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Suggestions for a half-vegetarian family

ssdarb
10 years ago

Hello, we are a family of 2 parents and 4 kids (ages 9 to 17). 2 of the kids have decided they want to be vegetarians (not vegan). So we talked it over and decided to phase it in over the next few weeks, starting off with eliminated red meat, then chicken and then seeing if they want to eliminate seafood next. I am going to do it with them, so that's half the family.

As far as breakfast and lunch go, the whole family is eating a vegetarian diet already because breakfast is usually oatmeal, cereal, toast, or boiled eggs, and lunch is usually a packed PBJ sandwich. So I just have to make some adjustments to dinner.

The way I cook now is really old fashioned, French, Italian, Spanish, and all from scratch. I love to cook and I am very good family cook. But usually I use meat or chicken. I make a great Coq Au Vin.

My veggie kids don't want meat substitute types of dishes; they just want to go veggie, so I don't have to get into meat substitute type of stuff.

All my kids already love fresh steamed or raw veggies and fruits. I have looked at some cookbooks, but the recipes look like dishes that I would like but my kids would not. They don't like soup, stew, or chili, or anything mushed together like a casserole.

The only thing I have thought of so far is a little side serving of pasta and a bunch of steamed veggies and some fruit or salad.

I can't serve that every night, so I need some suggestions.

Thanks!

Comments (18)

  • annie1992
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh, where to start. (grin)

    Beans are a good protein source, so bean burritos are good, as are roasted vegetable quesadillas with some cheese for the protein. On the days that you have oatmeal or something other than eggs, a frittata is a good choice, or a quiche. You can add potatoes or whatever vegetables you want to make it a good filling meal with some green salad and/or bread.

    My kids like tomato soup with grilled cheese sandwiches, but you don't have to have the soup to make the sandwiches. Spinach and cheese cannelloni are a good main dish, as is Ann T's Stacked Enchiladas, I love the enchiladas and I'll post the recipe at the end.

    My oldest daughter was a vegetarian for several years and she liked the peanut butter/sesame noodles that are available in Oriental restaurants. She also likes tofu, and I don't mind tofu, it takes on the flavor of whatever you cook it with.

    Hummus is a good dip with vegetables or crackers and is a good bean option if your kids won't eat bean soup. Personally I love a big pot of beans and some cornbread, but that's me. I especially like the baked beans that I make with the leftovers.

    Four cheese lasagna, grits or polenta with cheese, macaroni and cheese. Have I mentioned cheese? (grin)

    Both Eating Well and Cooking Light have good websites with recipes, as does Vegetarian Times, so you might find some good ideas there too, enough to get you started on some unique and creative recipes.

    Anyway, the Stacked Enchiladas. I just made a double batch of the sauce with the last of my garden tomatillos, and froze it. It freezes well and I keep it on hand for when I have a craving. I will admit that I don't fry the tortillas, I just dunk them into the hot sauce and start layering, saving both a step and some calories.

    Stacked Enchiladas -Ann T
    ==================
    Source: Southwest Cookbook

    Here is the recipe Helene for the Stacked Enchiladas. I see no reason why you couldn't layer these over lapping in a lasagna pan and then slice to serve. You will have to double the ingredients for the sauce as well as the fillings.

    Vegetable oil for frying
    12 corn tortillas (6 inches)
    1 1/2 cups (12 fl ounces) green Chili Sauce (recipe on page 195)
    2 cups (8 ounces) grated Monterey Jack or Cheddar Cheese
    3/4 cups finely chopped onion

    Preheat oven to 350F. Pour vegetable oil into a medium , heavy skilled to depth of 1/2 inch. Heat the oil over medium high heat to 375F, or until a strip of tortilla browns in 60 seconds. Soften the tortillas, one at a time, for about 5 seconds per side in the hot oil and drain on paper towels.

    Heat the green chili sauce in a shallow pan and dip each softened tortilla into the sauce. Place 1 coated tortilla on an oven proof plate and top with 1 tablespoons green chili sauce, 2 tablespoons grated cheese and 1 tablespoon chopped onion; repeat twice so that 1 serving contains 3 layered tortillas. Repeat with the remaining ingredients to make 4 tortilla stacks. Bake the stacks for 3 to 5 minutes, or until the cheese melts.

    NOTE: Add cooked chicken and or pinto or black beans between layers.

    Green Chili Sauce
    1 Jalapeno chili seeded and diced
    1 garlic clove crushed
    1/4 cup chopped green onions
    4 tomatillos, husked and diced (or use canned)
    1 1/2 cups chicken stock
    2 new Mexico green or Anaheim chilies, roasted, peeled, cored, seeded and diced.
    1/4 cup chopped fresh cilantro
    1 tablespoon fresh lime juice
    1 tablespoon heavy cream
    salt and freshly ground pepper to taste

    In a medium saucepan, place the jalapeno , garlic, green onions, tomatillos and chicken stock. Bring to a boil over medium-high heat' reduce heat and simmer until the liquid is reduced to about 1 cup about 15 to 20 minutes.
    Pour the chicken stock mixture into a blender or food processor.
    Add the Anaheim chilies, cilantro and lime juice; puree until smooth. Add salt and pepper. Add the cream and mix again. Serve warm. Keep 1 to 2 days refrigerated.

    Oh, and have you tried quinoa yet? It's fast, easy to cook and very versatile.

    Good luck!

    Annie

  • Islay_Corbel
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Have a look at the book in the link. I've had this book for years as daughter is a veggie and we also like to avoid meat for a few meals in the week. She really writes brilliant recipes and you don't miss the meat at all. It's not all sloppy stuff!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Martha Rose Shulman

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    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • grainlady_ks
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • ssdarb
    Original Author
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    WOW!! I was away from my computer for a bit and I am just checking back. These suggestions are great. I appreciate the sentiments of those of you who criticize the notion of being vegetarian while not being healthy - i.e. eating junk food. There is a "pasta-tarian" in my extended family -- a vegetarian who hates vegetables. I have taught all my kids how to grow food, shop and cook. They all eat pretty healthy (one has a bit of a sweet tooth, but to get sweets she has to bake them herself from scratch, so that is working out ok). They have never gone to McD's except once another parent took my son and he got sick from the yucky food, poor guy!

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  • sally2_gw
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

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  • Lars
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I think cavemen ate meat - at least when they could get it. I've been reading a lot of anthropology books about ancient humans, and it is worth considering how diet affected humans as we evolved. Cavemen were healthier than the farmers who succeeded them, as the farmer's diet was not natural for humans. I tried being vegetarian, but it did not work for me at all, especially since I have mild allergies to wheat, oats, soy, rice, and corn. I think that too much wheat in anyone's diet is probably not good, and all grains should be eaten in moderation. It is healtier to eat roots, like potatoes, yucca, taro, etc., plus other vegetables and fruits. Milk from cows is also not natural for our diet, and I have problems with a lot (but not all) dairy. I try to eat a fair amount of fish, but it is expensive and I have to be careful to avoid too much fish that may have mercury.

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  • cj47
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I second Lar's suggestion to explore cuisines from countries that are mostly vegetarian, rather than trying to substitute for meat. As they explore and grow, they might also become more accepting of various types of dishes. When I was younger, I was primarily vegetarian and enjoyed all of the Moosewood recipes. Their hummus recipe is an old favorite of ours. Also, explore some of the more unusual grains, like Quinioa. Quinoa is high in protein, we use it instead of rice often.

  • lpinkmountain
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I became a vegetarian at age 17. My folks were OK with it, mom had been raised 7th Day Adventist but wasn't really into the vegetarian part much. But she was very familiar with the idea that being vegetarian could be a healthy choice, as her healthy, long lived friends can attest. But I did not expect my mom to cook me special foods. If I wanted something special vegetarian I made it myself. But I was already helping my mom make a significant part of the dinner meals so this was not an issue for me either. Plus mom and I had always been the vegetable enthusiasts in the family, as opposed to my "plain foods" brother and my dad whose four main food groups are carbs, fat, meat and sugar.

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  • lpinkmountain
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I just re-read your post and if your kids don't like anything "mushed together" or fake meats, you have quite the challenge in front of you. IMHO, if your kids have strict dietary ideas, then they should pick out the recipes and help you make them, not leave it up to you!! I had a friend once remark that he tried to be a vegetarian but he just couldn't do it because vegetarian food was "just too mushy" lol! If I had to eschew soups, stews and casseroles then I would subsist on mushy veggie patties or loaves. I have a recipe for "Wheatloaf" that I like but it takes a lot of time to make it so I don't do it that often. Same with bean burgers, etc. How about salads? Anyway, if your kids don't want to eat meat they need to educate themselves about good vegetarian nutrition options and start suggesting what kinds of healthy foods they are going to eat. My mom expected me and my brother to help with food prep because she worked full time so I got things started and helped finish when she got home. I think I was about 12 when I started helping.

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  • Cloud Swift
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My husband and I aren't vegetarians, but we usually only have red meat or chicken one or two nights a week so most of our meals are vegetarian.

    Our son and his family are vegetarian. The hardest part is finding festive enough vegetarian dishes for holiday meals.

    For regular warm weather dinners, it is pretty easy. There are a lot of salad possibilities such as adding nuts, beans or a sprinkle of cheese to the salad for some protein.

    For winter, I'd find it hard without doing meals that use soups or chili. When our son originally became a vegetarian, he was a pretty picky eater (almost a "vegetarian who doesn't like vegetables") but he did learn to broaden his palate. He still doesn't like totally pureed or cream soups, but he can enjoy a soup where the components are identifiable like a minestrone with vegetables and beans in a broth or even a partly pureed soup like a pea soup.

    Tonight I'm making falafel since our son's family will be with us for Shabbat dinner. They are so much better made from soaked chick peas run through a food processor than falafel made from a mix.

    Sometimes we cook Indian dishes such as Chana Masala (chick peas with curry spices and some tomato).

    Olive Trees and Honey is a good vegetarian cookbook. The subtitle is A Treasury of Vegetarian Recipes from Jewish Communities Around the World so it has recipes from some of the ethnic cuisines that others have suggested. There is a Kindle edition to help save your burdened cookbook shelf.

    I've served the vegetable biryani from it a number of times. That's kind of a casserole with a layer of vegetables between layers of rice and with nuts and fruit mixed in with the top layer of rice, but things aren't mushed together in it so perhaps your family would find it acceptable.

  • Annie Deighnaugh
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You've gotten some great advice already.

    Vegetarian diet does need to be sure to include adequate protein and it must have some animal product or B vitamin supplementation to be a healthy diet.

    A couple of things to note:

    o quinoa is a complete protein and an excellent thing to use with a vegetarian diet.

    o there is some controversy about whether unfermented soy is harmful or not and some recommend fermented soy products such as tempeh as being the soy to eat.

  • lpinkmountain
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Incidentally I just saw this article on YAHOO today, "10 Great Protein Sources for Vegetarians."

    Number one was chickpea flour. Apparently that's a product that is getting a lot of buzz with the gluten free crowd. So I guess you could add that to your baked goods for extra protein if you're worried about soy flour. I have not tried it for that. I did add it to some too runny hummus I made and it didn't seem to have much taste. I bought some and plan to experiment with it when I get a chance. I have recipes for some fritters that use it and also now chickpea fries!

    Here is a link that might be useful: Ten Great Protein Sources for Vegetarians

  • gwlolo
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I just read this thread. We eat vegetarian food at home which includes some eggs and dairy mostly in the form of milk and homemade plain yogurt. I agree with your kids that vegetarian food should not try to replicate the flavors and textures of meat. A veggie burger that pretends to be meat will always not be as good as the one made with ground beef. I agree with Lars's suggestion above to try cooking food from cultures which eat a lot of vegetarian food. My family is from India and vegetarian food is a way of life. Grains like Quinoa are great source of protein. Lentil offer a very big variety and can be cooked in many many ways. Some cheeses like the indian paneer are firm when cooked similar to firm tofu and work well as ingredients in wraps, curries etc. It can be a pain to cook separate dishes for every meal. I would suggest considering the whole family eat vegetarian a couple of times a week and freezing portions for your vegetarian kids for some of the meals where they eat separate.

    Here are my go to choices for veg meals with sufficient protein:

    Veg chowmein with tofu
    Thai curry (Green or red with tofu & veggies)
    Indian dal and rice
    Indian channa (garbanzo beans) or rajma (red kidney beans) served with rice, or quinoa or some kind of flat bread like lavash, chapathis or tortillas
    Plain yogurt with rice served with a side of spicy curry or kimchee.
    Greek yogurt with spicy salsa dip with veg crudites
    falafel with pita
    rice & lentil or quinoa & lentil risotto (search for kichdi recipes).

    Here are couple of video blogs for indian food that breaks it down nicely.

    Manjula's kitchen
    Showme the curry

  • grainlady_ks
    10 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    If you are adding bean flour (or substitute it for a portion of the wheat flour - up to 15-20%) in baked goods to increase the protein, use small white (navy) beans milled into flour because they have the least amount of "beany" flavor.

    Better yet, sprout the beans and dehydrate them before milling into flour. Sprouting increases the available nutrition, makes them easier to digest, and lowers the carbs. It's also another way to reduce the beany taste.

    Instead of chickpea flour, I mill chana dal (immature garbanzo beans) because they are very low on the Glycemic Index - in fact, they are one of the lowest foods on the Glycemic Index. They won't raise blood sugar like chickpeas do. I also use them in hummus and many other recipes. Vegetarian diets can be very high in carbohydrates (more than is suggested for your daily allowance in a balanced diet), as well as those that are high-glycemic that increase blood sugar, so that's another nutritional element to consider.

    Other fun recipes include pinto beans (refried beans) or mashed/pureed cooked beans, in cookies, cakes - even FUDGE (see the link below).

    Lentil puree is another good add-in for baked goods. I've used it in recipes for waffles, biscuits, cookies, bars and muffins. I usually sprout my lentils before blending it into a puree. Once again, this increases the nutrition, reduces the carbs, and makes them easier to digest.

    I add adzuki beans to rice to increase the nutritional profile. Adzuki puree is another good add-in, as is adzuki flour. Add sprouted adzuki beans to stir-fry.

    If you make your own tortillas, it's easy to increase the protein by adding bean flour (beans and grains = a complete protein). Another boost of protein is to add some sesame seeds, which also makes really yummy tortillas.

    It's just so easy to add beans to our diets - even for people who think they don't like them ;-). Black Bean Brownies anyone?

    -Grainlady

    Here is a link that might be useful: U.S. Dry Bean Council -