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| Go ahead and laugh, but I don't know the difference between turnips and rutabagas. I regularly use turnips in pot roasts and stews, but not rutas. I thought rutas were elongated like big, thick carrots, but I googled and they look like turnips, same genus.
I had my first pasty last week and loved it, so of course I want to make some. Recipes call for rutas. Do they taste like turnips? Also, though the flavor of the pasty was deelish, it was very dry. Can I make mine saucier? Thanks. Sherry |
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| Turnips seem a little sweeter to me. I use rutabagas in my pasties all the time, wouldn't taste right w/o it. I also like them saucier so I make a special gravy to serve with them. I can post my recipe if you's like. Nancy |
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| Thanks, Nancy, and yes, I would love your recipes! What a bonus! |
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| I don't really care much for turnips cooked....I like them raw like a jicima. I love Rutabaga cooked. It has a very strong flavor and will flavor everything it's cooked with. I put rutabaga in my vegetable soup.....and I can taste it in every bite. I like it in pasties. I think...the over sized carrot you were thinking was rutabaga is a parsnip....which I think would also be good in a pastie. Linda C |
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| Duh! Of course it is a parsnip! I like parsnips in stews, soups, etc., don't know where my mind was. Sometimes I scare myself. Thanks for straightening me out. Probably the taste I liked in the pasty but couldn't identify was rutabaga. Ok. I will use rutabaga in the pasties, and make them a little Sherry |
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- Posted by islay_corbel (My Page) on Tue, Aug 21, 12 at 12:05
| All that should go in a pasty is beef, potatoes, onions, swede (rutabaga), salt and pepper. They are quite dry. If you want one that's saucier, then make a pie. I love pies....... but a pasty can't be saucy. It's a protected species!!! |
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| Here is the recipe I use... Pasties Dough 4 1/2 C unbleached all purpose flour In large bowl or food processor, combine dry ingredients, cut in shortening and butter, Filling 2 Lbs coarsely ground beef 3 C finely chopped potatoes Combine all, EXCEPT butter, in a large bowl. I use a food processor on the vegetables, Preheat oven to 400� Roll out dough , leaving it a little thicker than you would for pie crust. Cut into 6-8 inch Fill with about 1 cup of filling and dot with a teaspoon of butter. Fold in half and use a fork to Place on parchment lined cookie sheet, Special Gravy Brown 2 C of filling, in rendered fat or butter. You can use more or less depending on what you have left over, but I always save at least 2 C. When browned add 2 cups of water and simmer until vegetables are well cooked,about 15 min. Mash with a potato masher or tranfer to food processor bowl and pulse to smooth slightly. You should get about 6-8 pasties from this recipe, depending on size and amount of filling you put in each one. I like to double or triple the recipe as they freeze very well, I freeze the gravy also, in small amounts. Nancy |
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| Rutabaga is a cross between turnip and cabbage, both members of the brassica family. Rutabagas are normally about the size of a softball but can grow much larger. I've seen one that was more like the size of a bowling ball. As I recall, it weighed about nine pounds. We have an excellent local rutabaga variety which is called Eastham Turnip, never rutabaga. It is white and good flavored even when grown very large. The town of Eastham sometimes holds a turnip festival in the fall. Jim |
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| Eastham Turnip is a turnip....not a rutabaga....it's white....and an heirloom variety. Any pasties I have eaten....admittedly not very many, but most were made by people using an old recipe from the Cornish mining areas....used cubed meat....not ground. |
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| Many,many,many years ago, I had a girlfriend that was a dancer, and she wore 'pasties' as part of her costume. BOY, am I old. |
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| Well, Islay, I will bow to your superior knowledge on the subject and won't make them saucier! I will use Nancy's recipe, which sounds perfect to me. Nancy, I am off to the grocery to find a rutabaga and will follow your recipe exactly. Thank you so much for posting it. As a rutabaga novice, Jim, I wish I had one of yours to start with. I Thanks, everybody. I'll let you know how they turn out. Sherry |
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| Well, Islay, I will bow to your superior knowledge on the subject and won't make them saucier! I will use Nancy's recipe, which sounds perfect to me. Nancy, I am off to the grocery to find a rutabaga and will follow your recipe exactly. Thank you so much for posting it. As a rutabaga novice, Jim, I wish I had one of yours to start with. I Thanks, everybody. I'll let you know how they turn out. Sherry |
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| Yes, lbpod, you ARE old! Vaudeville old! Very funny! |
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| Nancy - where the does gravy come in? Do you serve them with the heated pasties? I grew up with Cornish pasties which were a meat and potato dumpling, a bit like an empanada. I read that the Cornish miners carried these into the mines with them, so they were sturdy and filling. I don't recall gravy anywhere. lbpod - the pasties that dancers wear are pronounced differently. They are "pay-sties" as opposed to "pah-sties". I was greeted by gales of laughter the first time I mentioned pay-sties in this country. Cheryl |
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| Cheryl, the gravy was my own idea. I found pasties rather dry and decided that was what they needed. I just put it on at the table. A scoop of gravy over the pastie is wonderful. |
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| Nancy - those look delish! I need to try your gravy idea. It would make the pasties taste a bit like steak and kidney pie which has a nice gravy in the filling. Cheryl |
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| Nuts. There are no rutabagas or turnips to be found today in any of the markets near me. The Mexican market will get some Thursday, so I have to wait til then. I have everything else. Thursday, hurry up and get here! |
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| LOL, lbpod, you must have had quite a girlfriend! I agree, Islay, there have to be "beggies" in my pasty. I love the darned things, but I want them to be dry. They don't have gravy or sauce in them and Dad used either gravy or catsup on his, but I like to just be able to pick one up and eat it without a mess, the ultimate handy lunch. Beef, onion, potato, rutabaga, salt/pepper, wrapped in pastry, that's what you get here if you get a pasty. Annie |
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- Posted by carol_in_california (My Page) on Tue, Aug 21, 12 at 21:45
| I learned to make pasties from my mother in law, who was born and raised in Houghton, MI. She always used beef suet and butter in the crust with the flour, salt and water. They called pasties with rutabegas Finlander pasties. The ones I make call for cubed top sirloin, potatoes, onions and topped with salt, pepper and butter. I haven't made them since DH had coronary bypass surgery....and it is difficult to find good beef suet in our area. DH's family always used a lot of catsup on theirs but I like hot Mexican salsa or pickled jalapenos on mine. |
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- Posted by islay_corbel (My Page) on Wed, Aug 22, 12 at 3:27
| No garlic!!!eeeeek. My daughter lives in Cornwall so I have to admit to having eaten rather a lot of them........There are many different ones now - cheese and onion, vegetarian..... but the original is still the best, I think. Yes, cubes of beef not mince. |
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| My husband is an extraordinarily good shopper, except when it comes to rutabagas. He ALWAYS ends up bringing home turnips. They're just nowhere near as good, IMO. |
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