and generally I think it's women who have bigger than life personalities and outward appearance in their younger years who can continue it as they age. For the rest of us, less is more and quality over quantity helps create an image that is pulled together and vibrant.

And of course, doing what we can to feel good physically makes anything else we do to look younger work better. Remaining physically active in whatever manner works for you is crucial to health.


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About to turn 60 on Friday...I would say good posture and a smile.


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Wishing you a very happy 60th, Cyn! Hope you smile all day!!!

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I agree a smile says it all. Happy birthday Cyn !! This link takes you to someone that I admire tremendously. If I can be like her with that big smile when I am her age I will count it as a success.

Have never put on makeup other than mascara since the 70's. Can "clean up nice" and do sometimes. But for my life as I live it now I am likely to have 2-3 outfits that I wear every day for months LOL. I think it is what is inside that makes the person. It shows through like a plate glass window.

Great thread. c

Here is a link that might be useful: Barbara Macklow


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Loved your post, trailrunner.

Happy Birthday, Cyn!


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I really think it's got to be about the hair. I don't care if it's colored or gone gray, a GOOD haircut is essential to older ladies looking spiffy.

My mother is 72 and I was looking at her the other day, she looks amazing for her age. She has a great (for her) shorter hair cut and always wears bright clothes. She dresses age appropriately...but the other day she was over for a visit and she was wearing jeans! I thought she looked so cute, they fit well and she was wearing a cute top. She definitely is not one to do a meticulous job about make up, she's in dire need of a manicure, and she needs to lose about 50 lbs, but she also has an aura about her that makes her stand out from the crowd.

Compared to other women in her group, many who are younger, she really appears youthful and nice looking. Too many of the women either get that tight permed 'set' or they let their gray hair grow long and they pull it back in a bun or something. Both very aging. And my grandmothers, both in their 90's are meticulous about getting their hair done in a nice, natural style.


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I have to say that I saw a woman in the pharmacy today who had the worst facelift. Ugh. It was so obvious, it only made her look older.

I agree trim and well-groomed looks wonderful. I love pretty gray hair. The Silver Fox look!


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#1 Vitality!
#2 Good taste and grooming!
#3 Money


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Good teeth. Get them straightened, If needed and
Affordable. Bleaching is a must for most over 50. and nothing is more youthful
than a big, white smile. I see otherwise attractive
Women ('and men) with discolored teeth and wonder why on earth . Such an easy ( in most cases) fix.


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This is a great discussion. I am turning 50 this summer and have been thinking about my appearance. I want to look as good as I can without extreme interventions.

Last year I cut off all my dyed hair and let the grey show. Once I did that I had to pay better attention to makeup.I saw a picture of myself without it and I looked faded out and tired (even if I didn't feel that way). I am considering some kind of chemical peel or laser treatment -- nothing involving cutting -- to reduce some sun-related discoloration on my face. If anyone has any experience with those treatments, I'd love to know. I had my teeth bleached at the dentist and it was expensive, but it was a big improvement and again, did not involve cutting. Oh, I've also started to appreciate how much good earrings or a nice scarf or necklace distracts from my sagging eyelids and creased skin and am wearing accessories more often.

All these things require some output of cash so I second the poster who said "money" makes women look good! You also need time. I can't just run out of the house in the morning (I was the girl who rolled out of bed in a ponytail for everything!) There's all that tweezing (hair growing in all the wrong places!)

When I look more presentable I'm happier and more confident. Of course, this is true at any age, it's just that it every year the amount of work needed to achieve that increases. Which is why my husband always says he's SO glad he's not a woman...

Oh, and it also takes a GREAT magnifying mirror.


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"Too thin is, of course, aging, but too fat is the norm..." I agree with you, Bumblebeez, but this must be a regional thing too. I find myself living in a neighborhood among a number of middle-aged exercise fanatics who don't appear to eat very often! I get it that exercise is healthy, but Seriously. I see so many emaciated, deeply tanned (leathery) middle-aged bodies... it's pretty much the norm in my environs.


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I was just reminded of the last time I was in one of our local nail salons. There is a hair salon next door, so I guess this woman was getting her hair done and in the middle of the process, came over to get a pedicure. Anyway, I walked in and noticed this woman getting her pedi, and she had curlers in her hair. My immediate assumption was that she must be about 70+. I didn't look closely because frankly, I wanted to laugh that someone was out with curlers in her hair. But I ended up sitting very near her while I was getting my mani, and looked at her face and realized she actually was probably in her late 50s! She had no lines on her face, really, but what made her look old was, first, of course, the rollers. I had no idea that anyone under 70 actually got their hair "set" any more. Second, she had heavy makeup on, which aged her. Finally, she had elastic-waist, old-lady-looking capris on. She was actually very attractive but she almost looked retro to me, but not in a purposeful, fun way! I kept thinking, wow, she could look awesome, probably 10 years younger than her actual age, if she just did something more modern with her hair, makeup, and clothing. Oh, and PS, she wasn't smiling at all, and actually had a sort of snooty aura about her.

I am no fashion/beauty expert for sure, but I do find that as I get older, I think about this more and I also notice more how other woman are "handling" their older age.


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Comfortable in her own skin.
Accepting of others.
Content.

I believe that what's on the inside of a person is radiated to the outside. So my mother was right, "Pretty is as pretty does." This obviously applies whatever the age of the person.


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Bumble, I have to respectfully disagree about the beauty and thin remarks. I've seen many beautiful women who have not aged well, mainly due to some things mentioned here! Sun, smoking, not eating well, mainly basically not taking care of themselves. As for thin, well I think "healthy" is much more appealing. I am curvy and thin does not look good on me. Neither does overweight though - but a healthy weight in between the too. Being too thin when you're older can be aging, but so can extra weight.

I agree with so much that's been said, taking care of oneself, being well groomed - brows, HANDS, nails, etc. make a huge difference - as does hair and make-up. Being careful in the sun, with what we eat, exercising, etc. Not wearing frumpy clothing (Oh Sue - I so agree about the frumpy capris!!!)

Attitude is so important, being content, confident, etc. Posture!!! Some good thoughts here . . .

tina


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Bumble I do agree about too thin being aging. I have a friend who became very obsessed with her weight right around the time she knew a divorce was in her future. My friend is 62 and after she became real skinny her skin just hung on her face like an ole Shar Pei and really aged her. This gal has always been physically active and fit and looked so good and healthy at a mid weight. She thinks she looks great as a stick and will obsess if she puts on two pounds.


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Yes, we all know some celebrity examples of beauties who didn't age well for all the reasons you state, Tina. I also know some personal examples! So many of the ladies here at GW are proof positive of living balanced, healthy lives.

Sure, we'll all have days when we feel like "giving UP" and eat the whole pie or box of cookies or whatever! There will be days when we feel like we're just going down hill, so what's the point...(stinkin' thinkin'?)

We must not let days like that discourage us though! We can get up, brush ourselves off, and get back to our good habits. To not be fanatical and obsessed, but have a healthy concern for ourselves, is key, imo.


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Good health.


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The only thing I meant about the correct thin part is that while a woman may be well groomed, have the right spunky hair, clothes, etc. if she is NOT thin then it usually doesn't make me look twice.
But, a thin, fit woman who can get it all right- and they don't have to be physically beautiful- is usually an eye catcher.
I will have big hips no matter how thin I get, and frankly, I probably won't ever be really thin ( I like to eat too much), and my body bone structure and curves will always be there.


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Bumble as a hip-less person (straight up and down) I say you are lucky to have hips.


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Bumble - we saw your pic and you are beautiful just as you are! Me personally (and I think most MEN would agree LOL), I would rather see some curves and softness, even toned muscles. Thin has been over-emphasized in my humble opinion.
Those of us with curves need to embrace them!!! HEE!!

tina


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Judith, I have had "sun spots" removed from my face. The doctor froze the spots with something similar to dry ice. They looked pretty bad for a few days, then got scabby and then peeled off, leaving the clear skin. I was really glad I did it. They were entirely healed in 10 days and could be covered with round bandaids on the yucky days.


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So funny and nice, Jerri and Tina!


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Yes, I saw your pic too, Bumblebeez, and you certainly don't look fat...at all! You're lovely, and your hair is amazing! Who needs slim hips when you have hair like that! But also, if one day you want to crop off all that hair and go really short, you could carry that off too. You're very attractive, but we women tend to focus on what we perceive as flaws.

Now go write a list of 10 things you think are beautiful about yourself and think about those things all day!


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Did any of you save the thread where we posted our pictures? I lost mine when I switched computers.

When I was out and about this morning I was looking at all the women around me thinking about this topic. lol.

I wore my B. Kliban cat tee & blue jeans. :)

Below is a picture of Candace Bergen who is aging gracefully. She's put on a few pounds, no work on her face and she's lovely. A bit of a double chin, but she still looks nice.

From my own observation, women above 50 who are very thin look older. Unless they get botox, which I have nothing against.

It's really the whole package, and not necessarily being thin or heavy. Good grooming, nice make-up, posture, and a little bling. I love to wear tee's and jeans/shorts/capris but I wear a little bracelet too when I'm doing errands.

In the summer I think a tan is beautiful, providing it's not the leathery type. Which is why I use "Fake Bake." lol I highly recommend it! I have that English skin and will never get the bronzed look, and thankfully my skin will handle tan lotions.

Here's Candace.

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Nice pic of Candace, Oak! She looks great! You'd look super with your hair like that!


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Dressing age appropriate. I think it looks silly and screams 'age' louder if you're wearing something from the juniors dept. - even if you're not exposing skin.

I think it can vary from person to person but I agree with things mentioned already above. Clothing, makeup, hair, etc. all needs adjusted with age.

I've always noticed appearances and find myself facinated when I see an older women looking all put together. It doesn't seem to happen very often here. I find that I'm ok to compliment 'stuff' (earrings, shoes, hair, etc.) but there have been times I wanted to compliment the woman as a whole but didn't know quite how to go about it without sounding like a weirdy.


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Sheesharee, how about, "I love the way you have pulled yourself together! It's really inspiring to see a woman over 35 (keep the # low, lol!) looking so great!"

You might add something as you did here about how you don't see women in your area making much of an effort and you just want to say it's appreciated. You could also ask her a specific question like, where she shops for clothes, where she found her earrings or where she gets her hair cut. Someone asked me once if I took special vitamins! I took that as a compliment.

Believe me, such a conversation would give 9 out of 10 women a lift! There may be the occasional person who'd feel intruded upon.


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You want aging gracefully? I've got your aging gracefully right here:

Dame Mirren is an absolute knockout.

I also have a hard time believing that this one is 49. Wow.


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Whenever I happen upon Wheel of Fortune I remember that Vanna and I are both the same age - 55 this year


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Hmm, I have the same birthday (and year) as Russell Crowe. He has not improved but I always feel a little kinship with him because of the shared birthday.


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Not improved?


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Stinky - I like that comment. The second part is the extra piece of the conversation I was looking for. Thanks! I had someone tell me maybe people wouldn't know what "pulled together" meant but I thought it was pretty self explanitory.


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There is an older woman in my town I see occasionally. I find my self looking at her in hopes that she will see me and smile.

I'm guessing she is in her 80's. Probably about 30 pounds overweight. Totally gray hair with a braid that reaches her hips. She never wears makeup or nail polish but very manicured. She wears big chunky silver jewelery and flowing linen or flax clothing in mostly neutral and white. She's got that twinkle in her blue eyes too.

She smiles and speaks to everyone. I know she's a baker and has a bunch of grandkids because I helped her reach some flour at the grocery store once and we had a brief but wonderful conversation.

She's probably the most beautiful woman I've ever met.


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Glad that was helpful, Shee. It's so nice of you to want to reach out and offer some words of kindness. Remember, if people don't receive your gift gracefully, that's no reflection on you. What's important is that you want to step up and share something nice. Some people just have bad manners, but most will be delighted you noticed and appreciated them! (Hope all is with you these days. You need to give us an update!)

SunnyCottage, yes, Helen Mirren just oozes confidence, inner beauty, outer beauty, intelligence, talent...you name it! Elle is fabulous and apparently ageless, indeed.


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Okay, I was just in our town center and saw a woman who was a good example for this topic! She was probably 65. Was wearing a navy and white striped top and jeans, pretty basic outfit, with a neat short haircut, salt and pepper. What made her interesting was that she was also wearing funky pear green clogs and a jazzy pair of glasses. I think without the cool shoes and glasses, she might have looked 65 or 70, but I think (at first glance, at least) she looked to be late 50s, maybe 60. That is kind of how I dress -- fairly basic clothing but I have a lot of interesting accessories. So I decided that she is me in the future!

I seem to be obsessed with this topic this week.


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Good genes, money and photoshop don't hurt in the attempt to look "good". I must admit that I find it pretty depressing that so many women judge other women by their manicures and dye jobs. How about if we just accept each of us as we are?


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Good hairstyle that's not old lady permed, good skin, minimal makeup, smile and pleasant countenance as previously noted, sense of class and confidence, good shoes, great bag, unique or very good jewelry--and not much of it, and above all, luxurious fabrics.


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My colleague just turned 60, and she looks fabulous.

She has:
a good haircut, shoulder length, slightly layered,but her hair is also somewhat thick
wears appropriate makeup, some but not overdone
rides her bike a lot and has great legs and a good weight
wears flattering clothes
Definitely no plastic surgery


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Rosestink, while women can be very judgmental I think if you really read the posts we all seem to agree on one thing and that is if the woman is so confident and vibrant about herself that the dyed or not dyed hair or overweight or whatever is not really what strikes us first. That is how I feel as well but do have a very different take on women who are obsessed about certain appearance things as they age; it just takes a little away.


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My friends and I are in our late 60's-early 70's. We had this discussion the other day.

A good haircut and nice make-up go a long way to making an older woman look good, but an essential part of the package,IMHO,is nice eyebrows to frame the eyes.

Pencil thin eyebrows, filled in with a single harsh line of pencil, seem to add years to a woman's face.


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Stinky - Thanks! I can't complain overall. The nursery still isn't quite finished. We're refinishing the dresser top for the SECOND time. :/ Hopefully I'll be able to type of a tada post in the next two weeks or so.

IMO, someone doesn't have to have great genes or lots of money to have a good personality or a clean, neat appearance. As stated above, those things also make a person look 'good'.

If someone is beautiful and has a sucky personality, that takes away from the whole package.

It's ok that not everyone is into their appearance just like not everyone cares what color paint is on their walls. Different strokes for different folks. It doesn't mean though, that other choices wouldn't make that person or room look better.

I think it's important for a man to take care of themselves too.


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A smile.


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Shee, I'll be looking for the Ta-da pics!

Cooperbailey, so true!

Rosesstink, I don't think we're talking about acceptance vs. rejection of women here. We're pondering what makes us go "wow" in terms of visual appeal.

Certainly, being or not not being kind and gracious and optimistic and positive, DOES transcend the outer appearance. As Shee, said, an unpleasant personality really cancels out the best haircut and manicure, and that's the truth.


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Hang out with people older than you are so that in comparison you look young.

I read this on the Fabulous after 40 blog, quoting a NY Times article:
"Women always try to tame themselves as they get older, but the ones who look best are often a bit wilder. Thinking about age all the time is the biggest prison women can make for themselves" Miuccia Prada, fashion designer

I guess the best advice would be: Live, love, laugh


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My parents IMO look fantastic for their ages. For my mother, the key has been staying out of the sun, eating well and exercise. My father has good genes. He's always been very active. He retired years ago from the federal government, but immediately got another job because he likes to keep busy. Here is a picture of my parents from last year with my youngest daughter after graduating kindergarten. This isn't the best picture of them but my mom hates being photographed so I don't have my photos of her. She has been told many times what beautiful skin she has. Unfortunately, I look nothing like her and inherited my father's olive skin and love of tanning in my younger years so I have no hope of looking as good as her in terms of wrinkles! Any guess how old they are?

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Between 70-75?


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Rosesstink, don't think you're the only one who feels that way. I have similar thoughts every time one of these threads appears.


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a smile--completely agreed : )

I would also say a lively interest in the world and in learning. My current hero(in)es include two students in one of the ESOL classes I teach. They are in their 70s, one Korean and one Bulgarian (they don't know each other outside of class) but they come to Advanced Beginner ESOL and are every bit the adorable grandmothers of the group :). They are SO funny--sometimes reminding me of Betty White--and so kind to everyone, always have treats for the younger women's children, and are actually making enough progress that they really should move on next term. I'll miss them terribly, and every class period I find myself thinking "I want to grow old like them" -- their laughter and engagement keeps them energetic, vibrant, and beautiful.


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I don't have a picture of her on file but I feel my mother has aged really beautifully too; hard to believe she turned 80 this year. She has the most beautiful hair, silver with a soft waive and her midnight blue eyes still sparkle especially when all of us girls are with her having a laugh fest.


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Nanny, you got one - my mom is 71 and my father is 77.


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Natal, to notice, appreciate and take an interest in appearance does not necessarily imply that more substantial traits are regarded as insignificant.

It is also worth note, I think, how many people included the *inner* workings of a person, even though the question asked was about what makes a woman LOOK good. Seems to many of us that perfect features, figures, clothes, and hair are of little consequence if an ugly disposition dwells within.

We can take fashion and beauty all in fun...as another form of expression, or we can become way too serious about it, and that's a pretty miserable way to live, for sure.

Fourkids4us, your family is beautiful! Your parents radiate love and kindness as well as good looks!


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Stinky, you have your opinion, I have mine. I'll give you that some here 'get it' while others never will.


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fourkids what a beautiful family! I would post a picture of my mom but I don't think she would like it if I did. I can't believe how nice her skin is. I guess having oily skin is good because she has very few wrinkles and never had any work done and she smoked up until age 50 or so. I wish I had her hair because its so thick, white hair always looks so nice when its thick. The only thing she has ever spent money on was her teeth...nice and white.


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I skimmed, but everyone seems to have good ideas.

Not overdressing.
Not too thin/overweight.
Good haircut/style.
Don't over do jewelry - day or night.
Same goes for makeup.
Stand up straight. Hold shoulders back.
Teeth whitener is your friend, but don't overdo (bad for gums).
Hopefully never have smoked, played tennis or owned a convertible... didn't worship the sun or grow up at the beach.

My hands look old. Have for years - but still not as bad as a cousin that had "old lady" hands at 14yo. No lotion, potion or cream has improved them. Any ideas?


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Have you tried retin A or vit. c serum on your hands?


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Jterrilynn, my mom wouldn't like it either so I will be deleting it soon! :) I always tell my mom that I inherited all the "bad" genes and none of the good ones, with the exception of my very thick hair! I didn't get my mom's beautiful complexion, her thin thighs and small rear end, but I did inherit her flat chest, and stretched belly after having kids. Then on my dad's side, I inherited the big hips and thighs, the downturned lips when smiling and big teeth/small mouth. Haha, I make myself sound terrible!

If you could see my mom's sister, you wouldn't imagine they came from the same stock. My aunt looks horrible - she has not aged well at all. I attribute it mostly to a very hard adult life (first husband was gay, second husband abusive alcoholic, adopted son is gay/dying of AIDS but treated my aunt like a doormat b/c of his own emotional issues that has caused her entire life nothing but unbearable stress. Funny thing is that she's a very holistic, spiritual person who eats a very natural diet, never smoked or drank, has a wonderful outlook on life, but she looks totally haggard. She looks like a hippie from the 60s (long hair, hippie clothing) who did not age well at all. That said, she is beautiful on the inside and that is what counts!


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My hands look old. Have for years - but still not as bad as a cousin that had "old lady" hands at 14yo. No lotion, potion or cream has improved them. Any ideas?

Me too! And I don't think that any cream or serum will help, because my problem is that my skin is thin skin with making the veins very prominent. I think that the only thing that helps is having a filler injected. Maybe I'll treat myself to that for my 55th birthday. Or I'll just start wearing gloves all the time like Diane Keaton.

Okay, before I hit preview I decided to call a local plastic surgeon. I now have an appt. for a consultation in two weeks to talk about hand fillers!


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I've been thinking about those who comment on their big hips and thighs. I wish I had hips and wish my legs weren't so skinny. I used to have a cute shape but as I have aged my mid to upper body got bigger and my lower body got smaller (think potato with big boobs and tooth picks for arms and legs). I have broad shoulders too. It is a hereditary thing in my family on both sides. However, now that the spine injections seem to be working fabulously I'm hoping to get back a little closer to my old shelf with exercise. Not being able to be active for a while there really did a number on me mentally and physically as I was into physical fitness my whole life. Boy is it hard to get back started though.


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Natal, it's not that we don't "get it" it's that we disagree, and that's ok.


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Fourkids, I was going to say genetics seem to be good in your family, but you just negated that about your aunt.

I do like to joke, although I am somewhat serious, when people ask me about my good skin, I do all the things one is supposed to do, but really, I come from a family that doesn't wrinkle very much, from both my parents' sides. I see the same good skin in my aunts, too.


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"It is also worth note, I think, how many people included the *inner* workings of a person, even though the question asked was about what makes a woman LOOK good. Seems to many of us that perfect features, figures, clothes, and hair are of little consequence if an ugly disposition dwells within."

One of the (I think it's neat) things about getting older is that what is on the inside tends to show through on the outside... Those habitual expressions from our 30's and 40's etch into our 50's and 60's faces and leave their traces behind. That's part of what makes my MIL and her sister both so beautiful -- they both glow with kindness and good humor.


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BB, at least you acknowledge which side you're on.


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Sweeby, that's an interesting and very keen observation. For you to SEE your MIL and sister's radiance also says a lot about YOUR receptivity to others' goodness. Some can't let in the light no matter how brightly it shines around them.


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I have very ugly hands too; wrinkly, veiny, liver spotty, and my fingernails are atrocious and they been that way since my twenties. (Back then I could away with calling them freckly) But my fingers are long and thin, if that counts! I wish I could wear rings well but it would only call attention to a bad feature. I love costume jewelry rings too.

Natal, I'm not really sure what sides there are but I know I enjoy fashion, clothing, hair, etc and always have. It makes me feel better but I also seriously enjoy it too. If I didn't enjoy the process, the colors, choices, etc. so much, I might not keep up.
There are things I do not enjoy at all: washing my car. I don't care enough to wash it even though it's usually dirty.


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BB, I get it. Some of us place different values on things. I won't obsess about aging and how I "should" look to please certain people. When I was younger it was all about being different. At this stage of life it's all about being comfortable in my own skin ... not trying to impress or make a statement. If I'm content that's all that matters. Life can be a bit*h. I have bigger fish to fry.


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Russell Crowe

BB, btw, I'm still curious about that comment you made about Russell Crowe ... He has not improved. What does that mean?


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Natal...you are killing me!


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Have you tried retin A or vit. c serum on your hands?

No, I guess I should.

I was reading online last year and ran across an interesting article (actually it was what a top U.S. plastic surgeon spoke about at a conference) about hand fillers. Hadn't considered it and most likely will not do that, but read the article anyway. It said there were going to be advancements in hand fillers and that it was going to be "the new thing." (past examples: botox, lip fillers, etc) Haven't done those either, and won't. I hate needles and geez, look at the celebrity examples of "things gone bad!"


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I think we're like cheese, we either improve with age or get moldy. He too often is fat and bloated unless he's getting ready for a role. So he goes from hunky, not, hunky, not...
I love him, it's just an observation. If any celebrity is an example of "I could care less what you think of me", he is.
But I wouldn't want him to end up like Marlon Brando, whom he is often compared to.


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I don't have spots on my hands but I do have parchment paper skin and blue veins. I have a scar on one palm from carpal tunnel surgery and now I have something called dupuytrens contracture in the same hand as the scar! Oh well, not much I can do about it and if I had money for plastic surgery I'd have my neck lifted. The heck with my hands.


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It's "I couldn't care less" and that pretty much sums up my opinion too. Hope life never gets in the way of your own desire for perfection. It's so overrated.


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Well, I guess it doesn't as I still post here even though you are baiting me and correcting my spelling. Or is it grammar?


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Baiting???

Here is a link that might be useful: which is correct ... I could care less or I couldn't care less


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Natal! Why the incessant badgering? This started out as a lighthearted, fun thread. It doesn't have to turn sour ... does it?


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WOWZA! That's why we have so many "lurkers" on this
particular forum...just my humble observation.


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As others have said, don't dress too young, but I do think it helps to dress somewhat "hip" - well-fitting jeans, nice shoes, a quality leather jacket, fashionable hair. No one, even men, should wear elastic waistband pants in public!

A happy open attitude will make you shine no matter how you look.

I have a co-worker the same age as me, and I've heard her referred to as "the older woman". Two words: Beach House. My pasty Irish skin has kept me from baking in the sun all my life and that has made a difference in how I look today at 57. I tell my daughter and her friends all the time to wear a hat on the beach and they will be thankful 30 years from now.


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Candice Bergen has definitely had cheek fillers and good for her, I'm all for that.

Let's face it, we are often judged at first glance by how we look, and I think as we get older it takes more effort to look "put together" and it's fun to be creative and allow ourselves to be trendy in a suitable way.

I think that once we get older and have more time , some of us try to look as good as we can, and of course yes the inside is most important , no one can deny that.
I try to avoid looking as if I'm "trying too hard" , some styles are too young looking and even though I can wear some of those, I won't do it .

I did buy some boots recently that were so comfy I could not resist, but they are a little too rocker style for my age. Do I really care, I guess not.

Here is a link that might be useful: women aging with style


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Some people just can't help but to unknowingly scream at the top of their lungs, "I'M SO UNHAPPY BUT I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO KNOW!"


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Unless I've missed something, I don't see where anyone mentioned striving for perfection. There is nothing wrong with trying to look your best. Why shouldn't we age gracefully and look the best we can at any age??? It doesn't have to mean we are any less of a person "on the inside". I try to do the best I possibly can at my job, why wouldn't I do the same for myself?

Kelly - I so agree!!!

tina


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mitchdesj,
Thanks for that link. I loved the shop owner's line about this is who I am today, the heck with how I looked when I was younger. What a healthy & happy outlook on life.


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Mitch, why do you think Candace had cheek fillers? I recently read an article where she said she's had nothing done.

My face is similar to her's. When I was young had great cheekbones like my mom. As I've gotten older my face has filled out. I don't have hardly any wrinkles either which is a "plus" to a fuller face. Even though I wish it didn't get fuller. lol


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When I saw the photo of Candace Bergen I also thought she has had some sort of work done. Her face just looks too young for her age. She looks good though, she didn't go overboard but think of how many years ago Murphy Brown was on -- and she wasn't young even then. Oakley, don't believe it when you read that people have not had work done!


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Candace does not have that gorgeous thick hair, that's a piece put on right after the hairline. I know as I'm a hair salon owner and she came in once. I would say she's had work done but I have no way of knowing. It's just that no one gets to her age without a little change in the jowel area, it could be the photo was airbrushed. I will say she was lovely and sweet and that's all that matters to me.
As for the topic, externally an aging woman looks good if she chooses good colors to compliment her skin and clothing and that she maintains and highlights her attributes and minimizes her flaws.
I'm more attracted to people's energy and zeal for life than their looks, some of my favorite people may not be all THAT in the fashion and maintainence area but their spirits and minds way more than compensate.


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I'm sure she's had Botox, but I don't really consider that doing anything, as far as surgery. Interesting about the hair, Yaya!

I think lifestyle, good genes & money COMBINED is what makes one stand out from another.

Example. I have a dear friend my age. Thank goodness she lives upstate and I don't have to see her often because I'd feel intimidated. She definitely has good genes. I knew her mom well, I know her sister. And now her daughter has those genes.

She also has money. Born into money, married into money. She's very ladylike. I was a tomboy and I figured out why I was a tomboy many years later, which is another topic. We were total opposites personality wise, but we were besties.

She has a housekeeper and gardener. She and her dh go out to dinner at fancy restaurants several times a week.

AND she's naturally thin. She's always put together because she has the TIME to do so. I have yard work, I clean my own home, I'm lucky if I leave the house with mascara and lipstick! Now when I'm going somewhere nice, I am put together, but I wouldn't necessarily call myself, "Ladylike." Because of my lifestyle and how I grew up. And raising all boys sure doesn't help. She raised all girls.

When I used to be a law secretary, then a Banker's secretary, I dressed to the nines. I did the same even going to a little league game, because I was used to it.

Since I became a SAHM with chores, well, that all went by the wayside.

And ya know what? I kind of want it back but it just doesn't fit into my lifestyle. Plus I'd have to go on a diet. lol


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IMO good health and a sense of humor is essential if one is to age gracefully. I'm now officially classified as 'older' since I recently turned 70. I find I've become higher maintenance with age altho still low compared to many. I don't want to have to think about the subject all the time, I just want to live a happy low-stress life which can be a challenge at any age.

Some things I do which IMO help me look younger are: I am very careful with my diet eating a 'clean' diet that is mostly organic and vegetarian. I take appropriate supplements and a few vitamins recommended by my naturopath. I question everything medical doctors tell me and avoid pharmaceuticals as much as possible. At the present time I take no Rx's and my medical Dr. is very happy with the state of my health. I have regular dental care. I use no chemical skin care or make-up as most contain very harmful chemicals. I use various vegetable carrier oils, especially coconut oil, as cleanser and moisturizer and I always include my throat so it's not as saggy as it could be. I wear little make-up, natural mineral blusher and lipstick mainly, and everyone tells me how good I look while I'm laughing inside as so many women think full make-up is essential to looking good. I stretch and walk for exercise and don't overdo it as I've learned what my body will comfortably allow. No one looks good if they are not healthy so I am fastidious about doing what that requires and of course that includes not smoking (quit over 30 years ago) and limiting alcohol. When I was in my early 60's I looked 20 years younger (not my assessment but other people's). I likely still don't look as old as most 70 year olds but it's difficult for me to assess and do feel that the stresses of my life recently have not helped.

As for fashion, I wear whatever I like but there are certain body parts that should not be flaunted after a certain age. I refuse to dress old so must try on many items to find what works for me in the younger styles. I love interesting accessories, eyeglasses, and shoes. I've lost quite a lot of weight over the last few years going down 4 sizes and it's a mixed blessing. I haven't deliberately lost weight but eating a healthy, mostly vegetarian diet, is also a great weight loss diet. I do eat out in restaurants periodically with friends and eat whatever I want so it's not socially limiting. While I like being thin the wrinkles show more. Fat plumps up wrinkles and hides them but I believe thinner is a healthier state. Laugh lines are preferable to frown lines and eating good fats helps with healthy skin. I've also quit coloring my hair so have mixed grey which all my friends say they like altho I'm not certain and periodically think about going blonde again but probably won't.

I actually like to hang out with younger people as I've already lost many of my contemporaries.

So the short answer to "What makes women look 'good' when they're 'older'" is the same as what makes anyone look good at any age and that is a positive attitude (meditation can help), good grooming, attention to one's clothing, interest in life and people, and very importantly good health practices. Oh, and I believe that learning new things is very important to keeping mentally young so I am all over the internet learning new things every day. I also read voraciously and volunteer for personal satisfaction, to meet new people, and to learn new things. I also try to avoid negative people as much as possible.

Sorry this has been so long but it's a question that requires a many-facetted answer IMO.


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I think that some never cared all that much about "looking good". I do not find the female form in its natural no makeup, no tweezing, no dyes state to be offensive or even unappealing. Some people apparently do. I don't like women judging each other based on their appearance and that has been the sub-text of this thread. If you don't do X,Y,Z you are not trying and are not looking "good".


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sweeby, along the lines of what you said, when I was in high school I heard "Your eyes are who you are, your mouth is who you become." I like that.


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Let me just say that a little make-up goes a long way to changing one's appearance.

True story:
I answered the door one day to a service person and my hair wasn't done, I had no make-up on and I was wearing a robe/housecoat. We spoke for about 10 minutes-face to face.

I went inside and put some make-up on, teased and combed my hair and changed into some slacks and a decent blouse and added some large hoop earrings.

30 minutes later I went to the door again to speak with this same person and he looked right at me and asked to speak with the older woman he had intitally spoken with. He didn't even realize I was one and the same.

I'm 69 1/2 years old, could lose 20 (okay,30) pounds and I'm short, but I think I'm holding my own these days. I don't do anything to impress others. It just makes me feel good when I look in the mirror and find I haven't disappeared.

Should I be considered vain and shallow because I do this? I don't think so.


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I just returned from a visit home for a funeral, which was, despite the sad circumstances, a nice opportunity to reconnect with extended family. One woman there, my aunt's aunt, was 87 years old, and looked about 68. She still lives in her own home, drives everywhere, etc. She had beautiful posture, was about a size 6, and was beautifully dressed both times I saw her, in classic, well-fitting clothes -kind of Jones of NY looking. Then I met her daughter, who I assumed was about 10-15 years younger than me, which would have put her about 40-43 -turns out she is 68!!!! But here's the thing: as amazing as these women were, the real surprise was in talking to them. Both were so vivacious and full of life, positive, fun people. Truly an inspiration.


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Mona, I agree about makeup. As we age our lips lose color, eyelashes thin and point straight out, and we do acquire uneven skin tones.

Of all the older women I've seen IRL who I find striking, they all have makeup on.

I won't leave the house without pressed powder! lol


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I guess I'm missing how it's okay to spend time, energy and money decorating our homes, but we shouldn't care about how we present ourselves to the world???


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Terriks, it's the unfair judging of others that some of us find superficial. Do men do that to each other or is it exclusively a female thing? I've never understood it.


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I have to disagree about how much time it takes to look well groomed. See my response on the exercise thread about how my time is spent. But on days I'm working or even days I'm home (but not doing yard work), I do my hair, make-up and dress. It's part of a daily routine, I don't do a ton of make-up and don't have to spend alot of time on my hair, so I have it all down pat and it only takes a bit of time. However, even on days I work, I don't "dress to the nines", thankfully a college campus is fairly relaxed. I also like to make the effort for my husband.

Natal, I get what you are saying, but don't you think you are judging here also? You've decided what you think about some because you think they are superficial. On the tread where we posted our pix - it was about Hillary Clinton. You made a comment about how she was so much more than we could hope to be - wasn't that judging? You only know about us what is presented here. You said most were not brave enough to post our picture - but many did. Why even take part in this thread? I don't want an argument, but I really don't get it.

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For younger looking hands use a paraffin wax bath every night. About 5 minutes for each hand.

I don't think it will get rid of dark spots but your skin will be soft and smooth like you were still in your 20's. My daughter noticed that when I was doing that my hands looked younger than hers.


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When I get my teeth cleaned at the dentist's they do a paraffin wax treatment. It does feel really good.


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Natal, I'm going to chose to think of you as the misunderstood cranky person who does not have a handle on expressing their inner light. You are probably "the rock" sort in emergency situations and keep everything together. And, there is no doubt you are highly intelligent.
I'm going to think of you in this way to get past your slight bullying. Anyone who showers and brushes their hair cares at least a little about their appearance. If I didn't wash, wear deodorant or brush my teeth and greeted you with dragon breath and strong BO would you still love me for my inner beauty and give me a great big hug? Let's assume you know I have running water and a place to live. Don't you think you might judge me a tiny bit? I think a lot of us on these discussions are around about the same age give or take 5 or ten years but some more or less, we are all maybe adjusting to changing body shapes or needing to change a style or are interested in others beauty secrets, sometimes due to our age or having children or we just want to share.

If you really did not care you would not keep coming to the party. So, I think you should just fess up.


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Jterrilynn, obviously I hit a nerve. I tend to look at people with a different eye. Maybe it's because I've seen people struggle with various disorders that aren't easily hidden. It makes me sick that some people judge them unfairly. That's what comes to mind when threads like this turn from their original intent.

And Tina, no, the comment about Hillary was fact. She IS so much more than most of us could ever hope to be. To judge her by her hairstyle or the clothes she wears is belittling, not to mention extremely catty.

Men don't do it ... why do women?


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I worked on a college campus for five years, and yes, it's much more laid back.

But I'm not talking about how long it takes to get ready to go somewhere.


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No Natal you didn't touch a nerve with me at all. I just feel bad for you that you are mixing up what you think is the title of this post. The title is not "Let's judge people with physical deformities" its "What makes women look good when they are older." And by the way, men do judge appearances and they gossip. I bet there are few women here that haven't caught their husband eves drooping on a gossip phone call (but that is another topic). I don't agree that we should all become so politically correct that it causes non-physically deformed persons to be discriminated against if they want to share what they think will help us look our best.


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I saw another well put together older woman yesterday and considered what she had in common with the other one I saw at the airport. She was also thin, maybe a little makeup but it was mInimal. She had on a western style straw hat so couldn't tell much about her hair. She was wearing skinny capris and a tailored bright green shirt. She had a couple pieces of interesting tasteful jewelry. I was at an event where there was a lot of people watching. I do think good posture and a figure that is well proportioned - by that I mean shoulders and upper body are not dwarfed by the mid section. Posture can also impact that.

I really try not to pass judgment on people. Everyone makes their own choices in life. I do like to take care of myself and as I've gotten into my 50's I've become more conscious of how people age. I'd like to be physically active as long as I can and at least right now I also expect not to just "let myself go" appearance wise. If there are things I can do that will help improve my quality of life as I get older I might want to try do do them.


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I love these threads about looking good! Of course, I see people around who over-due it, but I fall into the catagory of not. Even though, I have had my lips "done" (very litte) I have not had anything else. I haven't had breast augmentation, like most of my friends have, but honestly, there is only one of my friends that you could even tell she did.


I have to be honest and say, that I love dressing up, and dress up more for myself and for my girlfriends. My husband doesn't care that much. It is fun, and something we all enjoy. I have one friend who is a big lobbyist in OKC, so you can have political interest and still care about how you look. Doesn't mean she is less of a "woman" because she looks good and cares. Of course, she dresses appropriately for that venue.

I do think first impressions are important, and one I instill in my son, also. He ALWAYS goes to school with his hair done (he is use to it, been spraying his hair down with water in the morning and then gel since he was two) and good clothes. I think he is perceived by his peers and teachers of a kid that has it together, and they expect more from him, for it. Anyway, that is my perception, and it has worked so far. I know plenty will disagree with that.


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Oakley you commented your friend "has the time", that's why I commented on how long it takes. So, not sure what you meant.

Natal, thanks for clarifying. Yes, women can be quite vicious towards each other. I don't get that from either of these threads. I don't remember what I said on the Hilary thread, but I do not care for her hair. It's not flattering at all and she's had some great styles before. That said, I'm able to differentiate between her hairstyle and her as a person. Her hairstyle (or our comments on said hairstyle) are not a reflection on Hilary as a person! She has done much good, but I'm afraid I don't share your opinion re her and others. But, that's another thread for another day.

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A good hair style (colored or not), being thin and fit, dressing nicely and having colorful accessories are what I notice on most women my age (58) who I think "look good".

Genes play a role for sure, but never underestimate the importance of lifestyle and the choices we make. Sun=bad for skin. Sex=good for skin and for mood! Food choices can make a tremendous difference in staying lean as we age. Exercise (for me) is a critical component of staying flexible and being able to lead an acive lifestyle.

We just got back from a week in California. Oh, what a wonderful place to be a people watcher! I saw some women on Rodeo Drive who didn't look like that had any of their original parts! Some could barely walk in their skinny high heels, and to me, they looked ridiculous for even trying!

At a tasting room at a vineyard in Napa I struck up a conversation with a terrific looking older woman. She had braces on her teeth (I'm in the dental field) so that was my opening line. In the course of conversation she told me she's 65. She looked amazing and was so fun and energetic.
Confidence is a big part of what allows women to grow old gracefully.


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I suppose it also has a lot to do with what you consider looking 'good'.

My good friend and coworker is a laid back, Northern California Coastal self-described 'hippy chick'. She's not a great beauty, but she oozes that self-confidence that makes her look great. She dresses casually, does nothing special with her hair or makeup, but does keep it neat. Now, we have another gal who works at our Department in another division, hers is strictly administrative, and she goes the whole nine-yards...well coiffed, trendy hair; impeccable make up, nails and clothes out of a catalogue. She is the same age as the two of us but looks so much older! I think it's because she just looks so uptight and worried about getting a speck of lint on her.

My friends and I are very laid back (plus we work in jobs where dirt is practically mandatory!) but I think my pals look good for our age.


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As far as not judging others, like Tina said, I too can differentiate between a woman's brains and her hairstyle.
However, I am also very much aware that I am judged by how I look- like it or not- so I play the game. I prefer the corresponding treatment I receive rather than being ignored.
I also like having men (my dh in particular) notice me, and if I did nothing, nothing is what I would get in return.

To me, smart women use All their tools, not just a few- with good conscience, of course!


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Beautiful inside and out......

Here is a link that might be useful: So beautiful


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I love Jane Goodall! She is my hair model for older years.


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That pic of Jane is breathtaking! Thanks, Bestyears. Reminds me of those wonderful Dorothea Lange photographs.

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg is my "Senior" beauty icon! I just think she's marvelous; smart as a whip, feisty, and so chic!

She's more proof positive that we can look great and be sharp as a tack simultaneously...at any age!

Here is a link that might be useful: Ruthie


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I just love Jane Goodall, what a life well-lived... I've read everything she's written, and most of what has been written about her. It is on my bucket list to see her in person one day.


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I think women who age and keep their white hair are fascinating. Of course it helps if your hair is think and white. Still, I'm in awe of women that can pull it off in a stylish manner. I guess it appeals to me because in this day an age I think it shows a bit of inner rebel to buck the system and it just oozes with self confidence.







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Opps not think and white... THICK and white!


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"A woman can never be too thin or too rich." And that's the truth, ain't it?

Mainly, it seems perspective plays a large role. We tend to retain our personal sense of style and comfort zone from our teens through the rest of our lives. As we age, we refine our taste and style to the current trend and fashion. If we don't, we look out-of-style and frumpy, or like we are trying to look young, even if it was perfect for us when we really were younger.

And most young professional (or otherwise) women would automatically look older and perhaps stuffy if they wore the type and style of clothing,
Makeup, hair, accessories that look good on older women.


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i think contentedness with one's life shines through on an older person's face... and all the makeup in the world won't make an unhappy person look good!
that said, i can't yet imagine the day when i stop dyeing my hair and wearing some daily makeup!!! i hope to stay fit for a long time to come too because being unfit is tremendously aging!

allison--i don't know if there's really anything to do for hands-- pretty much all genes there i think! but, are gloves 'sortof' coming back in fashion??? if not, then you could always make them your 'signature'!


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I think that my grandmother was always beautiful. Here is a picture of her before she passed away at age 95 (I deleted my darling neice out of the picture)

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Luckily I took after her in the hair department - she had a beautiful head of thick silvery gray hair.


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Two more older women who look great, I think, are Barbra Streisand and Leslie Stahl.

I also think Jane Goodall looks and is wonderful!

and I love the pic of your grandma, terriks.


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Terri - that is such a sweet picture. We just celebrated my grandmother's 95th on 4/15. She is beautiful to me and has been such an influence, all of my life.

Thin and rich? I'll agree with busybee and take fit/healthy and happy. . .


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Of course, tinam, but not one of the posted pics or women named in this thread, including terriks lovely grandmother, is anything but thin and fit, and most appear to have plenty of money. Heavy, poorer women can certainly look good and be happy.

I should have attributed the quote to the thin, rich Wallis Simpson. Sorry about that.


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This thread had absolutely nothing to do with judging others, until those who chose to view our words in the most negative light possible attempted to turn it around that way. I see this discussion as nothing more than a lighthearted flip through a fashion magazine. A sharing of beauty tips. An appreciation of certain ideals that appeal visually to most. Good grief, if we have to feel bad about that kind of discussion, I don't know what this place has become. I for one refuse to be bullied into believing that this thread is anything other than good-natured and innocent.

Terriks, your grandmother was a beauty! And jterrilyn, those photos you posted are fabulous. My mother resembles Judi Dench, so I have a special fondness for that silver fox. :-)


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Oprah, Carrie Fisher, Adele, and Barbra Streisand are beautiful but not thin. (granted, they're all rich!)

btw, I hated what they did to Adele on that Vogue cover- left her large chest but airbrushed her waist away to nothing.

Also, I think that if a woman is thin to the point of anorexia that it's not beautiful- it's an illness and starvation is definitely not beautiful.


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My grandma was quite a beauty (inside and out). I have this picture of her at about age 20 in my bedroom:

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No problem Sherrmann. My grandmother is not thin, in fact, she's a tad bit plumpish, but not really heavy. She's still beautiful to me. She also has that snow white hair.

I love Emmy Lou's silver hair!

Nancybee - I love Adele and think she is gorgeous!!! I could listen to her all day.


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I do have to admit the women whom I do a doubletake with are thin, but not too skinny, and I'm assuming many had botox done, but like I said, that's fine by me.

Their clothes are on the expensive side & well tailored.

I do think it's the way we were raised. But that's from a personal observation from people I actually know.

While all the women above are nice looking, they're doing a photo shoot, so of course they look great.

Every now and then I come across pictures of actresses without their makeup on, and boy do they look scary! It IS amazing what good makeup can do for you.


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Terriks, your grandma is a beauty! I guess it runs in your family:)

Nancybee, I so agree with the too thin and mentioned it above. I'm worried about my friend who is too thin and am sure she has some sort of eating disorder. A few of us got together for her birthday and she made a big show of eating a large order of French fries. I think she is doing all sorts of things to prove that she doesn't have an eating disorder. A few more things I noticed is that she is telling people her weight when they don't ask and is adding at least ten or fifteen pounds. She also has a rehearsed speech if anyone mentions that she maybe getting to thin, her speech is all about sugar diabetes when you age. More telling is her teeth, in the short time she has been starving herself her teeth have gotten very scary looking. If she gets any thinner I'm going to talk to her daughter as my friend will not listen to friends.


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Terri - another beautiful picture of your grandmother!!

Jterrilynn - I agree, sometimes too thin makes you wonder if someone is ill.

I agree the celebs above are all attractive, but love the pics of our own "real-life" beauties.


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I was in a store the other day and noticed a middle aged woman across the store and did a double take when I realized I was looking in a mirror and it was ME! It was one of those days when I hadn't really paid too much attention to how I looked before I ran out the door. Good Lord, it was scary. I'm finally coming to the conclusion that if I don't want to have that drab, washed-out look (which is my default look, apparently), I need an extra few minutes in the morning with a little eye makeup and just a dab of lipstick. I really hate wearing lipstick, but I know it makes a huge difference in my appearance. My lips have almost no color -- apparently that happens when you get old!


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Sue, I like this NYC lipstain in Neverending Nude. It gives my lips a natural look and you don't feel it at all.


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I feel your pain Sue (I'm loving this thread more and more LOL). I am fair with dark hair and dark eyes. My lips have always been pale. I can still hear my mother telling me to "put some lipstick on"!!! It finally sunk in. I love lip glosses. Terriks - I'm going to have to try one of those lipstains!

tina


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jterri, I think it's a good idea to talk to her daughter. I had this and the thing that finally made me get treatment was that I couldn't stand the thought that I was scaring my family.

I have a picture from when I was this way and I looked terrible and much older than I do now. But I thought I looked good! But far worse than that is that it's so unhealthy and it can kill you.


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jt...that is a worrisome description you give of your friend. The combination of eating the french fries and then describing how thin she is and the condition of her teeth leads me to think that she is purging by vomiting, known as bulimia.The stomach acids eat away the enamel on the teeth. It is very very common.

I ran with a friend that did it. I finally confronted him after hearing him in the bathroom. We would eat lunch and he would have all of this stuff that one wouldn't think a runner would eat. Then he would always have a reason for going to the bathroom. i followed him and listened. So sad. He also would stop by the trail to supposedly urinate but he was actually vomiting the snacks/lunch we had eaten. He was able to finally get it under control. As an aside he is a clinical psychologist Phd.

My DD had a friend in high school who also purged. Her Mom found glass jars of vomit in the girl's closet. Really really sad. The Mom is an MD and did seek help but it was very hard for this gal to accept help. She had to go away to a facility in order to get well.

The disorder is extremely addicting and consequently very hard to get over. Here is a link. c

Here is a link that might be useful: bulimia and famous people


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I didn't make myself throw up but I agree with trail that the condition of her teeth might mean she is- it can be very dangerous, even one episode can dangerously unbalance your electrolytes.


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Trail, I thought of you when I posted the pictures of women with pretty white hair.

Ugg, I started gagging at the thought of jars of vomit... ewww, I think my yogurt is going to come up:(
I'm pretty sure my friend's extreme skinny is due to her recent divorce and before that the pending divorce. She is also a very smart lady who is a retired professional with a masters degree. She has talked of what a failure with men she feels she is, and this was her fourth divorce. I know she has been looking for a therapist to deal with that. Her daughter is on my facebook friends list so I think I'll keep an eye out for when she's on next and message her.

Nancy, thank you so much for sharing! I'm so glad you are doing well now.


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jt..it keeps getting whiter :) Thank you for the lovely compliment. I hope that I can look as wonderful as my Mom did when she was 88. She was beautiful when she was young and aged wonderfully. So many of the examples given here are to be admired.

Your friend sounds as if she needs some serious help to gain control of her life. A friend like you is something to be cherished. In reading about eating disorders a common thread is seeking control when it is missing in the rest of a person's life. Your friends' perceived failure at marriage has perhaps led her to see herself in a way that is so distorted and will probably require a fair amount of therapy. I hope she is able to get what she needs.

Nancy I am glad that you are doing well. I didn't see your previous comments about an eating disorder. You are correct in saying that the imbalance in electrolytes is extremely dangerous. c


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Trailrunner, I also thought of you when I looked at the
beauties with the silver gray/white hair. I would love
it if my hair could be like that along with the texture
it seems you have. My second choice would to have hair
like "TheFoxesPad" aka ttodd...love curly hair which is
why I used to get perms back in the day!


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irish...thank you ! That is very sweet of you. My hair is VERY thick and coarse. I have to have it cut every 3 weeks and thinned. It is a bucket of hair ! I LOVE Foxes hair . She has it so nicely done. c


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To find out what makes an older woman (or man) look good, google on "Maia Helles"!


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