I think it must be from last year. I don't remember it from this spring's stuff, but I could be wrong. Bonus is the hummers are all over it like a ("body-image challenged" kid on a smartie..oops..Canadianism..I mean M&M)! ;0)

Part of the secret might be the technique. In this mass market fast food world, virtually all the fried chicken one encounters is deep fried. Pan fried is crisper, but is less labor-efficient. Calvin Trillin, the food writer for the New Yorker, extols the virtue of pan frying in "The Tummy Trilogy". Great stuff. I had all but forgotten about it until a couple of weeks ago the DW and I stopped to eat in this little hole in the wall cafe in a tiny town in SC. It was a 'meat and three' cafe--you know, choose your meat dish and three sides. Their fried chicken was heavenly. A thin crust, nicely seasoned, as crisp as a cornflake. Wonderful. The link discusses the debate. Here is a link that might be useful: pan fried vs deep fried

What might be the moral to the story? This might be it: wait a little while if you are shocked when you read about a problem that sounds shocking to you. It probably also sounds shocking to everyone, but wait. Don't be trigger happy. Don't indulge yourself by typing out your feelings. Wait. Someone will post some kind of fact-based response within a few hours. Isn't there a Supreme Court Justice who subscribes to this theory of conservation of personal (his) initiative? He doesn't believe in "indulging himself" by vocalizing any thought processes, either. Of course, I don't recall his reserve having garnered him many plaudits for holding his curiousity or opinion in check. My initial position was paraphrased by marcolo several times. Several people have made a big ado about it. Marcolo pointed out why it is good to ask for information first. Wow. What a new idea. Ask around. Get new input. (MARCOLO! Paging Dr. Marcolo! Need Davidro-to-english translation help here, please.) Assuming I understood the point of the post, isn't that what a post on the Kitchen Forum is about? Airing personal experience, making correlations, getting opinions on similarity or dissimilarity of experience? I don't believe that posting is an automatic ticket to litigation-city. That said, while I don't disagree with David that the massive haemorrhaging of personal outrage on the KF can be a trifle wearying, the instances cited here that have apparently motivated this thread are ridiculous. For one thing: "exploding glass doors" vs "exploding glass doors that way". Yes, tempered glass explodes "that way" but to think that anyone should be expected to be blase and off-hand about the fact that their oven door blasted itself open in the course of its "normal operation" (I'll hold my opinion on self-clean in check here) is asking for the moon. It doesn't matter than tempered glass breaks a certain way - it does matter that it spontaneously imploded without a clear and discernible impact to trigger; that makes the data noteworthy and the event really should be publicized. Yes, perhaps the glass was subjected to stresses beyond normal range a while back - or even undetected anomalous events at the time of high drama: bird strike, pellets, surface scratches, edge impact - and now the smallest minor perturbation to the nominal took it beyond its elastic limit, so to speak. But if a certain product has a habit of shattering (multiple reported such outcomes) - well, the likelihood that there should be such a high correlation between purveyors of that item and 6-sigma beyond norm events that shattering glass should be an expected outcome, is statistically insignificant. More than likely then, there is indeed a manufacturing defect - either in the glass manufacture process, or planarity of the door frame into which it is inserted, its tensioning or some other assembly process. Tempered glass might shatter safely, but it doesn't have a habit of shattering so much so that anyone buying ovens or doors or whatever should expect that after the 3year/5year/7year window that they should expect to walk upto an imploded door. This is just silly. It is absolutely the right thing to do to air the fact that E'lux's oven door shattered in self-clean mode. If many E'lux ovens do that, it is likely an E'lux problem and won't be known until such complaints are aired, collected and documented. If many oven doors shatter in self-clean then either ovens will get to a point where they won't use glass in self-clean ovens or self-cleaning will be outmoded (yesssssss!). Whatever. (regardless that as far as I know, self-clean temps are well inside the tolerance regime of tempered glass). None of this happens until the user airs this. & others aren't edified until they happen upon such reports. The only factually incorrect, if that, information I ran across on the e'lux oven thread was the moral outrage about the health risks of someone walking into the glass shards. Fact is that shattered tempered glass is safer than regular shattered glass but it's no bowl of tofu, chaps. So, while I think that keeping a bit of a tamp on the emotional quotient isn't a bad idea, the motivating example has even me arguing against this thread and I certainly don't support the idea of filter's eliminating posts that exceed some imagined emotion threshold or pass someone's idea of fact-filled posts. If the last was the case, I doubt that the OP's post (top post, this thread) would have made the cut .... Hmmmm, come to think of it ....

That sounds right. :) I was in my 30's before I could name all the states of Australia and there aren't many. :) Before then, I knew New South Wales because I loved the double modifier and always wondered why North Wales was excluded, though I know there are cultural differences. :) I think I know all the provinces of Canada, but...okay, I just tried, but while I knew spaces I couldn't call to mind, I couldn't do it. Missed four. Blame sleep deprivation? But that's it for me. I know only a few of the states of Mexico and none of the Cantons of Switzerland, even though I've been there. Then again, the legend going around about the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta was that people called in to an advanced sales line from New Mexico to get tickets and were told that they only had tickets for people in the USA. I think pictures in media and air travel have made the map portion of geography instruction functionally obsolete (i.e., the people don't feel compelled to learn it).