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All-Clad Exterior Types... differences??

wazatron
19 years ago

I'm looking to get some nice all-clad pieces, but can't find any good information on the different lines.

I understand the physicall and cosmetic differences, but are there any real functional differences? Condution, durability, etc?

I'd be very interested in some hands-on knowledge about LDT vs MC2 vs the regular SS.

Thanks

Comments (14)

  • wazatron
    Original Author
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Follow-up: Ive just returned from Williams Sonoma and the LTD line looked pretty beat up, with a few significant scratches on some of the pieces. They didnÂt have the MC2 line, but the regular SS looked significantly better.

    On the LTD, IÂve read that they are made in China whereas they used to be made in the US and as a result they are not the cookware they used to be  any truth to that?

    However, another store told me that the LTD is a heavier gauge than both the SS and the MC2, making it the "best" of the bunch.

    Outside of that, I mostly hear itÂs all cosmetic. :)

    IÂd appreciate any thoughts and opinions on the matter!

    Thanks all!

  • webwoman
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The All Clad website has a decent explanation of the finishes. I've found the SS to have an important advantage: you can put it in the dishwasher. The LTD will not be harmed, but it will start looking cloudy and mottled. I haven't had trouble with the MC2 in the dishwasher (although they are about 10 years old or so).

  • eandhl
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    When I purchased All Clad I was sold on the SS because it is the only one that goes in the DW. Comes out perfect and I have never been sorry for my decision.

  • mes444
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have had the LTD for about 15 years, got it when it first came out, could be a little longer, but it does hold up very well, I do have some scratches on the bottoms. If you like putting pots into the dishwasher, then it's a disadvantage. But otherwise, they are great and will be passed to future generations, they are that kind of quality (or they used to be).

  • blondelle
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    mes444, do you have problems with the LTD staining? Someone had mentioned that dark greasy stains were almost impossible to get out from the anodized surface once the pan was cooked in again. I know I have had that problem with Calphalon. I thought those silvery scratches were marks from another surface that was softer than the hard anodized. I hadn't realized they didn't come out. I like the looks of the LTD, but I went with the stainless as I thought it would hold up better, and develop a nice patina with use.

  • mes444
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have never had any problem with the outsides of LTD staining. They clean easily with sos soap pads if they have anything stuck to the sides. I also use sos soap pads inside if anything sticks, if not, I just wash with Dawn as I do my Calphalon. As I said above, they do scratch over time so that the stainless shows here and there. Calphalon does stain if things get on the outside, but I love the non stick Calphalon for frying so much, that I consider their stains a patina of happy cooking.

  • rdwright
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am collecting (achingly slowly-$$$) the MC/MC2 line of pots. I really love them. When I first started buying them some years ago, a chef friend of mine pointed me toward the MC line because he said the other finishes would show scratches over time. The MC/MC2 scratch as well, but you don't see the scratches because of the finish. This allows me to slide them around the range without cringing at what kind of damage I might be doing to the finish. I don't put them in the DW, but probably could if I wanted to. I think the All-Clad advises against this, though. My feeling is that there probably isn't much difference in performance between the MC2, the LTD, and the SS lines. I would be curious about the Copper stuff, though. There might definitely be a difference there. Anyway, as time goes on, I will probably have some of each as some pots come only in certain finishes. I would assume they're all terrific! Enjoy!

  • deanb
    19 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The hard anodized surface of the LTD line is a lot harder than surfaces it's likely to come in contact with. What appear to be scratches are almost always small deposits of the metal it came in contact with. To remove them use a green scouring pad and a little BarKeepers Friend. They'll come right off.

    That said, I've had a rather large collection of MC for nearly 25 years and it still looks very good. I also have some of the SS and love it too. It's hard to go very wrong with All-Clad.

    Stainless steel is a much poorer heat conductor than aluminum so you could argue that the SS line would not perform as well as the other two lines because it has two layers of SS instead of one (the cooking surface) as is the case with the MC and LTD. If there is a difference it is subtle. All three lines perform very well.

  • identity
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This might be a stupid question, but do the bottom of All Clad pots/pan show burn marks after use? I am considering the SS set because it looks nice, but I don't want the bottom to be a brownish color after a few uses as a result of the electric stoves.

  • eandhl
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I used my AC SS for about 5 yrs on my electric and now about a year on my gas range. Occasionally I get a brown on the outside of the bottom on the gas range but barkeepers friend takes it right off.

  • rhome410
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I am looking into tri-ply cookware, including All-Clad and found this discussion in a search, so I hope you don't mind if I jump in with a couple of questions regarding the cooking difference in Stainless and MC2 collections.

    If the graphics on the All-Clad site are at all accurate, it appears that the stainless on the inside of the MC2 collection is thicker than the interior stainless layer on the Stainless line, but then, of course, has none on the outside. I think it appears that both have similar thicknesses of aluminum and stainless, just distributed differently. The Stainless line has a thicker inner core of aluminum, and the MC2 has aluminum alloy on the outside...Are these differences significant? And by that I mean to the cooking performance, not the look. I cook on a Wolf gas rangetop and want to make sure of even heating, no scorching on the sides, etc.

    Thank you.

  • dbyw
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I know one of the factory sales reps for All-Clad and have spoken to him a number of times regarding the differences. They have done internal testing numerous times, and while the stainless collection is far and away their best-selling line, MC2 and LTD are the benchmark in performance in the All-Clad collection. They cannot be beat. I think the cutaways are a little bit deceiving in that they don't show the overall measurement (thickness of the pan). So while they look proportionately the same, if you hold a SS piece next to an MC2 piece, you will clearly see that the MC2 is hands down thicker. This added mass will eliminate hot-spots and scorching. Also, he said that the only reason the SS line is thinner is because the out-layer of SS will start to warp, crack and not bond correctly if the inner core is too thick. So to answer your questions, if you want the best "performing" All-Clad line, its the MC2 or LTD. If you want shiny cookware, go for the SS. Note - look around for reviews on the SS line and you'll see that people have had issues with it warping. Though this is covered under warranty, it just shows that you might encounter scorching, hot spots. Side note I really haven't seen (or experienced) any bad reviews of MC2. I've had it for 12 years by the way. Happy shopping!

  • rhome410
    14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks so much, dbyw!! Very helpful info. I had been looking for tri-ply pots, thinking they would all do the same for me, and finally realized they might not all be created equal... But probably better than the stainless pots I have with the thick disk on the bottom and thinner sides.

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